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Message started by WebsterMark on 12/06/17 at 16:33:17

Title: Roy Moore
Post by WebsterMark on 12/06/17 at 16:33:17

I didn't know half of this. Gotta love Ann Coulter.

JERRY SEINFELD ENDORSES ROY MOORE?
December 6, 2017

Apparently, the GOP is now the party of CHILD MOLESTATION! At least the media tell me that's the meaning of President Trump's endorsement of Senate candidate Roy Moore.

Are we allowed to mention that Moore denies the charges?

It's hard to disprove accusations from 40 years ago -- that's why we have statutes of limitations -- but, despite that, there are a surprising number of problems with the allegations against Moore.

One accuser has been called a liar by her own stepson, who says he's voting for Moore. Another neglected to mention that Moore sent her brother to prison.

In defense of one of Moore's accusers, Gloria Allred produced a yearbook allegedly signed by Moore, apparently in two different inks and giving his title as "D.A." He was not the district attorney and didn't sign his name that way. Allred refuses to produce the yearbook for handwriting analysis or to deny that it's a forgery.

Contrary to what you have heard one million times a day on TV, there aren't "multiple accusers." There are two, and that's including the one with the fishy yearbook inscription whose stepson says she's lying.

The other "accusers" claim he dated them when they were 16 to 19 years old and Moore was in his early 30s -- or younger than Jerry Seinfeld was (39) when he dated 17-year-old Shoshanna Lonstein.

That would also make Moore 15 years younger than Bill Clinton when he had a 22-year-old intern performing oral sex on him in the Oval Office. Moore's date "accusers" say he did nothing more than kiss them.

The media throw the dating claims in with the molestation claims so they can keep howling about "multiple accusers." In fact, only two women are alleging anything that, if true, would merit national attention.

TV anchors think it's very clever of them to ask anyone who isn't bowled over by the claims of Moore's (two) accusers: So you're calling the women "liars"?

Checkmate!

There's a lot of room between HE'S A CHILD MOLESTER and THE WOMEN ARE LIARS.

They could be misremembering. They could be confusing Moore with someone else. They could be suggestible. They could be delusional. They could have repeated the story to themselves so many times that they believe it. They could be really, really disgusted with Jerry Seinfeld.

The main accuser has gotten a lot of her facts wrong, such as where she was living at the time (she moved to another town 10 days after meeting Moore); the corner where she allegedly met Moore for their liaisons (she named a corner more than a mile away from her house, across a busy intersection); and when she began to get into trouble with boys and alcohol (it was before meeting Moore, not after).

It was 40 years ago! But it's just weeks before the election and that's the media's favorite time to produce wild accusations against Republicans.

Four days before the 1992 presidential election, Independent Counsel Lawrence Walsh dropped an indictment of Reagan's defense secretary, Caspar Weinberger, which seemed to implicate President George H.W. Bush in a lie. Bush lost the election, and about a month later a judge threw out the indictment.

In the middle of the 2004 presidential campaign, CBS's Dan Rather produced forged documents allegedly proving that President George W. Bush had shirked his National Guard service decades earlier.

In September 2006, just before the midterm elections, the media released GOP congressman Mark Foley's creepy emails to House pages. No physical contact was alleged. The corpus delicti was that Foley told pages they looked "hot" in their soccer shorts.

The entire GOP was crucified by the media for not having discovered this "pedophile" in its midst. Republican congressmen who had never met Foley lost their seats because of the media's timing of the email release.

More than 20 years earlier, a Democratic congressman, Gerry Studds, who had actually buggered a 17-year-old page, indignantly defied his House censure and proudly stood for re-election. His outraged Massachusetts constituents elected him six more times. Washington Post columnist Colman McCarthy denounced the "witch hunt" against Studds, saying his critics wanted "to torch the congressman for his private life."

When Studds died in 2006, The Washington Post's headline on his obituary was: Gerry Studds; Gay Pioneer in Congress. The New York Times' headline was, Gerry Studds Dies at 69; First Openly Gay Congressman.

I supported Rep. Mo Brooks in the primary, but Alabamians would be crazy to let the media vilification of Moore affect their vote. Moore's real crime is that he's a believing Christian who goes around wantonly quoting the Bible on sodomy. Journalists react to that like Linda Blair in "The Exorcist."

