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Message started by pg on 06/05/17 at 15:02:37

Title: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by pg on 06/05/17 at 15:02:37

Sanders received a $795,000 advance for his best-selling book, “Our Revolution.” He got another $63,750 for his forthcoming “Bernie Sanders’ Guide to Political Revolution,” a book aimed at young readers co-authored with Kate Waters. And he took in $6,735 in royalties for his 1997 memoir “Outsider in the House.”

That’s more than $865,000 for peddling his working-class ideas. Not bad. Then there’s the $2,521 Sanders earned last year in royalties for his 1987 spoken-word folk album, “We Shall Overcome.”

Senate rules do not require members to report their government salaries on their annual disclosures, but all rank-and-file members earn $174,000 a year. That, combined with the more than $878,000 Sanders reported in his filing, puts the democratic socialist’s 2016 payday at roughly $1,052,000.

So, while spending months speaking about a rigged economy where the 1% of earners are the only beneficiaries of the governmental system, it turns out that Bernie himself was making 1%’er level income.

With his recent purchase of $575,000 lakefront home in North Hero, Vermont, and possession of two six-figure mortgages which were revealed in his financial disclosure, it is clear that Sanders is a big fan of keeping and using the fruits of his labor.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-05/bernie-sanders-made-more-1-million-2016

Best regards,

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by T And T Garage on 06/05/17 at 15:56:35


756264686777050 wrote:
Sanders received a $795,000 advance for his best-selling book, “Our Revolution.” He got another $63,750 for his forthcoming “Bernie Sanders’ Guide to Political Revolution,” a book aimed at young readers co-authored with Kate Waters. And he took in $6,735 in royalties for his 1997 memoir “Outsider in the House.”

That’s more than $865,000 for peddling his working-class ideas. Not bad. Then there’s the $2,521 Sanders earned last year in royalties for his 1987 spoken-word folk album, “We Shall Overcome.”

Senate rules do not require members to report their government salaries on their annual disclosures, but all rank-and-file members earn $174,000 a year. That, combined with the more than $878,000 Sanders reported in his filing, puts the democratic socialist’s 2016 payday at roughly $1,052,000.

So, while spending months speaking about a rigged economy where the 1% of earners are the only beneficiaries of the governmental system, it turns out that Bernie himself was making 1%’er level income.

With his recent purchase of $575,000 lakefront home in North Hero, Vermont, and possession of two six-figure mortgages which were revealed in his financial disclosure, it is clear that Sanders is a big fan of keeping and using the fruits of his labor.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-05/bernie-sanders-made-more-1-million-2016

Best regards,


Wait - so you think that Bernie doesn't support any capitalism?  You sure about that?....  You have any proof???

LOL - that's the problem with you cons... you have no idea what balance is!

You always seem to miss that the difference between Bernie and pretty much every other politician is that he doesn't take CAMPAIGN money from PACs.  He's not beholden to the likes of the kochs or soros or wall street.

It's hilarious that cons like you are so jealous!  Yep - he's making a FORTUNE!  Good on him!  But no worries, Bernie is paying his taxes.  Unlike our tweeter in chief - (we have no idea what his taxes say... he's hiding them...)

Face it - the cons have nothing on Sanders.  Only aspirations of being half the man he is politically.  (have you seen tweety's approval numbers lately?)

I think your little tantrum is misplaced.  

LMAO!!


Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by WebsterMark on 06/05/17 at 16:56:00

Bernie is perhaps the biggest fraud in politics.

But good for him in banking serious cash getting enough people to let go of their serious cash.

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/05/17 at 17:13:30

I remember when support was for another war in Libya.
Just because there are more people hating trump doesn't make him wrong on Policy.


The IDIOTIC hyperventilating over tweets creates negative numbers in the same media that hated him from the beginning. Credibility Vacuum.


Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by T And T Garage on 06/05/17 at 18:32:04


360403121504132C00130A610 wrote:
Bernie is perhaps the biggest fraud in politics.

