|
SuzukiSavage.com
/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> Don't comment unless... /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1552653580 Message started by WebsterMark on 03/15/19 at 05:39:40 |
|
Title: Don't comment unless... Post by WebsterMark on 03/15/19 at 05:39:40 ...you read the insane manifesto in full. Ive already heard and read "news" reports that pull useful phrases out of context to score points. Remember, this guy killed 49 for basically the same reason 19 hijackers killed 3,000. So if you refused to allow any of their insane ideology to be used against any group, you should do the same with this obviously broken man. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by T And T Garage on 03/15/19 at 06:36:04 7E4C4B5A5D4C5B64485B42290 wrote:
Why? You probably didn't read it. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by Eegore on 03/15/19 at 07:04:26 I realize this post is in violation of the parameters described in the title and concluded in the post but what is this in reference to? What manifesto? |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by Ed L. on 03/15/19 at 07:26:24 Haven't been able to find the full 73 page manifesto but the small amount which I've located is the rambling of a psychopath. Don't think I could stomach reading the entire thing without puking my lunch multiple times. Webmark, How about posting a link to the entire piece of vomit? Tried to read Mein Kampf once and had the same reaction as with this murderer. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by WebsterMark on 03/15/19 at 07:28:53 647A757479647F62100 wrote:
Why? You probably didn't read it.[/quote] Even for you, that's pretty pathetic. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by WebsterMark on 03/15/19 at 07:30:34 6B4A7162002E0 wrote:
I found it on a Twitter link. I'm on my work computer so I'm not going to search for it on there. It's not easy to find now as many news agencies are censoring it. Now, they'll read it and tell you what it says, but that's my point, everyone needs to read it for themselves. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by WebsterMark on 03/15/19 at 07:31:16 7555575F4255300 wrote:
Jesus Eegore, sometimes I think you live in a cave or something.... |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by T And T Garage on 03/15/19 at 07:57:45 From Bellingcat: This manifesto is a trap itself, laid for journalists searching for the meaning behind this horrific crime. There is truth in there, and valuable clues to the shooter’s radicalization, but it is buried beneath a great deal of, for lack of a better word, “shitposting”. Shitposting is the act of throwing out huge amounts of content, most of it ironic, low-quality trolling, for the purpose of provoking an emotional reaction in less Internet-savvy viewers. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by T And T Garage on 03/15/19 at 07:59:55 073532232435221D31223B500 wrote:
Why? You probably didn't read it.[/quote] Even for you, that's pretty pathetic. [/quote] What's really pathetic, mark, is that the first thing you post is basically a defense of the right wing. Think about that for just a moment. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by MnSpring on 03/15/19 at 15:19:59 49 killed in mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand (In the voice of Ed McMahon, 'Heeeeerrrees the UL's Favorite, Web Sight') https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/14/asia/christchurch-mosque-shooting-intl/index.html Guns have been restricted, (More each time) in New Zealand After 3 massacres. 2 in 1996, and one in 1990. Gee, how did that work out ? |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by T And T Garage on 03/15/19 at 15:24:54 0724193A3823242D4A0 wrote:
Ask Australia. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by Eegore on 03/15/19 at 20:49:14 "Jesus Eegore, sometimes I think you live in a cave or something.... " With that level of resource/information sharing I don't know how you expect to have adult conversation, if you even do. As I have stated many times here, I don't sit around watching mainstream news. I actually sat through 2 intelligence briefings and worked the rest of the day getting equipment inventoried and distributed, so not much time for Google. It not like typing "insane manifesto" gets you anywhere on Google anyway. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by WebsterMark on 03/16/19 at 05:00:54 The New Zealand terrorist attack was everywhere. Somebody had to say something. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by WebsterMark on 03/16/19 at 05:03:24 2D333C3D302D362B590 wrote:
