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Message started by och on 09/02/18 at 06:19:44

Title: Is it bad to ride on the passenger seat?
Post by och on 09/02/18 at 06:19:44

I am a pretty big guy for the S40, at 6'3 and 230lb, and lately I found that I'm much more comfortable riding while sitting on the passenger seat. I love the taller seating position and I get to comfortably stretch my legs and arms. But I wonder if its safe to ride like this, since all the weight is over the rear wheel?

Title: Re: Is it bad to ride on the passenger seat?
Post by Serowbot on 09/02/18 at 07:11:50

You're lightening the front end a lot...
Careful on take-off and turns...

You might consider the seat lift mod in the Tech Section. 8-)
I'm only 5' 8" and have the seat raised 2" and 2" oversized rear shocks.

Title: Re: Is it bad to ride on the passenger seat?
Post by och on 09/02/18 at 12:52:52

5345524F57424F54200 wrote:

Seat lift is pretty complicated, and still does not solve the issues of being able to stretch out arms.

Title: Re: Is it bad to ride on the passenger seat?
Post by batman on 09/03/18 at 18:17:43

Drag bars will require you to reach farther and lean your upper body over the tank, helping, (but not curing) to shift some weight back to the front of the bike to stabilize steering control.

Title: Re: Is it bad to ride on the passenger seat?
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 09/04/18 at 07:51:47

2D212A420 wrote:

I love the taller seating position and I get to comfortably stretch my legs and arms.

I don't get it, it's exactly opposite of what I would consider a correct riding position. As an old racer, I'm use to the "attack" position.

I agree with the others, your desired riding position puts the bike out of balance and makes the front end inherently unstable.

Title: Re: Is it bad to ride on the passenger seat?
Post by ohiomoto on 09/04/18 at 10:23:30

I'm 6'3" and I used to pop my tushy on the passenger seat once in a while to stretch my legs before I modified my bike. I wouldn't spend much time there. It's not a very safe position to ride from.

Title: Re: Is it bad to ride on the passenger seat?
Post by och on 09/20/18 at 12:24:11

I've been thinking about getting a bigger bike, and I test drove a BMW R1200R, and while its a bigger overall bike, it feels even smaller - I cant stretch my legs or arms at all.

Looking for advice on a new bike for a taller rider. I am mostly interested in "standard" type of bike - not sport or cruiser.

Title: Re: Is it bad to ride on the passenger seat?
Post by ohiomoto on 09/20/18 at 12:35:20

Then buy a standard or build your own:

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Title: Re: Is it bad to ride on the passenger seat?
Post by och on 09/20/18 at 12:40:34

I believe R1200R is considered a standard?

Title: Re: Is it bad to ride on the passenger seat?
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 09/20/18 at 13:19:30

Is this what you are going for? Looks like the rider is getting ready for his gynecological exam.

Title: Re: Is it bad to ride on the passenger seat?
Post by och on 09/20/18 at 14:17:50

LMFAO!!! Thats kind of what I ride like on my bike.

Title: Re: Is it bad to ride on the passenger seat?
Post by batman on 09/21/18 at 11:38:03

Well I'm only 6ft ,but I've got a 34" inseam ,to be comfortable an adjust the bike for more leg room, you either have to move your butt back or up . Some (me included) have gone to a HD sportster seat (custom mounted) which does both. a basically flat Triumph seat is an other way to go. That's the beauty of a savage ,you can make it your own.

Title: Re: Is it bad to ride on the passenger seat?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/21/18 at 11:48:44

You can move controls forward.
The old two piece seat is much more comfortable. I'm only 5'6" and I used to sit up on the back seat on longer rides.

I had an 05 model with drag bars, health caused me to sell, a few years later I got better, and now I'm riding an 02 with buckhorns and the two piece seat. I like it lots better. Windscreen, saddle bags and a 1954 Lucerne milk crate sideways across the seat. I can haul stuff..

Title: Re: Is it bad to ride on the passenger seat?
Post by IslandRoad on 09/21/18 at 14:07:57

I've messed around a lot with the seat and handlebars, trying to get the right fit for me. I'm only 5'8" and have short legs (and a long torso) but I still needed to allow myself to move back on the seat, and to reach further forward to the handlebars. I have a lot of trouble getting anything to fit me 'off the rack'.

You can modify the seat, for more wriggle room, if you move the rectify from under the seat (mine is now in the toolbox - tools are in a tool roll on the handlebar). Then I cut the bump out of the seat pan and reshaped the foam to give a longer driver's seat and to reduce the angle of the transition between front and back seat. This allows me to move back a bit on the seat. In fact, I can shuffle forward if I'm running through the twisties, and back to get some forward lean on the highway.

As for the handle bars, I found the pullback on the stock tall risers and narrow drag bars brought the handlebars too close to me. Some people turn the risers around (I personally don't like that look). I experimented with different risers and bars until I got what I was after - a pair of 'Z Bars' with a 6" rise did the trick - less pull back and the right height.

Ed.L's forward controls will give you more leg room. Many users here love them. I ran with them for a while, but in the end I removed them as I got the result I was looking for with the above-mentioned mods. And besides, with my short legs, the forward controls reduced my handling too much.

Title: Re: Is it bad to ride on the passenger seat?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/21/18 at 15:50:25

L's forward controls will give you more leg room. Many users here love them. I ran with them for a while, but in the end I removed them as I got the result I was looking

Still got them?

Title: Re: Is it bad to ride on the passenger seat?
Post by IslandRoad on 09/21/18 at 16:18:27

554A4C4B5651605060584A460D3F0 wrote:

L's forward controls will give you more leg room. Many users here love them. I ran with them for a while, but in the end I removed them as I got the result I was looking

Still got them?

Yep, still got 'em.

Title: Re: Is it bad to ride on the passenger seat?
Post by IslandRoad on 09/21/18 at 16:22:34

I actually polished them to match the crankcase and trimmed the plates a bit for a tidier look. I was happy with the look, and the ride was fun, but I went a different way in the end.

http://https://i.imgur.com/ZP8HH83l.jpg

Title: Re: Is it bad to ride on the passenger seat?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/21/18 at 20:33:27

665C434E414B7D404E4B2F0 wrote:

[quote author=554A4C4B5651605060584A460D3F0 link=1535894384/0#14 date=1537570225]L's forward controls will give you more leg room. Many users here love them. I ran with them for a while, but in the end I removed them as I got the result I was looking

Still got them?

Yep, still got 'em.
[/quote]

Wellll, are you gonna offer to sell them to the Tall guy ernott?

Title: Re: Is it bad to ride on the passenger seat?
Post by Dave on 09/22/18 at 03:20:43

If you are tall....there are options that don't involve sitting on the passenger seat or installing extended controls:

http://i68.tinypic.com/zy900x.jpg

Title: Re: Is it bad to ride on the passenger seat?
Post by Scotty on 09/25/18 at 14:49:04

457F606D62685E636D680C0 wrote:

PM sent ;D

Title: Re: Is it bad to ride on the passenger seat?
Post by zipidachimp on 09/25/18 at 22:03:19

The S40 has a short wheelbase, 58", where Honda shadows are 63 to 65". Just a thought. Cheers! 8-)