But good for him in banking serious cash getting enough people to let go of their serious cash.



LMAO!!!!  Fraud???  Care to qualify that one???


Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by T And T Garage on 06/05/17 at 18:37:37


5A454344595E6F5F6F57454902300 wrote:
I remember when support was for another war in Libya.
Just because there are more people hating trump doesn't make him wrong on Policy.


The IDIOTIC hyperventilating over tweets creates negative numbers in the same media that hated him from the beginning. Credibility Vacuum.



BWAAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAAAA!!!!

^^^^^ that's a qualified response to your post!

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by WebsterMark on 06/05/17 at 18:50:28

hey, keep in mind, i'm not griping about Bernie's deal.  I make more than a US Senator but no one's going to give me an ADVANCE to write a book that none of Bernie's groupie followers are going to buy. But if he can pull it off, more power to him.

And The Bern's appeal was NOT juust campaign finance. It was taxes and the responsibility of the 1% to pay more tax. Wait until Bernie hires tax lawyers to find loopholds that will help him keep most of that yuge advance!

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by T And T Garage on 06/05/17 at 18:53:13


685A5D4C4B5A4D725E4D543F0 wrote:
hey, keep in mind, i'm not griping about Bernie's deal.  I make more than a US Senator but no one's going to give me an ADVANCE to write a book that none of Bernie's groupie followers are going to buy. But if he can pull it off, more power to him.

And The Bern's appeal was NOT juust campaign finance. It was taxes and the responsibility of the 1% to pay more tax. Wait until Bernie hires tax lawyers to find loopholds that will help him keep most of that yuge advance!


No, no... not so fast....
"Bernie is perhaps the biggest fraud in politics."
C'mon smart guy.... qualify that statement.....

I dare you.

OH, btw, it's "loopholes", not "loopholds" (but yeah, I'm sure you earn more than a senator.....

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by MnSpring on 06/05/17 at 18:58:17

I am sure, that  B.S., can not occupy 3 mansions at the same time.

So he has 2-3 rooms, ‘reserved’ for him and family.
and the Rest of the rooms are full of those Poor Refugee  Families.
  Right ????????

Is that not,  ’Spreading The Wealth”  ????????

Hea, wait, just had a thought.
How about,  B.S.,  Letting a  bunch of  LS/650-S40 drivers,
Use his Place for a  rally ???????

At least non of us, are of a bent to,  KILL  HIM,
because he does not believe in, our, ‘religion’s’. !
  (Or Lack Of)


Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by pg on 06/05/17 at 19:36:36


495758595449524F3D0 wrote:
LOL - that's the problem with you cons... you have no idea what balance is!


The problem with the left is you have no scruples and or principles.

He is the sanctimonious socialist, the pretender, the hypocrite, the deceiver, the person whose stated believes are in direct contraction to their actions.  

How many houses do you need Bernie?

Best regards,

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by T And T Garage on 06/05/17 at 19:50:59


7166606C6373010 wrote:
[quote author=495758595449524F3D0 link=1496700157/0#1 date=1496703395]
LOL - that's the problem with you cons... you have no idea what balance is!


The problem with the left is you have no scruples and or principles.

He is the sanctimonious socialist, the pretender, the hypocrite, the deceiver, the person whose stated believes are in direct contraction to their actions.  

How many houses do you need Bernie?

Best regards,[/quote]


Yep - typical.  Can't answer my questions.

The fact is, Sanders has never been against capitalism.  Nor has he promoted pure socialism.

Open your ears and close your mouth once in a while and you might actually learn something.

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by pg on 06/05/17 at 20:02:40


716F60616C716A77050 wrote:
Nor has he promoted pure socialism.

Open your ears and close your mouth once in a while and you might actually learn something.


