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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> The pompous GOP credo was a sham all along /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1528800882 Message started by eau de sauvage on 06/12/18 at 03:54:42 |
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Title: The pompous GOP credo was a sham all along Post by eau de sauvage on 06/12/18 at 03:54:42 Not much more to add to this summing up other than to say, I truly am amazed that Trump merely has to say black is white and people act as if it's true. Still I always maintain that 'truth will out' and America will pay dearly for their tolerance of Trump and the blame must go squarely to the spineless GOP https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-pompous-gop-credo-was-a-sham-all-along/2018/06/11/0b700636-6db4-11e8-bd50-b80389a4e569_story.html Sorry, but I simply don’t understand how politically active evangelicals can reconcile devout Christian faith with uncritical support of Trump. Should all of his behavior be excused because he appoints judges who will restrict abortion and same-sex marriage rights? Then tell me, what is pro-family about a policy of forcibly separating asylum-seekers from their young children at the border? Where in the New Testament does it say that blessed are the cruel? |
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Title: Re: The pompous GOP credo was a sham all along Post by Eegore on 06/12/18 at 06:18:19 An immigration detention facility cant be licensed for child care from what I understand. |
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Title: Re: The pompous GOP credo was a sham all along Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/12/18 at 06:21:03 GOP? Where did that law come from? If Your house is broken into and they brought children with them, how should the law deal with that? |
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Title: Re: The pompous GOP credo was a sham all along Post by raydawg on 06/12/18 at 06:44:55 I wonder...... is abortion cruel? |
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Title: Re: The pompous GOP credo was a sham all along Post by Eegore on 06/12/18 at 06:46:41 I wonder if this thread has anything to do with abortion. I'm leaning towards no, unless ICE or CBP start doing them. |
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Title: Re: The pompous GOP credo was a sham all along Post by eau de sauvage on 06/12/18 at 07:35:27 Let me get this straight, you've had burglars seeking asylum in your lounge room? 2C3335322F2819291921333F74460 wrote:
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Title: Re: The pompous GOP credo was a sham all along Post by raydawg on 06/12/18 at 07:40:56 022220283522470 wrote:
Where in the New Testament does it say that blessed are those who endorse a woman to abort a child for convenience? They raised abortion in the article, did they not? |
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Title: Re: The pompous GOP credo was a sham all along Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/12/18 at 09:31:49 52405457404644210 wrote:
[/quote] Look up Analogy Illegal ENTRY into a place, hauling your kids somehow demands that the entity entered is required to yield concessions to the people who entered Illegally. Sorry. Life isn't like that. What happens to children whose parents go to jail? Maybe mommy and daddy should have thought about that. |
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Title: Re: The pompous GOP credo was a sham all along Post by eau de sauvage on 06/12/18 at 12:12:15 Hey JoG, I have a better idea, why don't *you* look up 'straw man argument' you'll see how false analogies are the weapon of choice in this tactic. But if it helps you to reconcile your glee at bullying and racist cruelty, I guess you need to do that. But IMHO it's best to do the right thing, for a sound night's sleep. |
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Title: Re: The pompous GOP credo was a sham all along Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/12/18 at 13:23:42 Calling the ability to see how reality works somehow a fault is your skill. It's not a straw man argument. Look it up. |
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Title: Re: The pompous GOP credo was a sham all along Post by WebsterMark on 06/12/18 at 13:46:57 I, for one, did not vote for Trump to be Pastor for the United States. I voted for him to run the country. By all accounts, Obama was a fine and moral man. Anyone would be happy to have him as a neighbor. Someone who you'd lend tools to and someone whom you could borrow a tool from. As a President, he was just a hair above worthless. Another Jimmy Carter. You never want the truth to get in the way of a good story and I'm not sure if this is 100% accurate but it was said Martin Luther proclaimed "I'd rather be ruled by a wise Turk than a foolish Christian." |
