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Message started by T And T Garage on 10/19/17 at 08:03:15

Title: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by T And T Garage on 10/19/17 at 08:03:15

Nearly 50% of Americans polled, think that the media is fabricating news about our president.

We're NOT talking about slant/bias/context error - we're talking about making $hit up.  People think that the media is actually making stuff up about tweety.  

Fabrication.  Something wholly untrue.  Nearly 50%!  I'd like to know where they see that.  I'd like to see a wholly made up story about our "dear" leader.

Did the media make up his tweets?  Did they fabricate his voice saying "grab them by the pu$$y"?  Did they fabricate his poll numbers?  Did they fabricate the election results?  Did they fabricate that he will never make his taxes public?

Remember, we're talking fabrication, NOT commentary.  AND, we're talking about the media, NOT entertainers.  

Commentary is no different than what tweety himself did to Obama with the birther issue - or any number of repubs saying he's a Muslim.  Yeah, the media reported the accusations, and hanity and the like commented on it, but it was never substantiated or endorsed by the media.  

Fabrication is a whole different ballgame.  This country has to pull its head out of its rear end and look at EVERYTHING with a clear head.  The fact that we have a moron in office who can't stop tweeting and pointing the spotlight at himself is killing us.  Whenever he gets criticized, he calls "fake news".  But it's not fake - it's just news he doesn't like.

Real fake news would reporting that he doesn't tweet too much or that he never bankrupted more than one casino...

Further, a scary amount of those polled think it's OK for an administration to pull licenses of networks that they deem as "liars".

This is a dark, scary path.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPmInG67gyw[/media]

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by raydawg on 10/19/17 at 08:42:14

News has been slanted for a long time......
Welcome to reality.

When the news figgered out they can become the news, and PROFIT......

Remember, some folk around here claim its the money, in politics, that is the problem......
Well, except when the money is buying and supporting their beliefs, its not a problem, then.

next.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by T And T Garage on 10/19/17 at 09:09:03


31223A27223424430 wrote:
News has been slanted for a long time......
Welcome to reality.

Slant is NOT fabrication.  You should know the difference.

When the news figgered out they can become the news, and PROFIT......

Again - NOT fabrication.  Our president brought up CNN in his campaign and never stopped. He made them news when he called them fake.

Remember, some folk around here claim its the money, in politics, that is the problem......

Yes, it is.  You see, the same multinationals that own the networks, own the politicians - ON BOTH SIDES.

Well, except when the money is buying and supporting their beliefs, its not a problem, then.

No, afraid not ray.  I don't want the likes of soros or the kochs in my politics.

next.


- next, you should look at what other damage is being done by this idiot of a president.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by raydawg on 10/19/17 at 09:42:09

Slant is NOT fabrication.  You should know the difference.

Yeah, you can be sorta pregnant........

Put chocolate syrup, whip cream, on a pile of dung, and call it a sunday..... fool.

Useless, again.

My bad.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by T And T Garage on 10/19/17 at 09:51:30


6A79617C796F7F180 wrote:
Slant is NOT fabrication.  You should know the difference.

Yeah, you can be sorta pregnant........

No, you can't.  That's my whole point.  smh

Put chocolate syrup, whip cream, on a pile of dung, and call it a sunday..... fool.

That is COMMENTARY.  I can call a car a piece of cr@p.
It's MY COMMENT, not fact.  
A person making up a story from scratch -
oh, I dunno, like saying they're worth millions when they're not - THAT is fabrication.  Don't you know the difference??

Useless, again.

My bad.


So my take away from this is that you think fabrication is the same as slant - please tell me I'm wrong.

If you do think that, then look in the mirror at why our country is so divided.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by MnSpring on 10/19/17 at 13:10:50

   It’s MY COMMENT

If  CNN/Yahoo,  (and the like), ’news’, places.
gave a ’story’, which they call, ’news’,
Took words out of, ‘context’,  put their, ’spin’ on it.
And called it, ’News’.   It is ‘fabricating’.

If the above, ’news’, companies,
     did the above,
and, BEFORE,  they said those, words,
      (out of context, and spun)
They announce:  “Here is our, Editorial/Slant/Spin”
       Then, it would be their, ‘COMMENT’.

If they, (took words out of context, spun/slant them)
Full well  KNOWING, without the, ‘disclaimer’,
 “This is their, Opinion/Comment”
 Many people, would believe that information, as, ’news’.
      So it’s pure  ‘fabrication’.