He supports free tuition & health care, that constitutes socialism.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVY1-v97Mic&list=WL&index=20[/media]

Best regards,

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by T And T Garage on 06/05/17 at 20:22:35


4D5A5C505F4F3D0 wrote:
[quote author=716F60616C716A77050 link=1496700157/0#10 date=1496717459]
Nor has he promoted pure socialism.

Open your ears and close your mouth once in a while and you might actually learn something.


He supports free tuition & health care, that constitutes socialism.


Best regards,[/quote]

Are you serious?  You mean to say we've been a socialist country since the inception of Medicare and Medicaid... and public schools?....

BWAAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAAA!!!!

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by MnSpring on 06/05/17 at 20:50:12

Well to,  'Quote'  a person here,
when they say:
"Look it up for yourself, or are you to lazy"

The nation’s only socialist (he currently says democratic socialist)

The independent senator would also require disclosure of any organizations spending $10,000 or more on an election-related campaign.
     (Wait,  now he is a,  ‘Independent”,  ????????)

Sanders argues that shifting global temperatures are a significant threat and caused by human activity. He has sponsored a bill which would charge companies for their carbon emissions

Free, universal preschool. Free tuition at public colleges and universities.
Ban assault weapons. Repeal law protecting some gun manufacturers.
Launch universal, government-provided health care.

new progressive income tax, raising rates for those making over $250,000. His top individual income tax rate would be 52 percent.
      (He would certainly be affected by that,   Well Unless he   LIES  on his  T.R.)

Sanders has said the socialism he envisions is akin to that of Sweden,

Eight years later, Sanders is running on an outright socialist platform, promising a number of big-government programs that would require a massive increase in taxes, as well as a massive transference of wealth.

A President Bernie Sanders promises to “create a progressive estate tax”
       (What,  Another TAX, on money that has ALREADY, been  TAXED)

Curtailing free speech — "Criminalizing things is very much on Bernie’s agenda, beginning with the criminalization of political dissent," National Review wrote in July. "At every event he swears to introduce a constitutional amendment reversing Supreme Court decisions [like Citizens United] that affirmed the free-speech protections of people and organizations filming documentaries, organizing Web campaigns, and airing television commercials in the hopes of influencing elections or public attitudes toward public issues. That this would amount to a repeal of the First Amendment does not trouble Bernie at all.”
       (W.T.F.    !!!!!!!!!!!)

Just a few statements, from, the, Wanna, wanna, be,
who is the Idol, of someone on this forum.

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by WebsterMark on 06/06/17 at 04:42:20

You're right; I can't spell worth crap. Never have been able to. My Ipad doesn't have spell check and I was typing late last night in a hotel.

Lucky for me, the ability to spell isn't a hindrance to income. Otherwise, I'd probably be more like you. I've taken whatever limited God-given talents I have and turned them into a service in demand. You point out spelling mistakes.

Moving on; now that The Bern is about to rake in serious cash, he'll do what you or I or Trump would do: hire a tax specialist to take every possible deduction so he can keep as much of HIS money as possible. And it is HIS money, it's not mine, it's his. I want him to keep it. I want him to spend it just like I want Trump to keep his money. I and the Feds don't have a claim on it; at least not more than a small reasonable percentage for income tax. But 48% on income over 2 mil a year? You think Bernie's gonna hand over 48% if his book sells well and he makes that much? Never going to happen. Like I said, fraud.

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by T And T Garage on 06/06/17 at 05:37:27


192B2C3D3A2B3C032F3C254E0 wrote:
You're right; I can't spell worth crap. Never have been able to. My Ipad doesn't have spell check and I was typing late last night in a hotel.

Lucky for me, the ability to spell isn't a hindrance to income. Otherwise, I'd probably be more like you. I've taken whatever limited God-given talents I have and turned them into a service in demand. You point out spelling mistakes.

