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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> Proud Of Yourselves? /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1539829621 Message started by T And T Garage on 10/17/18 at 19:27:01 |
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Title: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by T And T Garage on 10/17/18 at 19:27:01 So, is this cool with you conservatives? http://www.rawstory.com/2018/10/will-kill-viral-video-appears-show-proud-boys-founder-calling-trump-supporters-commit-violence/ “If you’re wearing a MAGA hat and some guy with a slightly punk demeanor says, ‘Hey, are you … pro-Trump?’ choke him. Trust your instincts.” “Don’t listen to what he has to say, choke him.” “Can you call for violence generally? ‘Cause I am.” “Fighting solves everything. We need more violence from the Trump people.” “Trump supporters: Choke a motherf#cker. Choke a b!tch. Choke a tranny. Get your fingers around the windpipe.” Tell us all again how the lefties are more violent.... |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/17/18 at 21:36:42 A lefty wrote it |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by Eegore on 10/18/18 at 05:17:56 Trump supporters are not violent. Anything violent from a Trump supporter is conspiracy. That sounds accurate to me. No way on single Trump supporter anywhere, ever, would agree to violence against others right?\ Why won't anyone accept that political affiliation doesn't absolve one from criminal behavior. Everyone is capable. |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by T And T Garage on 10/18/18 at 05:32:42 66797F7865625363536B79753E0C0 wrote:
Sorry jog - there was nothing written... this was all on video. Care to try again? |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by WebsterMark on 10/18/18 at 05:47:45 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHM73eJCa7k "This is for healthcare" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4oKjUNUF9s 9/11 widow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoCyiQeHfZg beaten for who he voted for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBYdxagqUyQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9yaJOrymtU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxoL8tHSa7g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQmbn7ndvZQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACvknqH1tfU I could go on and on. Seriously, there are a lot of areas worth arguing over but whose more violent isn't one of them. You'll lose by a mile. I could go on and on. |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by T And T Garage on 10/18/18 at 06:03:31 605255444352457A56455C370 wrote:
Turn for turn, there is another right winger doing far worse. I can go on all day too... but you know, that's not the point here mark. I find it sad that you don't immediately disown the proud boys. Instead, you point to other violence from idiots on the left that I do not support. Are you a "there are good people on both sides" kind of person? Not me. I disavow them first, and then counter your claims of what you think is the "violent left". So I guess I have to ask, when it comes down to it, are you cool with the nazis, the kkk, the white nationalists and these proud boys being in your party? Yeah, the left may have antifa, but that's pretty much it - and time after time, I've said I support anti-fascism, but not the violence that sometimes follows their protests. |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by WebsterMark on 10/18/18 at 06:55:22 Yea, I ain't gonna play this useless game with you today. You're still butthurt over Pochontas; dumb move and looking for a way to save face. |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by MnSpring on 10/18/18 at 07:26:22 726C63626F726974060 wrote:
Look at the FACTS, which are NOT, presented. “…video that appears to show…” “…McInnes appears to make some…” “…It is unclear, due to the video’s editing…” Of course it was edited and posted by Vic Berger, A Self Admitted UL. Some quotes from his, ’sterling’, editing career. “…In the wake of Berger’s transition into video editing…” “…Editing offers a rewarding palette, and can drastically effect tone, pacing and even narrative …” “…You have all this footage, and then you can change a storyline or make stuff up as you go, just through the editing…” "...Tell us all again how the lefties are more violent ..." Perhaps that should be: 'Tell us all again how the lefties are more devious, and LIE by omission of FACT' What did Paul Harvey always say ? |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by T And T Garage on 10/18/18 at 08:05:18 053730212637201F332039520 wrote:
Wow - really? Something as easy as denouncing the kkk, the nazis, the white nationalists and the proud boys "isn't worth your time"? Well mark, that's more than sad. I honestly never expected you to not denounce them. SMH |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by T And T Garage on 10/18/18 at 08:06:47 694A7754564D4A43240 wrote:
Look at the FACTS, which are NOT, presented. “…video that appears to show…” “…McInnes appears to make some…” “…It is unclear, due to the video’s editing…” Of course it was edited and posted by Vic Berger, A Self Admitted UL. Some quotes from his, ’sterling’, editing career. “…In the wake of Berger’s transition into video editing…” “…Editing offers a rewarding palette, and can drastically effect tone, pacing and even narrative …” “…You have all this footage, and then you can change a storyline or make stuff up as you go, just through the editing…” "...Tell us all again how the lefties are more violent ..." Perhaps that should be: 'Tell us all again how the lefties are more devious, and LIE by omission of FACT' What did Paul Harvey always say ? [/quote] Did you watch the videos? Reference my post above to mark. Why not just disavow the proud boys? Are you a supporter of them? |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by WebsterMark on 10/18/18 at 09:14:17 726C63626F726974060 wrote:
Wow - really? Something as easy as denouncing the kkk, the nazis, the white nationalists and the proud boys "isn't worth your time"? Well mark, that's more than sad. I honestly never expected you to not denounce them. SMH[/quote] oh shut up. no one supports those groups and you know it. the only one giving those people power are lefties who trot them out every election. Big f'ing woop..... couple of wachos put a R next to their name and you act like they're part of the club. They're not. They're nothing. |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by LostArtist on 10/18/18 at 09:32:26 5B696E7F78697E416D7E670C0 wrote:
Wow - really? Something as easy as denouncing the kkk, the nazis, the white nationalists and the proud boys "isn't worth your time"? Well mark, that's more than sad. I honestly never expected you to not denounce them. SMH[/quote] oh shut up. no one supports those groups and you know it. the only one giving those people power are lefties who trot them out every election. Big f'ing woop..... couple of wachos put a R next to their name and you act like they're part of the club. They're not. They're nothing.[/quote] and yet, the put an "R" next to their name, not a "D" |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by Serowbot on 10/18/18 at 09:38:03 Someday, one of us Lefties will get so mad, we'll drive a car into a crowd of Trump peace protesters... Oh right,... there's no such thing as a Trump peace protester... Oh yeah,... and someone already did drive into a crowd... Did Trump pay his legal fees?... like he promised?...:-/ |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by T And T Garage on 10/18/18 at 09:49:40 112324353223340B27342D460 wrote:
Really? That's the end of that? Well, then why is it you label every single BLM and antifa outbreak as "typical of the left"? So, which is it mark? Are you going to "drop it" when I give the same response to your accusations? oh shut up. no one supports those groups and you know it. the only one giving those people power are righties who trot them out every election. Big f'ing woop..... couple of wachos put a D next to their name and you act like they're part of the club. They're not. They're nothing. Easy as that, huh? |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by Serowbot on 10/18/18 at 09:55:47 Melania Trump Look-Alike Who Starred in Controversial T.I. Video Says She's Been Getting Death Threats https://www.yahoo.com/news/melania-trump-look-alike-starred-175921828.html Welcome to Saudi America... :-? |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by WebsterMark on 10/18/18 at 10:00:41 4F594E534B5E53483C0 wrote:
No, you only shoot up baseball fields full of Republican Congressmen. |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by LostArtist on 10/18/18 at 10:06:56 6B595E4F48594E715D4E573C0 wrote:
No, you only shoot up baseball fields full of Republican Congressmen. [/quote] and you only shoot up Senator events killing anyone in your way... |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by WebsterMark on 10/18/18 at 10:21:31 and you only shoot up Senator events killing anyone in your way... English please. |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by LostArtist on 10/18/18 at 11:19:43 6C5E59484F5E49765A49503B0 wrote:
Target on Gabby Gifford |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by T And T Garage on 10/18/18 at 11:45:48 Stuff like this keeps happening, and I see zero from the right condemning it. http://www.mediamatters.org/video/2018/10/16/proud-boys-founder-gavin-mcinnes-republicans-you-need-us-foot-soldiers/221708 The right's own CRTV (actually a pretty funny (unintentionally) you tube channel) carried ths: "At the very least, people of the right, let us scum in. You need us foot soldiers. You need us disgusting rude jerks because outside of the swears and the drugs and the violence, quite a list actually, outside of all the things you disagree with, we have a lot in common. What we have in common is we both want America to prosper. We both want Trump to do well." What's a sane person to think? |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by T And T Garage on 10/18/18 at 12:00:08 And it's not getting any better. Nine members of the far-right Proud Boys group and three protesters are facing riot and assault charges after a street brawl between them Friday night in New York. The fight wasn’t a random clash, though: The Proud Boys were in Manhattan thanks to an invite from the Metropolitan Republican Club. In a speech at the club, which was vandalized before the event, Proud Boys leader Gavin McInnes waved a sword at anti-fascist protesters and celebrated the assassination of a socialist Japanese politician. McInnes, a Vice co-founder who left the company in 2008, dressed up as the Japanese assassin who killed the politician, complete with glasses that made his eyes into a racist caricature of a Japanese person’s eyes. It was a bizarre event to host at the GOP’s Manhattan clubhouse, but the Metropolitan Republican Club defended McInnes and the Proud Boys after the fight. In a statement released Sunday, the club said McInnes’ speech “was certainly not inciting violence.” Representatives Mario Diaz-Balart and Devin Nunes have posed for pictures with Proud Boys on the campaign trail. Fox News anchor Tucker Carlson posed in a Fox green room with two Proud Boys and Republican operative Roger Stone earlier this year. |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by WebsterMark on 10/18/18 at 12:10:06 5774686F5A696F72686F1B0 wrote:
Target on Gabby Gifford[/quote] oh geez...... s----t----r----e----t----c----h |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by LostArtist on 10/18/18 at 12:39:57 063433222534231C30233A510 wrote:
Target on Gabby Gifford[/quote] oh geez...... s----t----r----e----t----c----h[/quote] crazy is crazy |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by WebsterMark on 10/18/18 at 13:14:22 The guy who shot up the baseball field was yelling "This is for healthcare...." That's a political motivation, perhaps driven by the insane protestors of the left who drove him to violence and who will drive more to violence in the coming weeks. The guy who shot Gabby was just a nut. You nuts on the left tried to pin it on an typical poster by Sarah Palin which by today's standards is a cartoon! You're chasing politicians out of restaurants, confronting them at their homes.... |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by LostArtist on 10/18/18 at 14:15:51 4F7D7A6B6C7D6A55796A73180 wrote:
yelling "This is for healthcare...." I"m going to need a source for that. and your ascribing motivations to dead people so we'll never really know his motivation, as much as you'd like to think you do. Both shooters lives were falling apart and they lashed out in an insane violent way. you're using it to justify your own confirmation bias against the left. as for Giffords shooter: " there was a "disjointed theme that runs through Loughner's writings", which was a "distrust for and dislike of the government."" and "expressed a longstanding dislike for Gabrielle Giffords. Tierney recalled that Loughner had often said that women should not hold positions of power." sounds pretty conservative and libertarian to me.... even if he was crazy, so to say that he had NO political motivations, well, that's not accurate is it? listen, I grew up in the 90s, when jock frat boy bullies made fun of anyone different and beat up homosexuals for fun, when "anti-government" types blew up Oklahoma City, the violence I've seen with my own eyes, has been conservative traditionalists putting their ideology over caring for people, and during the last 8 years on conservative radio where they ratcheted up the extremist rhetoric for ratings again and again... sure the left might be getting a bit more hyperbolic, but they are just matching the rhetoric of the right when Obama was in office. meanwhile, conservatives have over 300 years of violence that I can pick from, from sicking dogs and firehoses on nonviolent protestors during the Civil Rights movement, to the cops shooting various unarmed minorities, to the lynchings in the Jim Crow era, and back throughout slavery and Native American issues, and so forth, and then you'll go over seas and start pointing to Stalin, Mao, and Hitler, etc.... so we can do this all day, every day, all year, all decade long if you want. or you can accept that there is violent tendencies by some on both sides and all of that can and should be called out and removed from politics, whether it's anitifa or the Proud Boys and we can move on, but your insistence on claiming that the left is so much more violent than the right is not helping us get along any better, but it seems you'd rather win than actually discuss the issues in a civil way so you can let it go and we can all assume that everyone here denounces violence from our respective sides and we can give each other the benefit of the doubt that neither of us want violence towards the other side or you can go on pretending that I hate you and want to do violence just because I'm slightly liberal... |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/21/18 at 09:18:04 when "anti-government" types blew up Oklahoma City, the violenc So we were told. Kind of a Huhh moment, watching the bomb squad hauling unexploded bombs out. Odd innitt, smaller column nearer the truck stood, larger, further away, failed. The story of Terry Yeakey, cop of the year, needs to be studied. His widow has a story, too. |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by Eegore on 10/22/18 at 05:41:19 "Odd innitt, smaller column nearer the truck stood, larger, further away, failed." Density and surface space. It was looked into years ago. This sort of thing happens all the time, just look at the hurricane photos. Physics isn't just small goes before big. |
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Title: Re: Proud Of Yourselves? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/22/18 at 10:12:02 Yeah,it was looked into. A retired General who was in charge of weapons development looked at it. He said it was blown up from inside. Take all the information. Read up on Terry Yeakey. There was a child care center. I'm supposed to believe the bombs removed from inside the building were just stored there? |
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