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Message started by Eegore on 08/30/17 at 08:16:26

Title: Tail light assembly part
Post by Eegore on 08/30/17 at 08:16:26

I have a damaged one of these light I want to hook up.

https://www.classicbritishspares.com/products/mt110-rear-lucas-copy-tail-light-triumph-bsa-cafe-racer-bobber-custom-lamp-emgo

Inside is a spring, and a plastic connector with two copper/brass pins that the light connects to.

I was wondering if the internal assembly, the spring/plastic and copper piece is sold anywhere. It looks pretty universal but I have no idea what those parts would be called.

Title: Re: Tail light assembly part
Post by verslagen1 on 08/30/17 at 08:25:48

Look at the stock tail light and see if you can use the parts out of that.
Or buy a cheap light and steal the parts out of that.
Other than that, go to an auto supply, they might have an assembly you can use.

Title: Re: Tail light assembly part
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/30/17 at 08:27:33

Junk yard?

Title: Re: Tail light assembly part
Post by Eegore on 08/30/17 at 08:32:20

Is there a more specific term for the parts?

I tried searching motorcycle internal brake light assembly but theres tons.

Title: Re: Tail light assembly part
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/30/17 at 08:49:44

bayonet lamp socket

Title: Re: Tail light assembly part
Post by Eegore on 08/30/17 at 09:08:26

Thanks that's exactly what I was looking for.

Didn't know what that assembly was called.

I see there are plenty of LED bulbs but I don't know if they are a straight conversion. 12V bulbs would need a resistor as well correct?

Title: Re: Tail light assembly tpart
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/30/17 at 09:19:45

12 v incandescent bulbs are what it was designed to use. No added stuff needed.

Title: Re: Tail light assembly part
Post by Eegore on 08/30/17 at 09:48:04

Right incandescent is what goes in there but there's also bayonet LED replacements. They say "plug and play" but I don't think that's correct.

Doesn't the LED bulb need a resistor?

Title: Re: Tail light assembly part
Post by verslagen1 on 08/30/17 at 10:08:25

6545474F5245200 wrote:

Right incandescent is what goes in there but there's also bayonet LED replacements. They say "plug and play" but I don't think that's correct.

Doesn't the LED bulb need a resistor?

Only to use a stock flasher.
You can replace the stock flasher with an electronic one.

Title: Re: Tail light assembly part
Post by Eegore on 08/30/17 at 10:19:49

This goes on the brake light.

Title: Re: Tail light assembly part
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/30/17 at 12:35:34

In a Wurd,
No.
Now, is your led visible in daytime?
Nobody knows, but you need to.

Title: Re: Tail light assembly part
Post by verslagen1 on 08/30/17 at 12:46:42

1D3D3F372A3D580 wrote:

This goes on the brake light.

Flasher is the only place a resister would be required to get the flash rate correct.
Unless of course you were making your own led light out of components.
But I don't think you're doing that.

Title: Re: Tail light assembly part
Post by Kris01 on 08/30/17 at 17:09:28

Versy, please explain. Do the aftermarket LED bulbs already have a resistor built in? If not, won't they burn up pretty quickly without a resistor?

Title: Re: Tail light assembly part
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/30/17 at 17:24:44

Why would you need to mess with a 12 volt light? Plug and play..

Title: Re: Tail light assembly part
Post by verslagen1 on 08/30/17 at 19:45:31

5F667D672425140 wrote:

Versy, please explain. Do the aftermarket LED bulbs already have a resistor built in? If not, won't they burn up pretty quickly without a resistor?

if you're using a 1156 or 1157, it's made for 12v. plug and play.

if you got a hand full of leds with bare leads, they are made for 1.5v and you'll need to chain a number of them together and maybe a resister or you'll get a very bright light for a few seconds.

Title: Re: Tail light assembly part
Post by Eegore on 08/31/17 at 05:39:03

Ok I didn't know that the LED bulbs were compatible with an incandescent setup. I might grab a few and see how they work then.

