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Message started by alisonsup on 05/22/17 at 12:43:44

Title: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by alisonsup on 05/22/17 at 12:43:44

So I recently bought a raptor petcock to replace my failing stock petcock. When I attempted to start the bike to see how it would run i heard a click sound then everything shut off like no battery power was getting through the system to start the bike. I heard that click and power off the moment I pressed the starter button. All the lights went out, including the neutral light, and everything I have hooked up to battery wouldn't turn on. So I took my keys out and put them back in to try to start it again. Same thing happened. I figured the battery might be dead so I plugged it in for the day and tried again 2 days later. This time I pulled out the choke and it actually started and ran for about 30 seconds. After the 30secs the whole system cut off again. I tried to start it again and there was just no life at all in the bike. Is there something wrong with my starter? Do I have a short or a blown fuse?

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/22/17 at 13:00:33

You swapped out the petcock.
Suddenly the bike just isn't right.
Did you remove the tank?
Have you messed with electrical connections? If you have, gotta go check them out.
If you haven't,
You're gonna be ahead to be certain that All the connections are good,the battery is good, and just because it's been charged for two days doesn't mean it's good. It Started, but died..
Need details.
It ran. How many miles on it?Your miles?
Details about what you have done.

Everybody,

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by alisonsup on 05/22/17 at 16:08:14

It did this a few times before I replaced the petcock but it always started after I took the key out and put it back in. The battery is new. It's got about 250 miles on it. I just replaced it recently. I did not take the tank off. I pulled the petcock without taking it off. The only time I looked at the electricals is when my bike was vandalized back in November but I made sure everything was reconnected correctly. I used the manual to make sure of that. I know I didnt plug anything in wrong or not in all the way. I was thorough. Plus I have checked[ch8203] the wires since then and they're still in correctly.

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by alisonsup on 05/22/17 at 16:12:06

It just started doing this this month. This hasn't been happening for a while.

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by oldNslow on 05/22/17 at 16:25:00

Quote:

always started after I took the key out and put it back in.

Since this has happened before, the fact that the problem reoccurred just after swapping petcocks is most likely just coincidence. Based on what you've said I think the most logical suspect is the ignition switch itself.

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by Dave on 05/22/17 at 17:52:14

Check the battery connections, make sure their tight. Check the ground strap and see that it is tight down at the engine case, near the oil window. Turn the key ON....then start wiggling wires and see which one makes something happen. I would look at the electrical connector under the left side of the tank - just above the cylinder head. That one takes all the power up to the controls on the handlebars. If the tail light doesn't come on if you switch to the "park" position (opposite the OFF position.....then it is either the switch, or the battery connections....or a fuse.

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by batman on 05/24/17 at 17:08:02

You may have a bad connection at the starter coil,or it could be stuck.or it could be the starter button itself.

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/24/17 at 19:32:51

The easiest way to start troubleshooting is inspect, clean, tighten the nut electrical connections.
Look at the stuff you can get at without pulling the tank.
No joy?
Tank time.
Have a place to set it down before you pull it
The speedometer cable requires that you set the tank on something up a foot or so.
Don't lose the oring.

You should get a multimeter.

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by alisonsup on 06/01/17 at 11:37:47

I took a look at the wiring and all the connectors but nothing has changed. The bike is still not starting. I took a video of me trying to start my bike: https://youtu.be/rcu85uQtV_E

This time the power didn't cut off like before but it still wouldn't start.

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by alisonsup on 06/01/17 at 11:53:55

You can't tell but as I was trying to start the bike in the video the lights were flickering including the neutral light.

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 06/01/17 at 11:58:16

Your battery doesn't have enough current to start the bike. Charge the battery and it should be good to go.

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by SoC on 06/01/17 at 12:26:50

I'd be inclined to agree with Gary, but add, just because battery is relatively new doesn't mean it is good. If you have access to a battery load tester I would definitely have it checked. You do have to completely charge it first though. Extreme low voltage can make things behave in unusual ways. Bad lead acid batteries can have an acceptable voltage at rest, but as soon as a load is placed on it, drop through the floor. That's basically why you load test them.

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by stewmills on 06/01/17 at 12:30:18

262C28222920242D737571410 wrote:

Your battery doesn't have enough current to start the bike. Charge the battery and it should be good to go.

+1. Sounds just like not enough juice in the battery to both turn the starter and ignite the spark plug.

If you need a new battery, go with AGM. This is one that several of us have purchased with good results. http://www.batterymart.com/p-Big-Crank-ETX15L-Battery.html. The posts are slightly different than stock so you will need to bend the terminals a little to fit these style posts. Easy with a small pair of pliers.

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/01/17 at 14:29:24

Batteries have warranties because even New ones crap out.
Leaving one parked, that's a start toward the junk heap.

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by alisonsup on 06/02/17 at 11:44:55

Thanks for the replies. I charged it last night and it's started right up this morning. Ill probably be replacing[ch8203] it soon. Thanks[ch8203] again.

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/02/17 at 18:41:07

Get it tested.

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by Rodger on 06/03/17 at 06:18:01

In previous posts, I didn't see what type of battery you have in your 'cycle. Is it the OEM, "flooded-cell" lead-acid battery, or a sealed maintenance-free type?

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/03/17 at 07:21:23

I saw that it's Relatively New,, but that's not enough information. And without testing, nobody can know much.
It took a charge, so that's good.

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by alisonsup on 06/03/17 at 18:17:39

It's a sealed maintenance free battery. Im going to get it tested. I saw a battery tester on eBay for $20 I'm thinking about getting. I'll keep y'all posted.

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/04/17 at 07:18:03

Wal-Mart has a charger/tester/analyzer. Free.
If your$20.00 " Tester " is a carbon pile load and you don't know what you are doing you can hurt your battery.
Post a link.

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by alisonsup on 06/04/17 at 07:47:34

Then I'll go to Walmart. I prefer free over spending my money any day.

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/04/17 at 08:12:55

OUR Wal-Mart has one..

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by alisonsup on 06/13/17 at 09:09:27

Thanks for the replies to get it tested. The battery is no good. I'll be replacing it.

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/13/17 at 11:04:33

I had a girlfriend like that. Just no good. Got me a new one.
After 32 years I'm still not sure....

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by batman on 06/13/17 at 13:09:54

JOG ,she probably isn't either! But give it another 32 yrs and you'll probably work it out.

Title: Re: Electrical Problem - The whole system cut off
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/13/17 at 16:08:05

Well, they Say good things come to those who wait.
How wonderful must what will come be if I wait for Frikken EVER!!??!??!