 (Or in, NON,  ‘Politically Correct Speak’,  it is  LYING)


Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by MShipley on 10/19/17 at 13:23:54

So what's new

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by raydawg on 10/19/17 at 14:07:07

Political Correctness is responsible for the mess we are currently experiencing.
Folks could have dialogued without the threat of repercussions.
Understandings could have been the result.
When you put a lid on it and turn up the heat, you are stupid to think it won't explode eventually.....
I guess the liberals thought they would always be in control.
Kinda explains Harry Reid actions.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/19/17 at 15:01:12

P.C., the verbal and ideological equivalent of
Price Controls.
Never ends well.
P.C is tyranny.
And stupid.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by MShipley on 10/19/17 at 15:08:58

TT....you are right it is scary, but it did not start with Trump this has been going on and building for years. Both sides are guilty. I read an article the other day buy the left calling for a military coup to take Trump out of office.....thats treason....you can be hanged....but what is amazing is these people are serious......your right that everyone needs to stop and catch a breath but that means everyone and I have never heard you do anything but insult Trump fueling the hate that you say needs to stop.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by Serowbot on 10/19/17 at 16:46:28


706E55544D5158443D0 wrote:
I have never heard you do anything but insult Trump fueling the hate that you say needs to stop.

The bigger question is,.. have you ever heard Trump do anything but insult everyone that doesn't go along with him?...
I would  hope you hold the President of the free world to a little higher standard than a handful of shmows on a bike site...
I do... :-?

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/19/17 at 16:56:55

If the media does not want to be seen as liars, they need to stop Being liars.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by raydawg on 10/19/17 at 17:09:52


6C7A6D70687D706B1F0 wrote:
[quote author=706E55544D5158443D0 link=1508425395/0#9 date=1508450938]I have never heard you do anything but insult Trump fueling the hate that you say needs to stop.

The bigger question is,.. have you ever heard Trump do anything but insult everyone that doesn't go along with him?...
I would  hope you hold the President of the free world to a little higher standard than a handful of shmows on a bike site...
I do... :-?[/quote]

Never seemed to bother you when a democrat is in office....

Free world......that's a joke, right  ;D

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by MnSpring on 10/19/17 at 17:22:13

have you ever heard Trump do anything but insult everyone that doesn’t go along with him?

Yet, here, on this site,  (a handful of shmows),  
Threatening someone, (…or, do want me to make you?…)

Or saying, ‘Orange’, ’Small Hands’, ‘he is toxic... incompetent… and corrupt..."
  (And the list goes, ON, and ON, and ON, and ON, and ON …..

because someone does Not,  agree, with a  opinion, is,
          ‘Different’  
                     HOW ?

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/19/17 at 17:32:06

Obama was plenty insulting, he just did it differently.
No?
BULLSHIT
You know those times when you squealed gleefully because he put everyone who didn't agree with him in their place?
He's an arrogant prikk.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by MnSpring on 10/19/17 at 18:32:15


71627A67627464030 wrote:
Political Correctness is responsible for the mess we are currently experiencing.  Folks could have dialogued without the threat of repercussions.   Understandings could have been the result.
When you put a lid on it and turn up the heat, you are stupid to think it won't explode eventually.....  I guess the liberals thought they would always be in control.   Kinda explains Harry Reid actions.

"...Political Correctness is responsible for the mess we are currently experiencing..."

Why I believe, P.C. ’talk’,
has ’Reduced, the Ethics, Values, Morals, of this country.

The word,  LIER,  vs,  ‘Adjusted the Truth’.

Johnny comes home from grade school with a black eye.
“What Happened’  his mother asks.
Johnny:  “I Fell off the Swing”.
Phone rings, it is his teacher. Tells MOM, "Johnny got into a fight on the playground’.
Dad comes home, Mom says: “Johnny  LIED, to me, about how he got that black eye”
  (Insert appropriate punishment here)
Johnny, ‘LEARNED”,   Lying, is a Bad thing.

The, ’new’ way, (Mom to Dad),
“Johnny,  ‘’Adjusted the Truth’, about his black eye”.
    (Johnny  gets  Ice cream and Cookies)
What did, Johnny, learn ?

Drug Dealer =  Unlicensed Pharmacist.
Thief = Borrowed, others property.
Racism is =  (Oh Wait, that’s right, only the race, can say another race, is, racist, against them. Because the other race, is not allowed to say, the other, race, is Raciest , against them)

(And the list can go ON and ON, and ON, and ON !

Point is,  Remove  the, ‘Fairy Dust Sprinkling’, idea, of  P.C. Correct
     (It will take a generation)

Then, This, Nation, can get back to,  VALUES,  
which are what,  BUILT,  this  Nation.

Now, it is,  ‘Lying,  Cheating, Steeling’, etc.
     Is, Perfectly All Right.
Especially if you are in high places, and have Others, to,  LIE,  CHEAT, STEEL, For/With, you.



Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by T And T Garage on 10/19/17 at 19:02:50


31223A27223424430 wrote:
Political Correctness is responsible for the mess we are currently experiencing.

PC - seriously? What does that even mean in your world??  What, you wanna be able to call women "dames", black people the n-word, handicapped kids retarded?

