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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> Where to start?? /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1498713407 Message started by Maine413 on 06/28/17 at 22:16:46 |
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Title: Where to start?? Post by Maine413 on 06/28/17 at 22:16:46 Hey all, I'm excited to be a part of a another forum, and even more excited to have a new bike that led me here. Please pardon me if I missed the thread where I could get this information. I did search a little, but I thought I'd also use this time to introduce myself. I've been riding for what seems like most of my life. I've owned a few CBRs and an R6, but I just recently picked up a ls650 [ch128526]. I have a few years of racing under my belt, thanks to WERA. I've ridden bikes all over the world, from Haiti to India. Needless to say, I LOVE bikes, and I'm really excited about my new project bike. My new love is a 1996 ls650 with 2300 original miles. I'm not sure exactly what's in her past, but from what I was told from the seller she's been sitting for 10+ years. That being said, she doesn't run and I have no idea where to start to her her running. There was gas left in the tank, and it's rusted out, so my first order of business at the moment is getting a new. I also removed the carburetor, and I plan to clean that thoroughly before trying to get her start. So, where do I start? Forgive me if I missed a sticky that already explains this. I'd love to read up on it, if you can provide me with a link. Cheers :D |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by jcstokes on 06/28/17 at 22:59:31 The tank, is obviously a major issue, but you may find one in the marketplace section of this forum, if not then it's a wrecker. There are basic tips both in Rubber Side Down and the technical section. You could remove the rusted tank and oil the cylinder bore. Clean around the spark plug before you remove it, you could also remove the tappet covers and check clearances and then squirt some oil around those areas in the hope some might find its way onto the cam lobes. There are some that say change the oil and filter before starting a long standing engine, others say don't. While the spark plug is out, you could put it in gear and rotate the rear wheel to see that the engine is free. |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by Maine413 on 06/28/17 at 23:03:00 Thanks! I've already removed the tank, and will be ordering a replacement soon. I'll look into everything else that you suggested as well. |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by verslagen1 on 06/28/17 at 23:05:29 627D7B7C61665767576F7D713A080 wrote:
put a volt meter on the battery, if it falls below 10v, stop and recharge. |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by verslagen1 on 06/28/17 at 23:08:09 6C40484F44151012210 wrote:
if you have a wrecker near by, a kawasaki vn750 is a close fit. |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by Dave on 06/29/17 at 01:33:54 I am one that recommends that you don't change the oil before you get it started the first time. If you drain the oil and remove the filter....you won't get any oil flow until the pump all the air in the filter and filter housing is pushed out by the fresh oil....and those first few seconds of oil flow are very critical to all the parts that have been dormant for 10 years. In that long period of storage the protective oil film on the bearings, rockers, cam and piston has likely dripped off or evaporated. There also seems to be a lot of cams that are damaged by rust where the rockers are resting on the cam during long periods of storage. As others have said it is important to oil the piston and cylinder before you attempt to start the bike - I use Sta-Bil Fogging oil days/weeks before I attempt to bring a bike back to life.....and I recommend you use it when you put a bike away for winter storage. You should also remove the valve adjustment cap on the cylinder head and squirt oil on the camshaft and rockers. |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by batman on 06/29/17 at 08:32:11 I would be tempted to change the oil if the bike has been sitting that long ,If your in Maine ,(or anywhere else )the temperature change and age would kill any chance of the oil being anything but useless. I would however not change the filter,so as not to empty it. I would also jack or hang the rear of the bike and add the new oil through the rear valve inspection opening there by flooding the cam area. Fogging the cylinder is a must do . |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by SoC on 06/29/17 at 09:08:01 Maine413, If you are looking for a tank, another member rich8363 is doing a Ryca build and as of earlier this month had his original tank for sale at a reasonable price. If you search Ryca Build his posts will come up, he has been active with it of late. |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by ohiomoto on 06/29/17 at 09:21:49 I have a full set of tins from my 96 listed in the market place if you are keeping it stock. I was hoping to keep them together as a set since the paint is in good shape and there are no dings or dents. |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by LANCER on 06/29/17 at 13:47:46 Is your tank rusted through ? As in, it has a hole/holes in it ? If not, then you can get some muriatic acid and remove ALL rust in very short order; only takes a couple of minutes; then flush with water. If you do want another tank, I have a spare tank as well that is in excellent condition. It is a light grey with a hint of green. $50+shp. |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by Maine413 on 06/29/17 at 20:29:00 It's not rusted through. I've already picked an aftermarket tank, and the rust was my excuse for buying it :-D. But I think it'd be wise to clean the old tank, and make sure I can get it to run before I start investing in parts. I'll keep you all posted. |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by stewmills on 06/30/17 at 06:52:03 4C414E4345521217200 wrote:
I recently did this for a friend's 4 wheeler that was rusted out pretty bad. First did a cleaning with apple cider vinegar, then learned that muriatic acid works MUCH faster and looks like a horror movie with the smoke drifting out. ;) Immediately after muriatic acid, I rinsed well with a degreaser and then with two rinses of acetone, them immediately followed that with two coats of Red-Kote (each coat separated by 24 hours of drying time). Seems to be holding up well! |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by gizzo on 06/30/17 at 15:44:57 Hi Maine413. I like the pic in the first post. Bit different to Savage style! 8-) |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by Maine413 on 06/30/17 at 15:55:08 I appreciate it. The reason I wanted a Savage is because I won't be tempted to be stupid when I ride. I'm mature enough to know that I'm not mature enough. [ch128513] |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/30/17 at 16:53:04 The limitations of the Savage are my limiters. I'm reading Twist of the Wrist II, and it's teaching me how to get more out of the Savage. But the last thing I need is a machine that will spin the tire and wheelie coming out of a turn. Maybe one day I'll have a Kawasaki 250.. |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by Maine413 on 06/30/17 at 16:59:25 All you need is a little rain, and some imagination. You'll be backing it in and spinning it up before you know it. ;D |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/30/17 at 17:03:39 I am seeing the last chikkin strip going away on the front. |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by Dave on 07/03/17 at 03:37:24 322D2B2C31360737073F2D216A580 wrote:
I was talking to a fellow who is a road racer and very able road rider....he rides a Ducati MultiStrada as his road bike, and he can wear out a set of tires in 4-5 days of riding in the mountains as his group rides very quickly. I showed him my tires and the thin strip of unused rubber on the edge - I told him that thin strip is there so that I never have a trip to the Emergency Room. He said that on the track they are called "Chicken" strips - but on the street they are called "Safety" strips. He said that on the street you should not be riding right over to the edge.....that the road conditions demand that you keep a margin of safety for that unexpected bump, slick spot, debris, etc. There is no shame in having an unused strip of rubber on the edges of your street bike tires. Most of the fellows that ride over on the edge of their tires on regular basis also have some pretty deep road rash scratches in their leathers. |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by Maine413 on 07/03/17 at 04:29:19 That's some great advice! I tell people all the time not go push their limits on the street. The track is really the only place for that. Not to mention all the different factors that come in to play when it comes to tire wear, and especially with the front tire. The compound, tire profile, suspension set up, all play a part. I've been an inch away from dragging my elbows and still had strips left at times. |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/03/17 at 07:21:35 It wasn't a goal, I just noticed it. It's a fifteen year old tire. I'm cooling it till I get the new one on. |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by Rodger on 07/03/17 at 09:11:19 "Safety Strips"...I like it! :) [2100 miles on S40, AMPLE Safety Strips on front IRC... ;) ] |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by Maine413 on 07/03/17 at 20:49:03 Great news guys! I got her fired up, and was to take her for a few laps around the neighborhood! It was a good day. I ended taking apart the carb, and cleaning thoroughly, replaced a few damaged hoses, cleaned the petcock, cleaned all the rust out of the tank, and I guess that's all she needed. Thanks for all of the pointers and suggestions. |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by gizzo on 07/04/17 at 05:05:54 32090413020E151308000D12610 wrote:
unless you are this guy, who I overheard regaling his friends with how fast and good handling his ninja is and how much a pile of crap is the (my) Enfield parked next to him ::) |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by gizzo on 07/04/17 at 05:11:06 vs. the pile o poop Enfield ;D I doubt either of us would keep up with Maine 413 style! Excuse the crappy cropping, trying to post too large file sizes from a phone with no resizing. Just had to crop it to fit |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by gizzo on 07/04/17 at 05:17:52 Great to hear the Cabbage is up and running, Maine! Enjoy it. Live slow, die whenever!! |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by Dave on 07/04/17 at 16:44:08 3D272321201E2F3C3A3C272A292B4E0 wrote:
unless you are this guy, who I overheard regaling his friends with how fast and good handling his ninja is and how much a pile of crap is the (my) Enfield parked next to him ::) [/quote] Yep, that appears to be playing it a little too safe. Obviously a new rider with an attitude. |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by verslagen1 on 07/04/17 at 16:52:58 Big mouth, small... he also has a good pair of clippers. ;D |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by Dave on 07/05/17 at 05:17:02 273423223D3036343F60510 wrote:
Good eye Versy.....next thing he should get is a belt sander! |
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Title: Re: Where to start?? Post by Maine413 on 10/18/17 at 21:28:40 4548474A4C5B1B1E290 wrote:
Is your tank still for sale? I just received my aftermarket tank today, but I don't think I'm going to keep it. |
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