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Message started by raydawg on 11/07/18 at 17:39:50

Title: I am dated......
Post by raydawg on 11/07/18 at 17:39:50

Mercy, life is passing me by it seems.

I shared I retired from Boeing earlier this year and went back to my old gig part time, building homes on the island, plumbing.
I was on a job today that had been under construction for 2 years.
I can’t say who owns it, but mercy, the money being spent boggles my mind.
This place is so high tech that you use your phone to turn on lights, features, etc....
I know my wife has that Alexis, or whatever it’s called, but this is a million times more than that....
The computer vault room looks like something of spaceship, I kid you not....
Man, and I still can’t figger out our “smart TV’s”
Oh well, I do have a pretty good grasp on the phrase, “keep it simple stupid”.....
I don’t think I will push my luck beyond that  ;D

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Post by MMRanch on 11/07/18 at 21:17:49

My Son taught me to use my smart phone --- sort-a (till he ran out of patience) .   :-[


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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/07/18 at 21:46:03

I don't own a cell phone

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Post by jcstokes on 11/08/18 at 01:24:17

I know a bit about smartphones, they have APP thingys, whatever they are.

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Post by raydawg on 11/08/18 at 08:25:01

I think the term is PED, or personal electronic device that you wear as a watch.....
This thing is talking the whole time to the "mother board" or central commander of AI, while in the house, etc.

It can read your blood pressure, heartbeat, location, EVERYTHING.....

The room of racks, a vault, holding the supporting equipment is honestly mind boggling.....
I can't help but think of Rod Serling asking me the question as I gaze upon this scene....."And everyone thought the show was Sci-Fi" with a giant grin upon his face......

The shear size of this house is just crazy.
A wall, like a butlers pantry, houses crystal drinking vessels (cups, etc.)
That is 40 feet long, by 15 feet high, with two sliding custom made ladders on tracks that allow you access to the higher shelving, WHICH, is all behind motored glass doors that move out of the way for you when you need to reach in and grab your favorite beer stein  :o

You guys, its just crazy.....
I better not say too much more.
The $$$$$ came from the medical field, as I am told  :o
And this is just one house of many.
One in Hawaii is suppose to be even more crazy, tho I can't imagine unless it is built inside a volcano  ;D

I'm telling you guys, that "city" I posted about here: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1541256621

Is real.

You already have big tech companies gobbling up land in the area.
Its going to happen period, with or without us.
When I saw where Boeing was going with robotics and automation based on AI and other computer sciences, you gotta believe the future is ripe with change.

The only question remaining in my mind is will we "invent" our master?  :-/

I know lots of you youngin's are more comfortable with this stuff, and I must appear as the old coot I am, but I just get this weird feeling that one of these days we will solve that mathematical formula of how all of this energy mass is holding together, and why.......
And man will discover within that answer, WE are NOT part of the calculations  :o  

I mean most of the "artificial" calamities on earth include the hand of man, one way or the other.....
He is LIMITED in his ability by mere physical limitations, and constrained by "time" itself, to achieve everlasting results of his endeavors.....
A "robot" will not have the same constraints, and if given enough AI, it might very well design its own immortality and dominance over any threat into its existence based NOT on emotions, or call it free will morality, NO......
It will be based on purely a equation that ensures the GREATEST success to why the program was developed to begin with.....

Anybody with me, or is it time for the white jacket with the cool straps and buckles in the back  ;D    

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Post by Papa Bear on 11/09/18 at 09:33:23


312E282F32350434043C2E22695B0 wrote:
I don't own a cell phone


Me neither

dawg ... slap a couple of Briggs crappers in the joint and call it a day
(don't try to figure it out - be like the desert fathers a couple of millennia ago) 8-)

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Post by raydawg on 11/09/18 at 09:37:02


383936373435323330010 wrote:
[quote author=312E282F32350434043C2E22695B0 link=1541641191/0#2 date=1541655963]I don't own a cell phone


