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Message started by Dave on 03/20/17 at 05:14:55

Title: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 03/20/17 at 05:14:55

Pulley kit to convert your bike to run a Kawasaki 25 tooth pulley.

$165 buys a good used Kawasaki pulley that has the machined to fit the Savage and has been powdercoated black, a new locking washer, and 2 stainless screws to replace the existing screws that have tall hex heads.  Shipping is included to anywhere a USPS small Flat Rate box will go for the current $ 7.15 shipping rate.  Availability is subject to my stock of used pulleys.

NOTE: The price will be reduced to $160 if you send me a check or money order for payment and I don't have a PayPal fee deducted from your payment.  

http://i63.tinypic.com/2cqecfs.jpg

Link to Stewmills installation thread:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1484806731


This is an excellent upgrade for the stock or modified engine.  The stock Savage pulley is 23 tooth - the Kawasaki pulley is 25 tooth and provides a 8.7% overdrive - and this reduces the engine rpm at cruise.  The engine with stock gearing, 140/80-15 tire and 5 speed transmission is spinning at 4,676 rpm at 70 mph, and this pulley conversion will reduce that to 4,302 rpm.  Although that doesn't sound like much - it is more than the change when shifting from 4th to 5th gear (8.1% change).

The Kawasaki Pulley needs to be machined to fit on the Savage, both the front and back sides of the pulley have to cut down, and the metal is very hard.  

Here are photos of a used pulley before machining, and a completed pulley for comparison:

http://i68.tinypic.com/29boysy.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/sdldgn.jpg

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by stewmills on 03/22/17 at 07:51:15

Bump for Dave.

This is a relatively easy install and simple mods for the mechanically inclined. You'll be amazed at what notable difference such a small pulley upgrade can make. You won't be disappointed, and Dave's craftsmanship is top notch.  8-)

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by old.indian on 03/22/17 at 08:04:18


6E69786A707471716E1D0 wrote:
Bump for Dave.

This is a relatively easy install and simple mods for the mechanically inclined. You'll be amazed at what notable difference such a small pulley upgrade can make. You won't be disappointed, and Dave's craftsmanship is top notch.  8-)

Ditto !   Simple and worth while modification .

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by TheNaughtyLemur on 05/02/17 at 10:56:01

Does this increase the top end? Or is it just for comfort while cruising?

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 05/02/17 at 12:38:09


764A476C4357454A565B6E474F5750220 wrote:
Does this increase the top end? Or is it just for comfort while cruising?


Well....I am not sure that is a simple question to answer.....until somebody does some "actual" tests to find out.  But with a stock engine it likely won't increase the overall speed - the goal is to reduce the engine rpm when cruising in high gear at speeds over 60 mph, and make the bike better suited for long trips at elevated speeds - it will drop the engine down from 4,676 rpm at 70 mph to 4,302 rpm with the stock size tire....and that is a noticeable and welcome change.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 05/06/17 at 04:29:24

FL Savage has a pulley on the way....it was mailed yesterday.

I have finished machining the pulley for Steddy58, and I will finish the one for Jarhead CO today - then powdercoat them both....they will be mailed on Monday.

I found 2 pulleys on eBay using search words I hadn't tried before - so I will have 2 pulleys arriving next week for machining.  If you want to claim one for yourself.....let me know.

I have bumped the price up $10 to $160 as the price of used pulleys is climbing.....and if you use PayPal for payment you need to cover the fee - so the price is $165 if you use PayPal.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by dustystranger on 05/09/17 at 19:04:29

Email me at dustystranger43@gmail   with your mailing address so I can send you a money order. thanx Bill

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 05/15/17 at 03:41:21

The pulley for Jarhead-CO is supposed to arrive at his address today.

The pulley for Steddy was mailed last week - I have no idea how long it takes to arrive in the UK.

The pulleys for JLC and dustystranger have a bit more machining and then the powdercoating.  I got all if the backside and some of the front done this weekend.....sharpening the cutting bits takes a bit of time as they are carbide, and I dull 5 bits with each pulley.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 05/17/17 at 05:35:50

Well I had a little setback last night.  I tried sharpening the cutting tools to a nice sharp point.....I took extra time to get them really sharp and at a really tight point.  They cut really well and the chips were great and they were cutting really smoothly.....for about 6 passes each.  Evidently the sharp point dulls really fast - all 5 of them became dull while cutting the front side of a single pulley...and it still needs about 10 more passes to get if finished.  I have a meeting tonight and won't be able to work on it tonight - so I will sharpen the bits and finish the machining on Thursday night, and I will get them powder coated over the weekend and ship them on Monday.    

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Jarhead-CO on 05/18/17 at 17:13:27

I have a pulley that Dave shipped me last week. I traded my S40 in if anyone is interested or if you want it back to ship to someone else let me know.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 05/19/17 at 04:04:03


310514060608105B5A630 wrote:
I have a pulley that Dave shipped me last week. I traded my S40 in if anyone is interested or if you want it back to ship to someone else let me know.


The market for good used pulleys is not good at the moment, and I have sold and machined every one that I have - so if somebody needs a pulley right away - buy the one that Jarhead-CO has.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by stewmills on 05/19/17 at 07:01:37

...What Dave said. I just got back from a trip to the mountains with a group of about 30 big Harley's and other big bikes. With my recently installed KAW pulley I hung right there with them all weekend and rarely ever touched 5th gear (now known as 'overdrive').

If you think you want one, get it. You won't be disappointed!

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Eegore on 05/19/17 at 07:21:17

 I sent a PM, just awaiting a reply.

 I might not get it on my current bike but I can toss it on another.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Jarhead-CO on 05/19/17 at 21:08:56


0121232B3621440 wrote:
 I sent a PM, just awaiting a reply.

 I might not get it on my current bike but I can toss it on another.

Hey sorry I got mandated so had to work 16 hours today, I had one person PM me before you if he backs out I'll let you know tomorrow.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Eegore on 05/19/17 at 22:15:34


 Just tell him I outbid him!

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by JLC on 05/24/17 at 17:41:14

Just received the Kawasaki pulley... very well modified indeed. Thanks.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 05/24/17 at 17:57:17


13151A590 wrote:
Just received the Kawasaki pulley... very well modified indeed. Thanks.


