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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 07/09/19 at 17:16:23

Title: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/09/19 at 17:16:23

Control influx


People from both sides have said that
Said essentially the same thing
But
EVERY TIME SOMEONE TRIES TO GET IT DONE

The
Other side would Rather see failure for the person who is trying to get it done
Than do what America NEEDS..
FFS,
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/07/dems_playing_the_race_card_on_repubs_for_saying_the_same_things_dems_said_a_few_years_ago_on_illegal_immigration.html

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/07/dems_playing_the_race_card_on_repubs_for_saying_the_same_things_dems_said_a_few_years_ago_on_illegal_immigration.html

Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/10/19 at 16:00:54

That's funny....

Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by Eegore on 07/10/19 at 20:17:28


 Funny in the same way as when you don't post in a thread?

Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/11/19 at 02:35:26

One person
Not posting in a thread

Nobody posting

Same?


I'm calling this a slam dunk.
Unopposed

Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by thumperclone on 07/11/19 at 04:26:21

libya

Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/19 at 05:53:03


3A252324393E0F3F0F37252962500 wrote:
One person
Not posting in a thread

Nobody posting

Same?


I'm calling this a slam dunk.
Unopposed



Sheesh... attention craving much?

What's the point in trying to "debate" you on this jog?

How many times do we have to say that no one - not even the most liberal on here - wants open borders.

But that doesn't matter, right?

So, you just go ahead and post articles from right-wing sites and call them gospel.

SMH

Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/19 at 05:53:31


2E322F372A3F28393635343F5A0 wrote:
libya



Bazinga!

Nice one!

LOL


Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by MnSpring on 07/11/19 at 08:10:48


716F60616C716A77050 wrote:
How many times do we have to say that no one - not even the most liberal on here - wants open borders

Really ???????
Gee, "...not even the most liberal on here...", totally positive about that ?

Below is just a handful of the HUNDREDS, of places that say otherwise.

"...Ocasio-Cortez Openly Advocates for Open Borders..."
https://www.wibc.com/blogs/tony-katz/morning-news/ocasio-cortez-openly-advocates-open-borders-blames-immigration-surge

"...Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., isn’t on the fringe of the Left. He is the second ranking member of the Democratic National Committee and he basically wears his immigration policy on his sleeve. More specifically, the No. 2 Democrat wore a T-Shirt that literally said “I don’t believe in borders.” "...The new guard of the Democratic Party absolutely supports open borders..."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/2020-democrats-all-have-the-same-immigration-position-open-borders

"...Democratic presidential contender Beto O’Rourke said he would take down El Paso’s border wall..."
http://inthesetimes.com/features/immigration-reform-open-borders-ice-border-wall.html

"...Yes, the Democrats Are for Open Borders..."
"...Although Democrats routinely deny that they're for open borders..."
"...Long before #AbolishICE became a rallying cry for the party's socialist wing, Democratic bigwigs have been saying that no illegal alien should ever be sent home merely because he snuck into the country or overstayed a visa..."
"...Nancy Pelosi in 2013 put it very clearly: "If somebody is here without sufficient documentation, that is not reason for deportation." Hillary Clinton said much the same during one of the 2016 primary debates: "Of the people, the undocumented people living in our country, I do not want to see them deported." Likewise with Bernie Sanders, at the same debate; in response to Jorge Ramos's question, "And can you promise not to deport immigrants who don't have a criminal record?" Sanders answered, "I can make that promise."..."

https://cis.org/Krikorian/Yes-Democrats-Are-Open-Borders

"...There’s Nothing Wrong With Open Borders..."
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/16/opinion/open-borders-immigration.html

This list could be several pages long.

Here is a list of people around the world that want open borders.
https://openborders.info/pro-open-borders-people/
And many are USA, TEACHERS !

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Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/11/19 at 08:35:17

You don't want open borders
But it's wrong to tell people they can't come in.

And NO WALL.

I'm stuck

You're either totally delusional and believe the things you say can be said without actually conflicting with each other
Or you're just able to lie in the most blatant manner anyone has ever seen.

Open borders
Or
Closed.
Can't have both.
If everyone who shows up and can say
Amnesty
Is waltzed in..

That's
OPEN BORDERS..

Amnesty
Consider the meaning.
Legally, it's like a lifeboat.
If you're running from a situation where
The Government has policies that are likely going to cost you your life. Religious tyranny, but not gang activity, crap economy, and
Heeeres the kicker

If you're so oppressed by the government
And you are in need of relief from it
You go to the nearest place.

