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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> Starter engaged after kill switch flipped off /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1543584419 Message started by BGregg on 11/30/18 at 05:26:59 |
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Title: Starter engaged after kill switch flipped off Post by BGregg on 11/30/18 at 05:26:59 This morning when I flipped the kill switch to shut the bike down I heard what sounded like the starter engaging for a split second. I had just flipped the kill switch shutting the bike down so I don't think I accidentally hit the starter button. Has this happened to anyone? It's the second time I've noticed it did this, first time being a couple of weeks ago. Is this a symptom of a future starter relay problem? |
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Title: Re: Starter engaged after kill switch flipped off Post by Dave on 11/30/18 at 05:37:42 It could be the sound the engine makes if it comes up on the compression stroke as the spinning comes to a stop - then the engine kicks backwards. The 95 and earlier bikes did not have a torque limiter on the starter gear, and the kick back can break the engine case. You can add the torque limiter if you have an early bike and want the protection. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1288911670 |
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Title: Re: Starter engaged after kill switch flipped off Post by BGregg on 11/30/18 at 07:55:37 My bike is an 05 so I'm guessing it has the torque limited you were talking about. So you think it's just a dumb luck I killed it in the perfect part of the stroke to make a weird noise? |
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Title: Re: Starter engaged after kill switch flipped off Post by Dave on 11/30/18 at 08:27:34 18283B343E35341D283F3D3D5A0 wrote:
It happens to me 2 or 3 times out of every 100 rides. The bike makes a weird gear noise just before the engine stops. |
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Title: Re: Starter engaged after kill switch flipped off Post by verslagen1 on 11/30/18 at 08:59:12 59626F7869657E78636B66790A0 wrote:
It happens to me 2 or 3 times out of every 100 rides. The bike makes a weird gear noise just before the engine stops.[/quote] Same here. It's a sorta twang sound. |
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Title: Re: Starter engaged after kill switch flipped off Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/30/18 at 11:59:15 The decompression timer module Can go bad and start spinning the starter. Very rare problem, but if it's parked and in gear, it's going down. IDK how to immediately stop it, maybe pull the fuse? |
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Title: Re: Starter engaged after kill switch flipped off Post by Serowbot on 11/30/18 at 14:30:02 223D3B3C21261727172F3D317A480 wrote:
Scary thought... anybody got a solution?... :-? |
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Title: Re: Starter engaged after kill switch flipped off Post by verslagen1 on 11/30/18 at 14:40:06 2036213C24313C27530 wrote:
Scary thought... anybody got a solution?... :-?[/quote] The circuit should go thru the ig switch, but not sure if they did that because switching noise may kill the chips. Other option is to go manual. Or you could water proof the little black box. |
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Title: Re: Starter engaged after kill switch flipped off Post by Panhead on 11/30/18 at 15:10:00 I agree with Dave that you are hearing the engine engaging the starter clutch as it rotates backward off a compression stroke when ignition is turned off. If you have an early model without the torque limiter you can just follow this procedure for shut down: while the engine is still running and in gear, hold the brake, let the clutch out just far enough to start engaging and you hear the engine start to slow down then use the kill switch to shut down. That will stop the engine dead in its tracks with no "kick back". Just be sure to turn the ignition switch off when you're done. I used that method on my '86 for years and it also stops the occasional "boom" out the exhaust after shutdown. |
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Title: Re: Starter engaged after kill switch flipped off Post by batman on 11/30/18 at 18:25:43 simply pull out the choke fully,just before turning off the kill switch . the reason the bike kicks back is because the mix is lean and explodes in the hot header pipe , backing up through the open exhaust valve . Using the choke makes the fuel in the header pipe either to rich to burn or to rich to explode. |
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Title: Re: Starter engaged after kill switch flipped off Post by BGregg on 12/02/18 at 13:43:40 My bike is an 05 so the torque limiter is going to prevent damage in this kick back scenario? |
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Title: Re: Starter engaged after kill switch flipped off Post by verslagen1 on 12/02/18 at 14:17:51 Yes. 4F74796E7F73686E757D706F1C0 wrote:
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Title: Re: Starter engaged after kill switch flipped off Post by marekbuk on 12/12/18 at 04:19:38 I had the same problem and ended up frying my battery (liLon) when the starter engaged while I was moving :-( I replaced the decompression module and put in a manual switch that isolates the module feed once the bike is running - once bitten, twice shy! |
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Title: Re: Starter engaged after kill switch flipped off Post by marekbuk on 12/12/18 at 04:22:56 Here you can see the de-compressor isolating switch - mounted on the battery box and a battery voltage display |
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Title: Re: Starter engaged after kill switch flipped off Post by verslagen1 on 12/12/18 at 07:38:18 797566717F76617F140 wrote:
Turn it off when the bike is off too. That'll solve those midnight takeoffs too. |
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Title: Re: Starter engaged after kill switch flipped off Post by marekbuk on 12/12/18 at 08:04:04 :) |
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