Sorry that it took me so long to get it machined and powder coated.....I have gotten slammed at my day job and I had to fit the work in when I could squeeze in 20 or 30 minutes at a time.

As much as you like this pulley now - you will love it once you have it installed! :)


Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by xaman on 05/24/17 at 20:04:27

Any thoughts on this mod for a bike that sees gravel?  I realize a chain conversion is probably the best for a scrambler style bike, but I do like the low maintenance of the belt.  My concern is not so much tearing a belt, but the increase diameter of the pulley, pulling rocks etc to close to the case?

Also, is anyone running this mod with 340mm shocks?

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 05/25/17 at 04:23:15

Yes, I have this pulley on my Cafe' bike with the 340mm shocks, and it works fine.  You do need to run the belt a bit looser with any of the longer shocks, as the increased swing arm angle at rest results in the belt getting tighter as the shocks compress.  I recommend that you put the bike on a jack, remove the shocks, and then lower the bike until there is a straight line between the swing arm pivot point, the swing arm, and the rear axle.  When all 3 of these are in a straight line - that is the point at which the belt will be the tightest.  Adjust the belt tension at this point, then jack the bike up and put the shocks back on - then see how much play is in the belt.....and keep the belt adjusted at that amount of play thereafter.

I don't know exactly to tell you about gravel.  I have ridden on gravel roads once or twice a year - but I don' make a habit of it.  The front pulley is not likely to get any gravel in it, as the belt engages at the top.  The rear pulley is most apt to get gravel, as the belt enters at the bottom.  If a piece of gravel is small enough to get embedded into a groove in the rubber belt - it likely will pass through at the front pulley.  There have been members that get gravel stuck in the pulley or the belt, and sometimes it will make a hole in the belt.  Youzuguyz in Texas rides on gravel roads frequently, and he has the stock belt guards in place and he has never reported having frequent problems.


I was able to find another used pulley and it was delivered yesterday.  Part of the process involves cleaning the pulley when it arrives, and getting these clean enough to powder coat does take a considerable amount of time and effort.  The Kawasaki donor bikes evidently don't have oil seals that keep all the oil inside the engine!  This is good news as the pulleys are never very rusty - but it is a chore to clean them up.  It often includes a week soaking in gasoline, a scrubbing,pressure washing, cleaning in my ultrasonic cleanser, and a bit more scrubbing!  It is time consuming to get the dirt out of the corners of all those teeth - the 25 teeth have 100 corners to clean!

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Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by xaman on 05/25/17 at 11:17:36

Thanks for the reply Dave.  

Got mine installed this morning, impressive craftsmanship.   Test ride will have to wait until tonight or tomorrow, so I'll post impressions afterward.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Jarhead-CO on 05/25/17 at 11:51:39


4A535F535C320 wrote:
Thanks for the reply Dave.  

Got mine installed this morning, impressive craftsmanship.   Test ride will have to wait until tonight or tomorrow, so I'll post impressions afterward.

Man you didn't waste any time I'm assuming it showed up Wednesday then since the post office said thursday.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by xaman on 05/25/17 at 18:49:33


794D5C4E4E405813122B0 wrote:
[quote author=4A535F535C320 link=1490012095/15#19 date=1495736256]

Man you didn't waste any time I'm assuming it showed up Wednesday then since the post office said thursday.



Yes sir, it surprised me and arrived Wednesday evening.  

I snuck in a 15 mile test this evening, and preliminarily I'm super pleased as it seems to have made a significant difference in relaxed top speed, without a huge or very noticeable loss in low speed torque.  I really like it, feels like the engine was made for this gearing.

The only downer is that the speedo, which has been spot on before, is now reading about 6 mph slow at 55.  That's going to be important for me to remember.  This is my back road bike, which necessarily involves small town speed zones and lots of school zones.  I need to be careful now.

Thumbs up on the upgrade for anyone "thinking" about it.  


Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by xaman on 06/29/17 at 19:51:56

Just a quick endorsement -- in the last 4 weeks I've put just over 2000 miles on a trip with the new pulley, in almost every foreseeable riding situation (at least that I'm likely to encounter -- flats, mountains, twisty, straight, gravel, uphill, etc).  It's a fantastic upgrade, worth every penny.

The only time I even thought about it was on a steep rutted/gravel incline and I had to slip the clutch a hint in first.  No problem.  The new overdrive gear in 5th is worth any slight inconvenience in first.  

Beautiful mod, thanks Dave. (And Jarhead for the nice deal).  :)

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by bradyGOAT on 07/06/17 at 09:51:42

Hey Dave,

Do you have any available, and what is the estimated time it takes to create/ship/receive this mod? Thanks!

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 07/06/17 at 11:26:58

I have a few pulleys ready to machine the next rainy day.  Seeing as you are planning a road trip.....I will be sure to get one machined for you this weekend.

The mailing generally only takes a couple days to most anywhere in the US....unless you are "waaaaay" out west.

Dave

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by bradyGOAT on 07/06/17 at 13:13:53


69525F4859554E48535B56493A0 wrote:
I have a few pulleys ready to machine the next rainy day.  Seeing as you are planning a road trip.....I will be sure to get one machined for you this weekend.

The mailing generally only takes a couple days to most anywhere in the US....unless you are "waaaaay" out west.

Dave


Awesome! I'm new to the buying process here...should I PM you my email? Thanks

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 07/06/17 at 13:21:04

You can't PM anything until you get to 10 posts (you have 2 more to go).

If you click on my name at the left side of anything I post.....it will show you my email address and you can email me.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by 2nosabes on 07/08/17 at 20:56:14

I have a quick question for you!

Compared to the stock S40 pulley how much more closer does it bring the rear tire to the front of the swingarm?