PC is just being civil to each other.  A dialog shouldn't have to resort to name calling and hollow rhetoric.

Folks could have dialogued without the threat of repercussions.
Understandings could have been the result.

Understanding what??

When you put a lid on it and turn up the heat, you are stupid to think it won't explode eventually.....

A lid on what, civility??  What the heck are you talking about??

I guess the liberals thought they would always be in control.
Kinda explains Harry Reid actions.


No ray - you thought that...  you're the only one saying it.

The fact is, this country skews center LEFT.  People want the government to stick to their promises, not get handouts from it.  Americans, as a whole, are tired of who we have representing us.  Getting money out of politics polls at nearly 90%.

It's not PC ray - it's ignorance that's got use here.


po·lit·i·cal cor·rect·ness
p[ch601][ch712]lid[ch601]k[ch601]l k[ch601][ch712]rek(t)n[ch601]s

noun

the avoidance, often considered as taken to extremes, of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by T And T Garage on 10/19/17 at 19:20:15


504E75746D7178641D0 wrote:
TT....you are right it is scary, but it did not start with Trump this has been going on and building for years. Both sides are guilty. I read an article the other day buy the left calling for a military coup to take Trump out of office.....thats treason....you can be hanged....but what is amazing is these people are serious......

And there were members of the tea party wanting to do the exact same thing with Obama.

your right that everyone needs to stop and catch a breath but that means everyone and I have never heard you do anything but insult Trump fueling the hate that you say needs to stop.


Sorry you feel that way.  But I'm with the majority of the country that thinks he's doing a terrible job as president.  He's degraded the office.  From his bankrupt casinos, to his pu$$y grabbing, to mocking a handicapped reporter, to chanting "lock her up", to telling his audience to "throw that guy out", to not releasing his taxes, to lying about being wire tapped, to his terrible cabinet picks, to his endless tweeting, to his third wife who did soft core porn, to pushing his way to the front in a photo op with other world leaders, to the lack of respect he's brought to his position... and the list goes on.

Think about it - how can a president, sitting on an economy this good, be this unpopular?  Why is the 25th Amendment being brought up so often by members of Congress?  Why is the Muller investigation still going on?

Yeah, I get it - it's not all our president's fault.  He just happens to be the culmination of our stupidity as a country.

We got the president we deserved.  And now we're paying for it.

But the first step in solving a problem is admitting that you have one.  We do.
 Our president is not fit for office.  Once he is removed, the country can begin to heal.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by raydawg on 10/20/17 at 00:43:27

As bad as he is, at least we don't have Hillary, thank gawd....

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by MShipley on 10/20/17 at 04:08:41

So TT you are saying it is Ok for you to spread descent because you feel you are justified in doing so. That my friend is the problem in this country.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by T And T Garage on 10/20/17 at 06:10:02


4C526968716D6478010 wrote:
So TT you are saying it is Ok for you to spread descent because you feel you are justified in doing so. That my friend is the problem in this country.


"Spread decent"?   ;D

No ship - look at what I listed.  Had Obama done a tenth of what our current president has done, there would have been calls for his head on a platter by the right - and you know it.

It's the duty of the country to amend its mistakes.  This president was a mistake.

You think for some reason, it's all about republicans - it's not.  I would have voted for Kasich over clinton in a heartbeat.  I hate the DNC and what they did to Sanders.  The establishment democrats should all be thrown out of office - along with the establishment repubs.

But this president transcends party - he's simply toxic.  No, it's not because he's an "outsider" - it's because he's an idiot.   He's a con-man who's only concern is popularity and money.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm not wrong in this.  Again, why is it we're hearing so much about the 25th Amendment?  Now, go ahead and say "the establishment wants him out, etc., etc." - but they're not the only ones.  Anyone looking at our president today can see that he's unfit for the job.  Just look at his "accomplishments" - nothing but EO and rollbacks of policy - ALL of which the establishment repubs have been behind.  He never help craft a bill.  He has zero knowledge of the Constitution.  He is simply a 71 year old boy.

This isn't "decent" - this is logic.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by MnSpring on 10/20/17 at 07:15:22

Yea it is, the Duty of a country, to get better.
       It is called,  ‘History’.

It is what the,  ‘CITIZENS’,  Voted for.
Ya know,  the, ‘Citizens’,
  those people that actually are, Citizens,
   That actually, pay  Taxes.

 Not the people in the densely packed urban areas,
who get their, FREE, lifestyle,
(with out ever having to pay, because they learned how to say,  Gimme, Gimme, Gimme)
and were told, ‘Go Vote’,
because it is, ’Secret’, how you voted,
and you have no fear of deportation.

As to ‘Correcting’,  Mistakes,
8 Years of Obama, everyone saw the Mistakes.
Just like the Mistakes, Carter made.

