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Message started by T And T Garage on 10/15/18 at 12:10:32

Title: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by T And T Garage on 10/15/18 at 12:10:32

This is pretty much trump's view on what's going on with Jamal Khashoggi - or rather, what's happened with him.

Not to worry, trump himself said that there's no way he'd jeopardize a $150 billion potential spend to investigate one lousy journalist.

Our president has now said to the world that arms deals are far, far more important than butchered journalists.

Get your head around that one trump lovers.

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by MnSpring on 10/15/18 at 12:26:17

So then.

Giving a pallet load of greenbacks, to a Country that want’s to KILL  Americans is good ?
And having American citizens,  Tortured and then KILLED, is good ?


(Forgot, as long as the, ‘wanna-be King’ did it, it is)

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by T And T Garage on 10/15/18 at 13:36:56


1C3F022123383F36510 wrote:
So then.

Giving a pallet load of greenbacks, to a Country that want’s to KILL  Americans is good ?
And having American citizens,  Tortured and then KILLED, is good ?


(Forgot, as long as the, ‘wanna-be King’ did it, it is)


Not at all the same thing mn.  You're whole "Obama gave Iran billions is a red herring.  It was due them - it wasn't ours to hold.  But then again, you believe everything you hear on fox "news" so...

In this current situation, our president is putting arms deals ahead of innocent people getting killed by a foreign government.  This reporter was a permanent resident of the US, yet trump does not care.

If you're cool with that, just say so.  No reason for any whataboutism.

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by oldNslow on 10/15/18 at 13:38:23

Little while ago I heard on my car radio that according to cnn the Saudis just said that it was an accident. The guy was killed "inadvertently" during an interrogation. I don't really believe that, but, like I said in the thread about this guy that seems to have disappeared,  I still don't care.

That doesn't mean I want ALL journalists dead.I'm talking specifically about this one guy. He got himself crosswise of some very not nice people and thought he was well known enough to be immune from such nastiness. Mistake.


Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by T And T Garage on 10/15/18 at 13:53:24


66585955475B5A340 wrote:
Little while ago I heard on my car radio that according to cnn the Saudis just said that it was an accident. The guy was killed "inadvertently" during an interrogation. I don't really believe that, but, like I said in the thread about this guy that seems to have disappeared,  I still don't care.

That doesn't mean I want ALL journalists dead.I'm talking specifically about this one guy. He got himself crosswise of some very not nice people and thought he was well known enough to be immune from such nastiness. Mistake.


Wow... such compassion...

I honestly don't know how to respond to that.

What a terrible thing to say about someone.

Maybe you'd feel different if you had a loved one in harm's way.  This guy knowingly put his life on the line to report.

Seriously old, sleep well with that on your conscience....

SMH

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by WebsterMark on 10/15/18 at 14:04:14

Wow... such compassion...

I honestly don't know how to respond to that.

What a terrible thing to say about someone


....says the guy who didn't give a crap that a man's life and reputation was being destroyed as revenge for a political move he had nothing to do with.....

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by WebsterMark on 10/15/18 at 14:07:36


0A3435392B3736580 wrote:
Little while ago I heard on my car radio that according to cnn the Saudis just said that it was an accident. The guy was killed "inadvertently" during an interrogation. I don't really believe that, but, like I said in the thread about this guy that seems to have disappeared,  I still don't care.

That doesn't mean I want ALL journalists dead.I'm talking specifically about this one guy. He got himself crosswise of some very not nice people and thought he was well known enough to be immune from such nastiness. Mistake.


I have no idea what happened. Have not kept up with it. OldNSlow's take might very well be correct.

I do know one thing for sure, reporters think they are a step below Jesus and the Apostles. I’m more than a little suspicious they are gonna use this to someone how say they face the same dangers being in Trump’s America…..   Just wait, you’ll hear it.

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by MnSpring on 10/15/18 at 14:13:48


2F313E3F322F34295B0 wrote:
  What a terrible thing to say about someone.

But it's OK, when:
American citizens,
are Tortured
and then KILLED,
while asking for help from the then POTUS and HRC.
That is OK with you.    

Yet you 'cry', over a wanna be mobster.










Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by T And T Garage on 10/15/18 at 14:32:10


0F3D3A2B2C3D2A15392A33580 wrote:
Wow... such compassion...

I honestly don't know how to respond to that.

What a terrible thing to say about someone


....says the guy who didn't give a crap that a man's life and reputation was being destroyed as revenge for a political move he had nothing to do with.....


Tell us all how terribly judge keg-stand is doing today... then tell us how Dr. Ford is.

There's your answer.

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by T And T Garage on 10/15/18 at 14:35:11


7D5E634042595E57300 wrote:
[quote author=2F313E3F322F34295B0 link=1539630632/0#4 date=1539636804]   What a terrible thing to say about someone.

But it's OK, when:
American citizens,
are Tortured
and then KILLED,
while asking for help from the then POTUS and HRC.
That is OK with you.    

Yet you 'cry', over a wanna be mobster.
[/quote]

Any idea what was determined in the years long investigation of benghazi?

Of course you don't.  You just parrot lines from conservative sites and don't care about the actual facts.

All I can say is that you're wrong about it.  Again, that's not on me, that's on you.  You refuse to learn and be taught.

Further, you may want to find out just who Jamal Khashoggi was and what he did.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste mn.

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by MnSpring on 10/15/18 at 14:41:31


223C33323F223924560 wrote:
 You refuse to learn and be taught.

A-Yep, that's right !!!!!
I, refuse to be, 'Taught', by someone, who has no ability to see, and understand, how the world functions around them.


Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by WebsterMark on 10/15/18 at 14:46:19

Tell us all how terribly judge keg-stand is doing today... then tell us how Dr. Ford is.

I think they are both suffering because they were used as pawns. You care nothing for Kavanaugh's children because he has a conservative idelogy. He was an innocent man caught in a political fight between politicians. One side was willing to destroy him to extract a measure of revenge. And you didn't care.  How do you sleep at night? Better than his kids did for a while I imagine.

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by T And T Garage on 10/15/18 at 14:48:55


2E0D3013110A0D04630 wrote:
[quote author=223C33323F223924560 link=1539630632/0#9 date=1539639311]  You refuse to learn and be taught.

A-Yep, that's right !!!!!
I, refuse to be, 'Taught', by someone, who has no ability to see, and understand, how the world functions around them.
[/quote]
Says the guy who calls me a he/she.
Says the guy who can't tell the difference between "there", "their" and "they're".
Says the guy who's posts look a lot like ransom notes.
Says the the guy... well mn - all anyone really needs to do is look at your history.  It kinda says it all.

There's no reason for me to have to point it out.  Like I said, your fellow conservatives must love having you in their fold.
(we "lefties" are just as glad you're on their side)

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by T And T Garage on 10/15/18 at 14:56:43


7A484F5E59485F604C5F462D0 wrote:
Tell us all how terribly judge keg-stand is doing today... then tell us how Dr. Ford is.

I think they are both suffering because they were used as pawns.

LOL - judge bud is "suffering"?  Please...  How many death threats is he getting?  Is he also not able to go home?

You care nothing for Kavanaugh's children because he has a conservative idelogy. He was an innocent man caught in a political fight between politicians.

I do not believe he was innocent.

One side was willing to destroy him to extract a measure of revenge. And you didn't care.  How do you sleep at night? Better than his kids did for a while I imagine.


I sleep very well at night, thanks.  

Exactly where do you think his kids go to school mark?  Do you have any idea the seclusion they have from the "real world"?  Do you think they go to a public, progressive school?  Do you really think their neighbors aren't the exact same personality/background as justice kegger??

You say you have all this experience in the real world with people, but I have to wonder....

I actually know people like him.  Where they live.  Who their neighbors are.  How they interact.  None of them have ever had to worry about anything related to money, or their home, or their bills....

They have no idea what the real world even is...

The only "suffering" his kids had were in the minds of the likes of fox "news" to sell a narrative.

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by WebsterMark on 10/15/18 at 15:03:04

LOL - judge bud is "suffering"?  Please...  How many death threats is he getting?  Is he also not able to go home?

Tell you what; go out to eat with him and see what happens......  maybe you can hook up with Ted Cruz.

I do not believe he was innocent.
Based on nothing but partisan hatred.

I actually know people like him.  Where they live.  Who their neighbors are.  How they interact.  None of them have ever had to worry about anything related to money, or their home, or their bills....
I think that's why you particularly hate him so much. He's everything you could never be I guess. Born wealthy, smart, good athlete, lots of friends, good connections and made the most out of it, all the way to The White House and now the Supreme Court.  Your jealous.

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by T And T Garage on 10/15/18 at 15:26:25


7F4D4A5B5C4D5A65495A43280 wrote:
LOL - judge bud is "suffering"?  Please...  How many death threats is he getting?  Is he also not able to go home?

Tell you what; go out to eat with him and see what happens......  maybe you can hook up with Ted Cruz.

Where budweiser brett goes to eat, I have no interest in.  You can bet that he's doing just fine.

I do not believe he was innocent.
Based on nothing but partisan hatred.

No, based on her testimony, his beer drinking and his demeanor in the hearing.  Then, to top it all off, he shows his severe partisanship by going along with trump's televised swearing in.  This guy is bad all the way around.

I actually know people like him.  Where they live.  Who their neighbors are.  How they interact.  None of them have ever had to worry about anything related to money, or their home, or their bills....
I think that's why you particularly hate him so much. He's everything you could never be I guess. Born wealthy, smart, good athlete, lots of friends, good connections and made the most out of it, all the way to The White House and now the Supreme Court.  Your jealous.
(c'mon mark - easy spell check, huh?)



Not at all - you forget that I know those people and they know me.  But that's not the point.  Most of them live in a bubble and people like you think they are something more than average.  Very few of them have a grasp of the real world, and those that do, came from a self-made background.  Most are old money.  The likes of brett and his buds all had college paid for and a six-figure job waiting for them when they got out.  They were predestined for the most part.  Their world intersected very little to that of what most Americans see.

But envy is the last thing I have for people of wealth.  I've seen how these kids were raised.  I've seen what they "worry" about.  Their lives are spent moving the pieces of the chessboard in their favor.  Profit and power over all else.  No exceptions.  I honestly couldn't live that way - I wouldn't want to.  I hate to break it to you, but salesmen and anyone that labors are only a means to an end.  They don't care about those people or their people's families.

I'm quite happy where I am in life and where I'm headed - as if you couldn't tell.

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by WebsterMark on 10/15/18 at 15:32:11

I'm a terrible speller.

Jealous. You hate them.

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by LostArtist on 10/15/18 at 15:32:26


427077666170675874677E150 wrote:
Wow... such compassion...

I honestly don't know how to respond to that.

What a terrible thing to say about someone


....says the guy who didn't give a crap that a man's life and reputation was being destroyed as revenge for a political move he had nothing to do with.....



what an overstatement!!!  Kavanaugh's life was NOT being destroyed, he just wouldn't have gotten a promotion to the Supreme Court, he would have gone back to this job as JUDGE on a powerful Federal Court and kept on living how he was before. NOTHING ELSE.

That's my problem with that crap, such an exaggeration, you sensationalize it to make you feel like some grand injustice was being done, NOT EVEN CLOSE. He'd still have plenty of money for all the beer he wanted.

cry me a river for Kavanaugh....  a rich white man wouldn't have gotten what he wanted... wah!!!! WAHHHH!!! the injustice!!!  

not like he was killed or even being threatened for reporting on a corrupt government.

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by T And T Garage on 10/15/18 at 15:37:29


0C3E39282F3E29163A29305B0 wrote:
I'm a terrible speller.

Jealous. You hate them.


No, I'm not.  But you'd like to think that I am.  It makes you feel better I know.

But once again, reality just doesn't live up to your dream.

Sorry mark.

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by oldNslow on 10/15/18 at 15:42:21


Quote:
This guy knowingly put his life on the line to report.


I don't think he was a reporter. Even the US MSM has backed off calling him a "journalist" and are now referring to him as a "columnist". He wrote opinion pieces, which , in the eyes of the Saudi Royals,  were largely  Muslim Brotherhood propaganda. The Saudi Royal family doesn't like the Muslim Brotherhood. They told him to knock it off. He didn't.

Like I said in the disappeared thread that Eu started. Pis*ing contest among the Arabs.

So lets not make him out to be some sort of superhero. "TRUTH, JUSTICE, AND THE ARABIAN WAY !.  Or something.

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by WebsterMark on 10/15/18 at 16:05:02


7F616E6F627F64790B0 wrote:
[quote author=0C3E39282F3E29163A29305B0 link=1539630632/15#16 date=1539642731]I'm a terrible speller.

Jealous. You hate them.


No, I'm not.  But you'd like to think that I am.  It makes you feel better I know.

But once again, reality just doesn't live up to your dream.

Sorry mark.[/quote]

Nope, you are jealous. You hate Kavanaugh, you hate the rich. You and Lost sound the same.

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by LostArtist on 10/15/18 at 16:23:46


1E2C2B3A3D2C3B04283B22490 wrote:
LOL - judge bud is "suffering"?  Please...  How many death threats is he getting?  Is he also not able to go home?

Tell you what; go out to eat with him and see what happens......  maybe you can hook up with Ted Cruz.

I do not believe he was innocent.
Based on nothing but partisan hatred.

the same reason you think Ford is a liar

I actually know people like him.  Where they live.  Who their neighbors are.  How they interact.  None of them have ever had to worry about anything related to money, or their home, or their bills....
I think that's why you particularly hate him so much. He's everything you could never be I guess. Born wealthy, smart, good athlete, lots of friends, good connections and made the most out of it, all the way to The White House and now the Supreme Court.  Your jealous.


::) . isn't it sweet how Web is such a slave to traditional cultural values of success....    almost like that's all that matters to him, how much money you make and how much of a success you are, if you aren't successful you might as well be dead according to "Master Web"....   ;D . sh*t, that made me laugh

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by LostArtist on 10/15/18 at 16:26:56


5D6F68797E6F78476B78610A0 wrote:
[quote author=7F616E6F627F64790B0 link=1539630632/15#18 date=1539643049][quote author=0C3E39282F3E29163A29305B0 link=1539630632/15#16 date=1539642731]I'm a terrible speller.

Jealous. You hate them.


No, I'm not.  But you'd like to think that I am.  It makes you feel better I know.

But once again, reality just doesn't live up to your dream.

Sorry mark.[/quote]

Nope, you are jealous. You hate Kavanaugh, you hate the rich. You and Lost sound the same. [/quote]


yeah you know, it's almost like TT and I actually value people for more than just their success level and how rich they are...   you know, like we actually believe in equality across the classes and not just giving the rich all the benefits in the world.

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by MnSpring on 10/15/18 at 16:34:11


55766A6D586B6D706A6D190 wrote:
"... a rich white man wouldn't have gotten what he wanted... "

Why are you saying this ? What does the color of his skin have to do with anything ?

And before you said this:
“…  you're just supposed to believe them, they are white guys after all, just believe them..."

Again, both sound like completely, ‘Prejudicial’, statements.

Are you Prejudicial against Kavanaugh, the ‘Kicker of the Pro-Life person, me, JOG ?


Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by WebsterMark on 10/15/18 at 16:41:36

the same reason you think Ford is a liar
No, Ford lied.

isn't it sweet how Web is such a slave to traditional cultural values of success....    almost like that's all that matters to him, how much money you make and how much of a success you are


Not at all. You and TT are the ones judging Kavanaugh on the basis of his wealth, not me.