I will be running  a 150/90 rear tire and that alone can be an issue clearing. I have not mounted it yet but from some quick measurements it will be tight  ;D

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by badwolf on 07/08/17 at 21:22:51

I run a 150/90 15 rear on mine, but I have changed BOTH pulleys. With both Kaw pulleys,25 and 65, the axle moves BACK about 4mm. With just the front pulley changed I think it moves the axle forward about 3-4mm. MMranch runs a 25 front pulley and a 140/90 15 rear and he is close. With a 150 you will be REAL close, if not rubbing. You may have to mod the swingarm some for clearance. Also you will have to swap out some bolts up under the rear fender for button heads.  I run a cast 3.5'' wide rear rim, with the stock rim you will get a un-natural profile with a 150 tire. Also, when the tire is new it will be taller than after a couple thousand miles.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by badwolf on 07/08/17 at 21:30:20

Also, you may have a problem rubbing on the front of the rear fender.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by badwolf on 07/11/17 at 16:56:51

Today I got a chance to measure the axle movement changing pulleys.
25 tooth front pulley with stock 68 tooth rear pulley = moves the axle FORWARD 5mm from stock. (23 x 68)
25 tooth front pulley with 65 tooth rear pulley = moves the axle TO THE REAR 6mm from stock.
The final drive ratios are =
23 x 68 = 2.98 to 1
25 x 68 = 2.72 to 1
25 x 65 = 2.60 to 1
Remember, the stock speedo runs off the output shaft of the tranny. If you change the final drive AND OR the size of your rear tire you are messing with the speedo accuracy. Having said that, most folks say their stock speedo is off anyway. Download a GPS speedo app for your phone and use some cardboard and duct tape to mount it over your handlebar clamps and check the stock speedo before and after. You can use some white tape to cover the numbers and waterproof marker to make new ones.
After changing both pulleys and a 150/90 15 rear tire I went 100 miles on the stocker and the GPS said 123!
23% off, at 50 indicated I was really going 62!
Now at 60 I am only turning 3400 rpm vs 4100 stock. 4100 now pushes me along at 72.
Did I loose some quick acceleration, yes. But now it is very happy on the SS at 65 - 70 all day.  
Look at your bike like clay or just raw material you can mold to suit YOUR needs. You can build a bobber for bar hopping or short rides, a cafe bike for carving the twisties, or even a little bagger like mine for long trips. Too many people buy a bike on looks or price without planning what they want to do with it, then whine when it won't do everything perfect for them.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by bradyGOAT on 08/08/17 at 09:59:22

I was able to get this installed in about 2.5 hours with the help of my Dad who also knows next to nothing about bikes...just needed that old man intuition. It's definitely a 2-man job if you're doing this in the backyard using cinderblocks as lifts.

We didn't need to file down any of the belt covers, only that elbow joint so the pulley fits with enough space. At first I thought we needed to after hearing some scraping, but I forgot a rubber casket on the pulley case. Putting that back in fixed the problem.

The hardest part was getting the darn pulley on with the belt. It took some wiggling, cussing, and a little bang from a rubber mallet to get it on.

Remember to put your bike in neutral!!

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 08/08/17 at 10:47:21


362635302D131B1500540 wrote:
I was able to get this installed in about 2.5 hours with the help of my Dad who also knows next to nothing about bikes...just needed that old man intuition. It's definitely a 2-man job if you're doing this in the backyard using cinderblocks as lifts.


If you ever do it again....it will go much faster.  With a proper jack, impact wrench, a dremel, and 4 - 5 previous conversions for practice......you can get it done it 30 minutes!

Anxious to hear your ride report...remember that your speedometer will not be reading your true speed anymore.  Check it with a GPS to find out how fast you are really going.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by TestPro on 11/22/17 at 13:24:40

Is the pulley upgrade still available?

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 11/23/17 at 05:53:10


1E1C4E4547491C1A2C0 wrote:
Is the pulley upgrade still available?


I will be able to get some machined in January.  The next few weeks are just too hectic for me to spend any time in the garage at the lathe  The holidays and my upcoming retirement have me just too busy in December - I will be working half as many hours once January has arrived.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by TestPro on 12/01/17 at 14:28:29

Thanks for the response. I definitely want one next year. Keep me posted.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 12/14/17 at 07:18:05

I have been able to buy enough pulleys from eBay this summer to keep me busy at the lathe this winter.....I expect that by mid-January I will be able to start making the pulleys and get some ready for those who want them.

Dave

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by TestPro on 12/26/17 at 08:00:38

Thanks for the update!
Will be watching for the announcement of their availability.
Have a great, safe and profitable New Year.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Rodger on 12/31/17 at 11:51:18

Will be looking forward to the new batch of pulleys!

Best of luck with new "almost-retirement," Dave.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 01/01/18 at 03:43:45

I should be able to get some pulleys made this month.


Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by GT61 TURBO ZX14 on 01/09/18 at 21:46:32

I will take one and do you know where I can get a rear pulley

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 01/10/18 at 03:37:55


2D01120B372701151408090512600 wrote:
I will take one and do you know where I can get a rear pulley


The rear pulley to buy is a Kawasaki KZ750 pulley.  It is not a bolt on and it has to be drilled for the different mounting bolt circle of the LS650 pulley hub, and the pulley hub needs a spacer made and the mounting surface needs to be machined to provide for the different offset of the Kawasaki Pulley.  The rear shock mount also needs to be cut down to provide for clearance for the pulley.  I have an extra that I have machined, and I also machine a bushing to prevent the "pulley wobble" and wear on the pulley hub bearing.  I will have to think a bit about what I would need to charge for this.....it most lilkey requires 4 hours of my time to get all this work done....plus the price of the pulley, shock bolt, new pulley hub bearing and brass for the pushing.

Here is a link to the thread on the front and rear pulley process.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1384949185/0

Here is a link to a rear pulley on eBay.  If you are going to do the work yourself this is a pretty common price for one - they seem to come up for sale once or twice a year.  (If you want to buy mine....I already have one that has been converted).

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-KAWASAKI-KZ750-DRIVE-BELT-PULLEY-AND-HUB/302441825740?hash=item466af005cc:g:qUIAAOSwJeZZrxuG:sc:USPSPriority!41071!US!-1&vxp=mtr

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 01/14/18 at 15:48:05

OK......it snowed on Friday and got really cold - so I locked myself in the garage and ignored the wife and dog for 2 days and got a batch of pulleys done.

