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Message started by T And T Garage on 03/08/19 at 11:13:55

Title: paul manafort
Post by T And T Garage on 03/08/19 at 11:13:55

Gets a "whopping" 47 months.

Anyone here think that's OK?

Title: Re: paul manafort
Post by Eegore on 03/08/19 at 12:49:44

I could care less what this guy gets. Is there enough cases similar to this to create an average?

Where I'm from you can get a life sentence for having too much marijuana, but get less than 2 years for raping children.

Sentencing reform where I am is very difficult to influence.

Title: Re: paul manafort
Post by T And T Garage on 03/08/19 at 13:41:44

7757555D4057320 wrote:

I could care less what this guy gets. Is there enough cases similar to this to create an average?

I'd have to think there are. The federal guidelines are there for a reason. But a trump supporting judge pays no attention to that.

Not to worry, this idiot manafort is going away for quite a while once his next sentence is announced.

Where I'm from you can get a life sentence for having too much marijuana, but get less than 2 years for raping children.

Sentencing reform where I am is very difficult to influence.

Yeah, that's a shame. More time for pot possession than a hit and run...

Title: Re: paul manafort
Post by Serowbot on 03/08/19 at 13:48:33

Trump can pardon these 4 years,... I don't think he can pardon the next sentence.
Maybe this judge went light so that the next can feel free to balance the scales on a sentence that isn't pardonable... ???...

Title: Re: paul manafort
Post by WebsterMark on 03/08/19 at 13:52:57

Geez you guys can't get anything right......

It was a b!tchslap by the judge against Mueller's over reach.

Title: Re: paul manafort
Post by T And T Garage on 03/08/19 at 14:02:06

1C2E29383F2E39062A39204B0 wrote:

Geez you guys can't get anything right......

It was a b!tchslap by the judge against Mueller's over reach.

It was a miscarriage of justice. Nothing short of that.

BTW - Mueller isn't done yet.

Title: Re: paul manafort
Post by WebsterMark on 03/08/19 at 14:55:35

It was an attempt to remind 'justice' what it's job is.

Title: Re: paul manafort
Post by T And T Garage on 03/08/19 at 16:40:04

635156474051467955465F340 wrote:

It was an attempt to remind 'justice' what it's job is.

There was no justice served.

Not to worry, he's got another sentencing hearing coming up. Here's to hoping it's fair and follows the law.

Title: Re: paul manafort
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/08/19 at 18:07:19

The sentence, as well as the events leading up to it, as well as the coming sentence, not to mention the financial losses and complete disgrace, as well as the toll it's taken on him, certainly seem to my mind that he's paid a price no less than what he had ordered at the cosmic restaurant of life.

However the issue here concerning Manafort's lenient sentence is not about whether he's been punished enough, the point of the controversy about the leniency, is that it's a public repudiation of justice for all.

Judges normally go by the sentencing guidelines which were a *minimum* of 10 years. Judges rarely strayed from the guidelines that much. This whole situation is similar to Oscar Pistorius who also represented the privileged whites who are above the law in S.A.

He clearly murdered his girlfriend by blasting her to death at point blank range because he didn't know she was in the toilet, he lied. It didn't occur to him to shout out first, as any normal human would have done.

He got sentenced initially to five years, and with parole would have been out in two.

There's nothing big deal about this Manafort sentence, in that it's not like we didn't already know there's one rule of law for the wealthy and connected and then there's the rule of law for everyone else.