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Title: Soler Fields Post by MnSpring on 09/18/17 at 17:07:41 OK, you drive by, and look at fields of Corn or Beans. Now you look at fields of, ’Solar Panels’. (Photo-voltaic Cells) OK, really no difference. Yet, YET, they, ’STARTED’, (Here), 4 + years ago, then went Bankrupt, (After Receiving the Fed Subsidies) Then they started up again, (After Receiving the Fed Subsidies) with the SAME PEOPLE, (just different name). Then went Bankrupt, (After Receiving the Fed Subsidies) Then they started up again, (After Receiving the Fed Subsidies) with the SAME PEOPLE, (just different name). (There is one close to here, that did that, FIVE TIMES !!!!!!!!!!!!) Let’s see, ‘Days of Sunshine” Minn, 52% AZ 85% NV 79% Ect, Etc, Etc, ALL South, Higher !!!!!!!!!! Hmmmm, Ya think, Gov. ‘Goofy’, and the, ‘Wanna be KING’, had something to, do, with that ??????? And the amount of electric they will generate, is Equivalent to, ‘A Speck of sand on a Beach’. Yea, better than, Turbines, or, Mirrors, Which Kill ANY Bird flying. Yet, STILL, Equivalent to, ‘A Speck of sand on a Beach’. Really feel sorry for the DFI’s, that signed up for the ‘BIG’, land rent money, of a 20 year lease. Which is: ‘Anything left, you get, FREE’. Which after 5 years, the Solar Panels will be, OBSOLETE, and in 20 Years, the landowner, will have to PAY, 10 Times, the payment of their lease, to dispose of the, ‘HAZARDOUS’ Waste, of the panels. Hey, THANKS, Gov. ‘Goofy’, and the, ‘Wanna be KING'. !!!!!!! Another example, of the, ‘Farty Dust Sprinklers’, NOT, Thinking !!!!!!!!!! Yes, a, ‘Alternate’, solution is necessary. But one does, NOT, Jump in, Without, examination, of the long run. Thus the statement of, ‘A Idea, vs, Reality’, Comes to mind. Or another way: A, 'Kids' Idea, vs a, 'Adult', experience and knowledge. |
Title: Re: Soler Fields Post by Eegore on 09/19/17 at 07:57:49 Who is it? Shouldn't take more than a day to find the bankruptcy filings. |
Title: Re: Soler Fields Post by MnSpring on 09/20/17 at 17:26:20 Eegore, In a Couple of days, when I drive by that site again, (IF THEY HAVE ONE) I will capture the information on a ’sign’, (If they have one) Then someone else can spend the time to do the research. (I Have wood to make, for NEXT Fall) Again, doesn’t matter, If I see Corn/Beans on that field. Or a Array of Solar Panels. What matters is, the power they will produce, It Is but a, ’Spec of Sand on a Beach’. (And every Year it will get Less and Less, and Less) What gets my goat, is that they, (Under the ‘Wanna Be King’), have, BILKED, BILLIONS, (all of them combined), Of MY, (and yours), TAX Money, and put it in their pocket. Just like the, underground, ‘Fiber Optic’, cable, which this County, paid, 7.2, MILLON for. Which was, OBSOLETE, the day they put the first shovel in the ground. Which ONLY, 20%, COULD use, and only 8%, DO, use. YET, 100%, PAID for it. Another ’Thanks’, to the, ‘Wanna Be King’. |
Title: Re: Soler Fields Post by Eegore on 09/21/17 at 06:47:09 If a solar company went bankrupt twice with Federal subsidies I'd like to see the model. You know of another that did it 5 times. That's in public record somewhere and I'd like to see how that happened. We can talk about how bad it is, but I want to know why because that's some information I can actually use. |
Title: Re: Soler Fields Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/21/17 at 06:52:13 but I want to know why .... A question I've had regarding many things that were done that ended badly, unsurprisingly to me and others I've talked to. Corruption is often the seed of the decision making process. |
Title: Re: Soler Fields Post by Eegore on 09/21/17 at 09:20:11 Any Federally assisted energy program that goes bankrupt once is going to be studied in detail I can assure you that. 3 times is an investigation, and 5 times should be national news. I've had someone look into this and theres a handful of companies in the Chapter 11 boat but no one with 5 bankruptcies or even transfer of ownership that many times. We must be looking in the wrong places, or the information provided is inaccurate. To the O.P. a sign isn't necessary, you could give me a location a nearby address, a road etc. Land that large with panels will be easy to identify ownership of. |
Title: Re: Soler Fields Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/21/17 at 19:20:48 Maybe there's enough clues in these links. ankrupt solar panel firm took stimulus money, left a ... www.foxnews.com/us/2013/10/31/bankrupt-solar-panel-firm-took... Oct 31, 2013 · A Colorado-based solar company that got hundreds of millions of dollars in federal loan guarantees before going belly-up didn't just empty taxpayers ... Solyndra Scandal | Full Coverage of Failed Solar Startup ... https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../specialreports/solyndra-scandal Full coverage of Solyndra, the California-based solar company that went bankrupt after receiving $535 million in federal loan guarantees from the Obama administration. Solar Energy Company Touted By Obama Goes Bankrupt - ABC News abcnews.go.com/.../solar-energy-company-touted-by-obama-goes-bankrupt Aug 31, 2011 · Solar Energy Company Touted By Obama ... this company received a loan to expand its ... the Obama administration