If you want one.....I have 5 that can be shipped out as soon as I get the short head screws for the oil seal retainer (I am out of those).  The pulleys would most likely ship the next day after you pay.

If you want one - send $165 to PayPal at:dwhitacre@cardinalengineering.net

Don't forget to send me your mailing address.

If you want to pay by check....send $160.
Dave Whitacre, 7256 Kohls Road, Melbourne, KY 41059

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by GT61 TURBO ZX14 on 01/14/18 at 16:20:29


09323F2839352E28333B36295A0 wrote:
OK......it snowed on Friday and got really cold - so I locked myself in the garage and ignored the wife and dog for 2 days and got a batch of pulleys done.

If you want one.....I have 5 that can be shipped out as soon as I get the short head screws for the oil seal retainer (I am out of those).  The pulleys would most likely ship the next day after you pay.

If you want one - send $165 to PayPal at:dwhitacre@cardinalengineering.net

Don't forget to send me your mailing address.

If you want to pay by check....send $160.
Dave Whitacre, 7256 Kohls Road, Melbourne, KY 41059


How do you want us to send it on PayPal ?

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Rodger on 01/14/18 at 19:55:26

A check for $160 Will be in the mail tomorrow, Dave!  :)

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by GT61 TURBO ZX14 on 01/14/18 at 23:37:18


5C676A7D6C607B7D666E637C0F0 wrote:
OK......it snowed on Friday and got really cold - so I locked myself in the garage and ignored the wife and dog for 2 days and got a batch of pulleys done.

If you want one.....I have 5 that can be shipped out as soon as I get the short head screws for the oil seal retainer (I am out of those).  The pulleys would most likely ship the next day after you pay.

If you want one - send $165 to PayPal at:dwhitacre@cardinalengineering.net

Don't forget to send me your mailing address.

If you want to pay by check....send $160.
Dave Whitacre, 7256 Kohls Road, Melbourne, KY 41059




P.m sent

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by GT61 TURBO ZX14 on 01/14/18 at 23:44:41

I have sent the money by PayPal I hope I did it right

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 01/15/18 at 03:43:04

Current pulley status:

Bobber - request made.

Rodger - Check being sent.

GT61 TURBO ZX14 - Payment received.

I have 2 left that are not yet promised - used pulleys only show up every couple of months.....so I only get the chance to make about 6 of these each year. (Buying new pulleys would add about $50 - $60 to the cost of the pulleys).

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by TestPro on 01/15/18 at 12:32:58

Will get the check sent as soon a I get home from work today.

Thanks

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 01/15/18 at 13:00:49

Current pulley status:

Bobber - request made.

Rodger - Check being sent.

Testpro - Payment received.

GT61 TURBO ZX14 - Payment received.

I have one more machined pulley left that is not promised.
(I have 2 pulleys that are being shipped and need modified).

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by TestPro on 01/15/18 at 16:45:04

PayPal sent for Pulley.

(Payment Received.....Dave)

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by GT61 TURBO ZX14 on 01/16/18 at 02:44:13

When will they ship

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 01/16/18 at 04:21:52


1935263F03133521203C3D3126540 wrote:
When will they ship


Today......the Post Office was closed yesterday for MLK day.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 01/16/18 at 05:41:02

For those who are getting the new pulleys - here is the thread for the installation as prepared by Stewmills.  It is really important to get the nut torqued properly, and good threadlocker on clean threads, and crimp 2 sides of the locking tab - a loose nut is a really bad thing as it can ruin the output shaft (even on a stock pulley).

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1484806731

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by TestPro on 01/17/18 at 10:24:26

Do you know the sizes for the upper shaft cover bolt and the upper-right transmission bolt that were replaced with the button-head allens?
The metric size #, the length of the two bolts, and thread pitch - assume M.
Thanks in advance!

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 01/17/18 at 14:06:24

The bolts are both 6x1.0 thread - the top one is 12mm long and the bottom one is 30mm long.

I include both of them in the kit, along with a new locking tab washer.

The only thing you need is threadlocker....and I use the "red" permanent kind (and I think Suzuki does to).

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by TestPro on 01/17/18 at 17:10:57

Thank you for supplying these bolts.
I find it always good to ask a question and not be surprised. ;)

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 01/18/18 at 03:18:30

GT61 TURBO ZX14 and Testpro should get their pulleys delivered today (provided the crappy weather hasn't delayed the USPS delivery).

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by GT61 TURBO ZX14 on 01/18/18 at 09:13:37

I will let you know as soon as I get it.

Check your PMs and emails

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Bobber on 01/18/18 at 13:32:05

Dave

Sent the check today!  Paypal and me aren't friends.  Looking foward to it

Regards

Bobber

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by GT61 TURBO ZX14 on 01/18/18 at 17:32:50

Got it today

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by TestPro on 01/19/18 at 11:08:05

Received the pulley, nice work.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 01/19/18 at 11:24:26


1614464D4F411412240 wrote:
Received the pulley, nice work.


You'll like it even more once you get it mounted.....and go for a ride! :)

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Rodger on 01/19/18 at 16:23:52

Dropped my check in the mail on 15 January, Dave. Please let me know when you receive it...thanks.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 01/25/18 at 04:58:59

All pulleys have been shipped, Rodger and Bobber will get their pulleys by Monday, Jan. 29th.

I have 1 completed pulley left in this batch that is unsold and available.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Bobber on 01/25/18 at 17:02:35

Thanks Dave, looking forward to it!

Regards,

Bobber

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Rodger on 01/25/18 at 17:33:40

Cool! Thanks for the update, Dave

Update: package arrived, guess I know what's on my weekend agenda!  :)

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by TestPro on 03/03/18 at 09:20:10

Just an update...
Installed the pulley and after a slight break in went for some log rides. Here in South FL there are a lot of long straight roads that "Milwaukee's finest" like to blow you off as they pass. Well, the "bagger boogie" will never change but I have been getting a few "what the hell is that" when parked. Seems they have to use just a bit more throttle as they pass. The pulley has made my "half Harley" cruise at a respectable speed with a loot less RPMs. Recommend this upgrade to anybody with the desire to step up the long rides.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 11/05/18 at 03:46:04

Armen came through and made a couple of pulleys to take up the slack until winter sets in and I can get into the garage.  I cleaned them up and powder coated them, and both sets will include the screws.  I currently only have 1 lock washer - I have ordered more (if you get the pulley before I receive my new washers, I will mail it as soon as it arrives).