The media say that Republicans support Moore just because they want another GOP vote in the Senate. I support Moore just because I hate the media.

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/06/17 at 20:04:48

Allegations,,
Piss OFF
PROVE SOMETHING
Take that fukking autograph and have it Authenticated or S.T.MUTHERFUKKING HELL UP.
Do that. THEN we talk.

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by raydawg on 12/06/17 at 20:51:41

Sound bite mentality......
It sells and makes good ratings.
I admit, it tweaks me.
When I hear a snippet of what I perceive as GOOD, I don’t readily scrutinize it until I have to.

I think Moore is a good example of this type of motivation in reporting.
The court of public opinion has absolutely no qualms about misinformation and anonymous scources....
How can you interrogate a person if they don’t have the conviction of standing up to what they say is truth?

I have great reservations about the guy, but it is based on heresy and innuendo, not facts.
I know I would not like others to judge me as such.
And I don’t care on flying fuuuck it’s because he is running for public office that we need to infringe in our constitutional rights....
Nor is it that I believe the ladies are lying...
Nor do you, truth, or lies.

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/06/17 at 23:41:05

The notable difference with
Moore is
There is EVIDENCE to analyze.
Not doing that FIRST makes no sense.

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by WebsterMark on 12/11/17 at 11:20:57

Saw a great line today, "At least no one drowned in Moore's car...."

Ouch!

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by raydawg on 12/11/17 at 11:39:48


4E7C7B6A6D7C6B54786B72190 wrote:
Saw a great line today, "At least no one drowned in Moore's car...."

Ouch!


Just a swamp incident, I reckon.
If it had been drained, well, just say'n......

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by T And T Garage on 12/11/17 at 14:09:01

Last week fox news botched report about how one of Roy Moore's victims had "forged" her yearbook. They had to retract.
Breitbart of course never corrected. No uproar about fake news. No suspensions. Let's acknowledge double standard - right-wing is allowed to & expected to lie.

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by WebsterMark on 12/11/17 at 16:40:31

You're wrong.

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by WebsterMark on 12/12/17 at 05:48:44

The final average on realclearpolitics this morning of 8 different polls shows Moore up 2.2. It will be interesting to see the final numbers. By the way, the spread is pretty big. Fox News poll from last week has Jones up 10 while some polling service named Emerson has Moore up 9. One poll, Monmouth, shows a tie.

I think Moore wins. The anti-media sentiment is still strong as is a push back against liberals criticizing Alabama. Calling people backward, racist is not going to endear you to voters. I think it's likely many young voters quietly vote Moore as a middle finger to elites. Also, anyone over 60 remembers  the days when 30 year olds dated and married teenagers and the fake year book inscription all but proved that woman was unstable and lashed out at Moore without a legitimate basis.

Funny comment I read this morning about this election: It's a choice between a man who wants to abort babies in the 3rd trimester vs a man who wants them to live until 14 so he can date them!

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by T And T Garage on 12/12/17 at 05:51:21


615354454253447B57445D360 wrote:
You're wrong.


Wow... stunning retort!
;D

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by T And T Garage on 12/12/17 at 05:53:38


5E6C6B7A7D6C7B44687B62090 wrote:
The final average on realclearpolitics this morning of 8 different polls shows Moore up 2.2. It will be interesting to see the final numbers. By the way, the spread is pretty big. Fox News poll from last week has Jones up 10 while some polling service named Emerson has Moore up 9. One poll, Monmouth, shows a tie.

I think Moore wins. The anti-media sentiment is still strong as is a push back against liberals criticizing Alabama. Calling people backward, racist is not going to endear you to voters. I think it's likely many young voters quietly vote Moore as a middle finger to elites. Also, anyone over 60 remembers  the days when 30 year olds dated and married teenagers and the fake year book inscription all but proved that woman was unstable and lashed out at Moore without a legitimate basis.

Funny comment I read this morning about this election: It's a choice between a man who wants to abort babies in the 3rd trimester vs a man who wants them to live until 14 so he can date them!


If moore wins it'll just prove that Alabama is, once again, the taint of the US.

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by Trippah on 12/12/17 at 06:44:37

Really, men having affairs with women........girls, etc.  I think this is where the saying "Here comes the Judge!" originated. ;D ;D

Rumor is that he wrote G&R's Sweet Child of Mine.