They have, (The  Citizens), Voted to, ‘correct them’.
     Let some, ’History’, occur.

Before, you throw out the baby,
        with the bathwater.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by MShipley on 10/20/17 at 08:37:05



Sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm not wrong in this.  

Of course not!


Someday Americans will wake up and realize that the President, (no matter whom it is), is not the problem nor the solution. You can get rid of Trump tomorrow, so what? The cancer that currently lives within western culture is still there. Your life will be no better except for the fact you will think you won, which in itself is just another lie.

There are no Saviors living amongst us.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by T And T Garage on 10/20/17 at 11:00:45


78665D5C4559504C350 wrote:
There are no Saviors living amongst us.


If you believe that, then you should pack up and move out of the Country.

I know that there are good and decent men and women out there serving their cities, communities and Country.

It's up to us - those that elect them to represent us - to boost them up and celebrate them.  Equally important is for us to fight against those that wish to oppress us - employing racism, fascism and the like to try and silence us.

Pointing out the failings of our Country, and helping to change it for the better, is one of the things that make it great.

I, for one, will never give up.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by T And T Garage on 10/20/17 at 11:08:19


6E7D65787D6B7B1C0 wrote:
As bad as he is, at least we don't have Hillary, thank gawd....


You know what I find funny?  Is that you said you used to be a democrat.

I don't buy it.  I think you're lying.  But I'm puzzled - why would you even say it?  Why bother?

Whatever, I don't expect an answer (except maybe a request to lick your taint or something other childish thing...)

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by MShipley on 10/20/17 at 11:17:54


554B444548554E53210 wrote:
[quote author=78665D5C4559504C350 link=1508425395/15#22 date=1508513825]


There are no Saviors living amongst us.


If you believe that, then you should pack up and move out of the Country.

I know that there are good and decent men and women out there serving their cities, communities and Country.

It's up to us - those that elect them to represent us - to boost them up and celebrate them.  Equally important is for us to fight against those that wish to oppress us - employing racism, fascism and the like to try and silence us.

Pointing out the failings of our Country, and helping to change it for the better, is one of the things that make it great.

I, for one, will never give up.[/quote]

That one slid right over your head.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by raydawg on 10/20/17 at 11:48:09


746A656469746F72000 wrote:
[quote author=6E7D65787D6B7B1C0 link=1508425395/15#18 date=1508485407]As bad as he is, at least we don't have Hillary, thank gawd....


You know what I find funny?  Is that you said you used to be a democrat.

I don't buy it.  I think you're lying.  But I'm puzzled - why would you even say it?  Why bother?

Whatever, I don't expect an answer (except maybe a request to lick your taint or something other childish thing...)
[/quote]

Yes, reality escapes you, we agree.
Keep trying punkin, all my kids fell after I took off their training wheels too.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by T And T Garage on 10/20/17 at 14:00:31


59477C7D6478716D140 wrote:
[quote author=554B444548554E53210 link=1508425395/15#23 date=1508522445][quote author=78665D5C4559504C350 link=1508425395/15#22 date=1508513825]


There are no Saviors living amongst us.


If you believe that, then you should pack up and move out of the Country.

I know that there are good and decent men and women out there serving their cities, communities and Country.

It's up to us - those that elect them to represent us - to boost them up and celebrate them.  Equally important is for us to fight against those that wish to oppress us - employing racism, fascism and the like to try and silence us.

Pointing out the failings of our Country, and helping to change it for the better, is one of the things that make it great.

I, for one, will never give up.[/quote]

That one slid right over your head.[/quote]


How so?

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by T And T Garage on 10/20/17 at 14:01:31


40534B56534555320 wrote:
[quote author=746A656469746F72000 link=1508425395/15#24 date=1508522899][quote author=6E7D65787D6B7B1C0 link=1508425395/15#18 date=1508485407]As bad as he is, at least we don't have Hillary, thank gawd....


You know what I find funny?  Is that you said you used to be a democrat.

I don't buy it.  I think you're lying.  But I'm puzzled - why would you even say it?  Why bother?

Whatever, I don't expect an answer (except maybe a request to lick your taint or something other childish thing...)
[/quote]

Yes, reality escapes you, we agree.
Keep trying punkin, all my kids fell after I took off their training wheels too.[/quote]

Huh?   :-?

You make no sense....

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by raydawg on 10/20/17 at 14:07:20

Get up.....

Try again, I got faith in you!

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by T And T Garage on 10/20/17 at 14:16:28


74677F62677161060 wrote:
Get up.....

Try again, I got faith in you!


Not sure what you mean by that.  What is it you're trying to say?

Can't you speak in cohesive sentences?

The more you post, the worse it gets.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by raydawg on 10/20/17 at 15:03:22

Why not answer the original question - what was your first post about?