Same $165 includes shipping to the mainland 48 states.

http://i64.tinypic.com/2resly9.jpg

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Mechaniac on 11/06/18 at 20:44:05

Is there any price adjustment if one has a good core pulley to send you?

Thanks,
Venron

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 11/07/18 at 02:51:29


5A72747F76797E7674170 wrote:
Is there any price adjustment if one has a good core pulley to send you?

Thanks,
Venron


Sure....and if you don't want it cleaned, powder coated and made pretty, that could save you money as well.  I have to first soak the pulleys in gasoline too loosen up the oil and dirt, then a few hours in the ultrasonic cleaner, then a good scrubbing, then a bath in acid to remove any traces of oil and etch the surface so the powder will stick, then a short bake in the oven to make sure it is completely dry, and then powder coating and curing in the oven....it takes a long time to get them cleaned and powder coated.

I pay up to $50 on eBay for used pulleys and shipping.  Part of the whole process also involves driving 1 hour round trip to the only hardware store that I can buy the panhead screws, ordering the lock washers from Suzuki, watching eBay and buy/pay for the pulleys as part of the cost, and making mailing labels and packing everything up and driving to the Post Office - but it all takes time.  I buy the lock washers and screw sets in batches of 10.....and sometimes that causes a real problem for Suzuki as even they don't seem to stock that many in their warehouse at one time.

If you want me to do your pulley - if you send it to me I can do it for $120.  Without cleanup and powder coating it would be $90.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Mechaniac on 11/07/18 at 05:13:40

Thank you for the thorough reply Dave, it clears things up well.  Please don't think I would like to beat you out of money, I appreciate your efforts on this mod and feel you should be rewarded.  I wouldn't have known to do it and what to look for if not for you.  I only sought out a decent one myself because you were in a out of stock period and it is something I can have done with my contacts etc.  But when I see you had a couple available I know the value of time saved to just swap out with you.  I run an auto shop and many friends and long time customers know I can restore or build custom powertrains that fulfill a purpose very well but I've started curtailing that due to the fact that it takes too much time away from everything else and the profit level isn't on par with a brake job on a Hyundai.  If you're caught up with your Summertime things and ready to go back into your workshop I'll be glad to send mine to you for the rework and pay you, it's still probably the best value short of doing it myself which I can't fully.  I need to get going to work but I'll get with you soon.

Reguards,
Vernon

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Mechaniac on 11/07/18 at 19:20:42

I received you PM Dave but I'm to new on the forum to reply.  I will send you my pulleys for a full rework with a note concerning an alternate rear pulley source to see what you think.

Thanks

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 11/11/18 at 03:51:07


765E58535A55525A583B0 wrote:
I received you PM Dave but I'm to new on the forum to reply.  I will send you my pulleys for a full rework with a note concerning an alternate rear pulley source to see what you think.

Thanks



OK - The only alternate rear pulley that I know of right now, is the KZ750 pulley.  It has a nice gearing change - but it is cast iron and does add a few pounds of weight to the rear wheel.  Badwolf and I run our's all the time - MM uses his now and then. It does require a fair amount of work to get it working on the Savage - but is worthwhile if you do a lot of highway riding at 70 mph.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Armen on 11/11/18 at 11:47:00

Another way to achieve taller gearing is going to a larger rear wheel. I'm running an 18" on mine in place of the stock 15". I did have to modify the swingarm to clear the tire.
-Armen

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 11/12/18 at 07:41:52


6F5C434B402E0 wrote:
I'm running an 18" on mine in place of the stock 15". I did have to modify the swingarm to clear the tire.
-Armen


What size tire are you running?  A 130/70-18 will fit without modifying the swing arm for clearance.....some of the larger diameter tires like a 4.00-18 may be too big.

The front Kawasaki pulley requires moving the rear axle all the way forward and will reduce tire clearance - the double pulley conversion moves the axle all the way back and provides more tire clearance.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Armen on 11/12/18 at 17:51:01

I modified the swingarm. Moved the arc of the old brace forward, and added a second brace.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Mechaniac on 11/12/18 at 18:44:34

Dave I still can't PM so I found your email (thumpinspecial) and sent you a comprehensive one, so if you don't see it check your junk box or give me another Email and I'll resend it.

Thanks,
Vernon

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 01/10/19 at 04:18:36

Bump:

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Mechaniac on 02/10/19 at 18:30:21

I got this pulley installed and it works great.  After a recent carb recalibration our LS650 was begging for another gear on the highway.  I have had a Dave's Cool Stuff pulley on hand for over a month then we got slow on a cold day so I went ahead and put it on the bike to keep busy.  It went just as described with slight clearancing as needed, only a little tricky getting the pulley slid on the output shaft as the belt was just getting snug.  A little light pressure from a prybar and some patience and it went right on.  I had to wait a few days for weather that allowed a ride but it was sweet.  It no longer seems rushed to get through the gears.  Each gear takes a little time at normal accelleration to go through and carrys more speed.  It's a much more natural feel much like my V4 Magna.  Each gear now has it's own purpose in life instead of tripping over each other.  60 MPH+ is more relaxed, bigger bike feel that was missing before.  I don't have the rear pulley changed yet but I'm working on that, but just the front alone is very worthwhile.  In short I love this mod and give a big thanks to Dave for developing it and then offering it to the rest of us.  I highly recommend it to any Savage owner.

Vernon

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 02/18/19 at 09:23:52

[split] [splithere] (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1550367430)[splithere_end]

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by HaiKara on 06/26/19 at 07:45:40


48737E6978746F69727A77681B0 wrote:
Bump:


How long is the usual turn-around from start to finish (shipping and installation not included)?


Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 06/27/19 at 14:15:35


0920280A203320410 wrote:
[quote author=48737E6978746F69727A77681B0 link=1490012095/75#78 date=1547122716]Bump:


How long is the usual turn-around from start to finish (shipping and installation not included)?

