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Title: So It Begins.... Post by T And T Garage on 10/30/17 at 08:08:18 Well, well, well... Christmas came early this year! Looks like the tip of the iceberg has manafort sitting on top of it. Take a nice long read of all the counts (some nasty stuff in there): http://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download Contrary to what web posted, these charges are dated up to and including 2017. (See page 23 of the above link - count one). Gee... I wonder what little paulie will say/do now? Now that he is FUUUUUUCCCKKKKED!!!! ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by T And T Garage on 10/30/17 at 08:13:06 What's even funnier are the responses from our president: Never seen such Republican ANGER & UNITY as I have concerning the lack of investigation on Clinton made Fake Dossier (now $12,000,000?),.... 8:53 AM - Oct 29, 2017 ...the Uranium to Russia deal, the 33,000 plus deleted Emails, the Comey fix and so much more. Instead they look at phony Trump/Russia,.... 9:02 AM - Oct 29, 2017 ..."collusion," which doesn't exist. The Dems are using this terrible (and bad for our country) Witch Hunt for evil politics, but the R's... 9:09 AM - Oct 29, 2017 ...are now fighting back like never before. There is so much GUILT by Democrats/Clinton, and now the facts are pouring out. DO SOMETHING! 9:17 AM - Oct 29, 2017 All of this "Russia" talk right when the Republicans are making their big push for historic Tax Cuts & Reform. Is this coincidental? NOT! 9:48 AM - Oct 29, 2017 Report out that Obama Campaign paid $972,000 to Fusion GPS. The firm also got $12,400,000 (really?) from DNC. Nobody knows who OK'd! 6:37 AM - Oct 30, 2017 ;D ;D ;D Like I said.... tip of the iceberg. Our "wonderful" president is in full panic mode and it's HILARIOUS to watch. I'm sure all you tweety defenders just LOVE him governing via twitter, huh?!? ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by WebsterMark on 10/30/17 at 08:38:31 504E41404D504B56240 wrote:
and if you read pg23 as well as the rest, you'd know the dates listed are "approximate and inclusive" which is a commonly used term in legal investigation documents. 2005 because that's the earliest date they uncovered possible crimes and 2017 because that's the current year we're in. |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/30/17 at 09:02:09 Funny how Comey straight up explained how illegal Hillary's actions were, and then No charges. And just as the dossier is tied back to her Charges against a bub. Not saying he didn't have it coming. Just saying Looks like prosecuting a jaywalker while turning a blind eye to a murderer. Didn't say he's a jaywalker Didn't say she's a murderer It's a hyperbolic comparison Which, due to the grasp of the readers must be clarified. |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by T And T Garage on 10/30/17 at 09:11:19 6B595E4F48594E715D4E573C0 wrote:
and if you read pg23 as well as the rest, you'd know the dates listed are "approximate and inclusive" which is a commonly used term in legal investigation documents. 2005 because that's the earliest date they uncovered possible crimes and 2017 because that's the current year we're in. [/quote] Don't forget count 12....... |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by WebsterMark on 10/30/17 at 09:15:08 If Manafort is guilty of 1/2 that's in the indictment, he should be toast. The Dems and Libs shouldn't be too giddy.... This indictment has nothing to do with Trump which very well could mean nothing was found related to Trump, but they did find other illegal activities and they are chasing those down under the guise they relate to their original investigative topic which turns this into Pandora's Box. Should Trump have ever hired Manafort? seems obvious the answer is no. However, was the FBI already aware of Manafort's potential activities? I'll bet the answer to that question is yes. And if so, did they tell Trump his campaign chairman was under suspicion? |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by raydawg on 10/30/17 at 09:15:26 Me thinks the bar was just lowered....... Drain baby drain ;D Lots of I don't remember, I don't know, and give me a 5th, and I'll take the 5th.....coming in DC .LOL! Drain baby drain!!!!! This is like Hollywood, and Harvey, ALL who knew about Hollywood guys puzzing grabbing on chicks, and not talking up are just as guilty themselves. Seems its always about money and power, has brought folks to ruin. Gonna be a lot of scum on the bottom of these ponds!!!!! LOVE IT..... Who is next ;D |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by WebsterMark on 10/30/17 at 09:20:52 Count 12 covers the fact that they lied in their statements made to the department of justice on two dates, 11/23/16 and 2/10/17. What's your point? |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/30/17 at 09:23:22 Hillary breathes a sigh of relief knowing She hasn't lied . |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by raydawg on 10/30/17 at 09:23:28 043631202736211E322138530 wrote:
Lying.......OH NO ;D GAWD, I am giddy, sorry..... I just am glimpsing folks in DC booking flights to the hither-lands. This is a major win for the deplorable! |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by T And T Garage on 10/30/17 at 09:25:32 0F3D3A2B2C3D2A15392A33580 wrote:
Point is, these are not all from "long ago"... Further, this is only the first - and boy oh boy, is it JUICY!! |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/30/17 at 09:25:45 Yeah, Trump is the bad guy. Libya |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by WebsterMark on 10/30/17 at 09:40:20 4B555A5B564B504D3F0 wrote:
Point is, these are not all from "long ago"... Further, this is only the first - and boy oh boy, is it JUICY!![/quote] He was lying about events from the past during an interview with the FBI which occurred on those dates. The date of the actions are relevant, not the date of the interview. |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by T And T Garage on 10/30/17 at 10:18:24 1E2C2B3A3D2C3B04283B22490 wrote:
Point is, these are not all from "long ago"... Further, this is only the first - and boy oh boy, is it JUICY!![/quote] He was lying about events from the past during an interview with the FBI which occurred on those dates. The date of the actions are relevant, not the date of the interview. [/quote] Dude, really? What are you trying to defend? Our president was dumb enough to hire this traitor. Whether or not he knew is moot. Either way it shows the incompetence of our president. And like I said - this only the beginning. |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/30/17 at 10:21:30 Flush them all. Don't miss Hillary. |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by raydawg on 10/30/17 at 10:51:53 392620273A3D0C3C0C34262A61530 wrote:
Call the plumber...... That is sure to plug ;D |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by WebsterMark on 10/30/17 at 11:40:23 Dude, really? What are you trying to defend? Our president was dumb enough to hire this traitor. Whether or not he knew is moot. Either way it shows the incompetence of our president. I am not defending Trump in this case nor am I arguing about his competency. I am however pointing out how completely incompetent you are at analyzing a document. You read a couple of dates and assumed they could be tied to trumps presidency when they have nothing to do with that. you should probably just stick to cutting and pasting other people's comments instead of trying to write your own. |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by raydawg on 10/30/17 at 11:49:01 407275646372655A76657C170 wrote:
Now that is funny...... ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by T And T Garage on 10/30/17 at 11:49:46 596B6C7D7A6B7C436F7C650E0 wrote:
Huh? Seriously? Well lookie here: You read a couple of dates and assumed they could not be tied to tweety's presidency, even though they cover the time while they were working for his campaign. You see what I did there, hmm? Get over it. They guy you elected for president is beginning to unravel and you can't stand it. I love it. Thanks for playing. |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by WebsterMark on 10/30/17 at 12:27:39 7F6C74696C7A6A0D0 wrote:
Now that is funny...... ;D ;D ;D [/quote] The Cliff Notes for all you who don't want to waste your time like I unfortunately did is that TT tried reading a document on his own and put his comprehension skills on full display. He read the dates of FBI interviews which occurred recently. The interview topics were regarding events that occurred in the past which the two under investigation lied about. Count 12 covers those false statements made during the interview which were recent, during Trump's term. So the mental giant saw the dates, squealed like a little girl thinking this was proof Trump was involved. Anyone with a brain reading the indictment understood the dates of the interview have no significance to Trump. Just another reminder why I should ignore TT.... It's one thing to be annoying, childish etc, it's another thing to be like that when you're not very bright. |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by T And T Garage on 10/30/17 at 12:47:19 4C7E79686F7E69567A69701B0 wrote:
Wow - well done web... but what, no pm this time? LMAO!! Well, you go right ahead and say what you like - oh, but you may want to also read count 11. It's just a little thing regarding "False and Misleading FARA Statements". Yeah, I'm sure it's nothing, right? Anyhoo - the count lists "On or about November 23, 2016 and February 10, 2017, within the District of Columbia and elsewhere, the defendants PAUL J. MANAFORT, JR., and RICHARD W. GATES III knowingly and willfully caused to be made a false statement of a material fact, and omitted a material fact necessary to make the statements therein not misleading, in a document filed with and furnished to the Attorney General under the provisions of FARA, to wit the underlined statements:" I won't list the statements - you should and look for yourself. Now, contrary to your "stellar" rebuttal, nowhere have I ever said that our president was directly involved, have I? In fact, I said he probably didn't know that there was (allegedly) illegal activities going on in his own campaign. You see web, like you, he's to ignorant to know what's legal and what's not. However, that also doesn't make him innocent. So, you go right on ahead calling me a "little girl" who's squealing at the news. That's nothing compared to the squealing that paulie's gonna do on the entire, pathetic excuse of a presidential cabinet. He's going for a plea deal and just wait to see how he sings! Maybe someday you'll admit that your vote for tweety was a mistake, hmm? Naw, that'll never happen... ;D ;D ;D Now you run along and ignore me. You've done a great job up until now, huh?? ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by T And T Garage on 10/30/17 at 12:58:28 Look - even more juicy tidbits of tweety's "stellar" campaign: A former Donald Trump campaign adviser was secretly arrested in July and has pleaded guilty to charges of lying to the FBI about contacts with Russia during the 2016 campaign, according to court documents unsealed by special counsel Robert Mueller on Monday. The former Trump foreign policy adviser, George Papadopoulos, admitted to making “numerous” false statements to the FBI about his repeated efforts to arrange an “off the record” meeting between Trump campaign officials and Russian President Vladimir Putin’s office. He is now cooperating with Mueller’s investigation, according to the unsealed court records. http://www.yahoo.com/news/mueller-discloses-trump-campaign-aide-pled-guilty-lying-russian-contacts-181302597.html Yeah, but this probably fake news, huh tweety lovers? ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by WebsterMark on 10/30/17 at 13:12:07 Anyhoo - the count lists "On or about November 23, 2016 and February 10, 2017, within the District of Columbia and elsewhere, the defendants PAUL J. MANAFORT, JR., and RICHARD W. GATES III knowingly and willfully caused to be made a false statement of a material fact, and omitted a material fact necessary to make the statements therein not misleading, in a document filed with and furnished to the Attorney General under the provisions of FARA, to wit the underlined statements:" You are mind numbingly ignorant.... They made statements on those dates that were false. The topics of the statements were done at some point in the past, not on those two dates. Get it? |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by WebsterMark on 10/30/17 at 13:16:55 and now I'm going to go back to ignoring you because you're just too stupid to bother with until such time as you post a particularly stupid comment that wakes me like Excalibur! |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by T And T Garage on 10/30/17 at 14:09:17 6D5F58494E5F48775B48513A0 wrote:
Um, DOCUMENT.... "in a document filed with and furnished to the Attorney General under the provisions of FARA" So... wanna retract, einstein? |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by T And T Garage on 10/30/17 at 14:10:34 063433222534231C30233A510 wrote:
Oh no..... me so sad...... Bye web - I look forward to your next, outrage laden pm! ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by WebsterMark on 10/30/17 at 14:16:01 667877767B667D60120 wrote:
Um, DOCUMENT.... "in a document filed with and furnished to the Attorney General under the provisions of FARA" So... wanna retract, einstein? [/quote] Sorry, but you've freed Excalibur for a minute. Really? Are you that dumb? Do you read what you cut and paste? Try to read each word slowly and then picture in your head (probably in crayons) what occurred. Okay, Excalibur going back to sleep for a while. Please don't be so stupid as to wake me again. |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by T And T Garage on 10/30/17 at 14:28:19 0B393E2F28392E113D2E375C0 wrote:
Um, DOCUMENT.... "in a document filed with and furnished to the Attorney General under the provisions of FARA" So... wanna retract, einstein? [/quote] Sorry, but you've freed Excalibur for a minute. Really? Are you that dumb? Do you read what you cut and paste? Try to read each word slowly and then picture in your head (probably in crayons) what occurred. Okay, Excalibur going back to sleep for a while. Please don't be so stupid as to wake me again. [/quote] Seems you're the one that needs comprehension class web. They LIED ON DOCUMENTS THEY SUPPLIED TO THE DOJ. (what's that called again?....) I put that in caps so you might actually see it.... Would like me to list the entire count? Do you need someone to read it to you? So, again I ask - care to retract? |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by T And T Garage on 10/31/17 at 08:48:22 Oh, and even more from the indictments: From paulie and dickie's: 38. From in or about and between 2006 and 2017, both dates being approximate and inclusive, in the District of Columbia and elsewhere, the defendants PAUL J. MANAFORT, JR., and RICHARD W. GATES III, together with others, knowingly and intentionally conspired to defraud the United States by impeding, impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful governmental functions of a government agency, namely the Department of Justice and the Department of the Treasury, and to commit offenses against the United States, to wit, the violations of law charged in Counts Three through Six and Ten through Twelve. Notice what I highlighted? :) From papadopolous': 14. On or about April 26, 2016, defendant PAPADOPOULOS met the Professor for breakfast at a London hotel. During this meeting, the Professor told defendant PAPADOPOULOS that he had just returned from a trip to Moscow where he had met with high level Russian government officials. The Professor told defendant PAPADOPOULOS that on that trip he (the Professor) learned that the Russians had obtained "dirt" on then-candidate Clinton. The Professor told defendant PAPADOPOULOS, as defendant PAPADOPOULOS later described to the FBI, that "They [the Russians] have dirt on her"; "the Russians had emails of Clinton"; "they have thousands of emails." Notice what I highlighted? :) Now, I know this is just a cut and paste post, but there seems to be a wealth of ignorance on these charges in this little forum. I'm just trying to help out those who are less fortunate.... Mmmmmmm.... this tastes soooooo good!!!! |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by MnSpring on 10/31/17 at 09:51:56 The Words. So Artfully Crafted. So, Politically Correct. “…knowingly and willfully, caused to be made a false statement of a material fact, and omitted a material fact necessary to make the statements therein not misleading …” Let me interpret for you, In Real, ’Speak’. ‘Lied, about the facts, and Lied, by omission of facts.’ Now where have I seen that done before ? Could it possibly be, Here, ??? Could it possibly be a, ANTIFA Ideals Supporter, Na, can’t be, ‘Real’ ! |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/01/17 at 02:22:02 And what have those things got to do with the election? Not a thing. |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by WebsterMark on 11/01/17 at 10:42:14 Jog, maybe you were right. Maybe McCain had a lot to do with this in the beginning. "Day Seven: John McCain Continues to Dodge Questions on Role in Trump Hoax Dossier" |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by T And T Garage on 11/01/17 at 13:20:21 536166777061764965766F040 wrote:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Too funny! |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/01/17 at 15:07:23 The lack of objectivity screams Hate. McCain is guilty of so much, from abandoning MIAs to working to undermine the president. Your unwillingness to see it defines you. |
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Title: Re: So It Begins.... Post by Serowbot on 11/01/17 at 16:50:22 Go McCain!....Woo woo woo!... ;D |
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