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by pg on 10/20/17 at 15:22:57


3A242B2A273A213C4E0 wrote:
po·lit·i·cal cor·rect·ness
p[ch601][ch712]lid[ch601]k[ch601]l k[ch601][ch712]rek(t)n[ch601]s

noun

the avoidance, often considered as taken to extremes, of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against.



Actually that is incorrect.  Political correctness used in the modern form can best described as:  Taking the correct position on matters that involve politics.  

Do you know who was the first to use it as a political weapon?  Take a guess....

Best regards,

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by raydawg on 10/20/17 at 16:15:14

Political Correctness is akin to folks calling themselves followers of Christ, standing on the street corner, at a busy intersection, waving signs and yelling through a bullhorn, repent or go to hell.....  

Yeah, that works too  ::)

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by T And T Garage on 10/21/17 at 08:51:24


54475F42475141260 wrote:
Why not answer the original question - what was your first post about?


Um, seriously... are you drunk or something?

You're getting more moronic instead of less...

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by T And T Garage on 10/21/17 at 08:52:40


7166606C6373010 wrote:
[quote author=3A242B2A273A213C4E0 link=1508425395/15#16 date=1508464970]


po·lit·i·cal cor·rect·ness
p[ch601][ch712]lid[ch601]k[ch601]l k[ch601][ch712]rek(t)n[ch601]s

noun

the avoidance, often considered as taken to extremes, of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against.



Actually that is incorrect.  Political correctness used in the modern form can best described as:  Taking the correct position on matters that involve politics.  

Do you know who was the first to use it as a political weapon?  Take a guess....

Best regards,
[/quote]

No, it's not correct - what you post is your own definition that fits your purpose.

Typical right wing ignorance.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by T And T Garage on 10/21/17 at 08:54:14


24372F32372131560 wrote:
Political Correctness is akin to folks calling themselves followers of Christ, standing on the street corner, at a busy intersection, waving signs and yelling through a bullhorn, repent or go to hell.....  

Yeah, that works too  ::)


WTF?  That makes zero sense.

Seriously ray - do you have an illness?

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by pg on 10/21/17 at 14:29:10


786F69656A7A080 wrote:
[quote author=3A242B2A273A213C4E0 link=1508425395/15#16 date=1508464970]


po·lit·i·cal cor·rect·ness
p[ch601][ch712]lid[ch601]k[ch601]l k[ch601][ch712]rek(t)n[ch601]s

noun

the avoidance, often considered as taken to extremes, of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against.



Actually that is incorrect.  Political correctness used in the modern form can best described as:  Taking the correct position on matters that involve politics.  

Do you know who was the first to use it as a political weapon?  Take a guess....

Best regards,
[/quote]


You didn't answer my question, that would be Lev Bronstein or Leon Trotsky.   Interestingly enough it was a genuine communist who initiated the tactics you use to this very day.

Best regards,

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by T And T Garage on 10/23/17 at 06:47:57


2631373B3424560 wrote:
[quote author=786F69656A7A080 link=1508425395/30#32 date=1508538177][quote author=3A242B2A273A213C4E0 link=1508425395/15#16 date=1508464970]


po·lit·i·cal cor·rect·ness
p[ch601][ch712]lid[ch601]k[ch601]l k[ch601][ch712]rek(t)n[ch601]s

noun

the avoidance, often considered as taken to extremes, of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against.



Actually that is incorrect.  Political correctness used in the modern form can best described as:  Taking the correct position on matters that involve politics.  

Do you know who was the first to use it as a political weapon?  Take a guess....

Best regards,
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You didn't answer my question, that would be Lev Bronstein or Leon Trotsky.   Interestingly enough it was a genuine communist who initiated the tactics you use to this very day.

Best regards,[/quote]

;D

So you're saying that Trotsky was a communist?  You sure about that?  You may want to brush up on your history and see why he was ultimately assassinated and who ordered it...

Even ignoring your obvious oversight, what does this have to do with PC??

This is a stretch, even for you professional golfer....   ;D


Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by pg on 10/23/17 at 07:48:25


766867666B766D70020 wrote:
;D

So you're saying that Trotsky was a communist?  You sure about that?   ;D


Leon Trotsky (/[ch712]tr[ch594]tski/;[1][a] born Lev Davidovich Bronstein;[b] 7 November [O.S. 26 October] 1879 – 21 August 1940) was a Marxist revolutionary, theorist, and Soviet politician. Initially supporting the Menshevik Internationalists faction within the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party, he joined the Bolsheviks ("majority") just before the 1917 October Revolution, immediately becoming a leader within the Communist Party. He would go on to become one of the seven members of the first Politburo, founded in 1917 to manage the Bolshevik Revolution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Trotsky

;D

Best regards,

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by T And T Garage on 10/23/17 at 09:40:49