[/quote]


I got one sitting on the shelf, in a box....ready to ship on Monday (when I return from vacationing with the wife and dog).

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by HaiKara on 06/28/19 at 08:24:03


72494453424E555348404D52210 wrote:
[quote author=0920280A203320410 link=1490012095/75#81 date=1561560340][quote author=48737E6978746F69727A77681B0 link=1490012095/75#78 date=1547122716]Bump:


How long is the usual turn-around from start to finish (shipping and installation not included)?

[/quote]


I got one sitting on the shelf, in a box....ready to ship on Monday (when I return from vacationing with the wife and dog).[/quote]

PM'd

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Brian B on 07/25/19 at 18:45:11

Do you have any pulleys in stock?

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Brian B on 08/29/19 at 10:30:31

Got the pulley today and installed in just under an hour with the help of Stewmills instillation guide, an electric impact and ratchet.  Only takin it for a small cruise so far, but the results were nice.  Can’t wait to try it out at highway speeds!  

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by stewmills on 08/29/19 at 11:46:53

You won't be disappointed. 5th gear is now an "overdrive" gear that you really don't use unless you are going 55mph+ on the highway...and you'll be cruising at 70mph without noticing.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by raggedred on 02/03/20 at 11:42:30

how do i order a 25t pully using paypal

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by stewmills on 02/04/20 at 11:55:58

Dave will tell ya shortly.  He will let you know what he has in stock and give you his paypal info via PM or email. It isn't "published" here as far as I know.

If you need my instructional pics for the install let me know.  That thread was messed up when tinypics shut down and I haven't revived the pics there on that thread yet.

UPDATE:  Fixed my instructional images.  Should be all set here:
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1484806731

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 02/06/20 at 15:31:31

I am out of town and will be back in a couple days.

I will update the thread and payment details.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 02/09/20 at 16:49:16

Here is an update to the pulley kit listing to convert your bike to run a Kawasaki 25 tooth pulley.  I have 5 pulleys left, 2 are complete, 1 is machined and needs to be powder coated, and 2 have been cleaned up but have not been machined or coated.  When these 5 are gone it will be the last I make - I need to work on my own projects and stop spending my hours working for others.....I have too many of my own project that are not getting done.

$165 buys a good used Kawasaki pulley that has the machined to fit the Savage and has been powder coated black, a new locking washer, and 2 stainless screws to replace the existing screws that have tall hex heads.  Shipping is included to anywhere a USPS small Flat Rate box will go for the current $ 7.15 shipping rate.  Availability is subject to my stock of used pulleys.

NOTE: The price will be reduced to $160 if you send me a check or money order for payment and I don't have a PayPal fee deducted from your payment.  


Link to Stewmills installation thread:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1484806731


This is an excellent upgrade for the stock or modified engine.  The stock Savage pulley is 23 tooth - the Kawasaki pulley is 25 tooth and provides a 8.7% overdrive - and this reduces the engine rpm at cruise.  The engine with stock gearing, 140/80-15 tire and 5 speed transmission is spinning at 4,676 rpm at 70 mph, and this pulley conversion will reduce that to 4,302 rpm.  Although that doesn't sound like much - it is more than the change when shifting from 4th to 5th gear (8.1% change).

The Kawasaki Pulley needs to be machined to fit on the Savage, both the front and back sides of the pulley have to cut down, and the metal is very hard.  

Here is a photo of a used pulley before machining, and a completed pulley for comparison.  On the front side all of the metal needs to be removed until it is just a bit below the flat surface.


Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 02/09/20 at 16:49:41

Backside of Pulley there is less machining - about half of the material gets removed.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Armen on 02/10/20 at 06:05:08

Nice pics, Dave!
If anyone is going to try this themselves, understand that the splined area is quite hard. The rest of the metal cuts pretty easily, but as you get to the hardened part things get nasty in a hurry. I used indexible carbide inserts, and even they get murdered.
Dave made a mandrel out of a trans shaft. I cut a few of them merely holding the pulley in a three jaw chuck on the lathe and taking small bites.
After having one sail out of the chuck and do some damage, I decided this wasn't the smartest approach, and made a proper jig to hold the pulley in the lathe.
I also tried doing this on a milling machine, but never had satisfactory results. Prob just me, I'm sire someone can do it.
I've even considered cutting away most of the metal with an abrasive wheel or carbide burr. Both would be pretty noisy and messy, so I didn't.
Thanks to Dave for coming up with this mod and handling the sales!
-Armen

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Banzai310 on 02/10/20 at 15:54:58

Sign me up, I’ll take one! Sent you a PM Dave to get the PayPal email address.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 02/11/20 at 14:24:26

Banzai:

Pulley shipped.

Now only 4 left.

Dave

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Jdvt600 on 05/26/20 at 12:16:44


6B505D4A5B574C4A5159544B380 wrote:
Banzai:

Pulley shipped.

Now only 4 left.

Dave


Dave,

Do you still have these pulleys?

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 05/26/20 at 14:02:17

Yep, I currently have 2 kits all packed up and ready to ship.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Jdvt600 on 05/26/20 at 18:50:17

PM sent. Just need the paypal address. I can't seem to locate it on the forums.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Armen on 06/03/20 at 21:39:10

So, when I was still at the shop with a big honking South Bend lathe, I'd just grab the pulley in a 3-jaw chuck and spin away. Did a bunch that way, until one day I took too big a bite and the pulley went sailing. Luckily, no damage or death done.
Dug around and found some aluminum scrap and made a simple jig to hold the Kawasaki pulley. Made match marks, and notes as to the offset/depth desired. Made a few more with the jig.
So, now comes the time to try it on my much smaller home lathe. Happy to say, it worked out just fine. i had found a dirty-but-happy Kawi pulley on eBay, and set it up. Only tough part is cutting near the splines as they are hardened. Indexible carbide insert cutters and the appropriate amount of foul language, and all is done!
So, the good news is that the pulleys will still be produced. Talk to Dave as he has the whole kit of hardware and such.
thanks,
-Armen

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by zevenenergie on 06/04/20 at 03:22:38

Great work [smiley=thumbup.gif]

For hardened steel I use CBN insurts, it costs about € 30,- new, but I buy them second hand from a machine factory, that changes them after half an hour of work, whether they are worn or not.
And then they only cost € 5, -

You can even cut carbite whit CBN.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Armen on 06/04/20 at 05:19:43

Awesome! Thanks for the hint! I'll look for some.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Jdvt600 on 06/04/20 at 16:08:28

Pulley is installed and the bike runs extremely well. Like others have said, should have come from the factory geared this way.


