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Message started by eau de sauvage on 11/12/18 at 23:26:49

Title: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by eau de sauvage on 11/12/18 at 23:26:49

Having lost in all the rust belt States that gave him a go in 2016 and with new oversight in the House. It's clear that we are in Peak Trump, it's downhill all the way now.

He can't even troll any longer he's used up all the weapons. I believe Whittaker was just meant to annoy but even that has backfired. Trump is now going reap what he has sown. His only friend is Vlad.

Here's Seth Meyers wrapping up the aftermath.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCH8Mg0WFaw[/media]

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by WebsterMark on 11/13/18 at 04:50:32

Makes sense you'd get your news from Seth Meyers. I think some old school house rock videos are on YouTube.

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/13/18 at 10:10:10

Hmmm, let me think,
Trump, the same guy who was
Never
Ever
Gonna be president
Is now not gonna be reelected.
Same geniuses who were so wrong before
Must be right now..

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by Serowbot on 11/13/18 at 10:15:26

Red states are going Blue...
Can you name one that's getting redder?...
The trend is not Trump

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by WebsterMark on 11/13/18 at 10:24:16

On this we agree. It's no guarantee he's one term but I put his odds at this moment at no better than 50/50. Circumstances can change of course.

I've always said the liberals will win the war. You will eventually succeed in destroying this country. Trump was a lull, a timeout in your march. I was hoping for 8 years, but who knows, might only be 4.

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/13/18 at 11:18:44

. You will eventually succeed in destroying this country

Yeah...

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by T And T Garage on 11/13/18 at 11:20:20

544B4D4A5750615161594B470C3E0 wrote:

. You will eventually succeed in destroying this country

Yeah...

Destroy your idea of a country.

Build the country that we should be and that our Forefathers wanted us to be.

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/13/18 at 11:23:25

Well Ookay!
Maybe I need to rethink things.
How about you give me a thumbnail sketch of what that will look like.

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by T And T Garage on 11/13/18 at 11:39:11

697670776A6D5C6C5C64767A31030 wrote:

Well Ookay!
Maybe I need to rethink things.
How about you give me a thumbnail sketch of what that will look like.

Oh, I dunno. Maybe for a start that we don't live in an oligarchy. That we reward corporations after they contribute to the country instead of before.
That we fund our political campaigns with public money. That we provide healthcare to all our citizens. That we get all our vets (and every other homeless person) off the streets. That we use our tax money wisely and not spend more than the next 10 countries put together, on our military.

Again... as a start.

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by WebsterMark on 11/13/18 at 11:52:01

Maybe for a start that we don't live in an oligarchy. We don't. About the only thing you can partially say that about is the news world. Thank God for Fox, Rush, WSJ and a few, very few, others.

That we reward corporations after they contribute to the country instead of before.
Reward.....? Reward for what? For life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Oh, that's right, the "you didn't build this" communistic, socialist philosophy. Corporations are made up of people which is what this nation is, people. Not "WE" as in government.

That we fund our political campaigns with public money
You mean give money only to those with speech approved by the government. No thanks you commie rat.

That we use our tax money wisely and not spend more than the next 10 countries put together, on our military.
More than one nation and millions would be dead and gone if it were not for the US. Someone's gotta carry the big stick. I'd rather it was us.

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by eau de sauvage on 11/13/18 at 12:12:42

@JoG,

As Michael Moore pointed out it was the rust belt that he had to flip and they fell for it, now they've flipped back after seeing they were completely hoodwinked.

And this has happened with the House stopping any oversight. Now Trump is going to be skewered.

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by T And T Garage on 11/13/18 at 12:48:21

5B696E7F78697E416D7E670C0 wrote:

Maybe for a start that we don't live in an oligarchy. We don't. About the only thing you can partially say that about is the news world. Thank God for Fox, Rush, WSJ and a few, very few, others.

LOL - rush... yeah. Hey, why not alex jones, hmm?