647375797666140 wrote:
[quote author=766867666B766D70020 link=1508425395/30#38 date=1508766477]
;D

So you're saying that Trotsky was a communist?  You sure about that?   ;D


Leon Trotsky (/[ch712]tr[ch594]tski/;[1][a] born Lev Davidovich Bronstein;[b] 7 November [O.S. 26 October] 1879 – 21 August 1940) was a Marxist revolutionary, theorist, and Soviet politician. Initially supporting the Menshevik Internationalists faction within the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party, he joined the Bolsheviks ("majority") just before the 1917 October Revolution, immediately becoming a leader within the Communist Party. He would go on to become one of the seven members of the first Politburo, founded in 1917 to manage the Bolshevik Revolution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Trotsky

;D

Best regards,
[/quote]

Ahhh... yes....

Once again, you righties seen to love to only read the first paragraph or just blindly believe what your fox and friends tell you...   ;D

Since I refuse to be your teacher, I'm not going to go into any more detail than this about Trotsky - he indeed started out as a communist, but was banished for his progressive ideals.  This eventually led to Stalin putting a price on his head.

Bu hey, if you just wanna post from wiki... well, here you go:

Trotsky considered himself a "Bolshevik-Leninist", arguing for the establishment of a vanguard party. He considered himself an advocate of orthodox Marxism. His politics differed in many respects from those of Stalin or Mao Zedong, most importantly in his rejection of the theory of Socialism in One Country and his declaring the need for an international "permanent revolution". Numerous Fourth Internationalist groups around the world continue to describe themselves as Trotskyist and see themselves as standing in this tradition, although they have different interpretations of the conclusions to be drawn from this. Supporters of the Fourth International echo Trotsky's opposition to Stalinist totalitarianism, advocating political revolution, arguing that socialism cannot sustain itself without democracy.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by pg on 10/23/17 at 09:42:47

Stalin killed him because he was a threat to his power.

Here's your cream.
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1508259361/4#4

Best regards,

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by T And T Garage on 10/23/17 at 10:02:37


342325292636440 wrote:
Stalin killed him because he was a threat to his power.

Here's your cream.
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1508259361/4#4

Best regards,


Ya... that's what I'm saying. SMH

Seriously, do you need to be taught about WHY, or do you just want to repeat the truth that I laid on you?
::)

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by WebsterMark on 10/23/17 at 10:54:39


504E41404D504B56240 wrote:
Nearly 50% of Americans polled, think that the media is fabricating news about our president.

We're NOT talking about slant/bias/context error - we're talking about making $hit up.  People think that the media is actually making stuff up about tweety.  

Fabrication.  Something wholly untrue.  Nearly 50%!  I'd like to know where they see that.  I'd like to see a wholly made up story about our "dear" leader.

Did the media make up his tweets?  Did they fabricate his voice saying "grab them by the pu$$y"?  Did they fabricate his poll numbers?  Did they fabricate the election results?  Did they fabricate that he will never make his taxes public?

Remember, we're talking fabrication, NOT commentary.  AND, we're talking about the media, NOT entertainers.  

Commentary is no different than what tweety himself did to Obama with the birther issue - or any number of repubs saying he's a Muslim.  Yeah, the media reported the accusations, and hanity and the like commented on it, but it was never substantiated or endorsed by the media.  

Fabrication is a whole different ballgame.  This country has to pull its head out of its rear end and look at EVERYTHING with a clear head.  The fact that we have a moron in office who can't stop tweeting and pointing the spotlight at himself is killing us.  Whenever he gets criticized, he calls "fake news".  But it's not fake - it's just news he doesn't like.

Real fake news would reporting that he doesn't tweet too much or that he never bankrupted more than one casino...

Further, a scary amount of those polled think it's OK for an administration to pull licenses of networks that they deem as "liars".

This is a dark, scary path.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPmInG67gyw[/media]



Back to the topic, the media's partisanship and outright lies is chiefly responsible for Trump's victory. He was the recipient of decades long abuses of The 4th Estate. In retrospect, his's election or someone like him, was inevitable. The media galvanized support behind Trump in part as a metaphorical middle finger to the press. Mitt Romney or John McCain could have won, but they played the game and tried to treat the press with the respect they didn't deserve. Trump treated them exactly as they deserved.

See the link below and if you're courageous, watch the video of her speech.

https://www.encounterbooks.com/features/facts-can-manipulated-truth-much-difficult-obtain/

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by T And T Garage on 10/23/17 at 11:03:42


675552434455427D51425B300 wrote:
Back to the topic, the media's partisanship and outright lies is chiefly responsible for Trump's victory.

What lies?  Where did the media actually fabricate a story?

He was the recipient of decades long abuses of The 4th Estate.

"Abuse"??...  He's a wh0re for the media.  He continues to be one.