Moving on; now that The Bern is about to rake in serious cash, he'll do what you or I or Trump would do: hire a tax specialist to take every possible deduction so he can keep as much of HIS money as possible. And it is HIS money, it's not mine, it's his. I want him to keep it. I want him to spend it just like I want Trump to keep his money. I and the Feds don't have a claim on it; at least not more than a small reasonable percentage for income tax. But 48% on income over 2 mil a year? You think Bernie's gonna hand over 48% if his book sells well and he makes that much? Never going to happen. Like I said, fraud.


FAIL.... nice try though - lol.  Your exact words were "Bernie is perhaps the biggest fraud in politics."  You cannot qualify that.  In fact, you should probably look up the meaning of the word "fraud".

Unlike tweety, Bernie pays his taxes, sorry, but you lose.

Yeah, move on....you're done.

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by pg on 06/06/17 at 10:42:45

I repeat:

He is the sanctimonious socialist, the pretender, the hypocrite, the deceiver, the person whose stated beliefs are in direct contraction to their actions.  

How many houses do you need Bernie?

Best regards,

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by T And T Garage on 06/06/17 at 11:13:15


2E393F333C2C5E0 wrote:
I repeat:

He is the sanctimonious socialist, the pretender, the hypocrite, the deceiver, the person whose stated beliefs are in direct contraction to their actions.  

How many houses do you need Bernie?

Best regards,


LOL - repeat it as much as you want - you're still gonna be wrong!

And I repeat - ...you think that Bernie doesn't support any capitalism?  You sure about that?....  You have any proof???

LOL - that's the problem with you cons... you have no idea what balance is!

How petty the cons can be...

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by pg on 06/06/17 at 11:32:13

If he started an endowment with some of that money for scholarships I could respect that.  He bought a house and pocketed the cash!!  He is a self professed champion of wealth redistribution, just not his money.  He is a fraud, a degenerate, he exemplifies the hypocrisy of the left.  

Best regards,

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by T And T Garage on 06/06/17 at 11:39:24


7B6C6A6669790B0 wrote:
If he started an endowment with some of that money for scholarships I could respect that.  He bought a house and pocketed the cash!!  He is a self professed champion of wealth redistribution, just not his money.  He is a fraud, a degenerate, he exemplifies the hypocrisy of the left.  

Best regards,


LMAO - really??  Are you not comprehending what you write???

Seriously, get over it.  Bernie pays his taxes.  He (like any other person) can keep what he's entitled to.

Now.... you gonna show me where he says anything about pure socialism or ending capitalism?  

No?.... you're just gonna name call?....then move on.

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by pg on 06/06/17 at 12:38:36


405E51505D405B46340 wrote:
Now.... you gonna show me where he says anything about pure socialism or ending capitalism?  


Define pure socialism....  

Best regards,

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by T And T Garage on 06/06/17 at 12:58:07


3027212D2232400 wrote:
[quote author=405E51505D405B46340 link=1496700157/15#19 date=1496774364]
Now.... you gonna show me where he says anything about pure socialism or ending capitalism?  


Define pure socialism....  

Best regards,
[/quote]


No.  Qualify your statement.

"He supports free tuition & health care, that constitutes socialism."

Do you honestly think that???  Are you truly that dense??  Do you not pay attention to how the U.S. is put together??

Show me one... JUST ONE instance where Bernie wants to end capitalism.....

(that's rhetorical - you can't)

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by WebsterMark on 06/07/17 at 04:10:09

Bernie kept campaigning long after he had zero chance of winning in order to continuing making a brand out of his name. And he succeeded  based on a book deal no one will really read but will sell a couple million.

He duped enough fools into thinking his ideas were valid and doable. Free college? Seriously? The height of all stupidity is a $15 minimum wage law. he's another idiot who falls for the 78 cent an hour gender gap. Estate Taxes that of course we all know Bernie would find a way around like every rich guy who supports death taxes do. 12 weeks family leave which will soon turn into 12 paid leave. Who pays for all this?

His 15 minutes is up and he'll fade away except for college speeches at liberal universities and an occasional late night TV appearance. That will happen less and less frequently as he hires more and more tax lawyers who find a way for him to keep more and more of his money while telling me I have to pay more. Fxxx The Bern.