Title: Re: Tail light assembly part
Post by Dave on 08/31/17 at 06:14:02

49696B637E690C0 wrote:

I see there are plenty of LED bulbs but I don't know if they are a straight conversion. 12V bulbs would need a resistor as well correct?

If the LED bulb is built to replace a 1156 or 1157.....they are already modified with the needed resistors. For a brake light or running lights you just replace the stock filament bulb with the LED - but be aware that a cheap LED may not be as bright as the original bulb was.

If the bulb is a turn signal - you may need to replace the mechanical flasher with a solid state/electronic one......or it may not flash (or will flash very quickly).

Pick the bulb type, and you can see what is available at Superbright LED. (Maybe not the cheapest - but definitely good quality).
https://www.superbrightleds.com/cat/motorcycle-led-bulbs/

Title: Re: Tail light assembly part
Post by Eegore on 08/31/17 at 06:27:32

Ok thanks for the link, I will check it out.

Title: Re: Tail light assembly part
Post by SALB on 09/01/17 at 12:08:04

Pick the bulb type, and you can see what is available at Superbright LED. (Maybe not the cheapest - but definitely good quality).
https://www.superbrightleds.com/cat/motorcycle-led-bulbs/[/quote]

Use code LABOR17 at checkout through Sept 5th for 15% off. ;)

Title: Re: Tail light assembly part
Post by BGregg on 09/04/17 at 18:11:25

Has anyone had experience with Sylvania 1157 Zevo Superbright LED bulbs in the Savage tail light housing? its got an interesting angled back design that looks like it should utilize the stock reflector better than forward facing LEDs but I don't know if it it'll align correctly with the stock reflector.

From the repair manual it looks like the stock reflector is primarily aligned side to side and not top to bottom and I'm wondering if i get this LED bulb it'll install with the angled portions on the top and bottom, negating some of the potential benefits.

If no one else has any experience with these bulbs in particular i'll probably just bite the bullet and play guinea pig for the everyone.

Title: Re: Tail light assembly part
Post by Eegore on 09/04/17 at 18:34:14

The bulb I need to test says

12V/32CP

when I type that in on motorcycle lights on that website it gives me this:

https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/motorcycle-led-bulbs/motorcycle-led-headlight-kit-9005-led-fanless-headlight-conversion-kit-with-adjustable-color-temperature-and-compact-heat-sink/4112/9298/

Not even close to he bulb I have.

Title: Re: Tail light assembly part
Post by Dave on 09/05/17 at 04:38:05

1B3B39312C3B5E0 wrote:

If you are searching for an LED....they aren't rated in CP (Candlepower). You need to pick the type of bulb base (1157, 1156, H4, etc.), then use that as the beginning of the search. Some LED bulbs are very bright....some a bit less - the brightness is measured in Lumens. And the effectiveness of the bulb in your light (reflector/lens) can greatly change the useful light. Light housings that use a serrated reflector to disperse the light and a smooth lens (rather than a lens with a pattern cast in) can be a real problem for LEDS, as a lot of LED bulbs aren't made to disperse the light to the reflector - some LED bulbs don't send light out to the sides.....only the top of the bulb.

Here is an example of a light that works poorly in a housing with a fluted reflector and clear lens (I mounted this is my Pontiac Vibe and it was very dim).

https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/tail-brake-turn/1157-led-bulb-w-reflector-lens-dual-function-1-high-power-led-bay15d-retrofit-car/922/

Bulbs that have LED oriented to the side work much better with fluted reflectors, and you have a wide choice of brightness and cost....and you do have to pay attention to physical size, as some of them can be pretty large.

https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/tail-brake-turn/1157-led-bulb-w-stock-cover-dual-function-36-smd-led-tower-bay15d-retrofit-car/1689/

https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/tail-brake-turn/1157-led-bulb-dual-function-27-smd-led-tower-bay15d-retrofit/2625/

Title: Re: Tail light assembly part
Post by BGregg on 10/13/17 at 15:45:01

Finally got around to installing the new led bulb. The LEDs lined up with the reflector very well. I'm interested to see what it looks like tonight.

Title: Re: Tail light assembly part
Post by BGregg on 10/13/17 at 15:46:32

Early dusk brightness level