Anyway...

ol·i·gar·chy
/[ch712]äl[ch601][ch716][ch609]ärk[ch275]
noun
a small group of people having control of a country, organization, or institution.
"the ruling oligarchy of military men around the president"

Change the word "military" "corporate" and there you have it.

That we reward corporations after they contribute to the country instead of before.
Reward.....? Reward for what? For life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Oh, that's right, the "you didn't build this" communistic, socialist philosophy. Corporations are made up of people which is what this nation is, people. Not "WE" as in government.

LOL - once again, throwing out that whole "you didn't build" it nonsense. You know mark, there was a time when corporations had a conscience. They gave back without having to get massive tax breaks. Tell me, what the hell is wrong with that?

That we fund our political campaigns with public money
You mean give money only to those with speech approved by the government. No thanks you commie rat.

No, you obviously don't get it. But then, you probably like the 24/7 campaign commercials, pop ups and radio ads 6 months prior to an election, huh? Yeah, let's spend a billion on a presidential campaign and then get the likes of trump and hillary at the ballot...

Real swift of you mark.

That we use our tax money wisely and not spend more than the next 10 countries put together, on our military.
More than one nation and millions would be dead and gone if it were not for the US. Someone's gotta carry the big stick. I'd rather it was us.

Yeah, and even with all that spending, we've lost 6 times in the last 50 years...

Let's buy a $150 coffee cup and hire a civilian agency to do the same exact work that a recruit can do at only quadruple the price!

Go money!!!

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by WebsterMark on 11/13/18 at 13:06:01

They gave back without having to get massive tax breaks.

Corporations give enormous amounts back. I've seen it first hand. You're not in the business world so you don't know.

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by T And T Garage on 11/13/18 at 13:30:14

6F5D5A4B4C5D4A75594A53380 wrote:

They gave back without having to get massive tax breaks.

Corporations give enormous amounts back. I've seen it first hand. You're not in the business world so you don't know.

LOL - By that simplistic statement you just made - it's very obvious that you are the one that's not in the business world. You see mark - what you just did is called "projection" in psychological terms.

You still have no idea what it is that I do, now do you?

Well done!

Man, this is just too easy!

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by WebsterMark on 11/13/18 at 13:43:39

My point stands. I've seen corps give millions back. certainly some do it as a means of free publicity and as a defensive measure. But many others do it because they're people. Our company gives is one of the latter, we give away a small fortune.

As far as what you do, I know you don't have anything to do operating a business of any substantial size or making day to day decisions that impact significant amounts of money or people.

what you just did is called "projection" in psychological terms. did you find an old Reader's Digest last night or something?...

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by T And T Garage on 11/13/18 at 13:54:31

4B797E6F68796E517D6E771C0 wrote:

My point stands. I've seen corps give millions back. certainly some do it as a means of free publicity and as a defensive measure. But many others do it because they're people. Our company gives is one of the latter, we give away a small fortune.

So you say "your company" does. How do we know that you're not lying, hmm?

As far as what you do, I know you don't have anything to do operating a business of any substantial size or making day to day decisions that impact significant amounts of money or people.

How do you know that? Why is it you think you know that? Hell, you don't even know my name. (hint - it's not 'taint') ;D

what you just did is called "projection" in psychological terms. did you find an old Reader's Digest last night or something?...

No. Perhaps I know a lot about psychology and psychological abnormalities. Maybe I work for a Fortune 50 and know more than you think I do....

You will never know...

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by WebsterMark on 11/13/18 at 14:16:00

So you say "your company" does. How do we know that you're not lying, hmm? Cause I'm not a liar like you.

How do you know that? Why is it you think you know that? I've had numerous business conversations with you and it's obvious.

Maybe I work for a Fortune 50 and know more than you think I do.... On the production line perhaps. Not that working on production line is an indication someone lacks a grasp of reality like you. I've met some incredibly brilliant people on production lines. Dealing with you on this forum is an indication you lack a grasp of reality.

