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Message started by MnSpring on 11/01/18 at 16:07:14

Title: BIG part of the problem.
Post by MnSpring on 11/01/18 at 16:07:14

Yesterday, in a small town, In a office where they, (office) bought candy to hand out to the, ’Trick or Treat’ers’.
Which as I was their, for moral support, watching two other groups of people, signing a bunch of, un needed CYA papers, for the Attorneys. I had time to observe the Kiddies and some parents in Halloween Costumes.

The Kids, age, 5 to 12 ? (only 2 came in being carried by their mothers) The Parents, 22-27 ?

In 3/4 of a hour, about 75 - 95 Kids/Parents.

Observed:
LESS THAN 2 %, of the Kids & Parents, said, ’Thank You’.
LESS THAN 4% of the kids said, ’Trick or Treat’.
(Those parents and Kids, don’t even have a clue about what, Trick, or, Treat, means)

Their we go, a DIRECT result of the:
UL, (Don’t have to),
Socialistic, (you have candy I don’t GIMMMMMMMIE),
Progressives, (I’m so far above you, I am so much smarter than you, I am gracing you, with my presence).
teaching.

Lucky I am 65.
The he/ she called tt, is gonna be saying in 20+ years,
Damm, Should have Listened to them guys !

Title: Re: BIG part of the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 11/01/18 at 16:17:04

785B6645475C5B52350 wrote:

"The he/ she called tt, is gonna be saying in 20+ years,"

Look at you. Pathetic.

You think anyone takes you seriously?

If they do - that's their (proper use of that word, btw) problem.

Title: Re: BIG part of the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/01/18 at 17:18:14

The POINT is
Children are not being taught respect and appreciation.
Their parents are not any better.

Title: Re: BIG part of the problem.
Post by Eegore on 11/01/18 at 20:29:26

What were the percentages in decades prior?

Title: Re: BIG part of the problem.
Post by eau de sauvage on 11/01/18 at 22:45:22

@Mn This is how it starts. Next thing you'll be down at the kiddies playground watching with binoculars from your car. Copper pulls up and asks you what you're doing and you tell him you're checking out how many kiddies put their ice cream wrapper in the bin.

@JoG The POINT is
Children are no being taught respect and appreciation.
Their parents are not any better.

The point? There is no frikken point (other than Mn is outing himself as a potential rock spider), the president of the United States doesn't even respect the office of the President. Openly boasts about using his position of power to sexually assault women.

Title: Re: BIG part of the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/01/18 at 22:59:39

LIAR

Title: Re: BIG part of the problem.
Post by eau de sauvage on 11/01/18 at 23:11:30

514E484F52556454645C4E42093B0 wrote:

LIAR

What the fcuk are are you on about now. Or is that just a random battle cry.

Title: Re: BIG part of the problem.
Post by Eegore on 11/02/18 at 05:41:38

I've not heard JoG say it but there are people that say the recording of Trump talking about grabbing p ussy is fabricated. Maybe that's the lie?

Title: Re: BIG part of the problem.
Post by WebsterMark on 11/02/18 at 06:38:25

I think Trump has acknowledged that’s him talking.

My point is using this for a charge of sexual abuse. When women basically open themselves up to you, it’s hardly abuse. No doubt after the fact some women are embarrassed by their actions but a change of mind after the fact by a consenting adult doesn’t turn a consensual activity into assault.

Title: Re: BIG part of the problem.
Post by MnSpring on 11/02/18 at 08:08:07

0020222A3720450 wrote:

What were the percentages in decades prior?

Don’t know.
Never observed Halloween from that vantage point before.
Do know, in a small town, (Very Similar), 75 miles away where I grew up, ‘decades’ ago when I was ’trick or treating’, everybody I encountered, said, ‘Please”, and, ’Thank-You”.

(That is, ‘Observed Reality’, which a he/she called tt believes is NOT real)

Yet I believe things have changed greatly in, just 2, ‘decades’.

Because of confusing, ‘Politeness’, with, ‘Political Correctness’.

(This is for people that don’t understand a concept)

If one calls a, Lying Thief,
‘’a person who misappropriated funds, and adjusted the truth'
That will, Change, the fact that that person is a,
Lying Thief, HOW ?

If one calls a, Lying Thief,
‘’a person who misappropriated funds, and adjusted the truth'
That will, rehabilitate that person ?
HOW ?

If one calls a, Lying Thief,
‘’a person who misappropriated funds, and adjusted the truth'
That will change that persons life,
so they can be the A.G. of the USA,
from 09 to 15. (Oh wait, That DID happen)

Title: Re: BIG part of the problem.
Post by Eegore on 11/02/18 at 11:11:01

How is calling one a "Lying Thief" going to rehabilitate them?

I think I understand what you are saying but I don't think someone who is compulsively dishonest and prone to acquiring items that are not lawfully theirs will discontinue the practice based off of more direct adjectives describing their behaviors.

Standard rehabilitation programs tend to teach that labels, labeling, and descriptive actions are not pertinent, as actions are the defining end to personal growth. For instance someone can call you a "drunk" all day, you can call yourself "sober" all day and none of that matters, it's what you do day to day that defines if you are actually abusing alcohol.

So I am not sure how "Lying Thief" will apply to rehabilitation as I have witnessed it.

Title: Re: BIG part of the problem.
Post by eau de sauvage on 11/02/18 at 14:00:12

7D5D5F574A5D380 wrote:

I've not heard JoG say it but there are people that say the recording of Trump talking about grabbing p ussy is fabricated. Maybe that's the lie?

There are people? You've gotta be sh!tting me. There are people? That's an argument. I know you don't mean to but you sound like Donald Trump talking like that. Why talk JoG's sh!t for him? Let him talk his own crap.

Title: Re: BIG part of the problem.
Post by eau de sauvage on 11/02/18 at 14:05:34

When women basically open themselves up to you, it’s hardly abuse.

Yeah you've said that before. It's quite clear that he's using his power of position to intimidate.

http://time.com/5047771/donald-trump-comments-billy-bush/

https://theweek.com/articles/655770/61-things-donald-trump-said-about-women

Title: Re: BIG part of the problem.
Post by verslagen1 on 11/02/18 at 14:25:13

And it's quite clear that Melania's using her power to intimidate too.

Title: Re: BIG part of the problem.
Post by MnSpring on 11/02/18 at 14:31:43

09292B233E294C0 wrote:

How is calling one a "Lying Thief" going to rehabilitate them?

How is calling one, ’a person who misappropriated funds, and adjusted the truth', going to rehabilitate them?

As you say:
"rehabilitation programs tend to teach that labels, labeling, and descriptive actions are not pertinent, as actions are the defining end to personal growth"

Again, if the actions, are the actions of a, Lying Thief, exactaly how, calling that person: ‘someone who misappropriated funds, and adjusted the truth'.
Change, the fact that that person is a, Lying Thief.

Well, let's all be, Politically Correct, (Or Polite as H.R.C. says), and call someone, "You just are a person who misappropriated funds, and adjusted the truth", .
That way they will feel much better about themselves.

Not changing their ways,
they will still be a, Lying Thief,
but they will 'feel' better.

Title: Re: BIG part of the problem.
Post by Eegore on 11/02/18 at 14:42:44

"Again, if the actions, are the actions of a, Lying Thief, exactaly how, calling that person: ‘someone who misappropriated funds, and adjusted the truth'.
Change, the fact that that person is a, Lying Thief."

No the facts remain the same no matter what they are called, which is part of a standard rehabilitation program. Labels mean nothing. All labels, every one positive or negative.

"That way they will feel much better about themselves."

I see what you mean however I am not familiar with rehabilitation programs that utilize this logic. How you feel is a product of your actions, follow the program and let the results happen, versus doing things to feel better. Typically dishonest people acquiring items that are not lawfully theirs are not interested in other people's opinions, feelings or the consequences of their actions so name calling is typically low on their list of priorities.

I can see where P.C. labeling makes other people feel better, but not the thief.

Title: Re: BIG part of the problem.
Post by Eegore on 11/02/18 at 14:45:03

"There are people? You've gotta be sh!tting me. There are people? That's an argument"

I know of about 12 or 15 personally, I can get more information if you want, I didn't think more specifics would be needed as I was guessing.

Title: Re: BIG part of the problem.
Post by MnSpring on 11/02/18 at 15:27:50

1131333B2631540 wrote:

"... dishonest people acquiring items that are not lawfully theirs ..."

Would those words,
mean the same thing as,
‘Lying Thief’ ?

Title: Re: BIG part of the problem.
Post by MnSpring on 11/02/18 at 15:53:09

50425655424446230 wrote:

The point? There is no frikken point (other than Mn is outing himself as a potential rock spider)

Who are you referring to when you said:
eau de sauvage wrote on Oct 29th, 2018, 1:11am:
Sorry to burst your Rainbow Unicorn Cocaine bubble,

Who's 'bubble' are you, 'bursting' ?

I would say, it most certainly sounds like,
YOU, are saying: (adding the latest)
"A delusional queer pedophile drug addict"

I wonder what a Moderator would think, if a, 'conservative', member would call a, 'liberal' member such a thing ?

Title: Re: BIG part of the problem.
Post by Eegore on 11/02/18 at 20:32:13

"Would those words,
mean the same thing as,
‘Lying Thief’ ?"

Yes.

None of them would be used as a functional tool in any rehabilitation program that I am aware of. Again due mostly to the fact that decades of successful rehabilitation programming has indicated that labels, structure of labeling and adjective based personal description is not an effective tool, and also because most Lying Thiefs are sociopathic in nature creating a natural barrier against their emotional state and others, including opinions.

I am no expert on this matter however and there may be rehabilitation programs that utilize descriptive based therapy.