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Message started by Gyrobob on 03/15/18 at 05:48:04

Title: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by Gyrobob on 03/15/18 at 05:48:04

Last year Photobucket (PB) said if we wanted to keep using images here that we had stored on PB, we'd have to give them $400 for "Third Party Hosting." Hateful extortion.

Now, apparently due to a huge wave of complaints, they have lowered their extortion level to $99.

I considered using some other service and replacing all the images (hundreds) in the Double RYCA Build thread to get back to a free situation, but jeeeeez, that would be many hours of work.

Now that they lowered their extortion level to $99 (their so-called Premium plan), I can avoid those many hours of work. It is painful to pay it, but at that price, it is worth paying the fee and getting all the images back on the Double RYCA Build and several other threads I generated here.

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by kylejang on 03/15/18 at 08:51:16

Hello! I don't know much about social media but how about create a Facebook page or Youtube to upload pictures and videos from now on?
I think it might be better option for long term. It is just my thought.
Have a good day everyone. :)

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by ohiomoto on 03/15/18 at 08:57:24

Personally, I attach photos in forums so that they will be hosted by the forum. That way if I fall by the wayside, the photos will still be there.

As far as PB, I don't use it, but how is it extortion for a company to charge for their services? There are costs associated with storing your photos (which they do for free) and additional costs associated with publicly hosting those photos.

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by Fast 650 on 03/15/18 at 09:22:03

Back in the 90's, a lot of people put up web pages and linked to images or articles on other sites. As the linked sites went down or restructured their content, those links were broken and soon were lost forever. If it is important then keep it all on the same site instead of linking to 3rd party sites. Otherwise, just like during the 90's, the information will be lost at some point.

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by Gyrobob on 03/15/18 at 10:11:57

6072676E616A656C0B0 wrote:

It is a convenience factor. When most folks are reading through a thread on a forum like this, they usually don't feel like going somewhere else to view a pic or video.

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by Gyrobob on 03/15/18 at 10:17:16

52555452505249523D0 wrote:

You can not "attach photos in forums so that they will be hosted by the forum."

" how is it extortion for a company to charge for their services? " Because PB, for decades made a very big deal about hosting pics for everyone on the planet for free. Trillions of pics put there by millions of people,.. all looking at the many ads on the FB site. Had I known that eventually I would have to pay $400 a year, I would never have used it. Most of us can't afford that kind fee.

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by Gyrobob on 03/15/18 at 10:18:01

684F5D5A181B1E2E0 wrote:

Valid point

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by IslandRoad on 03/15/18 at 11:10:34

If the service is free, then you are the product.

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by IslandRoad on 03/15/18 at 11:18:10

I agree with Gyrobob (although I think the label "extortion" is a bit extreme).

It's definitely poor form. The company offers a free service - probably making their money from advertising on the site. They switch business models to one where the user pays for the service. However, they know that many people have invested hours upon hours in uploading images. They may even use the site as the basis for a business, such as a photographer or designer who uses the site as an online folio.

To jump from free to $400 is hefty. That decision probably relies on the assumption that people will feel they have no other option but to pay, because of what they have already invested in time.

I have no problem with their new business model, but the history in this particular instance creates a problem. They are using their 'free' service, and the popularity of it, as leverage to launch their new model. That creates ill-feeling.

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by ohiomoto on 03/16/18 at 07:54:31

556B607D707D70120 wrote:

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You are free to remove your photos from their servers and do whatever you please with them. Hence, it's not extortion.

And I'll just attach this photo.....

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by ohiomoto on 03/16/18 at 08:02:20

And post its URL for your viewing pleasure:
http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/pb.jpg

Which can now be inserted in any forum as long as I don't change or delete it from the above post (or, until suzukisavage.com goes down or removes it).

http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/pb.jpg

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by Gyrobob on 03/16/18 at 08:05:53

6562636567657E650A0 wrote:

[quote author=556B607D707D70120 link=1521118084/0#5 date=1521134236]

You can not "attach photos in forums so that they will be hosted by the forum."

" how is it extortion for a company to charge for their services? " Because PB, for decades made a very big deal about hosting pics for everyone on the planet for free. Trillions of pics put there by millions of people,.. all looking at the many ads on the FB site. Had I known that eventually I would have to pay $400 a year, I would never have used it. Most of us can't afford that kind fee.

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You are free to remove your photos from their servers and do whatever you please with them. Hence, it's not extortion.