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by T And T Garage on 11/13/18 at 14:31:14

6C5E59484F5E49765A49503B0 wrote:

So you say "your company" does. How do we know that you're not lying, hmm? Cause I'm not a liar like you.

So, you call me a liar. Do you have any proof of that?

How do you know that? Why is it you think you know that? I've had numerous business conversations with you and it's obvious.

Yet you just don't know. You wish you knew, but you don't. And I'll bet that it drives you nuts! :D

Maybe I work for a Fortune 50 and know more than you think I do.... On the production line perhaps. Not that working on production line is an indication someone lacks a grasp of reality like you. I've met some incredibly brilliant people on production lines. Dealing with you on this forum is an indication you lack a grasp of reality.

LOL - again, projection.

Nicely done mark. You woven yourself a "cloak of delight".

That's some thick material you have there.

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by WebsterMark on 11/13/18 at 14:35:20

And I'll bet that it drives you nuts! Cheesy

You're livid right now because I'm hitting pretty close to home.

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by T And T Garage on 11/13/18 at 14:39:11

093B3C2D2A3B2C133F2C355E0 wrote:

And I'll bet that it drives you nuts! Cheesy

You're livid right now because I'm hitting pretty close to home.

Oh mark.

If you only knew - but then, you don't, do you?

I find great joy in that.

:D

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by WebsterMark on 11/13/18 at 14:49:19

Look, I'm sure you're a great guy and if we were neighbors, we'd have a beer and talk bikes. One of us would say one thing about politics and we'd know it was a topic to stay away from.

But on here, you're another soft socialist, American hating commie rat, union slug helping to destroy my nation.

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by T And T Garage on 11/13/18 at 18:10:32

152720313627300F233029420 wrote:

Look, I'm sure you're a great guy and if we were neighbors, we'd have a beer and talk bikes. One of us would say one thing about politics and we'd know it was a topic to stay away from.

Oh, I highly doubt it. I can smell ann coulter lovers a mile away. The problem is, they can't keep their mouths shut - just like her.

But on here, you're another soft socialist, American hating commie rat, union slug helping to destroy my nation.

And you're a paranoid righty that hates everything that's liberal no matter what (except all the benefits like SSI, Medicare, Cops & Firemen, the Interstate system, etc.), votes out of fear, thinks that Obama is a Muslim, sees color first, thinks that there are "good guys on both sides" and - refuses to acknowledge that it's not just your nation.

Get over it mark - it's my nation too - and all my millions of liberal friends.

And there's not thing one you can do about it.

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by eau de sauvage on 11/13/18 at 23:18:44

Experts weigh in on Trump's ludicrous claim that he couldn't honour US war dead on the 100th anniversary of the end of WW1, (an event remember that was the very purpose of his visit).

No one would buy a medium lift helicopter for tens of millions of dollars if it could not be flown in inclement weather. In fact, one of Sikorsky's best medium lift class markets is the oil rigs in the North Sea, which is among the most inhospitable operating environments on earth and requires rotor-wing aircraft that can fly in all types of weather.

More than most, Mr Trump, who has flown Sikorsky aircraft for years, should know his press office is uttering easily disprovable falsehoods in suggesting the aircraft was the cause of his absence from Armistice Day ceremonies.

First, that an initial line in some news accounts --that helicopters “can’t fly” in the rain—was just not true. Whether a president should prudently fly by helicopter during marginal weather conditions is of course a different question.

Second, I wanted to emphasize that White House plans for foreign travel always allow for the possibility of bad weather or other surprises. Thus any White House staff I’m aware of, including the one on which I worked long ago during the Carter administration, would have set up redundant contingency plans for getting a president where he needed to be. (After all, the other foreign leaders all managed to get to the site.) Part of the advance work for the trip would necessarily include thinking through how the president would reach his destinations, if the weather turned bad. I’ve been part of these meetings myself.

https://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2018/11/sikorsky-veteran-marine-one-rain/575815/

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by WebsterMark on 11/14/18 at 05:16:42

You guys are idiots. I've got potted plants smarter.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-speaks-at-military-cemetery-without-umbrella-in-soaking-rain

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by T And T Garage on 11/14/18 at 06:02:48

576562737465724D61726B000 wrote:

You guys are idiots. I've got potted plants smarter.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-speaks-at-military-cemetery-without-umbrella-in-soaking-rain

Yeah - a day late and a dollar short - typical of trump...