In retrospect, his's election or someone like him, was inevitable. The media galvanized support behind Trump in part as a metaphorical middle finger to the press.

He's a demagogue, nothing more.  Sanders would have won without question had the DNC not strong-armed him out.

Mitt Romney or John McCain could have won, but they played the game and tried to treat the press with the respect they didn't deserve.

No chance.  Look at McCain's running mate and look at rmoney's hypocrisy.

Trump treated them exactly as they deserved.  LOL - except fox news, right?

See the link below and if you're courageous, watch the video of her speech.

https://www.encounterbooks.com/features/facts-can-manipulated-truth-much-difficult-obtain/



Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by MnSpring on 10/23/17 at 12:53:30

 
In a Book I am reading now.
A ‘higher up’, is directing two, reporters to do a job, (Newspaper).
To one, he says:
“Do not do, Politically Correct’, I want the Truth, the Facts”

And this is written by a Author, who in this book, has a, very, left of center leaning,  by the way they write, and most of the other statements written in the book.

(Now for the, person who has stated he/she, Supports,  the Very Far Left)

Yep, the book is,  ‘fiction’.
Yet a Writer, who very much leans, ‘Left’, in the other, ‘Political’, things that are being discussed.  
  In this One  instance, says/writes,
        “Do not do, ‘Politically Correct’, I want the Truth, the Facts”

                 Why would they say that ???


Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by WebsterMark on 10/24/17 at 04:36:12

The real scary part to ths story is the media's willingness to abandon any pretense of objectivity. They don't even try to hide their hatred of Trump in particular and conservatives in general. The speech and broadside this woman wrote occurred before the recent tornado of press coverage given to Trump's phone call to a widow. There was zero objectivity and in fact, news shows(not commentary shows but news shows) made up "facts" about the call. Trump was sarcastic....really?

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by WebsterMark on 10/24/17 at 05:02:16

...and by the way, we've heard nothing from the other widows Trump called. Interesting that the only complaints are coming from the call with that ridiculous congresswoman listening in.  

An objective question to ask is which is more likely: Trump called a widow and was sarcastic and totally unsympathetic or that a hyper partisan congresswoman embellished or totally misunderstood what was said?

Kelly had that press conference and told how he and Trump spoke about calls like this.

Does anyone really believe Trump was sarcastic, unsympathetic, angry that this was a waste of his time etc...?

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by T And T Garage on 10/24/17 at 06:17:28


1D2F28393E2F38072B38214A0 wrote:
The real scary part to this story is the media's willingness to abandon any pretense of objectivity. They don't even try to hide their hatred of Clinton in particular and liberals in general.  - see what I did there?  That's courtesy of your fox and friends.....

The speech and broadside this woman wrote occurred before the recent tornado of press coverage given to Trump's phone call to a widow. There was zero objectivity and in fact, news shows(not commentary shows but news shows) made up "facts" about the call. Trump was sarcastic....really?


Sarcastic?  You're serious?  OK, let's say for one second that you're right....  What does that say about our "wonderful" president???  At best, he's a man-child... pathetic.

Epic fail web....epic.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by T And T Garage on 10/24/17 at 06:18:11


182A2D3C3B2A3D022E3D244F0 wrote:
...and by the way, we've heard nothing from the other widows Trump called. Interesting that the only complaints are coming from the call with that ridiculous congresswoman listening in.  

An objective question to ask is which is more likely: Trump called a widow and was sarcastic and totally unsympathetic or that a hyper partisan congresswoman embellished or totally misunderstood what was said?

Kelly had that press conference and told how he and Trump spoke about calls like this.

Does anyone really believe Trump was sarcastic, unsympathetic, angry that this was a waste of his time etc...?


;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by Serowbot on 10/24/17 at 08:01:25

Trump is known for speaking off-the-cuff, and making very poor word choices... He's also well known for negativity and insults...
He has never said anything remotely intelligent that wasn't off a prompter and written for him...
He speaks with a 5th grade vocabulary.

All this makes the believability factor go way up...
I doubt it was intentional,.. just intellectually lazy or ignorant.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/24/17 at 08:01:32

Watching the children run in circles pointing to perceived bad behavior and ignoring the fact that we absolutely destroyed Libya.. all butthurt and outraged about an Alleged bad phone call
And Incapable of feeling anything about the death and destruction of Libya.
Astounding..

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by Serowbot on 10/24/17 at 08:03:00

JOg,.. get a tattoo..

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/24/17 at 08:08:43

Bot, get a clue.
You run away from the truth.
And point out every little meaningless piece of crap to use for your foundation of hate. Grow up.
Face the truth.
You didn't disagree with invading Libya because Obama was telling you it was good.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by WebsterMark on 10/24/17 at 08:25:30


584E59445C49445F2B0 wrote:
Trump is known for speaking off-the-cuff, and making very poor word choices... He's also well known for negativity and insults...
He has never said anything remotely intelligent that wasn't off a prompter and written for him...
He speaks with a 5th grade vocabulary.