Me neither
[/quote]

No wonder you never pick up when I call  ;D

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Post by Papa Bear on 11/09/18 at 09:40:55


66756D70756373140 wrote:
[quote author=383936373435323330010 link=1541641191/0#5 date=1541784803][quote author=312E282F32350434043C2E22695B0 link=1541641191/0#2 date=1541655963]I don't own a cell phone


Me neither
[/quote]

No wonder you never pick up when I call  ;D
[/quote]

My 2-way wrist radio is in for repairs (ala thingy Tracy)

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Post by Papa Bear on 11/09/18 at 09:42:12


3A3B34353637303132030 wrote:
[quote author=66756D70756373140 link=1541641191/0#6 date=1541785022][quote author=383936373435323330010 link=1541641191/0#5 date=1541784803][quote author=312E282F32350434043C2E22695B0 link=1541641191/0#2 date=1541655963]I don't own a cell phone


Me neither
[/quote]

No wonder you never pick up when I call  ;D
[/quote]

My 2-way wrist radio is in for repairs (ala thingy Tracy)[/quote] Geez, you can't say D ick ??!!  ( Censors be D amned)

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/09/18 at 10:01:09

I wonder if they even still sell card files and rolodexes.

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Post by Papa Bear on 11/09/18 at 10:40:04


5C4345425F5869596951434F04360 wrote:
I wonder if they even still sell card files and rolodexes.


There are hopefully some out there (like heirloom seeds) for when the high-tech quits teching

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Post by raydawg on 11/09/18 at 11:08:00


24252A2B28292E2F2C1D0 wrote:
[quote author=5C4345425F5869596951434F04360 link=1541641191/0#9 date=1541786469]I wonder if they even still sell card files and rolodexes.


There are hopefully some out there (like heirloom seeds) for when the high-tech quits teching
[/quote]

Oh my........

You bring up a great observation, question.
Who can fix, or repair, things.....
Its not so much the "thing" that needs repair, no, but the mindset of wanting to be capable of fixing "things" in your life, without having to depend on others....
Will we too, just become expendable, discarded to the heap of uselessness, in favor of new technology, also called Artificial Intelligence?  :-?

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Post by batman on 11/09/18 at 11:12:04

You should read the article in Popular science this month about  AI safety concerns ,there is a lot of people worried about AI ruining the future of humans .
        It will kill me to think that Arnold Schwarzenegger may be remembered as saying the three scariest words ever heard by humans,

                           "I'll be back"

                         

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Post by raydawg on 11/10/18 at 08:59:04


27243128242B717D450 wrote:
You should read the article in Popular science this month about  AI safety concerns ,there is a lot of people worried about AI ruining the future of humans .
        It will kill me to think that Arnold Schwarzenegger may be remembered as saying the three scariest words ever heard by humans,

                           "I'll be back"

                         


The world ain't flat.......C'mon, what is wrong with you!?!

Someday a man will stand on that moon son.....are you a idiot?

Machines doing the labor of many, better, faster, cheaper..... WHAT, they can't think, you fool!

Men are tethered to their own failures, because they lack the capacity to dream of "what if's"  ;D

The ONLY script, or formula, equation, that AI can NOT factor in is morality.....
And this very FACT, is also the downfall of man, himself   :(

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Post by batman on 11/10/18 at 09:46:58

The quote at the bottom of your reply "Sure I can be civil ,right after I destroy you" maybe the same logic AI applies to us some day. that's the point.

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Post by raydawg on 11/10/18 at 11:20:25


3B382D3438376D61590 wrote:
The quote at the bottom of your reply "Sure I can be civil ,right after I destroy you" maybe the same logic AI applies to us some day. that's the point.


A can agree with that possibility......
I borrowed that phrase from a current political leader, interpreting it in a manner that blind partisans might grasp it, however doubtful.....