And your ability to suckle this idiot's taint is beyond any reason.

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by MnSpring on 11/15/18 at 09:49:42

584649484558435E2C0 wrote:
And your ability to suckle this idiot's taint is beyond any reason.

How is, your, ability,
to suckle Berni Sanders’s
and Cenk Uygur’s , ‘taint’,
'coming', along ????

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/15/18 at 10:21:04

Berni Sanders’s
and Cenk Uygur have each had taint hickeys treated in the emergency room.

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by Serowbot on 11/15/18 at 10:30:12

I had to Google that...

The shocker is,.. you didn't... :-?

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by MnSpring on 11/15/18 at 10:31:40

756B646568756E73010 wrote:

Just to be Sure, You, (the he/she called tt),
Do NOT believe their are,
"...good guys on both sides..."
because you Just admonished WM. saying:
votes out of fear,
thinks that Obama is a Muslim,
sees color first,
thinks that there are "good guys on both sides"

That, coupled with You saying:
"And there's not thing one you can do about it"

Just gives more weight to the Fact.
That you think,
ONLY your, POV is worthwhile.
And ANY OTHER POV is Clearly, ... ... ... ... ...

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/15/18 at 10:33:56

You're correct. My taint is resilient.
My Muppet induced taint hickeys didn't require medical attention.

You know you set yourself up for that.
I would have tagged anyone else.
Don't get butthurt
Or
If you do
Don't forget about my special butthurt cream.

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by Serowbot on 11/15/18 at 10:40:47

How we have devolved.

MAGA

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by T And T Garage on 11/15/18 at 10:58:31

6A497457554E4940270 wrote:

[quote author=584649484558435E2C0 link=1542094009/15#24 date=1542204168] And your ability to suckle this idiot's taint is beyond any reason.

How is, your, ability,
to suckle Berni Sanders’s
and Cenk Uygur’s , ‘taint’,
'coming', along ????

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
[/quote]

Not good apparently... When's the last time I posted something from TYT or Bernie?

Meanwhile, you cons are like lamprey on the underside of trump.. ;D

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by T And T Garage on 11/15/18 at 11:02:05

70536E4D4F54535A3D0 wrote:

[quote author=756B646568756E73010 link=1542094009/15#21 date=1542161432]And you're a paranoid righty that hates everything that's liberal no matter what (except all the benefits like SSI, Medicare, Cops & Firemen, the Interstate system, etc.), votes out of fear, thinks that Obama is a Muslim, sees color first, thinks that there are "good guys on both sides" and - refuses to acknowledge that it's not just your nation.

Just to be Sure, You, (the he/she called tt),
Do NOT believe their are,
"...good guys on both sides..."

No mn. There are no good white nationalists. There is no such thing as a "good nazi" or "good kkk member". Do you think there is??

because you Just admonished WM. saying:
votes out of fear,
thinks that Obama is a Muslim,
sees color first,
thinks that there are "good guys on both sides"

That, coupled with You saying:
"And there's not thing one you can do about it"

Just gives more weight to the Fact.
That you think,
ONLY your, POV is worthwhile.
And ANY OTHER POV is Clearly, ... ... ... ... ...
[/quote]

Read it like you want. I said it and I stand by it.

Now- how about those "good people" on the side of the white nationalists, hmm?

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/15/18 at 11:48:15

How fun
Lefties decry
Discrimination
Because they choose to ignore the original, and reasonable, complaint about
PREJUDICIAL discrimination.

Now, nationalism is
White nationalism.

How clever.