And I'll just attach this photo.....
[/quote]

Nice try,.. you proved my point

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh253/Gyrobob_theOriginal/3rd%20party%20host%2002_zpsinhm87km.jpg (http://s258.photobucket.com/user/Gyrobob_theOriginal/media/3rd%20party%20host%2002_zpsinhm87km.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by ohiomoto on 03/16/18 at 12:58:01

How so? The photo I "attached" is now being hosted by suzukisavage.com

What exactly is your point that I just proved?

EDIT:

Oh, do you think the photobucket 3rd party warning image is from them? Not the case, I downloaded to my computer off of the internet and then uploaded it to this site as an attachment in my previous post, and then referenced it as a (hosted) photo in the post right after.

The URL tells you what you need to know. For example, your screenshot is located here: http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh253/Gyrobob_theOriginal/3rd%20party%20host%2002_zpsinhm87km.jpg (photobucket).

I can save that and put upload it as an attachment...

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by ohiomoto on 03/16/18 at 13:07:15

And then insert the attached image that is now being hosted here (http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/bobsscreenshot.jpg) like this...

http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/bobsscreenshot.jpg

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by ohiomoto on 03/16/18 at 13:08:50

To further prove my point, (which is your point?) I can even go back and edit what I attached to the earlier post...

The new attachment is now hosted here: http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/IMG_20170727_071804829_001.jpg

And it can be inserted here...
http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/IMG_20170727_071804829_001.jpg

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by ohiomoto on 03/16/18 at 13:14:15

You may notice that the original attachment is still at http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/pb.jpg and can still be used anywhere I want as long as suzukisavage.com lets me. It sort of a free service right now. ;)

http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/pb.jpg

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by ohiomoto on 03/16/18 at 13:24:04

You can attach any picture that you have saved to your computer. Here is one that we used for a website here at work. A copy of it will be uploaded and hosted by this site and you can post it anywhere else you want. Just be warned that if suzukisavage.com takes it down, it will no longer work anywhere else you may have used it.

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/16/18 at 19:10:11

Just use https://postimages.org you don't need to sign up and they supply direct code to embed anywhere or they give you thumbnails that link.

@Island Road, I have to disagree with you, $400 *was* extortion as is $99. In fact the proof that they can come down $300 proves they were just trying to see how badly they could screw people. I'm surprised anyone bothers with them any longer. There are better places to give your cash to if it's a service you need. For what they want to charge you could have your own frikken hosted website for your photos.

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by Gyrobob on 03/16/18 at 20:05:00

Now all I have to do is spend a hundred hours transferring several hundred PB pics to this forum.

I'll pass.

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by Gyrobob on 03/19/18 at 08:13:26

eau de sauvage said, "@Island Road, I have to disagree with you, $400 *was* extortion as is $99. In fact the proof that they can come down $300 proves they were just trying to see how badly they could screw people. I'm surprised anyone bothers with them any longer. There are better places to give your cash to if it's a service you need. For what they want to charge you could have your own frikken hosted website for your photos."

Well stated, EDS!

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by IslandRoad on 03/20/18 at 00:11:41

0638332E232E23410 wrote:

I'm agreeing with you. The rest is semantics ;)

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by Tocsik on 03/31/18 at 14:44:50

2F30373A3C372D2F3C3E386C696E590 wrote:

You could use a chrome extension named;"photobucket hotlink fix", and now you be able to watch any photobucket picture.

I think that may be a malicious extension. Would advise against using it.

NOTE FROM DAVE: Tocsik appears to be correct....or at a minimum this extension is causing problems in some computers. A large number of recent users state their computers are slowed down to a crawl in the reviews.

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by jcstokes on 03/31/18 at 17:39:46

The few photos I've posted here, I've just scanned into my computer, sized them under the size limit for the site and posted. I've never worried about anybodies, bucket or file sharing system.

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by Gyrobob on 04/01/18 at 20:29:04

I tried that several years ago and was told we can't do that.

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by IslandRoad on 04/02/18 at 02:02:09

Sometimes do the same. But I wondered if uploading images to this site would affect server costs.

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by Violent_Rage on 04/06/18 at 02:33:17

4443424446445F442B0 wrote:

Wherever you plan to save your pics, you have to know that I love your bike.

Title: Re: Photobucket extortion has eased just a bit.
Post by slagged on 04/07/18 at 08:46:00

754E4252484A210 wrote:

[quote author=2F30373A3C372D2F3C3E386C696E590 link=1521118084/15#21 date=1522512746]You could use a chrome extension named;"photobucket hotlink fix", and now you be able to watch any photobucket picture.