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Message started by WebsterMark on 11/12/17 at 05:52:36

Title: China / North Korea and USA
Post by WebsterMark on 11/12/17 at 05:52:36

Read an interesting comment this morning. Imagine you're the crazy short, fat Rocket Man dictator of North Korea and just watched your benefactor, China, play golf and be all chummy for a few days with Trump. How do you respond?

Title: Re: China / North Korea and USA
Post by Serowbot on 11/12/17 at 09:11:22

Ego maniacal, narcissists should not be allowed play with WMD's...

This lesson may be in future history books ...  

Title: Re: China / North Korea and USA
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/12/17 at 09:19:15

Another grand ANALysis by the well informed.

Title: Re: China / North Korea and USA
Post by Serowbot on 11/12/17 at 09:52:06


3C2325223F3809390931232F64560 wrote:
Another grand ANALysis by the well informed.

With accompanying drive-by from the foil-hat Confucius...

Title: Re: China / North Korea and USA
Post by raydawg on 11/12/17 at 10:25:23


392F38253D28253E4A0 wrote:
[quote author=3C2325223F3809390931232F64560 link=1510494756/0#2 date=1510507155]Another grand ANALysis by the well informed.

With accompanying drive-by from the foil-hat Confucius... [/quote]

Why not try challenging yourself?
Your witness, to your beliefs, seem to me that it is only delivering unhappiness, and a miserable life existence.

Shouldn't real joy be what we see, in you, above what the headlines and opposing views can ruin?

Will you fight life, till you die?

If yours is true, why not offer it with love, instead of scorn? 

That seems so sad, I'm sorry.

Title: Re: China / North Korea and USA
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/12/17 at 15:53:23


2137203D25303D26520 wrote:
[quote author=3C2325223F3809390931232F64560 link=1510494756/0#2 date=1510507155]Another grand ANALysis by the well informed.

With accompanying drive-by from the foil-hat Confucius... [/quote]

You talk big.
Care to challenge me?
Can you use reason to make me wrong?
Let's start with the logical disconnect between destroying a society and Calling it a
Humanitarian Mission.
Wouldn't you like help like that?

Title: Re: China / North Korea and USA
Post by T And T Garage on 11/12/17 at 18:09:35


4D7F78696E7F68577B68711A0 wrote:
Read an interesting comment this morning. Imagine you're the crazy short, fat Rocket Man dictator of North Korea and just watched your benefactor, China, play golf and be all chummy for a few days with Trump. How do you respond?



Hmmm... well, you could be like our idiot president and post some stupid put down....

Donald J. Trump [ch10004]@realDonaldTrump
Why would Kim Jong-un insult me by calling me "old," when I would NEVER call him "short and fat?" Oh well, I try so hard to be his friend - and maybe someday that will happen!

Our president is a joke and has no idea what he's doing.

Title: Re: China / North Korea and USA
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/12/17 at 18:22:40

Blah blah blah,blah de Blah blah blah..

Title: Re: China / North Korea and USA
Post by WebsterMark on 11/13/17 at 05:32:42

What happens when a new, 3rd party comes into an established relationship between two parties when one of those two is clearly the alpha and the other the follower AND the new 3rd party is equal to or higher than the alpha from the original two party relationship? Think about your school and work relationships. Think about business situations just like this.

What will that follower from the original two party relationship do in order to gain favor back from his alpha?

Title: Re: China / North Korea and USA
Post by MnSpring on 11/13/17 at 08:48:36

That comes down to, ‘education’.
And the Purposely, ‘dumbing Down of America’.
Shows, that, (Especially the the ANTIFA  Ideals  Supporters),
did not have any, ’teaching’,  
     or has any experience, with, ‘Business’,
       or has not, ‘observed’, Kids, Students, co-workers,
       or any domestic/wild mammals, in and out of their environment.
and understand,  the interaction  of, ‘Alpha’, behavior.
       

Title: Re: China / North Korea and USA
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/13/17 at 09:33:08


675552434455427D51425B300 wrote:
What happens when a new, 3rd party comes into an established relationship between two parties when one of those two is clearly the alpha and the other the follower AND the new 3rd party is equal to or higher than the alpha from the original two party relationship? Think about your school and work relationships. Think about business situations just like this.

What will that follower from the original two party relationship do in order to gain favor back from his alpha?



Interesting dynamic to consider.

Title: Re: China / North Korea and USA
Post by WebsterMark on 11/13/17 at 10:51:42

Fat, short Rocket Man is in danger of being left behind. What does he do in response?

