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Title: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by T And T Garage on 07/17/19 at 08:00:09 A great perspective. Start at :21 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYnjDCZUV6A[/media] http://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1713140448772807 |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by Serowbot on 07/17/19 at 09:20:48 "Everyone is entitled to their own opinion,... so keep quiet about your atheism" ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by eau de sauvage on 07/17/19 at 10:58:23 How about this... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pKMV6e5kEo[/media] |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by T And T Garage on 07/17/19 at 11:41:42 3B293D3E292F2D480 wrote:
Nice!! |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by pg on 07/17/19 at 14:44:30 The question I am about to pose is not about religion so to speak. Where did the world we live in come from? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by T And T Garage on 07/17/19 at 15:22:27 4F585E525D4D3F0 wrote:
If you're actually curious, then I'd suggest going on Curiosity Stream of something similar. They have a plethora of shows on the origins of the universe (or the multiverse), how galaxies and solar systems are formed, consciousness, human brain functions, etc. I highly recommend Neil Degrasse Tyson's Cosmos. That, or you can just believe that God, sitting on a cloud somewhere, made everything and be done with it. |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by pg on 07/17/19 at 16:06:42 I don't claim to have the answers; although, I can say with absolute certainty their is something after this time on Earth. I had a glimpse once, when I was very ill. It wasn't my time just yet.... Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by T And T Garage on 07/17/19 at 16:09:16 4156505C5343310 wrote:
Well, a clinical explanation could be that you hallucinated. The neurons in your brain fired in a certain pattern to relax you. Or, it was the after life. The only thing you can be sure of is - that no one can be sure of it. |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by Eegore on 07/17/19 at 16:23:47 "Well, a clinical explanation could be that you hallucinated. The neurons in your brain fired in a certain pattern to relax you." NASA has a decent amount of information on this due to the amount of G-force studies that result in loss of consciousness. Many subjects report light, and bright light also childhood memories. Interesting stuff considering its reproducible. |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by pg on 07/17/19 at 16:29:24 4C525D5C514C574A380 wrote:
Yes, it was not in this world. You will experience it as well, and I am not trying to convince you. You and everyone here will see it. I'm not taking a religious perspective or discussing salvation, only that there is something after this place we are in. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by T And T Garage on 07/17/19 at 16:33:34 594E48444B5B290 wrote:
Yes, it was not in this world. You will experience it as well, and I am not trying to convince you. You and everyone here will see it. I'm not taking a religious perspective or discussing salvation, only that there is something after this place we are in. Best regards,[/quote] Glad you had that experience. But to be clear - that was your experience, not anyone else's. (See Eegore's response) |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by verslagen1 on 07/17/19 at 16:41:39 203E31303D203B26540 wrote:
Yes, it was not in this world. You will experience it as well, and I am not trying to convince you. You and everyone here will see it. I'm not taking a religious perspective or discussing salvation, only that there is something after this place we are in. Best regards,[/quote] Glad you had that experience. But to be clear - that was your experience, not anyone else's. (See Eegore's response)[/quote] T&Tgabage you still lack comprehension skills as well as empathy. |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by T And T Garage on 07/17/19 at 17:17:08 445740415E5355575C03320 wrote:
LOL - "T&T Garbage"? Seriously? How very childish. Congrats vers - you're pathetic. |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by Eegore on 07/17/19 at 17:31:43 "LOL - "T&T Garbage"? Seriously?" Incorrect. Your quote is wrong. "T&Tgabage" This could be interpreted as a B in place of an R. |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by T And T Garage on 07/17/19 at 17:36:36 4666646C7166030 wrote:
LOL - I overlooked the typo. Thanks for catching that. (do you think he meant "garage"? the "b" and the "r" are pretty far apart on the keyboard) . ;D |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by Eegore on 07/17/19 at 19:45:49 I don't know. The G and C are closer, maybe he meant a misspelled Cabbage. |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by eau de sauvage on 07/17/19 at 20:20:13 382F29252A3A480 wrote:
Can you be more specific. Can you define what you mean by 'the world' like do you mean from the creation of the Earth, or the evolution of life, or are you referring to the cultural and sociological tribes and cultures, say going back to the beginning of agriculture? |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by batman on 07/17/19 at 21:05:17 Politics & Religion ,the two biggest banes of mankind. they've started every war in History. If we are Truly Christians then we should believe that all men are created equal (the world) , and that we are our brother's keepers. But we are not! We start wars , and build Walls. Each man can decide his own beliefs , be it heaven ,or to lie in a hole with six feet of dirt in his face trying to hold his breath forever. But it should be his ,not the will of others, nor should it be faulted if it differs from yours, if you are intolerant then perhaps it is you who are truly evil. |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by WebsterMark on 07/18/19 at 05:08:04 And who is the intolerant one today? The man who puts the Christian fish symbol on his car or the man who puts a fish symbol on his car with legs and teeth eating the Christian fish symbol? Who else is intolerant today? The one who for no particular reason post a video attacking faith? The often repeated phrase that more people have died in wars started in the name of God is mind-numbing stupidity so kudos for correctly adding politics into the mix since as far as I can tell, its the only readon wars are started. Even the ones attributed to religion are really power and land grabs by flawed men in power using their god as an excuse. If your post was a commentary on the intolerance of starting this thread to begin with, I agree with you. If this is your response to PG offering a defense rather than just staying still like the Christian fish being eaten, then I'd suggest you take your own advice and ask yourself why you decided it was necessary to pile on and add to the intolerance level. |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by T And T Garage on 07/18/19 at 05:31:20 6F4F4D45584F2A0 wrote:
LOL - good one Eegore!! Actually laughed out loud on that one! |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by T And T Garage on 07/18/19 at 05:38:13 4A787F6E69786F507C6F761D0 wrote:
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by Eegore on 07/18/19 at 06:03:55 "And who is the intolerant one today? The man who puts the Christian fish symbol on his car or the man who puts a fish symbol on his car with legs and teeth eating the Christian fish symbol?" Both of those do not in my opinion suggest intolerance. "The one who for no particular reason post a video attacking faith?" Considering this is a public forum, what reasons does one need to post a video with opinions about Religion in a forum called Politics/Religion? |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by WebsterMark on 07/18/19 at 06:16:39 oh please Eegore..... To suggest the fish eating emblem is not a display of intolerance is patently ridiculous. Of course it is. Tolerance would be to display nothing. The fish eating emblem is a statement to the other guy "you're stupid, unscientific and I'm not. I'm better than you" The Christian fish symbol by itself is like wearing you favorite team's jersey. |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by Eegore on 07/18/19 at 06:31:33 I was under the impression that a larger fish eating a smaller fish is the process of evolution. I've seen stick figure representations of several fish going through this process. I may not be clear regarding what a Christian Fish is, but I could see where a non-Christian Fish eating a Christian Fish could be saying more than this larger fish eats smaller fish. Still is it intolerance, or opinion? How does one using two fish represent one thinks evolution is more accurate than creationism? Maybe just putting the Ghostbusters circle-slash over it. |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by T And T Garage on 07/18/19 at 07:14:54 735351594453360 wrote:
Yep - like I said, Eegore is indeed the voice of reason (for most of us anyway)! |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by T And T Garage on 07/18/19 at 07:17:29 4B797E6F68796E517D6E771C0 wrote:
OK, so by that logic, all those "Hillary for Prison 2016" bumper-stickers and the "Lock Her Up" t-shirts were also intolerant, right? LOL - too easy mark. SMH |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by WebsterMark on 07/18/19 at 07:25:12 Eegore, sorry to say this but you're either incredibly obtuse (which I don't believe) or trying so hard to maintain an impression of some kind of wise, unbiased sage you're turning a blind eye to the obvious. If you saw the Christan symbol representing Calvary's hill with three crosses cleary placed over the top of the Islamic moon and star symbol, are you telling me you wouldn't see this as what it was meant to convey which is Christianity's superiority over Islam? Everyone would understand what the person who did that was intending. Same as someone who puts the fish with legs and teeth eating the simple Christian fish. |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by Serowbot on 07/18/19 at 08:35:11 The evolution fish just humorous expression of belief in science. Think of it as a # me too movement for non-believers. Either symbol can be seen as imposing or expressing personal belief, depending on how you want to take it. |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by WebsterMark on 07/18/19 at 10:36:04 So you can honestly say a symbol of Calvary's hill over the Islamic symbol would