Thanks to Dave for the top notch customer support and getting it shipped out so soon!

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by mrpete on 04/24/21 at 16:49:16

Hey Sir,

I'd like to order a front pulley if you have any in stock.

What is the best way to get you the cash?

Thanks in advance,
-Pete

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Armen on 04/24/21 at 19:23:36

Mrpete,
Dave should have the last of them. If he is out, I can modify another.
thanks

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 04/25/21 at 03:34:08

Mrpete:

I have one in stock, packed in a box, and ready to ship.

I have sent you a personal message with my email address:

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by mrpete on 04/25/21 at 20:24:52

Gotta find out where the wife hid the stamps...


7D4E5159523C0 wrote:
Mrpete,
Dave should have the last of them. If he is out, I can modify another.
thanks


Armen, thanks for the offer...this is a great community.  

-Pete

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Thumperman on 11/17/21 at 07:17:48

I need one of thes pulley kits. Are they still available?

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Armen on 11/18/21 at 01:32:49

Talk to David.
If he is out of them, I have one left I can machine.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 11/21/21 at 01:56:53

I have one left that I could machine - but my mother is in hospice and it is not a good time for me to be standing in front of a lathe.

Armen would be the best source for a pulley at this time.

Dave

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Armen on 11/21/21 at 04:28:35

Dave,
So sorry to hear about your mom. She is lucky to have you near.
take care,

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Armen on 11/21/21 at 08:33:09

Hey Thumperman,
I'll get one done soon. It won't be as pretty s the ones Dave did, because he powder coats his.
PM me an address.
thanks
-Armen

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Thumperman on 12/02/21 at 12:09:38

Thanks Armen, no problem I can powder coat.
Please let me know when it ships.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 02/25/22 at 06:14:14

I currently have one pulley available to ship immediately - and I believe Armen might have 1 or 2.

Finished pulley and parts on left........unmodified Kawasaki pulley on right.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Armen on 02/25/22 at 07:37:53

Anyone who wants one, buy Dave’s. It looks better.
I have a few that are ready to ship. But they aren’t painted. They work just fine, though.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by kirsties40 on 08/14/22 at 11:54:40

Hello,

I'm looking to buy one of these pulleys for my wife's '05 S40. We are riding together all around the state of WA this Summer and really could use this for the interstate. She already has a 140/90 M888 and this would compliment well.

Thanks yall!

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Armen on 08/14/22 at 12:16:27

Hey Dave!
Have any left?
If not, I have a bunch.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 08/15/22 at 18:03:22

I do believe I have one packed up and ready to ship.......I will look.

If Armen wants to sell you one - that is OK with me.

Dave

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Armen on 08/15/22 at 18:20:00

Def buy Dave’s. His are prettier :-)

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by kirsties40 on 08/15/22 at 22:51:37

If they both function and hold up the same, I'll take whichever is cheaper.

Let me know how you prefer payment and I'll send it asap.

Thank you both for your willingness to step up to the plate!

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Armen on 08/16/22 at 05:48:48

Same price. His look nicer.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 08/16/22 at 14:34:38

$165 and it includes a new locking tab, and 2 stainless screws with flatter heads to provide more clearance.  The pulley is machined, cleaned and powder coated black.

My PayPal is:  Thumpinspecial@gmail.com

Be sure to include the proper shipping address (I have had problems when PayPal sends me an out of date shipping address that the buyer has not changed when he moved 6 years earlier).

Dave

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by kirsties40 on 08/20/22 at 11:04:03

Roger that. I didn't notice this comment on the new page. I'll get the payment sent to you asap.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Yazman on 09/29/22 at 11:40:32

Maybe this is a weird question, but has anyone ever found/made a smaller front sprocket? I never go over 60mph, so I'd love more acceleration. I've ever heard of 23T and 25T.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 10/02/22 at 04:41:23

Nope - no smaller front sprocket that I am aware of.

If you want more acceleration - don't use the larger 140/90-15 rear tire and stay with a 130/90-15 size which is almost exactly the same size as the 140/80-15 that was original equipment.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by BobberFR on 10/07/22 at 02:38:00


7C474A5D4C405B5D464E435C2F0 wrote:
$165 and it includes a new locking tab, and 2 stainless screws with flatter heads to provide more clearance.  The pulley is machined, cleaned and powder coated black.

My PayPal is:  Thumpinspecial@gmail.com

Be sure to include the proper shipping address (I have had problems when PayPal sends me an out of date shipping address that the buyer has not changed when he moved 6 years earlier).

Dave


Hi Dave [ch128587][ch8205][ch9794][ch65039]
Fairly new member here looking to improve my bobber/cafe racer hybrid savage.
Would really love to get one of these pulleys if possible please to improve the comfort of longer club rides.. [ch128591]
Only thing is, I'm a Brit, now living in France.. Would you be willing to ship over seas to help a brother out? [ch129310][ch128591]  (Obviously at extra cost)

Cheers, Jason

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Dave on 10/07/22 at 03:14:46

Jason:

Nice looking bike!

I don't have any more pulleys - cut or uncut.

Armen has some I believe.......I will send him a message to let him know you need one.

Dave

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Armen on 10/07/22 at 04:51:10

Hi Jason,
I have some pulleys. They aren’t powder coated, and I don’t have locktabs. But I have stainless button head Allen’s.
I haven’t shipped any across the pond, but I’m sure I can.
I can’t get to a post office til next week, but if yo give me an address, I can get a quote for shipping.
Thanks,
-Armen

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by BobberFR on 10/08/22 at 00:18:05

Cheers Dave, appreciate that mate! [ch128170][ch128077]

Hi Armen! That'll be awesome, thank you man, really appreciate it!