Title: Re: China / North Korea and USA
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/13/17 at 10:59:21

I don't think NK is a real danger.
Getting everyone to Believe they are is a way to sell weapons and gin up fear.
Who Really believes Kim wants to get bombed into oblivion? And wouldn't a strike against anyone result in exactly that? This whole soap opera is a load of BULLSHIT

Title: Re: China / North Korea and USA
Post by raydawg on 11/13/17 at 13:27:35

Yeah, I don't buy the threat either....

Pretty much the same folk pushing the same fears, and repairs.

I do believe China will consume them into their fold.
Trump knows this too.

A economically linked China and America is the best we can hope for.

Title: Re: China / North Korea and USA
Post by eau de sauvage on 11/14/17 at 00:50:33


6D5F58494E5F48775B48513A0 wrote:
Read an interesting comment this morning. Imagine you're the crazy short, fat Rocket Man dictator of North Korea and just watched your benefactor, China, play golf and be all chummy for a few days with Trump. How do you respond?


I'm sure that N Korea understand that China is playing Trump like a skin flute. Remember all the tough China talk at the beginning of his presidency...

https://youtu.be/vVtphAUDtEY?t=3m

Title: Re: China / North Korea and USA
Post by WebsterMark on 11/14/17 at 05:49:00

That seems pretty far fetched. You're too infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome; it's taken over your mind and you can't think straight.

There's a very old expression: If you owe the bank $100, that's your problem. If you owe the bank $100 million, that's the bank's problem.

Scale that up to billions and you're on the right track. The USA is a far more important to China than North Korea. In fact, I'm sure if China  had one wish it would be for North Korea to disappear.  

Let's watch closely the next few weeks for signs China is either putting the squeeze on NK or withdrawing to one degree or another, the support they provide. On the other hand, China probably doesn't want Russia to swoop in and become NK's new best friend. It's a delicate balancing act.  

Title: Re: China / North Korea and USA
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/14/17 at 08:40:36

China doesn't want to see a war in their back yard.

Title: Re: China / North Korea and USA
Post by WebsterMark on 11/14/17 at 09:01:12

No they don't and I think they'll go to extremes to stop it. A booming US economy is of great interest to the Chinese economy. This is a new position the US finds itself in (thanks liberals, Obama) and that is to be in 2nd place. However, that has its advantages.

Title: Re: China / North Korea and USA
Post by T And T Garage on 11/14/17 at 12:47:54


6A585F4E49584F705C4F563D0 wrote:
No they don't and I think they'll go to extremes to stop it. A booming US economy is of great interest to the Chinese economy. This is a new position the US finds itself in (thanks liberals, Obama) and that is to be in 2nd place. However, that has its advantages.


Huh?  I hate to break it to you (actually, no I don't), but the GOP has been in control of this country for the better part of the last 8 years.

Or, are you saying that it was the democrats that hold records for the most filibusters?  Or was it the democrats who held the country hostage over a debt ceiling increase?  Etc... etc.... etc....

Title: Re: China / North Korea and USA
Post by verslagen1 on 11/14/17 at 14:12:26


213F30313C213A27550 wrote:
[quote author=6A585F4E49584F705C4F563D0 link=1510494756/15#17 date=1510678872]No they don't and I think they'll go to extremes to stop it. A booming US economy is of great interest to the Chinese economy. This is a new position the US finds itself in (thanks liberals, Obama) and that is to be in 2nd place. However, that has its advantages.


Huh?  I hate to break it to you (actually, no I don't), but the GOP has been in control of this country for the better part of the last 8 years.

Or, are you saying that it was the democrats that hold records for the most filibusters?  Or was it the democrats who held the country hostage over a debt ceiling increase?  Etc... etc.... etc....[/quote]
And it certainly wasn't a president writing exec orders or vetoing anything.

Title: Re: China / North Korea and USA
Post by T And T Garage on 11/14/17 at 14:31:38


3D2E3938272A2C2E257A4B0 wrote:
[quote author=213F30313C213A27550 link=1510494756/15#18 date=1510692474][quote author=6A585F4E49584F705C4F563D0 link=1510494756/15#17 date=1510678872]No they don't and I think they'll go to extremes to stop it. A booming US economy is of great interest to the Chinese economy. This is a new position the US finds itself in (thanks liberals, Obama) and that is to be in 2nd place. However, that has its advantages.


Huh?  I hate to break it to you (actually, no I don't), but the GOP has been in control of this country for the better part of the last 8 years.

Or, are you saying that it was the democrats that hold records for the most filibusters?  Or was it the democrats who held the country hostage over a debt ceiling increase?  Etc... etc.... etc....[/quote]
And it certainly wasn't a president writing exec orders or vetoing anything.[/quote]

You're right, it wasn't.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Title: Re: China / North Korea and USA
Post by WebsterMark on 11/15/17 at 04:57:28

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/15/world/asia/china-north-korea-nuclear-envoy.html

That would be an interesting fly on the wall meeting.

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