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by T And T Garage on 11/15/18 at 12:03:34

435C5A5D40477646764E5C501B290 wrote:

How fun
Lefties decry
Discrimination
Because they choose to ignore the original, and reasonable, complaint about
PREJUDICIAL discrimination.

Now, nationalism is
White nationalism.

No, let's be clear. I'm talking about the white nationalists, not simply 'nationalists'.

There is a distinction. The morons marching with torches in Charlottesville were white nationalists. The "crying nazi" cantwell was a white nationalist.

Sorry jog, there are no good white nationalists. There are no good nazis. There are no good kkk members. There are no good alt-righters.

How clever.

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/15/18 at 12:17:07

there are no good white nationalists. There are no good nazis. There are no good kkk members. There are no good alt-righters.

Pretend I said something Other than what I said.

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by T And T Garage on 11/15/18 at 12:33:02

5A454344595E6F5F6F57454902300 wrote:

there are no good white nationalists. There are no good nazis. There are no good kkk members. There are no good alt-righters.

Pretend I said something Other than what I said.

Why the hell would I do that?

Read and understand what I wrote.

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by MnSpring on 11/15/18 at 12:38:19

564847464B564D50220 wrote:

Now- how about those "good people" on the side of the white nationalists, hmm?

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by T And T Garage on 11/15/18 at 12:59:32

2D0E331012090E07600 wrote:

[quote author=564847464B564D50220 link=1542094009/30#32 date=1542308525]Now- how about those "good people" on the side of the white nationalists, hmm?

Why don't you, ~~explain~~ er Spin, to all of us here,
Why when you,
PRETEND, something else was said.
It would NOT be, LYING

Just as JOG said:
"Pretend I said something Other than what I said"
[/quote]

Here you go, genius:

white nationalist noun

: one of a group of militant whites who espouse white supremacy and advocate enforced racial segregation
… his vision for the community—an enclave where residents fly "racialist" banners, where they are able to import enough … white nationalists to take control of the town government …

nationalist noun
na·[ch8203]tion·[ch8203]al·[ch8203]ist | \[ch712]nash-n[ch601]-list, [ch712]na-sh[ch601]-n[ch601]-list\

1 : an advocate of or believer in nationalism
2 : a member of a political party or group advocating national independence or strong national government

www.merriam-webster.com

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by MnSpring on 11/15/18 at 13:18:08

7B656A6B667B607D0F0 wrote:

Here you go, genius:
white nationalist noun

That would be just one more,
SPINNING, AVOIDING, NON ANSWER,
In Not PC speak: LYING.

Again, just as JOG said:
"Pretend I said something Other than what I said"

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by T And T Garage on 11/15/18 at 13:25:29

587B4665677C7B72150 wrote:

[quote author=7B656A6B667B607D0F0 link=1542094009/30#38 date=1542315572] Here you go, genius:
white nationalist noun

That would be just one more,
SPINNING, AVOIDING, NON ANSWER,
In Not PC speak: LYING.

Again, just as JOG said:
"Pretend I said something Other than what I said"
[/quote]

Here you go mn - I think you missed this:

jog:
"Now, nationalism is
White nationalism."

You see, he's the one that began this, not me.

It's not my fault that you and he can't come to grips with there being a difference between nationalists and white nationalists.

Educate yourselves.

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by MnSpring on 11/15/18 at 13:42:28

786669686578637E0C0 wrote:

Here you go mn - I think you missed this:

Tell me, where, which part of, how,
"nationalism/White nationalism"
Is any part of this post: (Reply 21)
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1542094009/21#21

Again, total Spin/Lying.

And once again just as JOG said:
"Pretend I said something Other than what I said"

Title: Re: It is now clear Trump is a one Term prez.
Post by T And T Garage on 11/15/18 at 14:36:26

61427F5C5E45424B2C0 wrote:

[quote author=786669686578637E0C0 link=1542094009/30#40 date=1542317129]Here you go mn - I think you missed this: