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Message started by eau de sauvage on 10/20/18 at 04:46:04

Title: Is Wentworth bye election relevant to the GOP
Post by eau de sauvage on 10/20/18 at 04:46:04

Obviously not directly, but the Liberals under Malcolm Turnbull closely aligned themselves with some of the policies of Trump. Trump in one of his first official phone calls to Turnbull in early 2017 did a 'mr angry' routine yet Turnbull still sucked all the sweat off Trump's salty balls anyway.

Well Turnbull got rolled by his own party and now in the bye election that resulted, the seat has changed hands. Wentworth was possibly the safest of Liberal seats, which is what you'd expect if it's the PM's. This wasn't an ordinary protest vote, as the Govt, only had a majority of one.

We now have a minority govt and a disaster for the politics of greed and government for the wealthy. The libs also believe the wealthy need more tax cuts.

After two years and in spite of endless spin, we may perhaps be seeing a turning of the tide and a repudiation of the ugliness that Trump has unleashed.

Or maybe not.

Title: Re: Is Wentworth bye election relevant to the GOP
Post by MnSpring on 10/20/18 at 07:10:58

So exactly how does this melodrama,
In a Monarchy,
where the people living their,
are subjects.

Affect a Free Country,
where the leader is elected,
by Citizens.

Title: Re: Is Wentworth bye election relevant to the GOP
Post by Serowbot on 10/20/18 at 08:06:45

05261B383A21262F480 wrote:

So exactly how does this melodrama,
In a Monarchy,
where the people living their,
are subjects.

Affect a Free Country,
where the leader is elected,
by Citizens.

Oh, brother... ::) ::) ::)

Careful eau,... the queen may order your head on a platter... ::)

Title: Re: Is Wentworth bye election relevant to the GOP
Post by raydawg on 10/20/18 at 08:24:38

The guy asked a question, with clarification, to the original post.....
And you can only add your drive-by one liner, again?

When will you join up and act like a adult you request in others?

Maybe its time Mysterious John looks into how disruptive folks are, that he allows moderating privileges, burdens his site with negativity ....

Ya know, some people just can't be cops, their bias taints their judgement, and actions, to a point of of risk, and counter-production, to what they were tasked to do in the first place :-?

Title: Re: Is Wentworth bye election relevant to the GOP
Post by eau de sauvage on 10/20/18 at 13:10:17

So exactly how does this melodrama

I already answered that. Let me say again, I asked the question is Australia's repudiation of the policies of Trump, namely tax cuts for the wealthy, climate inaction and kowtowing to dictators, perhaps a bellwether for what is to come in the US mid terms. Especially seeing as Trump saw Brexit in the same way, namely a sign that the US was ready for Trump, or at least Bannon did.

And what do you mean exactly by 'free country'?

Title: Re: Is Wentworth bye election relevant to the GOP
Post by raydawg on 10/20/18 at 13:31:04

Wait a couple weeks, then we will see the "facts" based of reality, not projection, assumptions, summations, based on opinions of others with a bias, or other mitigating circumstances.

Not sure how you even equate Trump's policies of "america first" toward your own countries beliefs, and behaviors.....

His reasoning can easily be equated with isolationist, and I am not sure is its even possible, given today's "global marketing" that has lots of $$$$$ invested by LOTS of Americans.
I think the key is understanding he is wanting to return our domestic policies to OUR benefit "first".....
Which still means others can be second, etc, NOT, abandoned or forgotten.
It is NOT a absolute, not possible, even tho some extremely partisan folk will try and present it as so..... ;D

Are you not in control, of your OWN DESTINY, speaking to your own countries welfare?

Title: Re: Is Wentworth bye election relevant to the GOP
Post by eau de sauvage on 10/20/18 at 14:06:53

What exactly do you think we are going to 'see' in a couple of weeks?