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by WebsterMark on 12/12/17 at 07:59:48

If moore wins it'll just prove that Alabama is, once again, the taint of the US.

A demonstration why Moore's still in the race and may very well win and part of the reason Trump won. The snobbery, condescending, hateful and hypocrisy smell of leftist in the US.

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by T And T Garage on 12/12/17 at 10:46:22


724047565140576844574E250 wrote:
If moore wins it'll just prove that Alabama is, once again, the taint of the US.

A demonstration why Moore's still in the race and may very well win and part of the reason Trump won. The snobbery, condescending, hateful and hypocrisy smell of leftist in the US.



Yeah, that's it alright <<<sarcasm.... what's that great line you use?

Oh - YOU'RE WRONG.

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by MnSpring on 12/12/17 at 10:49:59

;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Just for ‘$hit’s  &  Grins’.
 Looked up  ‘exit polls, Moore’.

Found one, which had, today's, and past several weeks.
When it wasn’t, ‘Hot’, they were just one poll,
saying: + amount for a person.

Today's it is several poll companies polls,
each with Different, amounts.

So add the Semi-Trucks full of MUD,
one side has done.
To exit polls  stating, (apparently),  False %’s,  to get out more people to vote one way or the other.

(Hey it is  Perfectly OK, to make, ‘Accusations’, with out ANY  Proof,  Because, CNN and like, and their  Parrots, have all said it is  Perfectly OK !!!)

As  RAY said: “…The court of public opinion has absolutely no qualms about misinformation and anonymous scorches...."
Is  SO   Apparent in this case.

Tomorrow, will tell the tale of whether,
Those, voters voted for, someone, who, they KNOW, is for  KILLING  babies in the Womb, as to his  Personal, and his  Backing parties believes.
Or a person, who has been, ‘Accused’, of something, with NO  Proof.

     (For the Panty In A BUNCH…)
FACT:  Jones, Believes, Supports, ABORTION.
     (Is this, ‘PLANK’, not in the DEM  Platform?)
FACT:  No, Proof, of the ‘Allegations’, against  Moore.
     (And that Proof is ?)

If  Moore wins, it shows that,  MUD/Allegations, do Not work.
And the people that voted for him prefer to wait and see what, ‘Facts’, come out.

If Jones  wins.  Expect  even MORE,  MUD/Allegations,
to be used, because it worked in this case.

A Side note:  A advertisement, for  Women, to buy a  ’T’ shirt.
With a lot of writing on, stating things, against the nature of,  ‘sexual abuse’.
  (Yea  agree, so STOP  pushing the  Pendulum)
Here is the rub.  To  Read those words,
one will have to Look at a  Woman's Chest !

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by WebsterMark on 12/12/17 at 13:07:15


746A656469746F72000 wrote:
[quote author=724047565140576844574E250 link=1512606798/0#12 date=1513094388]If moore wins it'll just prove that Alabama is, once again, the taint of the US.

A demonstration why Moore's still in the race and may very well win and part of the reason Trump won. The snobbery, condescending, hateful and hypocrisy smell of leftist in the US.



Yeah, that's it alright <<<sarcasm.... what's that great line you use?

Oh - YOU'RE WRONG.[/quote]

Correct, in this case you're right,.....you're wrong.

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by raydawg on 12/12/17 at 13:14:38

Web, you feed Polly crackers?

Everyone does, that is why he is getting fatter  ;D

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by T And T Garage on 12/12/17 at 13:44:39


033136272031261935263F540 wrote:
[quote author=746A656469746F72000 link=1512606798/0#13 date=1513104382][quote author=724047565140576844574E250 link=1512606798/0#12 date=1513094388]If moore wins it'll just prove that Alabama is, once again, the taint of the US.

A demonstration why Moore's still in the race and may very well win and part of the reason Trump won. The snobbery, condescending, hateful and hypocrisy smell of leftist in the US.



Yeah, that's it alright <<<sarcasm.... what's that great line you use?

Oh - YOU'RE WRONG.[/quote]

Correct, in this case you're right,.....you're wrong.
[/quote]

Wow... well web, you've proved once again that the mentality of a righty is equal to or lesser than that of a 3rd grader.

LOL - why not just say "I know you are, but what am I?"  ;D

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by T And T Garage on 12/12/17 at 13:45:14


2B38203D382E3E590 wrote:
Web, you feed Polly crackers?