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Title: Re: The pompous GOP credo was a sham all along Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/12/18 at 14:07:04 485A4E4D5A5C5E3B0 wrote:
It's the same thing. In KIND. Only different in scale. If it's Actually a straw man, you can explain HOW that is true. |
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Title: Re: The pompous GOP credo was a sham all along Post by Eegore on 06/12/18 at 14:21:14 6D7E667B7E68781F0 wrote:
Where in the New Testament does it say that blessed are those who endorse a woman to abort a child for convenience? They raised abortion in the article, did they not? [/quote] In the manner that this article is written I would say that forced abortions are cruel. Abortions by choice would be similar to immigrants volunteering to give their children up. |
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Title: Re: The pompous GOP credo was a sham all along Post by Matchless G11 on 06/13/18 at 03:39:25 Abortions by choice would be similar to immigrants volunteering to give their children up.[/quote] To be taken out and shot? |
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Title: Re: The pompous GOP credo was a sham all along Post by WebsterMark on 06/13/18 at 03:54:25 Not shot. Chopped into little pieces and tossed into a fire. Or turned into a slushee. Or killed and divided into pieces for medical experiments. The oldest ones get holes drilled into their heads and brains sucked out first to make sure their good and dead before starting one of the other procedures. There, that completes the analogy. |
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Title: Re: The pompous GOP credo was a sham all along Post by Eegore on 06/13/18 at 06:01:46 My understanding of the article is that the "forced" separation of family is the topic and the act of separating a family by "force" is cruel. Another question posed is if abortion is cruel, and to place that into context of "forced" actions I correlate forced separation of family to forced aboirtion procedures. An example would be a pregnant immigrant being forced to have an abortion by US immigration policy. This creates a "forced" action by policy. If an immigrant parent volunteers a child for adoption/placement the action is "voluntary" and is no longer forced by definition. There is no mention of killing children by abortion, or other means by force. All murder of children by any means of any age in my comparison would be done by parents volunteering their children for the action. This would not be forced abortion, or execution of children of any age. |
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Title: Re: The pompous GOP credo was a sham all along Post by raydawg on 06/13/18 at 06:41:07 7454565E4354310 wrote:
Here is the quote: Sorry, but I simply don’t understand how politically active evangelicals can reconcile devout Christian faith with uncritical support of Trump. Should all of his behavior be excused because he appoints judges who will restrict abortion and same-sex marriage rights? Then tell me, what is pro-family about a policy of forcibly separating asylum-seekers from their young children at the border? Where in the New Testament does it say that blessed are the cruel? He introduced abortion, in his argument to claim believers must be hypocrites, because of Trumps policies re: Immigration. In doing so, he stuck his own neck, in the noose, he intended for others. Now, if you want to say killing a baby is NOT cruel, then you can claim such a argument, however, expect dissension, for your belief a fetus can not experience cruel pain, is just YOUR belief, not fact, and the only TRUE witness is no longer alive to testify in their OWN behalf. This is NOT a argument on abortion, but a rebuttal of disengenous materiel introduced as argument against the charge against believers |
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Title: Re: The pompous GOP credo was a sham all along Post by eau de sauvage on 06/18/18 at 02:04:21 594A524F4A5C4C2B0 wrote:
Why yes they did. And how was it raised? It was raised in the context of Donald's professed anti abortion stance being about 'pro family' and that was then contrasted with trump's and sessions' desire to rip families apart in a plan so heartless that even Melania Trump is calling it cruel and heartless, along with Laura Bush. That was the context it was brought up. |
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Title: Re: The pompous GOP credo was a sham all along Post by raydawg on 06/18/18 at 05:20:45 You wear your righteous indignation anger well...... Hope it brings you much joy. I bet you work with orphans, and abused and neglected children. Must be a lot of them where you live. Good job! |
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Title: Re: The pompous GOP credo was a sham all along Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/18/18 at 06:53:47 Ooopsies, take your kids, or, borrow a few, and take them to commit a crime. You're GONNA get separated. WTF ELSE? |
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