Self promotion never ends well, as by its very nature, you script it from a foundation, that won't, can't, sustain it, itself.......
The only unknown is when, it will crumble upon itself  :-/  

Look at our society presently.
We have been on a path of so called awareness, and tolerance, of what....?
We call it enlightenment, and assign to it a HIGHER worth, wisdom, knowledge, which then allows us to set the course, agenda, because those of lessor intelligence lack the capacity....
In other words, we validate ourselves, our actions, to a greater cause.

However, its based upon a lie, of disingenuous ambitions.
Remember Huey Lewis, he had a hit song, which I believe examples mankind today, perfectly.....
The song was called: I want a new drug.
I ask, WHY do we need a new drug?
While don't we find out what ills us, and repair that, instead?

Do you seem my point?  

So, the question, or riddle, to AI is this: How does the "soul" of a person, factor in?  :o

Do we need to answer first the question, are each one of us "unique"?

You wanna start there?  :)  

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Post by Witchdoctor on 11/15/18 at 13:56:08


4F5056514C4B7A4A7A42505C17250 wrote:
I don't own a cell phone


Same here..  8-)

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/15/18 at 14:00:33

You're coming to the Luddite convention in Louisiana?

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Post by raydawg on 11/16/18 at 08:28:14


554A4C4B5651605060584A460D3F0 wrote:
You're coming to the Luddite convention in Louisiana?


Huh....????

Is this a meeting of a bunch of rotund chicks, with fat thighs?

If yes, you might pose the question in the Tall Table.....
Lots of blubber lovers appear to populate that board.

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/16/18 at 10:03:34

I figured a witchdoctor who had no cellphone would be comfortable at a meeting of Luddites, NOT Lardites, in the land of Voodoo.

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Post by Witchdoctor on 11/16/18 at 10:12:30

LOL.. I wont be attending any Luddite meetings. I don't have any problem with technological progress. I just refuse to knowingly and willfully let google or any company track my every move and add to the giant profile of information they have on almost every person on earth.
Phones have really f'ed people up socially and smart phones rewire your brain.

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Post by raydawg on 11/16/18 at 10:29:20


4B75687F7478737F68736E1C0 wrote:
LOL.. I wont be attending any Luddite meetings. I don't have any problem with technological progress. I just refuse to knowingly and willfully let google or any company track my every move and add to the giant profile of information they have on almost every person on earth.
Phones have really f'ed people up socially and smart phones rewire your brain.


You know what..... I can't find much to argue with on your basic premise....
Without getting this thread booted one level down, why does every issue have to be whittled down to a absolute, instead of shades of gray?

I will use guns as a example, they are blamed for something they lack the ability to do, unless a crazy person uses it as such.

Technology with phones have saved lives too, etc, a good thing.

Have you seen this thread I started?

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1542300206

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/16/18 at 17:12:31

If I actually needed a cellphone, I'd have one. I agree with the
Don't wanna cowbell around my neck
But that's not the whole reason for not having one.
I call myself a luddite because I don't understand how to use the blasted things. I totally appreciate what they can do. Unless I'm holding it.

Title: Re: I am dated......
Post by Witchdoctor on 11/24/18 at 15:01:48

Ive had a cellphone for a job.. required me to use it daily.

As for absolutes.. peoples minds are very polarized lol. Like robots. Even gray areas can be broken down into yes/no with some analysis.  

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Post by HAPPYDAN on 11/25/18 at 09:21:51

Well, around here they call me "Dinosaur Dan". I drive a 1996 Toyota standard shift pickup (250K miles, runs like a top), no cell phone or smart phone, don't do Facebook, text or tweet of whatever, still use an E6B for flight planning. I still have a landline I use for calls. My trail bike is a 1986 Honda CT110. Oh, and I just picked up my "Go To" gun - a Uberti replica 1858 Remington revolving rifle, since Washington seems to be on the verge of outlawing modern firearms (IMO). Sometimes, I think the old ways are the best.

