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Message started by WebsterMark on 12/03/18 at 05:23:21

Title: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by WebsterMark on 12/03/18 at 05:23:21

There's a lot packed into this article.

https://quillette.com/2018/11/30/the-new-evolution-deniers/

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by Eegore on 12/03/18 at 06:11:07

This is the part I think says it best:

"But while there is evidence for the fluidity of sex in many organisms, this is simply not the case in humans. We can acknowledge the existence of very rare cases in humans where sex is ambiguous, but this does not negate the reality that sex in humans is functionally binary."

Key word being "functionally" and that people are mixing gender with sex in scientific terms. Be gender whatever, but your sex is biologically measurable and defined.

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by WebsterMark on 12/03/18 at 06:25:39

And those in science fields who state this fact are being treated as those who demanded creation be taught in schools alongside of or in place of evolution. The difference is the social justice 'warriors' have control of social media AND academics. And let's not even mention the news and entertainment culture.

The irony is not unlike the $hitstorm that descends on any public figure or scientist who questions the approved Climate Change narrative. They are labeled anti-science. Which is more than a little ironic because these people used long standing scientific principals to challenge the hypothesis which have failed to deliver.

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by T And T Garage on 12/03/18 at 08:40:58

Good article. I agree with it.

However, I think you give too much credence to the SJWs.

I don't see them as being that prevalent. Of course, the author is based in UC Santa Barbara - that could have something to do with his perspective. Yes, they're out there - but not to the degree the article might want you to think - at least not nationwide.

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by WebsterMark on 12/03/18 at 09:39:57

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by T And T Garage on 12/03/18 at 10:03:07

7E4C4B5A5D4C5B64485B42290 wrote:

BS.

SJW's have made significant negative changes to numerous issues, it's just most of us don't have the means to fight back. They dominate and control the media therefore they control the narrative.

I disagree. Cite an example.

Think about comedy for example. They've damaged comedy forever.
You're only allowed to make certain jokes. Jimmy Fallon was tortured for having fun with Trump when he was on his show. Late night shows are MSNBC commentary with occasional jokes.

Wait, all I've heard from the righties is that "comics mean nothing" - that's why trump won... right?

Now suddenly, they're relevant?

Remember just a few months ago when Astronaut Scott Kelly was forced to apologize for quoting Winston Churchill. Winston Churchill!!!

I saw that. So, who do you condemn? I think Kelly should have just shut up and left it stand. No, he had to respond - thereby giving the power to his unjust accusers. There's no doubt that the Churchill quote was appropriate. Guys like Kelly should stand their ground.

Dress in the wrong Halloween costume, have a picture taken and see what happens if you apply for a job at a university.

Well, if you're dumb enough to dress as a nazi officer, take your lumps. If you dress in black-face, take your lumps.

Wear a MAGA hat on a major college campus and see what happens or show up to get your picture taken in grade school with a Trump shirt on.

Hmmm... but you've said time and time again that trump is good and that he's the best president ever (or something to that effect). It just so happens that trump is not even close to being popular. What do you think would happen to me if I wore a pro-hillary t-shirt to a country bar in West Virginia? Same thing mark.

Be a military recruiter and try to visit some colleges....

I know 2 Marine recruiters and 1 kid that's in ROTC in college. I've not seen nor heard of any problems from them.

Scarlett Johansson said something positive about Israel and got creamed online. She apologized, but they didn't forget however. She had to pull out of a role playing a trans man.

Again, see my reply about Mr. Kelly.

Read about the insanity at Evergreen College.

Yeah, and look how "great" they're doing. People aren't stupid mark. Not everyone falls into line around the SJWs. You don't seem to realize that.

Be an accomplished writer or reporter and publish and article questioning the widely accepted figure of 10% homosexual and see what happens to you.

Facts matter.

Jordan Peterson was a widely respected Toronto professor until he published a book that sold millions. Now he's targeted for extinction.

There's no proof of that - but, the same could be said for Dr. Ford - and you don't seem to worried about that, now do you?

It's everywhere.

It's no more prevalent than it ever was. Social media just gives it a bigger audience.

It's guys like you that scream back at these SJWs that give them more power. You fall for the tactics. You fight the wrong battles.

Get out and see what's really going on.

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by WebsterMark on 12/03/18 at 11:15:12

Shocking a leftist is blind to free speech suppression.....

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by WebsterMark on 12/03/18 at 11:29:35

Was just out driving and heard local radio station is joining an Ohio station and won't play Baby its cold outside" cause someone objected to lyrics.

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by T And T Garage on 12/03/18 at 11:34:10

6A585F4E49584F705C4F563D0 wrote:

Shocking a leftist is blind to free speech suppression.....

I don't see the "suppression" you speak of.

Being critical of someone is just that - criticism. If you don't like criticism, then don't ever publish in a public forum.

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by T And T Garage on 12/03/18 at 11:34:56

6D5F58494E5F48775B48513A0 wrote:

Was just out driving and heard local radio station is joining an Ohio station and won't play Baby its cold outside" cause someone objected to lyrics.

Well, they're idiots. What are you going to do?

Maybe call the station and tell them they're idiots.

That's your right.

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by eau de sauvage on 12/03/18 at 14:48:45

685A5D4C4B5A4D725E4D543F0 wrote:

There's a lot packed into this article.
https://quillette.com/2018/11/30/the-new-evolution-deniers/

Lol, yes there is information there. However you don't understand any of it, the only reason you posted it is because it is disparaging of so called 'leftist views'.

If you do not give your understanding of what you've posted or what it means or what point you're making then how the fcuk is it possible for anyone to make any meaningful contribution to the thread. You don't understand any of the article obviously. So I guess that explains why we're instead talking about radio shows.

@WM what is the point of posting something that you do not understand?

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/03/18 at 20:19:04

you do not give your understanding of what you've posted or what it means or what point you're making then how the fcuk is it possible for

Ohhh Ohhh Ohhh,, Such
Language!
Clearly the rantings of a mental midget..

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by WebsterMark on 12/03/18 at 20:36:11

Lol, yes there is information there. However you don't understand any of it, the only reason you posted it is because it is disparaging of so called 'leftist views'.

Why do you immerse yourself with the business of the USA and why work so hard trying to make yourself seem superior? Why do you care so much about us?

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by T And T Garage on 12/04/18 at 08:44:31

714344555243546B47544D260 wrote:

Why does it bother you so much?

That would be a more appropriate question, mark.

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by WebsterMark on 12/04/18 at 09:41:46

I wasn't asking you.

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by T And T Garage on 12/04/18 at 10:40:17

546661707766714E627168030 wrote:

I wasn't asking you.

ROWR!... kitty's angry!

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by WebsterMark on 12/04/18 at 12:41:18

I'm sorry....are you upset you're not the center of attention?

Have you been to Australia? Have you been anywhere other than Shitcago for any length of time?

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by T And T Garage on 12/04/18 at 13:17:18

5B696E7F78697E416D7E670C0 wrote:

I'm sorry....are you upset you're not the center of attention?

Have you been to Australia? Have you been anywhere other than Shitcago for any length of time?

Lighten up francis...

I'm merely commenting. It's kinda what this forum is all about...

What difference does it make where I've been?

Oh, nice name calling of Chicago. Of course, St. Louis is the absolute pinnacle of shitholes - so I guess you know from experience.

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by WebsterMark on 12/04/18 at 13:33:50

Yes, I do. Places of it are a $hithole. Run by Dems for generations. What else would you expect.

Don't worry what I ask your fellow tin foil hat conspiracy freak Eau.

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by T And T Garage on 12/04/18 at 13:56:13

7B494E5F58495E614D5E472C0 wrote:

Yes, I do. Places of it are a $hithole. Run by Dems for generations. What else would you expect.

No, I've seen St. Louis. It's pretty much one gigantic sh!thole. lol

I'm not sure why anyone would stay there...

Don't worry what I ask your fellow tin foil hat conspiracy freak Eau.

I don't worry - I commnet.

You seem to be the one worrying. With good reason I guess. :D

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by WebsterMark on 12/04/18 at 15:19:17

No, I've seen St. Louis. It's pretty much one gigantic sh!thole. lol

I'm not sure why anyone would stay there...

Well now you're just being an idiot. I've said plenty of times Chicago is a great city, saddled by poor minority dominated neighborhoods enslaved by Democratic politicians. Every major US metro area is like that. St Louis has some great areas. Again, like most cities, most of it is fine. There's really only one no-go direction. Much like Chicago I think except Chicago's bigger so perhaps there's more than one.

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by MnSpring on 12/04/18 at 16:13:18

485659585548534E3C0 wrote:

No, I've seen St. Louis. It's pretty much one gigantic sh!thole. lol
I'm not sure why anyone would stay there...

So it is perfectly correct to say:
"...I've seen Chicago, (and stayed their, and done business their, and drove thru their) It's pretty much one gigantic sh!thole. lol
I'm not sure why anyone would stay there......"

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by T And T Garage on 12/04/18 at 19:00:11

586A6D7C7B6A7D426E7D640F0 wrote:

No, I've seen St. Louis. It's pretty much one gigantic sh!thole. lol

I'm not sure why anyone would stay there...

Well now you're just being an idiot. I've said plenty of times Chicago is a great city, saddled by poor minority dominated neighborhoods enslaved by Democratic politicians.

You have? Where? When? So, you didn't use the word Sh!tcago??

Every major US metro area is like that. St Louis has some great areas. Again, like most cities, most of it is fine. There's really only one no-go direction. Much like Chicago I think except Chicago's bigger so perhaps there's more than one.

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by Eegore on 12/05/18 at 06:46:19

I don't think Denver has poor minority dominated neighborhoods enslaved by Democratic politicians, policy there is very progressive and very little of the law that's passed is from Democratic elects.

Which is interesting because most elected officials are Democrats, but law policy is typically passed by Republicans.

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by WebsterMark on 12/05/18 at 07:51:59

if that's true, (which I don't know) it's an exception. Do you live in Denver?

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by Eegore on 12/05/18 at 10:48:19

I live mostly in CO and am active in legislation there consistently.

I no longer have a home in Denver.

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by WebsterMark on 12/05/18 at 14:14:38

Which is interesting because most elected officials are Democrats, but law policy is typically passed by Republicans.

Explain.

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/05/18 at 17:27:30

It's obvious.
Even though the bubs are in the minority, their condensed EEEVILLL is sufficient to get laws passed.
More evidence that lefties are mentally deficient

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by Eegore on 12/06/18 at 16:16:42

"Which is interesting because most elected officials are Democrats, but law policy is typically passed by Republicans."

"Explain"

Numerically Colorado elects Democrats at a higher rate than Republicans for persons that hold public office. Say 51 out of every 100 elected officials are Democrats.

Laws that are posed to the public in Denver that contain 51% or more Democratic representation by elected public officials are passed at a rate of less than 50%.

There are more elected Democrats, but applicable law passing through means of election are typically assembled and posed by persons who are Republican within the city of Denver.

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by WebsterMark on 12/06/18 at 18:21:21

Why are the Democratically proposed laws not passed as often?

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by Eegore on 12/06/18 at 21:06:31

"Why are the Democratically proposed laws not passed as often? "

I don't know. I just know that despite Democratically elected majorities in the state, Denver as a city typically does not vote that way for local structure of law. The people I know don't typically care about party alignment and vote based off of policy, but my pool of people to ask is so small that it would represent about one fifty thousandths of one percent of Denver registered voters that participated in elections.

How do you assess the implementation of all other major cities in the US? Are you taking data pools of registered voters placing them into Democratic/Republican/Other and then comparing them to what party presented each law? How did you figure out all major cities implement Democratically proposed laws over 51%?

How many cities is "every major" city in the US? What's the population cutoff point? How do you decide what law/policy directly affects minorities living under the poverty line causing "enslavement"? How do you define enslavement when analyzing Democratic civic policy?

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by WebsterMark on 12/07/18 at 08:09:38

Come on Eegore...... you know the truth. From 2015 but probably still the same.

1.St. Louis, Missouri. Murder rate per 100k people: 59.29. Number of reported murders (2015): 188. …

2.Baltimore, Maryland. Murder rate per 100k people: 55.37. Number of reported murders (2015): …

3.Detroit, Michigan. Murder rate per 100k people: 43.82. Number of reported murders (2015): 295. …

4.New Orleans, Louisiana. Murder rate per 100k people: 41.68. Number of reported murders (2015): …

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by Eegore on 12/07/18 at 08:43:03

How are you assessing law implementation by political affiliation?

Those are murder rates, are you indicating that murder is a byproduct of enslavement, or that murder rate is indicative of some form of reduced freedom specific to 51% or higher Democratically presented laws that have been implemented?

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by WebsterMark on 12/07/18 at 08:54:30

Again, to repeat myself, come on Eegore....

Yes, Democratic policies enslave minorities.

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by Eegore on 12/07/18 at 09:34:06

I understand what you are saying but how did you come up with "every major city"?

What is the standard for being defined as "major city", a population amount maybe? There must be some way to assign cities by major on non-major and then look into the implemented law-pattern.

Also there must be some way to define "enslave" for this discussion, as I do not consider murder to be a statistic that indicates a reduction in personal freedom, so you must mean it in some other way.

So to repeat myself, are you indicating that murder is a byproduct of enslavement, or that murder rate is indicative of some form of reduced freedom specific to 51% or higher Democratically presented laws that have been implemented?

Title: Re: The New Evolution Deniers
Post by WebsterMark on 12/07/18 at 09:55:52

I'm saying the high rates of violent crime in predominantly minority neighborhoods is a product of enslaving generations to government subsidies. The War on Poverty inadvertently created a class of citizens trained over the years/decades/generations to subsist on government programs. This further segregates this class not just physically, but socially and emotionally as well. Section 8 housing used to be a stigma, now it's expected. Welfare used to be a stigma, now it's expected.

Watch the video from St Louis and tell me how to fix this lifestyle?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN2jHTRzZS8