mean nothing to you? Both carry the same meaning, which os my belief system is superior to yours. I'll concede the fish eating the other has an element of humor but the ultimate message is the same. |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by Serowbot on 07/18/19 at 11:05:27 It would honestly mean nothing to me,.. I had to Google to find out what the symbol of Calvery Hill was... and I have no idea who they are. ..and I don't really care. If I saw crosses over stars I'd assume some new offshoot of some ridiculous religious belief. You can't keep up with everyone's fantasies. ..and when you know it's all the same delusion in different pajama's,.. it's hard to care. Ivanka converted to to Judaism to get married. Will she burn in hell? Will Jesus for that matter?... He was a Jew too. If you think a fish with legs is offensive,.. try being told that you will burn in hell for all eternity. Christians do say that. I've heard it many times. ...and it isn't upsetting because I believe it,.. it's upsetting that person could be so vindictive and hateful that they would say it. Is that a godly thing to say?. I've had people approach with bible in hand and say that. Do you believe they think that is convincing of God's humanity?. Does God smile on them for that? |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by verslagen1 on 07/18/19 at 11:21:39 Most likely you'd never see that group of symbols. Either car would be firebombed or shoved off the road. |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by WebsterMark on 07/18/19 at 12:19:19 If you think a fish with legs is offensive,.. Don't tell me you can't read either....what did you do; borrom TT's reading glasses or something...! Put them down man! I didn't say it was offensive to me; I said the fish eating a Christian fish is a statement that anyone with a Christian fish is an anti-science idiot. That's what it means, that's all it means. I said that in response to someone's faux outrage over intolerance when there is far more intolerance in one direction than the other. try being told that you will burn in hell for all eternity. Christians do say that. I've heard it many times. ...and it isn't upsetting because I believe it,.. it's upsetting that person could be so vindictive and hateful that they would say it. Try being called racist all the time. You and others on here think I am racist. I hear it from you all the time. 1) I'm not and 2) I may very well be the only one whose been on the receiving end of racism. I know racist. You guys label everyone racist you don't agree with. Just like your ignorance with labeling everyone racist, people who use Christian ideology incorrectly isn't a surprise. And the answer to your questions are: 1) I don't know and neither do you or anyone one else, but for sure not because she converted to Judaism. Next time someone tells you that, tell them they're wrong and why. 2) No. Jesus basically did away the traditional Judaism. Anyone who doesn't understand that is wrong. Pretty simple answer. 3) God said some pretty harsh things that wouldn't be well received by almost everyone. "Jacob I loved, but Esau hated." It's might be Godly when he says it but not sure about everyone else. 4)Do they think that? yes, the obviously do think that. You think someone's racist because we ought to limit immigration. I think you're just as wrong as someone who tells you that stuff. 5) I have no idea if he smiles on them. |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by Serowbot on 07/18/19 at 12:32:31 Never seen a fish eating fish symbol, so I Googled it. This is what turned up. Seems antithetical to your point. http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/GX4AAMXQE9hSA-BT/s-l300.jpg |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by Eegore on 07/18/19 at 16:03:04 "If you saw the Christan symbol representing Calvary's hill with three crosses cleary placed over the top of the Islamic moon and star symbol, are you telling me you wouldn't see this as what it was meant to convey which is Christianity's superiority over Islam? Everyone would understand what the person who did that was intending. Same as someone who puts the fish with legs and teeth eating the simple Christian fish. " I wouldn't as I am not informed as to what Calvary's Hill is nor would I understand the intent as three crosses over an Islamic Moon would mean nothing to me. That being said I will attempt to combine the above information with my earlier post in an attempt to indicate that my lack of religious symbolic knowledge may result in an inaccurate assessment of meaning from those symbols. When you described "fish symbol on his car with legs " I interpreted this as a fish in scale larger than the fish it is eating. I reference this "that a larger fish eating a smaller fish is the process of evolution" and supplement it with "I've seen stick figure representations of several fish going through this process." I also indicate that I do not know what a Christian Fish is: "I may not be clear regarding what a Christian Fish is" To clarify I do not know what a Christian Fish is. When seeing a fish with teeth and legs consuming another fish I interpret it as a symbol of Evolution. It is inferred that the person who put it there, who may not be the current owner/operator, believes in Evolution. None of that conveys