Everyone does, that is why he is getting fatter  ;D


Correction - I'm already fat.

Once again, ray's wrong!
;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/12/17 at 13:48:41

Correction
Being fat doesn't stop you from getting
Fatter.
Ray is right.
You're so dishonest you lie to yourself and believe it.

Sometimes I wonder why you're afraid to engage me.
Then I look at the scoreboard.
And understand why you just take a knee.

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by WebsterMark on 12/12/17 at 13:57:54

A demonstration why Moore's still in the race and may very well win and part of the reason Trump won. The snobbery, condescending, hateful and hypocrisy smell of leftist in the US.

My statement above is 100% accurate. Leftist did not win because of Russia or disillusioned Sanders supporter's protest votes. Leftist lost for a reason beyond your capacity to understand. You "cannot see the forest for the trees" as the saying goes. You lost because of yourself and your kindred spirts. If Moore wins, your kind will be the reason why. Consider this, you are losing to Donald Trump and Roy Moore.  

How long this will go on is anyone's guess. At some point, and since this is the Christmas Season I'll use a Scrooge reference, you're going to have to face your ugly selves and change ....or you'll burn.

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by T And T Garage on 12/12/17 at 14:04:09


0E3C3B2A2D3C2B14382B32590 wrote:
A demonstration why Moore's still in the race and may very well win and part of the reason Trump won. The snobbery, condescending, hateful and hypocrisy smell of leftist in the US.

My statement above is 100% accurate. Leftist did not win because of Russia or disillusioned Sanders supporter's protest votes. Leftist lost for a reason beyond your capacity to understand. You "cannot see the forest for the trees" as the saying goes. You lost because of yourself and your kindred spirts. If Moore wins, your kind will be the reason why. Consider this, you are losing to Donald Trump and Roy Moore.  

How long this will go on is anyone's guess. At some point, and since this is the Christmas Season I'll use a Scrooge reference, you're going to have to face your ugly selves and change ....or you'll burn.


Nah - I'm good with my views.

The only ones who will "lose" to tweety or moore are the American people.

I love how you give all these dire warnings - I'm not scared at all - seems you are though.

Change is coming web - real change and you and your right wing morons can do nothing about it.

You're in bed (pun intended) with the likes of a pedophile and a lying, thin-skinned man child.

The more you scream, the more I smile.

Thanks - you keep on doing you.
:)

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by Serowbot on 12/12/17 at 14:11:06

70% of the people wish Trump wasn't president.
30% are happy...

I think it's the 30% that will have to face their ugly selves or change...

... about 20% already have...

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by T And T Garage on 12/12/17 at 14:13:40


4157405D45505D46320 wrote:
70% of the people wish Trump wasn't president.
30% are happy...

I think it's the 30% that will have to face their ugly selves or change...

... about 20% already have...


.... Aaaaand the claim of "fake polls"... in 3......2........

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by MnSpring on 12/12/17 at 14:20:05

Interesting.
 Is 20%,  the same as, 1,600 ?

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by verslagen1 on 12/12/17 at 14:24:24


3D2B3C21392C213A4E0 wrote:
70% of the people wish Trump wasn't president.
30% are happy...

I think it's the 30% that will have to face their ugly selves or change...

... about 20% already have...

20% wish they had another choice.

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by WebsterMark on 12/12/17 at 14:58:57

True Vers, Trump wasn't my choice to change things up but he was the only guy at the time who could. No one else was going to beat Hilary.

...and no, I'm not going to change. I think we should limit immigration into the country. I think we should deport illegal immigrants convicted of a crime.  I think any ridiculous visa lottery system has to be eliminated.  I think we need a massive tax cut and put as much money as possible back in everyone's hands and I don't care if they're millionaires or make 20,000 a year.  I think we should withhold all federal funds for any city that passes ordinances that forbid their law enforcement from working with ICE. i'm glad we walked away from the Paris climate agreement and hope we never go back. I'm glad we are starting up construction on the Keystone pipeline again. i'm glad we are looking at the practices of naming huge areas of federal land as protected monuments.  I think the idea of having trans gender soldiers in combat zones is ridiculous.  

that's a good start.

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by T And T Garage on 12/12/17 at 15:38:15


675552434455427D51425B300 wrote:
True Vers, Trump wasn't my choice to change things up but he was the only guy at the time who could. No one else was going to beat Hilary.