fast-tracked Solyndra’s loan ... Solyndra - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solyndra Solyndra received a $535 million U.S. Energy Department loan ... the successor company is named 360 Degree Solar ... Obama White House On Solyndra, ... Technology · Management and investors · Government support · Production Obama's alternative energy bankruptcies - Oct. 22, 2012 money.cnn.com/2012/10/22/news/economy/obama-energy-bankruptcies/... Oct 22, 2012 · Obama's alternative energy ... Mitt Romney said "about half" of the companies funded by Obama's ... solar panels received a $535 million loan guarantee to ... Obama-Backed Green Energy Company Goes Bankru | … dailycaller.com/2016/03/30/obama-backed-green-energy-company-goes... Mar 30, 2016 · The Spanish green energy company Abengoa has filed for Chapter 15 ... getting billions of dollars from the Obama administration to build solar power ... Obama Legacy: List of Failed Obama Green Energy & Solar ... www.dividedstates.com/list-of-failed-obama-green-energy-solar... Fisker Drew Down $193 Million From An Obama Administration Energy Loan Prior To the ... would embarrass the White House and force the solar-energy company to ... Obama Vows to 'Bet On' Green Energy Loans That 'Will Fail' www.breitbart.com/.../obama...bet-on-green-energy-loans-that-will-fail Obama Vows to 'Bet On' Green Energy Loans That 'Will Fail' ... The Obama administration has also loaned millions to the ... House and force the solar energy company |
Title: Re: Soler Fields Post by MnSpring on 09/22/17 at 08:46:40 Eegore. To the O.P. a sign isn't necessary, you could give me a location a nearby address, a road etc. Land that large with panels will be easy to identify ownership of. These, here, are, Rented/Leased, properties. I am sure their some, where a larger Solar Company buys the land. The ones around here, tend to be in the 5-20 acre size. And 'Rented'. When I get a 'roundtuit', I will PM you, with any other information I have. (In Shades of 'Mission Impossible') 'Your Mission, should you choose to accept it, will be to, look through the County records, and read all the 'Adjustment', and (CUP), Conditional Use Permits, and compare that, 'request', to the legal description of the land, which is to be used for that, 'request'. (The ownership of the parcels, will be provided). Then Compare that request with ABC company. Then Look for a request, by XYZ company, for the Same, land. Then look for request for EDF company, (etc). Now. Go to the State, and the Fed gov., and match that information, with any bankruptcy filings.' You do know their are 9 Types of Bankruptcy. Now a 5 acre site, 'could', power 4-5 houses. (Possibly 10 + Houses, IF, They had ALL, had, ALL, LED lights, and a LP gas Stove and Water heater, and Furnace.) The amount of money, taken out of, your, and my pocket. Does NOT even come CLOSE, to being worth it. An example of that, is: It is a common practice, for people who have a bit of acreage, to Buy, young Pheasants in the spring, (sometimes even eggs), then they pen them, raise them, feed them, protect them from predators, then couple of weeks before the season, release them into the wild. Some hunt them, some just believe their are helping the population. (Buy Chicks, only roosters = more hunting. Buy eggs, only a, %, will be Roosters = more people thinking they are increasing the population. Can only Hunt Roosters) Several years ago, at the local Gun Club, which now and then someones comes in to give a talk. The Wildlife Biologist, outlines, the ‘Cost’ of buying and raising. (EACH YEAR), and the cost of planting cover, (ONCE). Which if their is cover, and close water and food. Their will be MORE, natural birds, and it will just get better each year. Then to further illuminate the point, he said: “I will give you numbered leg bands, then the Next year, I will go hunting with you, and Each of the birds you Harvest, released from the previous year, I will give you $100.00 for” (Yet several Still, Raise and release them. Just as some, with a, ‘wobble’, in their MC, re-jet the Carb, thinking that is going to solve the problem) I equate that to a, ’Speck of sand on the Beach’, concerning the ‘little’ Solar fields. Should, ‘we’, all be working on ways to, ‘Conserve’, ? SURE. But to throw a bunch of money on the ground, and, WALK AWAY, while the, ‘mice’, chew it up, and make a, ’nest’ ? NO |
Title: Re: Soler Fields Post by Eegore on 09/22/17 at 14:35:16 Being based in Colorado I am quite familiar with bankrupt solar. I have not heard of a single company oing bankrupt 5 times and I'd like to look into that. You could just tell me an address, a road or point out on Google maps where these fields are. I can figure out from there who used them, especially if they filed multiple bankruptcies. As it stands now I can eliminate Alaska and Hawaii but other tha that I am guessing on where you are seeing this. |
Title: Re: Soler Fields Post by MnSpring on 09/22/17 at 17:05:55 Eegore, I am from Minnesota. Just to the left of this screen, under the avatar, (If one chooses to do so) One can list a, State, or Country. I Just sent you a PM, on surface details, on just 3 places. Good Luck, finding the, 'principals' of the various Companies. |
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