Why? You probably didn't read it.[/quote] Even for you, that's pretty pathetic. [/quote] What's really pathetic, mark, is that the first thing you post is basically a defense of the right wing. Think about that for just a moment. [/quote] It's kinda scummy to bring your little attempt to get back at me for nailing you on your lie pretending to read a dry 41 page economics paper on this particular topic. Pick another thread. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by Eegore on 03/16/19 at 05:52:48 "The New Zealand terrorist attack was everywhere. Somebody had to say something." Nobody said anything. I have no way to prove this, but I can assure you I am more aware of where I was than you or anyone else here is. Again with this level of information sharing it is clear there is no expectation that an actual adult conversation exist. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by WebsterMark on 03/16/19 at 06:52:49 1) You don’t have to assure me, I have no reason to doubt you. 2) Don’t misinterpret my purposeful juvenile comments towards one particular fool on here as something you should use as evidence to make judgements on. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by T And T Garage on 03/16/19 at 07:54:38 083A3D2C2B3A2D123E2D345F0 wrote:
Please... - your post deserved nothing better. First out of the gate, you go to defend the right wing. No mention of the victims, no mention of the horror of the incident, no condemnation. Nice compassion mark. Great attitude. So understanding..... |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by MnSpring on 03/16/19 at 13:36:52 2A343B3A372A312C5E0 wrote:
Hey, GREAT tt, You just described your posts, Perfectly |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by MnSpring on 03/16/19 at 13:46:00 4A545B5A574A514C3E0 wrote:
This statement of yours. What’s really pathetic, mark, is that the first thing you post is basically a defense of the right wing. Which I believe references; “this guy killed 49 for basically the same reason 19 hijackers killed 3,000” (If it is something else, please tell) Is neither Left or Right. It is simply a statement, on how One nut job killed 49, and 19 nut jobs killed 3,000. That’s it, Just Nut Jobs. Only you, with the TDS view, and staying what Uygur tells you to say, could come up with such a thing. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by Serowbot on 03/16/19 at 16:00:44 I think you're wrong Mn,... The comment implies more connection than "nutjob"... Like,... fanatical hatred of a specific race/religion. I see the similarity... sadly Trump doesn't... |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by MnSpring on 03/16/19 at 17:06:46 495F48554D58554E3A0 wrote:
Yea that is what is was. One, a white guy killing Muslims. The other, Muslims killing white guys. Both at the VERY far ends of the L/R spectrum. Nut Jobs. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by eau de sauvage on 03/17/19 at 18:56:17 6D4D4F475A4D280 wrote:
Eegore. If you'd like to understand that way you are allowing Webster Mark to manipulate you read this which explains succinctly what he is doing with this very thread. https://www.vox.com/2016/11/23/13659634/alt-right-trolling You may like this too... https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/03/alleged-new-zealand-shooter-trump-west-white-nationalism.html |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by eau de sauvage on 03/17/19 at 19:02:56 013334252233241B37243D560 wrote:
I see what you're doing... https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/3/16/18266930/christchurch-shooter-manifesto-memes-subscribe-to-pewdiepie It mixes references to memes, shitposts — an internet term for posts intended to derail or distract readers, the baffling nature of which can often approach Dadaist nonsense art — and other bits of benign internet culture with serious ideological dogma. For instance, it randomly includes a well-known piece of copypasta (large blocks of text that get passed around in meme form), for what appears to be satire’s sake. Journalist Robert Evans wrote a blog post shortly after the shooting in which he convincingly argues that the entire manifesto is an example of what it’s imitating — that is, it’s a giant shitpost meant to simultaneously draw attention to and distract from the white nationalist rationale that motivated the shooter. This guy gets it... But the ultimate goal of including the memes seems to be a show of solidarity with the manifesto’s primary audience: the “insiders” who understand that, while the copypasta is a joke, nothing about the extremist ideology is. The memes inserted into the manifesto serve to bolster fellow extremists’ enthusiasm, making them feel even more unified as people who “get” the references and subscribe to the racist views. Ultimately, the memes help turn the manifesto itself into a radicalizing force. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by WebsterMark on 03/18/19 at 05:03:55 Just an observation. Bad, sick people kill people without writing manifestos. 140 Christians were killed in Nigeria over a 3 week period because of their religion but nary a word uttered... Why? Couple reasons. 1) It's ok to make fun of and dehumanized Christians so for sickos, its a easy step to take to kill them. Remember, we have plenty on here who relentlessly pick on Christianity but if a Muslim were ever on here, the cowards wouldn't say a word. Mike Pence has an opinion on LBGTQF and its a dog whistle meant for someone, somewhere. Muslims throw a gay guy off a roof but they're against Trump so its cool. Face it, if a sicko Muslim walked into a Southern Baptist Church ans slaughtered 50, the out pouring of support would be lacking. A few would say they deserved it. Remember Las Vegas and how many leftist said they were Trump voters and gun right supporters so tough $hit... 2) It's third world Africa. We expect that to happen, like black on black murders in every major city that never get reported except in the back pages of the paper. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by T And T Garage on 03/18/19 at 06:05:50 566463727564734C60736A010 wrote:
That is actually a fair statement. Not due to either party - it's due to lack of interest in the US in general. That, and 24 hour news cycle. Africa doesn't sell. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by WebsterMark on 03/18/19 at 06:45:48 ....and point proven. Thanks my friend. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by T And T Garage on 03/18/19 at 08:57:26 437176676071665975667F140 wrote:
Seriously dude - you are not in any way, shape or form, my friend. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by MnSpring on 03/18/19 at 14:24:31 263837363B263D20520 wrote:
The reason for the UL’s and the UL Media, putting the N.Z. tragedy on, over and over and over and over. YET, little mention, or, totally forgetting, to talk about the: “…attack on Mass at a Catholic church in central Nigeria … 18 dead…” https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2018/april/nigeria-fulani-attack-catholic-church-benue-boko-haram.html “…March 4, 2019, Fulani militants attacked Tse-Tema Dula, Tse-Ugor, and Tse-Jabu villages of Mbacohon area in Gwer West Local Council area of Benue State. According to ICC’s local sources, 23 people were killed. …” https://www.persecution.org/2019/03/11/fulani-militants-kill-20-nigeria-machetes-gunfire/ “…killings … in Mexico, have steadily, if quietly, outpaced the number of civilian deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq combined….” https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/the-staggering-death-toll-of-mexicos-drug-war/ “…'He asked are you Christian? Then he shot and killed them’…” https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/02/oregon-college-shooting-he-asked-are-you-christian-then-he-shot-and-killed-them “…Puerto Rico… 78 killings reported in January …” https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/puerto-rico-reports-78-killings-deadliest-months-article-1.3793236 “…What we mainly have are fetuses that appear in trash cans…” https://elpais.com/elpais/2018/12/18/inenglish/1545137527_550183.html “… Oregon … father of survivor says gunman was ‘targeting Christians’ …” https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/oregon-college-shooting-father-of-survivor-says-gunman-was-targeting-christians-a6676306.html “…11 people were killed in an attack on a Catholic church service in southern Nigeria…” https://www.worthynews.com/26349-christians-killed-injured-church-shooting-southern-nigeria “… Christians have been killed … The Islamic State (IS) extremist group claimed responsibility…” https://gandhara.rferl.org/a/pakistan-quetta-christians-killed-drive-by-shooting/29169887.html And on and on and on it goes. Little or no coverage, and quickly forgot. Unless the, shot, are ‘favorite’ of the UL Major media. Or a UL Media ‘bad guy’ is doing the shooting. Oh and the, 'Manifesto' that the tt wrote in post #24, in answer to WM's post. DOES make the point, perfectly, that, tt and like, are only interested in, something which, ONLY, bolsters their TDS. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by LostArtist on 03/18/19 at 14:35:05 what do you mean little or no coverage?? how'd you find out about them? |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by LostArtist on 03/18/19 at 14:46:28 and let's look at these a bit shall we..... 13300D2E2C3730395E0 wrote:
The reason for the UL’s and the UL Media, putting the N.Z. tragedy on, over and over and over and over. YET, little mention, or, totally forgetting, to talk about the: Most of these are in 3rd world countries where violence is rampant in general.... so violence is NOT NEWS, it's a way of life there. sure it's tragic, but it's like reporting the water is blue in the Caribbean.... I bet you didn't know about these specific examples until you went looking for them... cause it's just general knowledge that some places are violent and dangerous... New Zealand isn't one of those places. and Yes, the "news" is sensationalized and has problems with systematic racism. “…attack on Mass at a Catholic church in central Nigeria … 18 dead…” https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2018/april/nigeria-fulani-attack-catholic-church-benue-boko-haram.html “…March 4, 2019, Fulani militants attacked Tse-Tema Dula, Tse-Ugor, and Tse-Jabu villages of Mbacohon area in Gwer West Local Council area of Benue State. According to ICC’s local sources, 23 people were killed. …” https://www.persecution.org/2019/03/11/fulani-militants-kill-20-nigeria-machetes-gunfire/ “…killings … in Mexico, have steadily, if