All this makes the believability factor go way up...
I doubt it was intentional,.. just intellectually lazy or ignorant.


Never said anything remotely intelligent that wasn't off a prompter.....
That's the quintessential definition of hyperbole .....

If that's true, why haven't the other widows come out and said the same thing?

Now, it's certainly believable that Trump's  "bedside manners" leave something to be desired,  but it's not believable he was  flippant or sarcastic. It's far more believable this congresswoman seized upon an opportunity.

The bigger point is, and we all know this to be true,  if a Republican congressman had listened in on a phone call Obama made to a widow, and said the same things, even if the window corroborated the account, the story would be how awful the congressman was for listening in.  The narrative would've been this was a simple misunderstanding and Obama was trying to be sympathetic but in her grief, the poor woman heard it wrong.  

and that is exactly what would've happened.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by T And T Garage on 10/24/17 at 08:33:15


576562737465724D61726B000 wrote:
[quote author=584E59445C49445F2B0 link=1508425395/45#50 date=1508857285]Trump is known for speaking off-the-cuff, and making very poor word choices... He's also well known for negativity and insults...
He has never said anything remotely intelligent that wasn't off a prompter and written for him...
He speaks with a 5th grade vocabulary.

All this makes the believability factor go way up...
I doubt it was intentional,.. just intellectually lazy or ignorant.


Never said anything remotely intelligent that wasn't off a prompter.....
That's the quintessential definition of hyperbole .....

If that's true, why haven't the other widows come out and said the same thing?

Now, it's certainly believable that Trump's  "bedside manners" leave something to be desired,  but it's not believable he was  flippant or sarcastic. It's far more believable this congresswoman seized upon an opportunity.

The bigger point is, and we all know this to be true,  if a Republican congressman had listened in on a phone call Obama made to a widow, and said the same things, even if the window corroborated the account, the story would be how awful the congressman was for listening in.  The narrative would've been this was a simple misunderstanding and Obama was trying to be sympathetic but in her grief, the poor woman heard it wrong.  

and that is exactly what would've happened. [/quote]

You missed the point web -

"All this makes the believability factor go way up...
I doubt it was intentional,.. just intellectually lazy or ignorant."


You see, the difference between Obama and our current president is that Obama is intelligent, well spoken, a Harvard graduate and a compassionate human being.

Even IF it's not true, the fact that we can believe it, shows what kind of pathetic human being our president is.

Think of it this way - if someone made up a story that charles manson practices cannibalism, you wouldn't be surprised, given his history.  You might be skeptical, but hey... it's charles manson.

Same thing applies for our "wonderful" president.  He has set the bar so low that he can only go up (well, until his next tweet that is....)

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by raydawg on 10/24/17 at 09:02:36


7B494E5F58495E614D5E472C0 wrote:
[quote author=584E59445C49445F2B0 link=1508425395/45#50 date=1508857285]Trump is known for speaking off-the-cuff, and making very poor word choices... He's also well known for negativity and insults...
He has never said anything remotely intelligent that wasn't off a prompter and written for him...
He speaks with a 5th grade vocabulary.

All this makes the believability factor go way up...
I doubt it was intentional,.. just intellectually lazy or ignorant.


Never said anything remotely intelligent that wasn't off a prompter.....
That's the quintessential definition of hyperbole .....

If that's true, why haven't the other widows come out and said the same thing?

Now, it's certainly believable that Trump's  "bedside manners" leave something to be desired,  but it's not believable he was  flippant or sarcastic. It's far more believable this congresswoman seized upon an opportunity.

The bigger point is, and we all know this to be true,  if a Republican congressman had listened in on a phone call Obama made to a widow, and said the same things, even if the window corroborated the account, the story would be how awful the congressman was for listening in.  The narrative would've been this was a simple misunderstanding and Obama was trying to be sympathetic but in her grief, the poor woman heard it wrong.  

and that is exactly what would've happened. [/quote]

Web buddy......

Willie got his wang sucked in office.
Smacked a few chicks around when he was a guv.....
And Trump talks cheap, and that is paramount to the ultimate sin.

The left doesn't care, with Harvey Weinstein and Hollywood being the perfect example.

Nothing about Russia, Hillary, Obama, and shady dealings matter.
Only the possibility that Trump, or someone who he talked to, might know a Russian, matters....

You are wasting you time bro.

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by Serowbot on 10/24/17 at 09:04:14

Telling me your duck can fly is different than telling me your dog can fly... :-?

Title: Re: Well Folks... This is indeed scary...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/24/17 at 09:23:05

Your mind is amazing, bot.
Still unable to admit you supported a war crime?

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