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Message started by badwolf on 11/07/18 at 09:55:00

Title: Curtiss unveils its 'Zeus' electric motorcycles
Post by badwolf on 11/07/18 at 09:55:00

This looks like it's going to be a trend,

https://www.techspot.com/news/77293-curtiss-unveils-zeus-electric-motorbikes-capable-0-60.html

Call me a dino., but I LIKE the smell, sound and feel of a GAS engine!
I have rode a E-bike, and think it's fine for getting around for the casual shopper, student, or for doing errands. But for a serious bike rider it's nothing.
Same for a M/C rider. Charging stations at the KSL? I don't think so.
Can't get anywhere close to a 1,000 mile day, but the snowflakes couldn't handle that anyway. ( can't get that far from Mommy's cooking, and might get sweaty or dirty )

Title: Re: Curtiss unveils its 'Zeus' electric motorcycle
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/07/18 at 11:11:50

I understand and relate to everything you're saying
BUT
The changing attitudes and demographics could Be the Driving Force that creates the market for the Buzz Kill scooters that might appeal to the people who are coming of age.

Title: Re: Curtiss unveils its 'Zeus' electric motorcycle
Post by verslagen1 on 11/07/18 at 12:11:34

Quote:

With the updated versions of the Zeus prototype, Curtiss is looking to deliver a range of 280 miles, 145 foot-pounds of torque, and a 0 – 60 time of just 2.1 seconds, thanks to its 140Kw motor. That acceleration puts it close to Tesla’s $200,000 Roadster, which it says will be the “fastest production car ever,” boasting a 0 – 60 time of just 1.9 seconds.

As a commuter, that is 1 charge a week for me.
I would want a trunk rather than open space in the frame.
They could tone down the power for mileage, I'd go for it provided it didn't take a mint to purchase.

Title: Re: Curtiss unveils its 'Zeus' electric motorcycle
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/07/18 at 12:25:57

I'd Still want a big speaker belching out
BRAAHHH

Title: Re: Curtiss unveils its 'Zeus' electric motorcycle
Post by MMRanch on 11/07/18 at 15:07:42

Wow , 0 to 60 in 2.1 sec. Will the rear tire hold that much traction ? or Will the butt to seat connection hold-together for that kind of acceleration ?

::)

Title: Re: Curtiss unveils its 'Zeus' electric motorcycle
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 11/07/18 at 15:14:22

I look forward to affordable electric vehicles, cars and bikes. They've conquered range, now it's time to address and improve charge times. That will require transformative or disruptive technology.

That Curtis is a science project.

Title: Re: Curtiss unveils its 'Zeus' electric motorcycle
Post by GOF on 11/07/18 at 15:26:27

The infrastructure for electric vehicles is still lacking. Can't go to the corner station and refill your fuel in a couple minutes. Might be different if they standardize batteries and you just swap 'em. Like your grill gas. Until then they just aren't convenient for things like cross country travel. Will probably hit a small commuter market. But us old motorcycle riders probably won't swap over anytime soon. Possibly as a second bike. But price may be prohibitive of that.

Title: Re: Curtiss unveils its 'Zeus' electric motorcycle
Post by Dave on 11/07/18 at 17:14:03

444C45030 wrote:

Title: Re: Curtiss unveils its 'Zeus' electric motorcycle
Post by batman on 11/07/18 at 21:25:55

There is a couple of problems, the first being purchase price,( usually the difference between a gas /electric is enough to buy fuel for the gas version for a few years, the second battery longevity, and replacement /labor cost. third is resale price ( who would buy a bike who's battery pack is about to play out? Who will buy a new battery pack in order to sell a bike?) If your only charging station is home, then 280 miles puts you on a 140 mile leash. I'll pass!

Title: Re: Curtiss unveils its 'Zeus' electric motorcycle
Post by GOF on 11/08/18 at 08:37:09

7D464B5C4D415A5C474F425D2E0 wrote:

[quote author=444C45030 link=1541613300/0#6 date=1541633187]The infrastructure for electric vehicles is still lacking. Can't go to the corner station and refill your fuel in a couple minutes. Might be different if they standardize batteries and you just swap 'em.

When you buy a battery powered drill, you get two batteries and they are a snap-in to swap. If you could have one battery at home and the other one at the office....you could just swap as needed (or does that actually require 3 batteries?). Two would work as long as you had the needed down time on one end of the commute to/from work.

The Zeus aint' my style........
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Still makes them a commuter vehicle. Until you can go someplace else and get a fast recharge you are limited in where you can go.

Not my style either.

Title: Re: Curtiss unveils its 'Zeus' electric motorcycle
Post by GOF on 11/08/18 at 08:39:31

6261746D616E3438000 wrote:

280 under ideal conditions. You'll want to leave a healthy margin for reserve.

Title: Re: Curtiss unveils its 'Zeus' electric motorcycle
Post by verslagen1 on 11/08/18 at 09:26:24

They could provide a flexible solar panel that you could deploy while you were taking a break.
The question would be how much would you need and how fast would it charge.
Charging stations are now available at wally world.

Title: Re: Curtiss unveils its 'Zeus' electric motorcycle
Post by batman on 11/08/18 at 10:39:48

You mean a solar panel the size of a billboard ? Or a week long break? besides,we don't all live in sunny L.A. Does anyone know the voltage or the amperage needed to recharge one of these bikes? When charging do the lights dim in your house or does your electric bill double?

Title: Re: Curtiss unveils its 'Zeus' electric motorcycle
Post by GOF on 11/08/18 at 11:17:02

Charging stations are available lots of places. But they are not available everywhere. And they aren't, as far as I know, like filling your gas tank. Takes an extended time. Depending on battery, state of charge, charging system, and other things I am sure. According to Google a Nissan Leaf takes 4hrs to charge from 'empty' with the home charging system. Range of a leaf is said to be 151 miles. Even if commercial charging cuts the time in half and is available along your way would you want to stop for two hours every 150 miles? No, in order to be a viable replacement to gasoline electric vehicles will have to become as convenient and cost effective as fossil fueled vehicles. Not there yet. But one day maybe.

Title: Re: Curtiss unveils its 'Zeus' electric motorcycle
Post by batman on 11/08/18 at 17:23:18

I believe charging these cars /bikes will prove to be a no win ,just as fuel from corn is , the electric needed to charge these has to be changed from AC to DC current ,that alone suffers nearly a 25% loss (heat) in the process. where is that power coming from on a large scale ? Is your backyard full of solar panels? do you own a windmill? hydro power? ,Then you've gained nothing ,new power plants will have to be built, If you think that won't drive the cost of electricity up, or reduce pollution , your mistaken.

Title: Re: Curtiss unveils its 'Zeus' electric motorcycle
Post by mpescatori on 11/09/18 at 03:38:27

Charging stations are the next gold mine.

Times aren't quite ready yet but I can see it coming just under the horizon.

Buy yourselves some real estate 8not too much) and set up a small "charing station" with high-powered charging facilities.

Just like a gas station, only with more buzz and fewer smells... ;)