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by pg on 06/07/17 at 05:05:11


273936373A273C21530 wrote:
[quote author=3027212D2232400 link=1496700157/15#20 date=1496777916][quote author=405E51505D405B46340 link=1496700157/15#19 date=1496774364]
Now.... you gonna show me where he says anything about pure socialism or ending capitalism?  


Define pure socialism....  

Best regards,
[/quote]


No.  Qualify your statement.

"He supports free tuition & health care, that constitutes socialism."

Do you honestly think that???  Are you truly that dense??  Do you not pay attention to how the U.S. is put together??

Show me one... JUST ONE instance where Bernie wants to end capitalism.....
[/quote]

Quality my statement??  I asked you to provide a definition of pure socialism.  Evidently you are unable to when you yet again resort to grade school insults.  It really is a bit unbecoming.....  


Do I honestly think that?  Well it is on his website.
https://berniesanders.com/issues/its-time-to-make-college-tuition-free-and-debt-free/
https://berniesanders.com/medicareforall/

Feel feel to elaborate how the US is put together as well.  

I never said Bernie wants to end capitalism.  That was your statement, not mine.  

Best regards,

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by WebsterMark on 06/07/17 at 05:13:53

What?! TT lied!?  TT made something up out of thin air!?

I can't believe that.....  shocked, just absolutely shocked that happened....

Now you know how Bernie got as far as he did!....

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by T And T Garage on 06/07/17 at 05:41:48


2235333F3020520 wrote:
[quote author=273936373A273C21530 link=1496700157/15#21 date=1496779087][quote author=3027212D2232400 link=1496700157/15#20 date=1496777916][quote author=405E51505D405B46340 link=1496700157/15#19 date=1496774364]
Now.... you gonna show me where he says anything about pure socialism or ending capitalism?  


Define pure socialism....  

Best regards,
[/quote]


No.  Qualify your statement.

"He supports free tuition & health care, that constitutes socialism."

Do you honestly think that???  Are you truly that dense??  Do you not pay attention to how the U.S. is put together??

Show me one... JUST ONE instance where Bernie wants to end capitalism.....
[/quote]

Quality my statement??  I asked you to provide a definition of pure socialism.  Evidently you are unable to when you yet again resort to grade school insults.  It really is a bit unbecoming.....  


Do I honestly think that?  Well it is on his website.
https://berniesanders.com/issues/its-time-to-make-college-tuition-free-and-debt-free/
https://berniesanders.com/medicareforall/

Feel feel to elaborate how the US is put together as well.  

I never said Bernie wants to end capitalism.  That was your statement, not mine.  

Best regards,
[/quote]

OK - perhaps you didn't use that exact phrase... However:
"He supports free tuition & health care, that constitutes socialism." - is a FALSE statement.  It does NOT constitute socialism.

It may be socialistic, but it's not socialism.  You really need to find out what that is....

I love how the cons take everything as black and white.  There is no middle ground.  I think that's why  you're all so miserable.  None of you have any idea how this country is actually made up - you need to go find out.

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by T And T Garage on 06/07/17 at 05:44:35


7B494E5F58495E614D5E472C0 wrote:
What?! TT lied!?  TT made something up out of thin air!?

I can't believe that.....  shocked, just absolutely shocked that happened....

Now you know how Bernie got as far as he did!....


Ever heard the phrase "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"?

Well smart guy - you still haven't backed up your statement "Bernie is perhaps the biggest fraud in politics."

So?......  Who's making stuff up out of thin air, hmm?

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by WebsterMark on 06/07/17 at 09:59:53

You are.

Title: Re: Socialism For You Capitalism For Me
Post by T And T Garage on 06/07/17 at 10:25:28


013334252233241B37243D560 wrote:
You are.



LMAO!!!!!  

Wow...  too easy.

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