I'll pm you my address [ch128170][ch128077]

Jason [ch9996][ch65039]


Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by BobberFR on 10/08/22 at 00:29:37

Armen:

Actually, I'm too new and don't have enough posts yet to pm! [ch128584]
Address for shipping is
La Bigottière
Passais Villages
Orne 61350
France

Just let me know as and when you can, cheers buddy, really appreciated [ch128591][ch128077] Jason

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Armen on 10/11/22 at 06:15:59

Hey Bobber,
If you haven’t done it, the double bearing conversion for the rear pulley is a great idea. DBM came up with the idea. I have a few of the modified spacers (you’ll have to buy a bearing). Very easy mod, and many of the bikes will destroy the stock pulley bearing.
It’ll only add ounces to the package, so it makes sense to get it at the same time.
LMK
Thanks,
-Armen

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by BobberFR on 10/11/22 at 23:24:57

Hi Armen,
I've not heard of that mod, but if its recommended by you guys, then sure! Let's do it [ch128077][ch128170]
I'll search in the forum to find the details.
Add me in what you got [ch128077] haha
Cheers dude [ch128077]
BobberFR

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Armen on 10/13/22 at 21:11:13

Hey Bobber,
Did you see my PM about all this?
Thanks
-Armen

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Yazman on 10/14/22 at 03:34:09

Please post the details! I grabbed my rear sprocket last night and was horrified by how much slop and play it has. I looked at the old threads, but most of the pictures are gone.

Does the double bearing mod require machining? I have so many questions lol

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Armen on 10/14/22 at 05:42:47

Hi Yazman,
There is a detailed post somewhere about the conversion. I do the machining. At your end all you do is knock out the original bearing and seal, install the double row bearing that you bought, and use my modified spaced instead of the OEM left one.
The spacers are provided on exchange. $28 with shipping, and you send me your old one.
Drag Bike Mike came up with this idea. All the cool kids do it :-)
LMK if you want one.
-Armen

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Yazman on 10/14/22 at 06:19:31


645748404B250 wrote:
Hi Yazman,
There is a detailed post somewhere about the conversion. I do the machining. At your end all you do is knock out the original bearing and seal, install the double row bearing that you bought, and use my modified spaced instead of the OEM left one.
The spacers are provided on exchange. $28 with shipping, and you send me your old one.
Drag Bike Mike came up with this idea. All the cool kids do it :-)
LMK if you want one.
-Armen


I'm very interested! You can email me or PM me with details if you don't mind. Thanks!

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Armen on 10/15/22 at 06:43:59

Hey Yazman,
This should get you there:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1641846528

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by BobberFR on 11/07/22 at 00:27:51

Hey Armen, sorry for delay in reply on here, but shipment all received well and good (after I paid import duty [ch128580][ch128530]) last weekend! [ch128077]
Been busy all week but hoping to get chance to fit this week [ch128170].
Also, that link above  to rear bearing mod is appreciated.
Nice one, superb forum.
Thank you all [ch128077]

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Armen on 11/07/22 at 05:16:04

Excellent!!

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Yazman on 11/09/22 at 09:07:40

I installed the spacer from Armen, and it fit no problem! I had horrible slop before, and now it's perfect. I ordered a bearing from eBay, left it in the freezer for a couple days, then heated the hub with a small torch. I had to use the hammer, but I got the bearing in, and everything seems ok. I definitely recommend this upgrade if you're on the fence about it. The hardest part was bashing out the old bearing. I ended up using a big socket and beating it with a 5lb sledge. Thanks Armen!

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Armen on 11/09/22 at 10:44:01

Awesome, folks!
Glad it worked out so well.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Gus on 03/06/23 at 21:11:34

I have a pulley that needs to be modified.
Where can I send it & what's the cost for the work?
I'll send a check along with it.

Thanks

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Armen on 03/07/23 at 15:44:24

Hey Gus,
I have a few pulleys that are done, would you like me to send you one? Or, I can do yours.
I can supply the modified pulley and the button head allen bolts. I don’t have the lock tabs. And mine aren’t painter. You can paint them if you wish.
Also, if you haven’t done the modified rear axle spacer, it’s a good mod. And I can ship the modified spacer at the same time as the pulley. I need your old spacer back.
The price for the pulley outright, with shipping is $160. The spacer is $28. If you want me to modify your spacer, knock $20 off the price.
LMK what works for you.
Thanks!

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Gus on 03/07/23 at 21:14:40


6A59464E452B0 wrote:
Hey Gus,
I have a few pulleys that are done, would you like me to send you one? Or, I can do yours.
I can supply the modified pulley and the button head allen bolts. I don’t have the lock tabs. And mine aren’t painter. You can paint them if you wish.
Also, if you haven’t done the modified rear axle spacer, it’s a good mod. And I can ship the modified spacer at the same time as the pulley. I need your old spacer back.
The price for the pulley outright, with shipping is $160. The spacer is $28. If you want me to modify your spacer, knock $20 off the price.
LMK what works for you.
Thanks!



Armen,
Just sent a PM
Thanks

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by GOF on 08/13/23 at 16:57:49

Been away for a while. Life happens. So I am interested to know if these 25 tooth pulleys are still available?

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Armen on 08/13/23 at 17:21:01

Yup. Got them sitting here.
LMK if you want one.
Have you done the double wide pulley bearing conversion yet?

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by GOF on 08/13/23 at 17:27:53


5A69767E751B0 wrote:
Yup. Got them sitting here.
LMK if you want one.
Have you done the double wide pulley bearing conversion yet?

I have not. I'll PM you.

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by Armen on 08/13/23 at 17:57:42

There are articles in the tech section. Pretty straightforward.
Might as well do both at once and save time and shipping costs.
Thanks!
-Armen

Title: Re: 25T Kawasaki Pulley
Post by GOF on 08/13/23 at 17:59:42


53607F777C120 wrote:
There are articles in the tech section. Pretty straightforward.
Might as well do both at once and save time and shipping costs.
Thanks!
-Armen

PM sent.
And I have been looking at the articles.
Thanks.

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