Title: Re: Is Wentworth bye election relevant to the GOP
Post by raydawg on 10/20/18 at 14:20:53

Pretty much what we see today....
Little will change.
Most folks, well let’s say the vast unspoken or counted, require only a good economy to be satisfied, pretty simple.
If it’s good, they won’t demand change.
If it’s bad, they will.
You got pockets of zealous folks in both sides, driven to the cliffs like lemmings.
They don’t often bring about change.
If it’s right and good, you needn’t market it under a miracle cure...
It will sell itself.
Life goes on.
Always has, always will.....
The figuring out is where to invest your own happiness, not forfeit it to another to decide for you.

You sorry you asked? ;D

Title: Re: Is Wentworth bye election relevant to the GOP
Post by eau de sauvage on 10/20/18 at 15:30:29

Little will change.

Well little will change for you, I already knew that, but do you think then that the house won't change hands?

Also the economy has been on an upward trend the entire time of Obama's tenure. But the Democrats lost, mainly due to the electoral college, (see my sig below)

Title: Re: Is Wentworth bye election relevant to the GOP
Post by T And T Garage on 10/20/18 at 15:50:30

4B58405D584E5E390 wrote:

Well ray, you don't vote, so no - nothing will change for you.

It's too bad that people give their lives for our freedoms and so many give them the finger by not voting...

Title: Re: Is Wentworth bye election relevant to the GOP
Post by raydawg on 10/20/18 at 17:08:26

584A5E5D4A4C4E2B0 wrote:

I think it might, however, it will have little effect.
Either way, not enough seats will change to give any party a super majority.
It will stay pretty much as it is now, nothing more than a bully pulpit for folks to spout off nonsense that won’t move society forward as a whole.
They have enjoyed even lower approval numbers than Trump, and that was way before Trump even got a hard on 8-)

The senate I see the republicans gaining a few, but again, won’t make any difference.
2020 will answer just how much the folks really want change, getting rid of the so called swamp.
It’s just a continuation of what spawned the Tea Party energy, except instead of just effecting the Republicans, it has moved into the Democrats as well.
You have that party splitting up from the FDR/JFK type, blue collar, working middle class, to a new socialist bent that has disenfranchised many folks.
I find myself in that group.
Those folks, and the Trumpers, and old guard republicans, split that party, might unite in a whole new force to be reckoned with???
Not to even mention that most of the incumbents of both parties are just too darn old, so that and death will create new blood into the system as well.
Where it all ends, who knows....

Most of it is strictly for are own entertainment, the power that really dictates how the world turns will stay the same, they will never willingly allow that power to be decided by a democracy.

As to Obama, yeah, he inherited a load of crap, however, according to your testimony he was righting the ship, so it seems you beech about Trump solely based on his persona, for look, that SAME economy is trucking along just fine under his stewartmanship :D

My take on Obama’s was he abandoned what he represented/campaigned on, as the Pelosi/Clinton powers of the party told him what he was going to do...
I believe that is why he had historical loses in his very first midterm, and went downhill hill from there....
Folks really wanted him to succeed on what he CAMPAIGNED on, NOT what the DNC told him to do, or else....

And that’s my take, strictly my perspective and opinion.
If any need to call me names, be my guest, I care not one twit what idiots mutter to themselves ;D

Title: Re: Is Wentworth bye election relevant to the GOP
Post by eau de sauvage on 10/20/18 at 19:54:57

your testimony he was righting the ship, so it seems you beech about Trump solely based on his persona, for look, that SAME economy is trucking along just fine under his stewartmanship

Two things, 1. What testimony are you referring to, or are you trying to introduce some big words into your vocabulary. If so I applaud you for the effort but a dictionary will assist you in using them correctly. 2. Exactly he did not damage the economy therefore demeaning the office of the president and empowering some of the most ruthless dictators in the world while at the same time giving the green light to Nazis and misogynists was completely unnecessary.

All explained here... https://tinyurl.com/trumps-modus-operandi