quietly, outpaced the number of civilian deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq combined….” https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/the-staggering-death-toll-of-mexicos-drug-war/ “…'He asked are you Christian? Then he shot and killed them’…” https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/02/oregon-college-shooting-he-asked-are-you-christian-then-he-shot-and-killed-them “…Puerto Rico… 78 killings reported in January …” https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/puerto-rico-reports-78-killings-deadliest-months-article-1.3793236 “…What we mainly have are fetuses that appear in trash cans…” https://elpais.com/elpais/2018/12/18/inenglish/1545137527_550183.html “… Oregon … father of survivor says gunman was ‘targeting Christians’ …” https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/oregon-college-shooting-father-of-survivor-says-gunman-was-targeting-christians-a6676306.html “…11 people were killed in an attack on a Catholic church service in southern Nigeria…” https://www.worthynews.com/26349-christians-killed-injured-church-shooting-southern-nigeria At least 11 people were killed in an attack on a Catholic church service in southern Nigeria today that apparently was rooted in a conflict with a relative of one of the parishioners, authorities said. so not really about their religion there is it??? “… Christians have been killed … The Islamic State (IS) extremist group claimed responsibility…” https://gandhara.rferl.org/a/pakistan-quetta-christians-killed-drive-by-shooting/29169887.html And on and on and on it goes. Little or no coverage, and quickly forgot. Unless the, shot, are ‘favorite’ of the UL Major media. Or a UL Media ‘bad guy’ is doing the shooting. Oh and the, 'Manifesto' that the tt wrote in post #24, in answer to WM's post. DOES make the point, perfectly, that, tt and like, are only interested in, something which, ONLY, bolsters their TDS. [/quote] |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by T And T Garage on 03/18/19 at 15:28:24 43605D7E7C6760690E0 wrote:
There you go again, calling me an "it". "the tt". Now, what are you saying? Are you calling me a "thing"? Is that your way of putting me down? What a pathetic little boy you are. Seriously mn, what's your fukcing problem? Hey vers - check out the kind of troll that mn is. The worst kind. Maybe someday we'll actually have constructive discourse on here - when mn's gone. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by Eegore on 03/18/19 at 19:37:26 "Maybe someday we'll actually have constructive discourse on here - when mn's gone." Why would any of us be depended on any other member to leave in order to have a productive conversation? There is absolutely nothing that forces us to reply to any post. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by eau de sauvage on 03/18/19 at 20:02:15 Eegore, no comment on the articles I posted for you, upthread. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by LostArtist on 03/18/19 at 20:34:08 4F6F6D65786F0A0 wrote:
because talking to yourself isn't a conversation. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by T And T Garage on 03/19/19 at 05:08:39 5676747C6176130 wrote:
True. But surely you yourself know what I'm referring to. I've seen you respond to mn's inane posts. I guess I just can't fathom someone being that ignorant and still being able to function in society. It's a curiosity at the very least. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by MnSpring on 03/19/19 at 09:42:00 6C727D7C716C776A180 wrote:
Here are a couple more. Yep they were, ‘reported’, yet not nearly as long, and hard, and repeated, as the N.Z. event, or a school shooting. And NOT AT ALL, picked up by a, ‘big’ media. (much less the, 'Yahhhooooo', 'news, LOLOL) "Christian Death Toll Rises to 200 in 4-Day Muslim ‘Killing Spree’ https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/06/30/christian-death-toll-rises-to-200-in-4-day-muslim-killing-spree-in-nigeria/?fbclid=IwAR3M3icFuR9rzo4auSN5dBp9KcczQ-32jmwA5X66gPF5kFK3CyqWL4HmUoA “bombing at Catholic cathedral in Philippines” https://beta.ctvnews.ca/national/world/2019/1/27/1_4270952.html?fbclid=IwAR3FgDMcAqoVI0yRsak7-ZkRT1srcM_9jdWQvF9aalwVTM3ht59Wlvu4wt4 |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by T And T Garage on 03/19/19 at 10:13:51 4F6C5172706B6C65020 wrote:
Here are a couple more. Yep they were, ‘reported’, yet not nearly as long, and hard, and repeated, as the N.Z. event, or a school shooting. And NOT AT ALL, picked up by a, ‘big’ media. (much less the, 'Yahhhooooo', 'news, LOLOL) "Christian Death Toll Rises to 200 in 4-Day Muslim ‘Killing Spree’ https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/06/30/christian-death-toll-rises-to-200-in-4-day-muslim-killing-spree-in-nigeria/?fbclid=IwAR3M3icFuR9rzo4auSN5dBp9KcczQ-32jmwA5X66gPF5kFK3CyqWL4HmUoA “bombing at Catholic cathedral in Philippines” https://beta.ctvnews.ca/national/world/2019/1/27/1_4270952.html?fbclid=IwAR3FgDMcAqoVI0yRsak7-ZkRT1srcM_9jdWQvF9aalwVTM3ht59Wlvu4wt4 [/quote] See Lost's response to you. He pretty much covers it. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by MnSpring on 03/19/19 at 12:05:35 405E51505D405B46340 wrote:
OK so you believe the, SAME thing, as he said, Such as: "...violence is NOT NEWS, it’s a way of life..." and "...the “news" is sensationalized and has problems with systematic racism..." ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Especially every time one sees Chicken Noodle News, The absolute, Racism, they portray, against any person, that is the least bit Conservative. Is VERY evident ! |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by T And T Garage on 03/19/19 at 12:14:47 6C4F725153484F46210 wrote:
OK so you believe the, SAME thing, as he said, Such as: "...violence is NOT NEWS, it’s a way of life..." and "...the “news" is sensationalized and has problems with systematic racism..." ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Especially every time one sees Chicken Noodle News, The absolute, Racism, they portray, against any person, that is the least bit Conservative. Is VERY evident ! [/quote] I agree with Lost's response. Stop making a bigger idiot of yourself - or don't, I could care less. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by LostArtist on 03/19/19 at 14:02:22 when did conservative become a race........? |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by Eegore on 03/19/19 at 14:33:14 "True. But surely you yourself know what I'm referring to. I've seen you respond to mn's inane posts." I respond but I do not replicate any denigrating patterns of response. I must have misunderstood as I was interpreting your response as one referring to insults over substance. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by MnSpring on 03/19/19 at 14:51:56 45667A7D487B7D607A7D090 wrote:
That's 'Right'. Their are NO, Black, Brown, Yellow, Red, etc, skinned Conservatives. And their are no religions that have Conservative people. No way could CHICKEN NOODLE News, ever be, prejudice, concerning a white skinned, Christian religion, person. Of course, Bernie and Cenk, welcome, ALL. (as long as they believe, absolutely everything they tell them) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by LostArtist on 03/19/19 at 15:28:31 5A794467657E7970170 wrote:
That's 'Right'. Their are NO, Black, Brown, Yellow, Red, etc, skinned Conservatives. And their are no religions that have Conservative people. No way could CHICKEN NOODLE News, ever be, prejudice, concerning a white skinned, Christian religion, person. Of course, Bernie and Cenk, welcome, ALL. (as long as they believe, absolutely everything they tell them) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D [/quote] did you learn something today? maybe the difference between racism and prejudice? I kinda doubt it... but you seem to be an expert in proclaiming to be a victim of hate..... I was expecting more of you... sad.... |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by T And T Garage on 03/20/19 at 04:58:47 58787A726F781D0 wrote:
Eegore, that's what sets you apart - thus my respect for you. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by Eegore on 03/20/19 at 10:09:13 "Eegore, no comment on the articles I posted for you, upthread. " They make sense and apply to a degree. I was simply stating that adult conversation is expected, but not reciprocated in this thread. I asked what the topic was about and instead of answering with anything useable Webstermark indicated that he somehow knew I was: 1. Around people. 2. What those people discuss 3. That we had access to a global news source This concludes that the specific news he was referencing was available at my specific location, to multiple people, and that those people would choose to discuss that specific topic with me. I found that interesting as I was not in that scenario at all. Yet asking a question extended a conversation with zero productive dialogue. |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by MnSpring on 03/20/19 at 11:43:50 5B7864635665637E6463170 wrote:
Can you provide a concise definition of what is the Difference Between Prejudice and Racism? With out being, Prejudice and Racist, in the describing? |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by Eegore on 03/20/19 at 12:15:34 "Can you provide a concise definition of what is the Difference Between Prejudice and Racism? With out being, Prejudice and Racist, in the describing?" One can have a prejudice and not be a racist by definition. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/prejudice https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racist |
|
Title: Re: Don't comment unless... Post by WebsterMark on 03/21/19 at 05:23:25 0626242C3126430 wrote:
*Lighten up Francis..... it was a humorous comment for the most part and commentary on how it is you have such detailed opinions on some topics in the daily news and totally oblivious to others. Some may say you intentionally do this so as to appear far above the fray, removed from the daily coming and goings of the peasantry. *line from the movie Stripes |
|
SuzukiSavage.com » Powered by YaBB 2.2! YaBB © 2000-2007. All Rights Reserved. |