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by T And T Garage on 10/15/18 at 18:01:32


132126373021360925362F440 wrote:
[quote author=7F616E6F627F64790B0 link=1539630632/15#18 date=1539643049][quote author=0C3E39282F3E29163A29305B0 link=1539630632/15#16 date=1539642731]I'm a terrible speller.

Jealous. You hate them.


No, I'm not.  But you'd like to think that I am.  It makes you feel better I know.

But once again, reality just doesn't live up to your dream.

Sorry mark.[/quote]

Nope, you are jealous. You hate Kavanaugh, you hate the rich. You and Lost sound the same. [/quote]

Well, all I can tell you is that you're wrong.  You're entitled to your opinion.  As I am of mine.

You seem to be bitter, a little scared and frustrated that you're not in the majority of Americans.

You see your party as not being popular, nor relevant.

Of course, that's just my opinion.  I don't know who you are, just like you don't know me.

You may want to leave it at that, or you might say something else that you're going to have to apologize for.

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by WebsterMark on 10/15/18 at 18:52:13

You see your party as not being popular, nor relevant.

Ha! You're killing me! My party has the White House, both the House and Senate, a majority of Governorships. If you look at a map of county election results, its a sea of Red sandwiched by liberal coast with dots of blue in the inner cities of major population centers.


Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by LostArtist on 10/15/18 at 23:47:28


033136272031261935263F540 wrote:
the same reason you think Ford is a liar
No, Ford lied.

isn't it sweet how Web is such a slave to traditional cultural values of success....    almost like that's all that matters to him, how much money you make and how much of a success you are


Not at all. You and TT are the ones judging Kavanaugh on the basis of his wealth, not me.


not judging, just establishing a baseline of reality here. his life is NOT RUINED, because he doesn't get to be a Justice..... far from it.

you are completely blind to his privilege and power already attained, he has NO RIGHT to the Supreme Court, yet you assume it'll destroy his life if he doesn't get it.. phhhhhh, pul lease!  

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by LostArtist on 10/15/18 at 23:48:42


1C2E29383F2E39062A39204B0 wrote:
You see your party as not being popular, nor relevant.

Ha! You're killing me! My party has the White House, both the House and Senate, a majority of Governorships. If you look at a map of county election results, its a sea of Red sandwiched by liberal coast with dots of blue in the inner cities of major population centers.


through corrupt gerrymandering of the voting districts, not actual popularity

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by oldNslow on 10/16/18 at 03:50:48

So, I presume that the point of this conversation is no longer to discuss the demise of Mr. Khashoggi, If it ever actually was.
::) ::)

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by T And T Garage on 10/16/18 at 06:23:01


1C2E29383F2E39062A39204B0 wrote:
You see your party as not being popular, nor relevant.

Ha! You're killing me! My party has the White House, both the House and Senate, a majority of Governorships. If you look at a map of county election results, its a sea of Red sandwiched by liberal coast with dots of blue in the inner cities of major population centers.



Look at that map by population and the balance tips pretty nicely to the left.

Then look at the polls - republicans are nearly 10 points behind (in an economy like this even!)

But that's ok, you can see it the way you like it.

I'll see it as reality.

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by T And T Garage on 10/16/18 at 06:24:48


5B6564687A6667090 wrote:
So, I presume that the point of this conversation is no longer to discuss the demise of Mr. Khashoggi, If it ever actually was.
::) ::)


No, it should be, but so many folks on here have to constantly bring up other, non-related issues and go off on a tangent.

I try to be hospitable to respond, but get stuck in the swamp water...

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by WebsterMark on 10/16/18 at 07:39:03

I'll see it as reality.

That's funny cause you see Ford as telling the Truth. That's some kind of reality.

Title: Re: Who Cares About One Journalist, Right?
Post by verslagen1 on 10/16/18 at 10:44:27


320C0D01130F0E600 wrote:
So, I presume that the point of this conversation is no longer to discuss the demise of Mr. Khashoggi, If it ever actually was.
::) ::)

No one discusses anything any more.
This is just another troll vs troll episode.

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