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Message started by raydawg on 09/15/18 at 10:43:16

Title: WTF??????
Post by raydawg on 09/15/18 at 10:43:16

Manafort’s pro-Ukraine lobbying campaign reached Obama, Biden

HUH?  :-? :-? :-?

We screwed with the election of others?

Paul Manafort’s pro-Ukraine campaign reached the top of the White House, with one of the members of his lobbying effort meeting President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden in 2013, according to new court documents released Friday.

A member of the so-called Hapsburg Group, which comprised former European politicians Manafort convened as part of his lobbying effort in support of Ukraine’s then-President Viktor Yanukovych, came with a foreign prime minister on May 16, 2013, to meet with Obama and Biden, “as well as senior United States officials in the executive and legislative branches,” according to the court documents.


Alan Friedman, a former journalist based in Europe who helped Manafort launch the group, told Manafort after the meeting that the member of the Hapsburg Group “delivered the message of not letting ‘Russians steal Ukraine from the West,’” prosecutors say.

Manafort, President Donald Trump’s former campaign chief, pleaded guilty Friday to two criminal charges from special counsel Robert Mueller to head off a potentially dramatic trial over allegations he violated laws on foreign lobbying. The court documents released Friday say Manafort failed to register as a foreign lobbyist, as required under U.S. law, or disclose a host of meetings, including the one involving Obama and Biden.

The lobbying effort that caught prosecutors’ attention tried to persuade the U.S. government to support Yanukovych, who was at the time under international fire for jailing a rival, former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko. U.S. lawmakers had condemned Yanukovych’s actions, and he would later flee Ukraine for Russia after his government’s security forces beat protesters in 2013.


https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/14/manafort-ukraine-obama-biden-824747

Title: Re: WTF??????
Post by Eegore on 09/15/18 at 16:33:40


 Of course "we" did.  The US has meddled in other governments for decades.

Title: Re: WTF??????
Post by raydawg on 09/15/18 at 17:03:37


1D3D3F372A3D580 wrote:
 Of course "we" did.  The US has meddled in other governments for decades.


But...... Trump, oh, never mind.

Title: Re: WTF??????
Post by T And T Garage on 09/17/18 at 06:01:47


382B332E2B3D2D4A0 wrote:
[quote author=1D3D3F372A3D580 link=1537033396/0#1 date=1537054420]
 Of course "we" did.  The US has meddled in other governments for decades.


But...... Trump, oh, never mind.[/quote]


Yeah, it looks like you don't get it, even though you posted it.

Now that's funny right there.

Title: Re: WTF??????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/17/18 at 13:36:27

Looks like a perfect time for you to explain it.

Title: Re: WTF??????
Post by T And T Garage on 09/17/18 at 13:58:40


716E686F72754474447C6E62291B0 wrote:
Looks like a perfect time for you to explain it.



Oh, gosh, no jog.

This is ray's post - far be it for me to tell ray how to think.

Geez!  I don't want to make a fellow democrat look stupid, now do I?


Title: Re: WTF??????
Post by raydawg on 09/17/18 at 15:27:52


584741465B5C6D5D6D55474B00320 wrote:
Looks like a perfect time for you to explain it.


Trump did Jog, game over  ;D

Title: Re: WTF??????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/17/18 at 15:36:57


3A242B2A273A213C4E0 wrote:
[quote author=716E686F72754474447C6E62291B0 link=1537033396/0#4 date=1537216587]Looks like a perfect time for you to explain it.



Oh, gosh, no jog.

This is ray's post - far be it for me to tell ray how to think.

Geez!  I don't want to make a fellow democrat look stupid, now do I?

[/quote]


So you got nothing.
Shokking.

Title: Re: WTF??????
Post by T And T Garage on 09/17/18 at 16:31:08


706F696E73744575457D6F63281A0 wrote:
[quote author=3A242B2A273A213C4E0 link=1537033396/0#5 date=1537217920][quote author=716E686F72754474447C6E62291B0 link=1537033396/0#4 date=1537216587]Looks like a perfect time for you to explain it.



Oh, gosh, no jog.

This is ray's post - far be it for me to tell ray how to think.

Geez!  I don't want to make a fellow democrat look stupid, now do I?

[/quote]


So you got nothing.
Shokking.[/quote]

I got plenty.  I put it upon ray.  He's the one you should have a beef with.

He's the one that's got nothing.

Title: Re: WTF??????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/17/18 at 16:34:55

You're amazing.
W o w..


Title: Re: WTF??????
Post by T And T Garage on 09/17/18 at 16:37:42


4F5056514C4B7A4A7A42505C17250 wrote:
You're amazing.
W o w..



Thanks, I think I am too.

Finally something we agree on.

Title: Re: WTF??????
Post by faffi on 09/18/18 at 01:17:14

;D

Title: Re: WTF??????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/18/18 at 02:43:33

Just a smiley?
They don't have a reacharound emoji?

Title: Re: WTF??????
Post by T And T Garage on 09/18/18 at 05:54:20


6B747275686F5E6E5E66747833010 wrote:
Just a smiley?
They don't have a reacharound emoji?


My, my, my jog.  Does it really bother you that much?

It's one thing to feel bothered - it's another to pout out loud.

Title: Re: WTF??????
Post by WebsterMark on 09/18/18 at 06:27:13

They don't have a reacharound emoji?

Okay, I have no idea what this thread is about and I'm not going to read it, but I saw this one line and damm!t that's funny JOG! A reacharound emoji! Someone needs to make one.

Title: Re: WTF??????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/18/18 at 15:16:12

I crack people up in public.
My sense of humor is not the every day kind.

Title: Re: WTF??????
Post by raydawg on 09/18/18 at 18:37:46


4B545255484F7E4E7E46545813210 wrote:
I crack people up in public.
My sense of humor is not the every day kind.


You should go camping with Web then.........  :-/

Title: Re: WTF??????
Post by faffi on 09/18/18 at 23:21:15


584741465B5C6D5D6D55474B00320 wrote:
I crack people up in public.
My sense of humor is not the every day kind.



I wonder if they laugh with your or at you?

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