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Post by raydawg on 11/25/18 at 13:37:15

Happy Dan.......
What will you do when the law requires all citizens to be implanted with a chip to assure identity?
Folks might think “no way” but think for one moment how such a move could “fix” so many of our “concerns”
No voter fraud, not here illegally, no need to carry money, so no need to rob someone.
Your medical records available to any healthcare provider with a simple scan.
Like a phone, you can not get “lost”
Oh, the “good” reason list is as long as our need to be taken care of.
It’s a easy sell.....watch.

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Post by batman on 11/25/18 at 19:53:53

Raydawg , An implanted chip, REALLY ?  Have you been reading George Orwell's  1984 again?  ...That would be an invasion of privacy most would not begin to endure.

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Post by raydawg on 11/26/18 at 12:20:03


292A3F262A257F734B0 wrote:
Raydawg , An implanted chip, REALLY ?  Have you been reading George Orwell's  1984 again?  ...That would be an invasion of privacy most would not begin to endure.


WHAT......man on the moon  :o

Yes, it’s coming, when you convince mankind it’s for their own good, this will be a easy sell to the frightened  ;)

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Post by verslagen1 on 11/26/18 at 12:46:16

I think a bar code tattoo it would be an easier sell.

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Post by Dave on 11/26/18 at 13:07:23


514255544B4640424916270 wrote:
I think a bar code tattoo it would be an easier sell.


The mark of the beast? :-?

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Post by verslagen1 on 11/26/18 at 15:26:35


665D5047565A41475C545946350 wrote:
[quote author=514255544B4640424916270 link=1541641191/15#28 date=1543265176]I think a bar code tattoo it would be an easier sell.


The mark of the beast? :-?[/quote]
No, it doesn't need to be on the breast, a shoulder will do.  

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Post by raydawg on 11/26/18 at 16:28:26


5F4C5B5A45484E4C4718290 wrote:
[quote author=665D5047565A41475C545946350 link=1541641191/15#29 date=1543266443][quote author=514255544B4640424916270 link=1541641191/15#28 date=1543265176]I think a bar code tattoo it would be an easier sell.


The mark of the beast? :-?[/quote]
No, it doesn't need to be on the breast, a shoulder will do.  [/quote]

Well if its the former.......
I volunteer to scan it, for free, in Braille   ;D

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Post by GOF on 11/26/18 at 17:31:05


585B4E575B540E023A0 wrote:
Raydawg , An implanted chip, REALLY ?  Have you been reading George Orwell's  1984 again?  ...That would be an invasion of privacy most would not begin to endure.


This has already started.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microchip_implant_(human)

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Post by raydawg on 11/26/18 at 17:53:37

Sure enuff.....

Can you imagine using your chip instead of cash, or credit, etc....
The gubbermint will KNOW exactly how much your earned, and what your TAXES will be.

No more tax cheats  ;D

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Post by GOF on 11/26/18 at 18:06:35

Imagine your surprise when you find out someone cloned your chip and charged up an extra 30k in earnings that you owe taxes on. Or the pain when someone whacks off your arm to steal you identity.

They gonna have to hold me down and force it on me.

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Post by raydawg on 11/26/18 at 19:10:40


757D74320 wrote:
Imagine your surprise when you find out someone cloned your chip and charged up an extra 30k in earnings that you owe taxes on. Or the pain when someone whacks off your arm to steal you identity.

They gonna have to hold me down and force it on me.


Won't compute.....

Eye scan will be incorporated into the chip.
Hold you down.....HA.
Look how the dealt with unwilling folks in WACO  ;D

Its coming, trust me.  ;D

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/26/18 at 19:16:35

Look how the dealt with unwilling folks in WACO.

You mean when they used the
Military
Against
American citizens?

You mean when they
Wanted David Koresh, who went to town
Every Week
But instead of waiting and taking Him on his way to town, they shot the compound all tofukk and killed bunches of people and then
Accidentally burned the place, where they had information on computers that would have been bad for the Big People?
Talk about posse comitatus some more.

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