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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 08/10/19 at 15:37:31

Title: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/10/19 at 15:37:31

Commit suicide, after having everything that could be used removed from him that could be used to hurt himself, while being on suicide watch, which under some circumstances includes being constantly monitored. Look at Who he was, and the people who he ran with.
Sure, he killed himself.
Narcissistic jackass didn't do it.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by Serowbot on 08/10/19 at 15:44:55

You would think a "suicide watch" cell wouldn't have any ceiling fixtures of any kind.
I'd like to see how he did it.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/10/19 at 16:57:40

Story changed
Last one I saw
Nope, after the previous attempt, just like that, no longer on suicide watch.
Well, howaboutthat?

We'll never know what really happened.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by Serowbot on 08/10/19 at 17:06:35

I'm kinda' with you on this... I won't go "conspiracy" on it, but...
If I were warden,.. even if he was taken off suicide watch, I'd make sure he stayed away from sharp objects, cords, and no ceiling fixtures.
Epstein was looking at pretty certain life behind bars.

Speculation...
Epstein wasn't very tall... you think he could have used the top of the doorjam to wedge something in to hold a cord or a t-shirt?...

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/10/19 at 17:44:57

He, being the high profile guy he was, with the potential to give testimony that would destroy high profile people, should have been kept safe from self harm or harm from others.
I have no idea what a guy could use to out his own lights, but an article I found Said, and who knows, but he supposedly complained to people that he was afraid he would be killed.
Which doesn't exactly align with
Suicidal.
It's all too convenient for me to be able to just accept it was suicide.
It's not impossible that it was, but to say I'm skeptical would be an understatement.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by MnSpring on 08/10/19 at 18:38:32

With the big shots he could take down.
He was Killed, plain and simple.
Just like JFK was boinking MM.
Nothing, 'Official,' was or will ever be said,
But it was murder, just to keep his mouth shut.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/10/19 at 21:29:17

Most likely,,,

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by thumperclone on 08/10/19 at 23:07:58

if it was suicide it proves his guilt
if he was taken out it means the highchair king was getting nervous

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by WebsterMark on 08/11/19 at 04:13:25

In a battle between complicated conspiracy that requires a tremendous level of risk and careful planning and execution VS gross stupidity and incompetence, gross stupidity and incompetence wins 99% of the time.

.....but there’s always that 1%.....

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by WebsterMark on 08/11/19 at 04:50:15

Saw a hilarious comment....

Is assisted suicide legal in New York?

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/11/19 at 05:08:52

Lots of people were shocked to hear of Epstein's suicide,
none more than Mr. Epstein.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by WebsterMark on 08/11/19 at 06:12:13

7D6264637E7948784870626E25170 wrote:

Lots of people were shocked to hear of Epstein's suicide,
none more than Mr. Epstein.

HA! Good one!

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by oldNslow on 08/11/19 at 06:34:55

And just like that:

Before this scumbags body was even cold, a whole bunch of big wheels, who had been running around on their rims since the arrest, breathed a huge collective sigh of relief and satisfaction, poured themselves a drink gazed out upon the once again peaceful swamp, and smiled.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by Serowbot on 08/11/19 at 08:18:40

If it wasn't a suicide,... there's no need to fabricate some elaborate hit conspiracy.
Child molesters are not popular in prison.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/11/19 at 09:33:34

He was killed IN his cell.
Inmates don't get to go visit the guy down the hall.
Is the obvious too painful for your eyes?

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by Serowbot on 08/11/19 at 09:46:07

In that case,.. it's obvious,... Hillary did it...

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by MnSpring on 08/11/19 at 13:22:51

2F392E332B3E33285C0 wrote:

there's no need to fabricate some elaborate hit conspiracy. Child molesters are not popular in prison.

WOW, Deflection in it's best example.

'What He Said" LOLOLOLOL

6F7076716C6B5A6A5A62707C37050 wrote:

He was killed IN his cell.
Inmates don't get to go visit the guy down the hall.
Is the obvious too painful for your eyes?

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by Serowbot on 08/11/19 at 14:07:35

The scary thing is Trump is trying to tie this to Clinton.
Foil hats in the TT is one thing,.. in the WH,... it's scary.

Trump amplifies Epstein conspiracy theories on social media
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-amplifies-epstein-conspiracy-theories-230010789.html

Ya'now,... Trump was way closer to Epstein than Clinton.
http://https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2019/07/17/17-trump-epstein-color.w168.h168.2x.jpg

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/11/19 at 14:39:45

Ya'now,... Trump was way closer to Epstein than Clinton.

Really?
You're so full of Bullshit.
Trump threw Epstein out of his club, banned him.
Clinton flew on Epstein's plane over twenty times.
Get some eye drops and man up.
Look at what is real.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by WebsterMark on 08/11/19 at 14:54:49

Yea, I agree Jog, total BS. Flat out lie. Lying is becoming more and more common from our moderator.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by MnSpring on 08/11/19 at 15:05:32

Perhaps I should have not mentioned,
how Sarah Brady LIED, for 34 years,
and her minions are still LYING.

Some people are following in her footsteps.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by T And T Garage on 08/11/19 at 17:03:04

Yeah, I'm sure trump is the most innocent person in the world when it comes to epstein...

LOL - y'know, that paragraph above sounds like a tweet trump might post!

WGAS how he died? I'm glad he paid the ultimate price.

I don't think it was "hillary" or "trump"...

Just be glad there's one less of that kind of fukc in the world.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/11/19 at 17:05:24

Some people do have elevated risk factors for suicide..
But nobody has been able to explain Why there is an 846% increase in the likelihood of suicide in people who have dirt on the Clintons.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by T And T Garage on 08/11/19 at 17:06:18

445B5D5A4740714171495B571C2E0 wrote:

Some people do have elevated risk factors for suicide..
But nobody has been able to explain Why there is an 846% increase in the likelihood of suicide in people who have dirt on the Clintons.

SMH

Right. How's pizzagate and alex jones?.....

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/11/19 at 17:27:58

Shake it harder.
Maybe you will start thinking straight.
Do you have any idea how many convenient deaths are in the Clintons history?

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by T And T Garage on 08/11/19 at 17:38:44

2C3335322F2819291921333F74460 wrote:

Shake it harder.
Maybe you will start thinking straight.
Do you have any idea how many convenient deaths are in the Clintons history?

Says the guy who thought Sandy Hook was a false flag op....

But hey, if you want to think the Clintons are some kind of uber powerful "dark force" that can have more hits put out than the Cosa Nostra, then have at it hoss...lol

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by MnSpring on 08/11/19 at 19:16:53

332D22232E332835470 wrote:

if you want to think the Clintons are some kind of uber powerful "dark force"
then have at it hoss...

When you say, Vince Foster, and:
(to the like)
'Nothing to see here people, move among'
make sure to click your heals together three times,
as you sprinkle your Fairy Dust.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by Eegore on 08/11/19 at 19:43:29

This is a pretty amusing thread.

Epstein was closer to Clinton or Trump... who cares?

He was murdered in his cell or killed himself... who cares?

An investigation will be conducted and if the results are what you think happened then the investigation was solid and truthful. If the investigation isn't what you think happened it will be wrong, corrupt and a cover-up.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by T And T Garage on 08/12/19 at 05:29:58

1030323A2730550 wrote:

Well put Eegore!

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by T And T Garage on 08/12/19 at 05:30:37

5F7C4162607B7C75120 wrote:

[quote author=332D22232E332835470 link=1565476651/15#25 date=1565570324]if you want to think the Clintons are some kind of uber powerful "dark force"
then have at it hoss...

When you say, Vince Foster, and:
(to the like)
'Nothing to see here people, move among'
make sure to click your heals together three times,
as you sprinkle your Fairy Dust.
[/quote]

Once again mn, your post makes no sense.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by WebsterMark on 08/12/19 at 05:38:24

It's particularly amusing that the same leftist media who pushed the Trump-Russian conspiracies or the 17 year old high school Kavanaugh gang raping girls conspiracies, for some reason immediately denounce any possibility of nefarious going ons with Epstein's unusual death. Of course the reason is to deflect any possible negative attention on their preferred political party, the Democrats. I've not read much on this, but I'm surprised none of the Fake News members have not concocted a plot where Trump directed his death or have I missed that???

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by T And T Garage on 08/12/19 at 05:45:08

407275646372655A76657C170 wrote:

If you haven't read much about this, then how do you make your supposition?

What I've seen just this morning are 2 democratic senators calling for an investigation of his death to become public.

Then, I see trump retweeting a completely made up conspiracy.

So, mark, you tell us - who's really trying to shoehorn the story?

And you accuse others of being totally partisan? That's rich!

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by WebsterMark on 08/12/19 at 08:31:02

If you haven't read much about this, then how do you make your supposition?

Because I know the leftist main stream media and entertainment culture. They lie, cheat and steal to get Democrats elected. Not rocket science.

Another great line: If you think the Clintons crafted a genius plan to murder Epstein, you're first going to have to explain why Hillary wasn't even able to find Wisconsin on a map.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by T And T Garage on 08/12/19 at 08:46:12

0C3E39282F3E29163A29305B0 wrote:

If you haven't read much about this, then how do you make your supposition?

Because I know the leftist main stream media and entertainment culture. They lie, cheat and steal to get Democrats elected. Not rocket science.

LOL - really? So you base your "facts" strictly on your bias against democrats... hilarious!

Yeah mark, and you have the audacity to criticize others of holding beer barrel brett in contempt because of his proven history?

(To use your own words) - C'mon, make it just a little bit harder for me to show your hypocrisy, huh? LOL

The facts are - the mainstream media is reporting that a full investigation is being conducted and that the findings should be made public.

Another great line: If you think the Clintons crafted a genius plan to murder Epstein, you're first going to have to explain why Hillary wasn't even able to find Wisconsin on a map.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by WebsterMark on 08/12/19 at 08:49:30

LOL - really? So you base your "facts" strictly on your bias against democrats... hilarious!

It's not my bias. Just pointing out the reality of the majority of the MSM and entertainment culture.

Yeah mark, and you have the audacity to criticize others of holding beer barrel brett in contempt because of his proven history?
I think that's the point. There was no proven history worthy of contempt. It was all fabricated and trumpeted by the people mentioned above.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by T And T Garage on 08/12/19 at 08:55:26

774542535445526D41524B200 wrote:

LOL - really? So you base your "facts" strictly on your bias against democrats... hilarious!

It's not my bias. Just pointing out the reality of the majority of the MSM and entertainment culture.

Well mark, in this case you're wrong. Just go take a look at the "msm" headlines.

If anything they're promoting the "nefarious" story line.

Yeah mark, and you have the audacity to criticize others of holding beer barrel brett in contempt because of his proven history?
I think that's the point. There was no proven history worthy of contempt. It was all fabricated and trumpeted by the people mentioned above.

Yet somehow you're right in supposition, and everyone else is wrong... got it.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by Serowbot on 08/12/19 at 09:26:21

Epstein's co-conspirators will still undergo trial...
Civil suits will still happen.
All the same evidence will come out.

What was gained by his supposed murder?

Another wackadoodle conspiracy theory is the body wasn't Epstein's... Epstein is on a plane to somewhere,.. he'll get plastic surgery and live out his life in luxury.

I don't know which is dumber.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by WebsterMark on 08/12/19 at 09:56:21

Again, when the choice is exotic conspiracy requiring careful planning and massive risk if caught VS ignorance, stupidity and government bureaucracy; safe bet to go with the latter.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by Serowbot on 08/12/19 at 10:21:05

So strange when we agree.. :P

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by WebsterMark on 08/12/19 at 10:31:14

Shows you should just give up and yield to my superior intelligence and logic.....

Besides, his death doesn't change much and in fact, the speculation of what went to the grave with him is greater than his testimony against someone. It would be easy to say he's trying to grab any lifeline he can. Remember Michael Cohen's "testimony " at the end? No one does. It was a last ditched effort to salvage what he could by making up whatever story he thought would win him some favor. In the end, if he'd really had any solid evidence against Trump, he could have traded that for freedom. Same with Epstein. If he had solid evidence against Clinton, The Royals and especially Trump, he would have never seen the inside of a cell.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by Serowbot on 08/12/19 at 10:32:49

Glad you included Trump in there.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by WebsterMark on 08/12/19 at 10:37:09

160807060B160D10620 wrote:

[quote author=407275646372655A76657C170 link=1565476651/30#30 date=1565613504]It's particularly amusing that the same leftist media who pushed the Trump-Russian conspiracies or the 17 year old high school Kavanaugh gang raping girls conspiracies, for some reason immediately denounce any possibility of nefarious going ons with Epstein's unusual death. Of course the reason is to deflect any possible negative attention on their preferred political party, the Democrats. I've not read much on this, but I'm surprised none of the Fake News members have not concocted a plot where Trump directed his death or have I missed that???

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by T And T Garage on 08/12/19 at 10:45:14

0C3E39282F3E29163A29305B0 wrote:

[quote author=160807060B160D10620 link=1565476651/30#31 date=1565613908][quote author=407275646372655A76657C170 link=1565476651/30#30 date=1565613504]It's particularly amusing that the same leftist media who pushed the Trump-Russian conspiracies or the 17 year old high school Kavanaugh gang raping girls conspiracies, for some reason immediately denounce any possibility of nefarious going ons with Epstein's unusual death. Of course the reason is to deflect any possible negative attention on their preferred political party, the Democrats. I've not read much on this, but I'm surprised none of the Fake News members have not concocted a plot where Trump directed his death or have I missed that???

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by WebsterMark on 08/12/19 at 11:02:43

You're right. They made all that up. Fake tweets, the whole ball of wax. My bad.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by T And T Garage on 08/12/19 at 11:06:11

467473626574635C70637A110 wrote:

You're right. They made all that up. Fake tweets, the whole ball of wax. My bad.

I never said that. Do you believe that?

What I infer is that you're quoting fox "news" on a story about how the left-wing celebrities are starting conspiracies.

Gee, you'd never see that on there normally, huh? <<<<sarcasm.

Just as many lunatics on the right doing the same thing on the Clintons and any other lefty.

Gimme a break.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by WebsterMark on 08/13/19 at 04:22:05

I read this morning that the city medical examiner was slammed and working overtime shifts and he took extra long lunch so Epstein cremated himself.

Title: Re: And just like that, Epstein was able to
Post by oldNslow on 08/13/19 at 19:10:58

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/25/judge-jeffrey-epstein-case-dies-1292394

A 96 year old judge assigned to this case. I gotta hand it to the swamp. These SOBs are good. No need to even bribe or blackmail the guy. Just wait a bit. "No Problemo" ;D

"An elderly federal judge presiding over a key lawsuit relating to financier pedophile Jeffrey Epstein died Sunday, adding another twist to the drawn-out legal saga and to efforts to unseal still-secret details about the conduct of Epstein, his enablers and one of his accusers."