...and no, I'm not going to change. I think we should limit immigration into the country. (we already do) I think we should deport illegal immigrants convicted of a crime.(we already do)  I think any ridiculous visa lottery system has to be eliminated.  I think we need a massive tax cut and put as much money as possible back in everyone's hands and I don't care if they're millionaires or make 20,000 a year.(that's not the tweety tax cut)  I think we should withhold all federal funds for any city that passes ordinances that forbid their law enforcement from working with ICE. i'm glad we walked away from the Paris climate agreement and hope we never go back. I'm glad we are starting up construction on the Keystone pipeline again. i'm glad we are looking at the practices of naming huge areas of federal land as protected monuments.(um, that's not what's going on)  I think the idea of having trans gender soldiers in combat zones is ridiculous.  (homophobe much)

that's a good start.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by MnSpring on 12/12/17 at 16:00:26


516364757263744B67746D060 wrote:
True Vers, Trump wasn't my choice to change things up but he was the only guy at the time who could. No one else was going to beat Hilary.  ...and no, I'm not going to change. I think we should limit immigration into the country. I think we should deport illegal immigrants convicted of a crime.  I think any ridiculous visa lottery system has to be eliminated.  I think we need a massive tax cut and put as much money as possible back in everyone's hands and I don't care if they're millionaires or make 20,000 a year.  I think we should withhold all federal funds for any city that passes ordinances that forbid their law enforcement from working with ICE. i'm glad we walked away from the Paris climate agreement and hope we never go back. I'm glad we are starting up construction on the Keystone pipeline again. i'm glad we are looking at the practices of naming huge areas of federal land as protected monuments.  I think the idea of having trans gender soldiers in combat zones is ridiculous.  that's a good start.



      A-Yep agree.
As I am sure so many,  'Deploribal's', also do.
 Oh, and, Can't forget those, 'Red-Necks',
    those, Stupid, Ignorant, Morons,
      and the Knuckle dragging, Gun Lovers.

Basically, the  Majority of
the, LEGAL,  CITIZENS. of this Country.

And I believe it is rather Clear, that the, 'Conservatives', here, that voted for Trump.
Did so, because he was the 'Lesser Evil', of the 2 presented.

And I believe it is rather Clear, that the, 'Ultra-Liberals', here, that voted for HRC.  
     Voted,  FOR, the Evil.







Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by WebsterMark on 12/12/17 at 19:35:55

Thank God this Senate race is over.

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by ruckus430 on 12/12/17 at 20:00:42

AAAAhhhhhhh roy moore lost too bad Trump couldn't save his child molester buddy lolll  moore and trump both like em younnggg thats why he backed him. LOLLLL
That majority in the senate is looking reall slimm and if a democrat won in ALABAMA it's looking pretty grim for the red hat republicans next year trump is out democrat majority here we come WWOooooooohooo

ROllllll Tide baby  ayyyyyyyyyyyyy  Tired of winning yet? LOLLLLLLL  not even close babyyyyyyyyyyyyyy not even close WOOOOOOOO take this loss one more rapist/ child molester to take down in the white hous

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by T And T Garage on 12/12/17 at 20:13:33


0E3C3B2A2D3C2B14382B32590 wrote:
Thank God this Senate race is over.



Hey.... who won?  Why?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by T And T Garage on 12/12/17 at 20:14:07


7179762C2B28180 wrote:
AAAAhhhhhhh roy moore lost too bad Trump couldn't save his child molester buddy lolll  moore and trump both like em younnggg thats why he backed him. LOLLLL
That majority in the senate is looking reall slimm and if a democrat won in ALABAMA it's looking pretty grim for the red hat republicans next year trump is out democrat majority here we come WWOooooooohooo

ROllllll Tide baby  ayyyyyyyyyyyyy  Tired of winning yet? LOLLLLLLL  not even close babyyyyyyyyyyyyyy not even close WOOOOOOOO take this loss one more rapist/ child molester to take down in the white hous



LOL - nice!!!

+100

Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/12/17 at 20:23:51

The same people who have supported Ted Kennedy, and shielded Bill Clinton, who most assuredly is a rapist , now gets a blood rush seeing someone ACCUSED get screwed.
Who's surprised?

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