Christianity to me, as I did not know the other fish was religious. I believe my earlier statements support this. Now not being clear what a Cavalry Hill symbol is, if I saw it on a vehicle it can be assumed that I would not accurately interpret it's meaning correctly, and most likely I would not pay it notice at all. Given the lack of knowledge regarding this specific, and most religious symbolism I would not assume the symbol represents intolerance - I would make no assessment at all. So my question is, without knowledge of Cavalry Hill symbolism how could the following statement be accurate? "Everyone would understand what the person who did that was intending." Wouldn't it only apply to people who know what those symbols mean? |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by raydawg on 07/19/19 at 09:40:48 Well from my own personal experience, unique to me, and anybody want to argue, feel free......but it will be like a man telling a woman, about her feelings/beliefs about abortion ;D Being introduced to the church at a very early age, and sticking with it through much of my life, it didn't provide for me in a manner that it seemed like it preached. Oh I got the hell part, and that made me say I believed because the alternative was more scary...... ;D ;D ;D ;D So, yes I believed, in what, I could only utter allegiance to what I didn't feel/understand.... :-/ Not until I was filled with the Spirit......did it make any sense, it was like a decoding ring I now wore ;D You guys can argue theology all you want, but without the understanding of, and having the gift of the Holy Spirit, you can't understand the real depth and understanding of the Bible personally....sorry, you can't. You can study it, but you will only be armed with human intelligence, of that learned through a flesh existence of secularism....which in context would be akin to saying we need to study Anglo-Saxons to understand its input of racism/slavery upon the Black man..... :-? And to be offended and butt hurt by anything is just a cop out, period, of folk who are looking for excuses, everyone should have a faith in themselves by who, and what they are, that any affronts by another is seen as just a feeble attempt..... in trying to bolster their own shortcomings.....has absolutely nothing to do we me ;D Peace all.....have a great weekend! |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by T And T Garage on 07/19/19 at 10:10:39 50435B46435545220 wrote:
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by raydawg on 07/19/19 at 10:51:56 No, the rails our my rails...... And everything I shared from thereon is in that context. The Bible is a Living Bible because each believer is part of the Living body of Christ through the Spirit of Him......in this world of flesh As such, like our own bodies, each part of our body has a specific use, or task, that is unique to that part, but is a needed part to the overall complete body by design. You could be the right eye, I might be the butt ( >:( ) but each of us would still be in the Body of Christ influence..... To say my butt view ( >:( ) is the correct view, is only true to me, not the view of your right eye experience..... As to the billions of folks who have come and gone on this planet, etc.... What difference does it make to one who believes the Bible is a fairy tale? If we die, and rot, which is the truth by default of not believing in the Trinity, then why should that even be a concern to a non believer? Do you care what others think, believe, if it doesn't pertain to you? Why? Do you need to be affirmed? Why? Are you threatened by a fairy tale? Be careful assigning the answer yes....when you say their faith can have a impact, and effect, upon your life, for by that very admission, you have then allowed the argument to be extended to others, who say your beliefs impact them..... And now how do we solve this conflict......war? Forced compliance to mankind is a direct assault to our free will, which is what makes man different than all other creations.... Be careful......for what you sanction, is how you will be judged, by the greater result of fate. Gotta go, family is here on vacation..... Having great fun with my grand kids, crabbing, got 22 BIG crabs in less than 2 hours yesterday...what fun! County fair today. Have a good weekend, enjoy life, that is a gift to ALL of us, we are all lucky to be granted such a chance....dang, we coulda been made a crab ;D |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by T And T Garage on 07/19/19 at 11:29:13 24372F32372131560 wrote:
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by Serowbot on 07/19/19 at 11:42:19 Confucius say,... he who views from the butt, also speaks from it. |
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Title: Re: Religion Explained In 2 Minutes Post by thumperclone on 07/19/19 at 16:34:23 there is no heaven there is no hell there is no life after death there are no virgins waiting for you on the other side life is what you make of it you create your own reality yes that means your own heavens' and your own hells' all religions are mans' creation to control you and your thought process.. just think if the GOP was a religion o wait a sec.... ;) edit: just think of the GOP as a religion there you will find the mind control... |
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