I'm the only one who sees
New luggage
Decent clothes
Frikken cell phones
Everyone has a cell..

Libya
Supporters are idiots
How do you justify destroying a civilization
And call it a Humanitarian mission?
Morons..

Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by raydawg on 07/11/19 at 08:54:38

Why can't we just put up a slew of Hillary Clinton scarecrows along the border?

Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/19 at 09:08:23


795A6744465D5A53340 wrote:
[quote author=716F60616C716A77050 link=1562717783/0#5 date=1562849583]How many times do we have to say that no one - not even the most liberal on here - wants open borders

Really ???????
Gee, "...not even the most liberal on here...", totally positive about that ?

Yes, I am.

Below is just a handful of the HUNDREDS, of places that say otherwise.

"...Ocasio-Cortez Openly Advocates for Open Borders..."
https://www.wibc.com/blogs/tony-katz/morning-news/ocasio-cortez-openly-advocates-open-borders-blames-immigration-surge

"...Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., isn’t on the fringe of the Left. He is the second ranking member of the Democratic National Committee and he basically wears his immigration policy on his sleeve. More specifically, the No. 2 Democrat wore a T-Shirt that literally said “I don’t believe in borders.” "...The new guard of the Democratic Party absolutely supports open borders..."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/2020-democrats-all-have-the-same-immigration-position-open-borders

"...Democratic presidential contender Beto O’Rourke said he would take down El Paso’s border wall..."
http://inthesetimes.com/features/immigration-reform-open-borders-ice-border-wall.html

"...Yes, the Democrats Are for Open Borders..."
"...Although Democrats routinely deny that they're for open borders..."
"...Long before #AbolishICE became a rallying cry for the party's socialist wing, Democratic bigwigs have been saying that no illegal alien should ever be sent home merely because he snuck into the country or overstayed a visa..."
"...Nancy Pelosi in 2013 put it very clearly: "If somebody is here without sufficient documentation, that is not reason for deportation." Hillary Clinton said much the same during one of the 2016 primary debates: "Of the people, the undocumented people living in our country, I do not want to see them deported." Likewise with Bernie Sanders, at the same debate; in response to Jorge Ramos's question, "And can you promise not to deport immigrants who don't have a criminal record?" Sanders answered, "I can make that promise."..."

https://cis.org/Krikorian/Yes-Democrats-Are-Open-Borders

"...There’s Nothing Wrong With Open Borders..."
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/16/opinion/open-borders-immigration.html

This list could be several pages long.

Here is a list of people around the world that want open borders.
https://openborders.info/pro-open-borders-people/
And many are USA, TEACHERS !

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Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/19 at 09:27:00


2A353334292E1F2F1F27353972400 wrote:
You don't want open borders
But it's wrong to tell people they can't come in.

And NO WALL.

I'm stuck

You're either totally delusional and believe the things you say can be said without actually conflicting with each other
Or you're just able to lie in the most blatant manner anyone has ever seen.

Open borders
Or
Closed.
Can't have both.
If everyone who shows up and can say
Amnesty
Is waltzed in..

No jog, they aren't just "waltzed in".  There is a migration process.  All that needs to happen is they be dealt with accordingly.

Did you have this big a problem in oh, say 1992, when we took in on nearly 150K refugees that year?  How about way back in 1980, when we took in over 200K?

You and the others on the scared right label our current borders as "open".  They're not.  But they certainly aren't locked either.

That's
OPEN BORDERS..

Amnesty
Consider the meaning.
Legally, it's like a lifeboat.
If you're running from a situation where
The Government has policies that are likely going to cost you your life. Religious tyranny, but not gang activity, crap economy, and
Heeeres the kicker

If you're so oppressed by the government
And you are in need of relief from it
You go to the nearest place.

I'm the only one who sees
New luggage
Decent clothes
Frikken cell phones
Everyone has a cell..

Yeah, and poor people shouldn't have refrigerators and microwaves, right?
(btw, I have a bag that I got about 15 years ago that looks brand new.  I wonder, did you see the receipt from the asylum seeker?  LOL)

Libya
Supporters are idiots
How do you justify destroying a civilization
And call it a Humanitarian mission?
Morons..


Sandy.  Hook.

Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by MnSpring on 07/11/19 at 11:01:10


233D32333E233825570 wrote:
[quote author=795A6744465D5A53340 link=1562717783/0#7 date=1562857848][quote author=716F60616C716A77050 link=1562717783/0#5 date=1562849583]How many times do we have to say that no one - not even the most liberal on here - wants open borders
Really ??????? Gee, "...not even the most liberal on here...", totally positive about that ?  Yes, I am. [/quote]
So, your reply to:
"not even the most liberal on here" was, "Yes, I am"
(as to being  'positive' that none here, posting, have said they want open boarders)


So you totally admit that you LIED !
When you said:
"How many times do we have to say that no one wants open borders"

So you are going to just DISMISS, what your sweethearts,
AOC, Pelosi, Clinton, say.
And your mentor/buddies,Bernie Sanders, Ellison, O’Rourke.
AND the DSA/ANTIFA, of which you are so Proud of.

Just can't get any clearer.
The 2nd in command of the DFL wearing a shirt:
“I don’t believe in borders"
The DSA and ANTIFA, shouting, "Abolish ICE"

So when you LIE, and say: "How many times do we have to say that no one wants open borders", do you actually think people will believe you ?

Or is it that, AOC, Pelosi, Clinton, Sanders, Ellison, O’Rourke, DSA, ANTIFA, (and many more), are Lying ?


"...Ocasio-Cortez Openly Advocates for Open Borders..."

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Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/19 at 11:37:49


0E2D1033312A2D24430 wrote:
[quote author=233D32333E233825570 link=1562717783/0#10 date=1562861303][quote author=795A6744465D5A53340 link=1562717783/0#7 date=1562857848][quote author=716F60616C716A77050 link=1562717783/0#5 date=1562849583]How many times do we have to say that no one - not even the most liberal on here - wants open borders
Really ??????? Gee, "...not even the most liberal on here...", totally positive about that ?  Yes, I am. [/quote]
So, your reply to:
"not even the most liberal on here" was, "Yes, I am"
(as to being  'positive' that none here, posting, have said they want open boarders)


So you totally admit that you LIED !
When you said:
"How many times do we have to say that no one wants open borders"

So you are going to just DISMISS, what your sweethearts,
AOC, Pelosi, Clinton, say.
And your mentor/buddies,Bernie Sanders, Ellison, O’Rourke.
AND the DSA/ANTIFA, of which you are so Proud of.

Just can't get any clearer.
The 2nd in command of the DFL wearing a shirt:
“I don’t believe in borders"
The DSA and ANTIFA, shouting, "Abolish ICE"

So when you LIE, and say: "How many times do we have to say that no one wants open borders", do you actually think people will believe you ?

Or is it that, AOC, Pelosi, Clinton, Sanders, Ellison, O’Rourke, DSA, ANTIFA, (and many more), are Lying ?


"...Ocasio-Cortez Openly Advocates for Open Borders..."

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Um, mn... I hate to break your bubble, but none of those people post on this forum.

Did you not understand my post again?

Comprehension seems to elude you more often than not.

"How many times do we have to say that no one - not even the most liberal on here - wants open borders
"

Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by Serowbot on 07/11/19 at 12:19:02

Darn Canadians!

Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by MnSpring on 07/11/19 at 12:29:34


584649484558435E2C0 wrote:
 I hate to break your bubble, but none of those people post on this forum.

The Master of SPIN,
Spins, again !


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Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/19 at 13:30:58


6E4D7053514A4D44230 wrote:
[quote author=584649484558435E2C0 link=1562717783/0#13 date=1562870269]  I hate to break your bubble, but none of those people post on this forum.

The Master of SPIN,
Spins, again !



What's to spin?  Just because you have comprehension problems, doesn't mean that this is "spin".  

You seem to lack the ability to follow a conversation.

But please, keep posting.  It's quite entertaining.  Just like trump's tweets!


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Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by WebsterMark on 07/11/19 at 15:37:21

No jog, they aren't just "waltzed in".  There is a migration process.  All that needs to happen is they be dealt with accordingly.

Did you have this big a problem in oh, say 1992, when we took in on nearly 150K refugees that year?  How about way back in 1980, when we took in over 200K?

You and the others on the scared right label our current borders as "open".  They're not.  But they certainly aren't locked either.

150k in 1992. In 1980 200k. aw...... the good olde days!
Didn't we detain 144k in ONE MONTH alone recently?

Yea, we have a huge freaking problem and since the vast majority who are released never return for their hearings, we have, from a practical point of view, open borders if you can find a way across.

Thank you Democrats. Anything for a vote. This is why they want the census questions; it allocates money which can be used to buy votes with government handouts.

Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by thumperclone on 07/11/19 at 15:40:57


5046514C54414C57230 wrote:
Darn Canadians!

they do have better beer!!

Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by Serowbot on 07/11/19 at 15:46:22


382439213C293E2F202322294C0 wrote:
[quote author=5046514C54414C57230 link=1562717783/0#14 date=1562872742]Darn Canadians!

they do have better beer!![/quote]
Double Darn 'em!

Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/19 at 15:48:42


083A3D2C2B3A2D123E2D345F0 wrote:
No jog, they aren't just "waltzed in".  There is a migration process.  All that needs to happen is they be dealt with accordingly.

Did you have this big a problem in oh, say 1992, when we took in on nearly 150K refugees that year?  How about way back in 1980, when we took in over 200K?

You and the others on the scared right label our current borders as "open".  They're not.  But they certainly aren't locked either.

150k in 1992. In 1980 200k. aw...... the good olde days!
Didn't we detain 144k in ONE MONTH alone recently?

Yes, detain - not let "waltz in".

Yea, we have a huge freaking problem and since the vast majority who are released never return for their hearings, we have, from a practical point of view, open borders if you can find a way across.

If by "vast majority" you 20%, well... OK

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/despite-trump-administration-narrative-most-migrants-show-up-to-court-hearings-11201012

http://trac.syr.edu/immigration/reports/562/

http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2018/nov/13/rob-wittman/rep-rob-wittman-says-85-percent-immigrants-skip-th/

http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/resource/fact-check-asylum-seekers-regularly-attend-immigration-court-hearings


Thank you Democrats. Anything for a vote. This is why they want the census questions; it allocates money which can be used to buy votes with government handouts.



Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by WebsterMark on 07/11/19 at 16:12:59

Pretty sure I could find just as many articles that say the opposite.

Didn't the DHS secretary just say on a recent analysis from one court that out of 7,000 asylum hearing cases, 90% were delivered in absentia meaning they did not return.

Look, there's no way around this, we have tens of thousands of illegals breaking into the country and disappearing every month. That's simply crazy.  

Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/19 at 16:14:48


350700111607102F031009620 wrote:
Pretty sure I could find just as many articles that say the opposite.

Have at it.

Didn't the DHS secretary just say on a recent analysis from one court that out of 7,000 asylum hearing cases, 90% were delivered in absentia meaning they did not return.

Yeah, he did.  We have yet to see the data on that.  The only place I saw that was in his testimony.

Look, there's no way around this, we have tens of thousands of illegals breaking into the country and disappearing every month. That's simply crazy.  


Yes, it is - thus the need for immigration reform, not locking our borders.

Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by Eegore on 07/11/19 at 16:20:25


One person
Not posting in a thread

Nobody posting

Same?


 Its exactly the same because each member is one person.  Each time you log in, do not take time to read every thread and comment on  it you make the same, again... Same choice as everyone else.

 My logic is unless you respond to every question posed, every thread you read, and read every thread here, then you have no grounds to complain, insult or infer any result.  To say otherwise is a double-standard, you can read and respond at your leisure but other members can not, they should respond to your threads.  It doesn't make sense.

Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/19 at 16:44:31


714344555243546B47544D260 wrote:
Thank you Democrats. Anything for a vote. This is why they want the census questions; it allocates money which can be used to buy votes with government handouts.



yeah... Um... about that......

Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/11/19 at 22:58:03


634341495443260 wrote:

One person
Not posting in a thread

Nobody posting

Same?


 Its exactly the same because each member is one person.  Each time you log in, do not take time to read every thread and comment on  it you make the same, again... Same choice as everyone else.

 My logic is unless you respond to every question posed, every thread you read, and read every thread here, then you have no grounds to complain, insult or infer any result.  To say otherwise is a double-standard, you can read and respond at your leisure but other members can not, they should respond to your threads.  It doesn't make sense.

Ludicrous..


Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by Eegore on 07/12/19 at 06:07:30


 So you insult members for not commenting on your posts, within hours not even giving it half a day, and that's not ludicrous?

 It is a double-standard if you want people to reply to your posts and do not make sure to reply to theirs.

Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/12/19 at 19:18:11

Get over yourself.
I waited around..
About a day.

I saw the visit count..
You lefties don't want to admit that this post is
Absolutely inarguable.
So
Instead of Admit that
Keep harping on details .
Instead of your butthurt whining,
Say something about the POST..

Title: Re: America NEEDS to protect the border
Post by Eegore on 07/12/19 at 20:31:24

 The post is inarguable.

 Also FYI it is as easy as clicking it, going back, clicking it, going back to increase that post count.  Not that that is happening here but I have read some posts 5 or 6 times just to re-gain access to articles.

 I will just assume it hasn't been lost on everyone here that this is a post referencing an article about hypocrisy.

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