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Message started by Stefinstein on 02/22/17 at 09:51:19

Title: DIY mid controls
Post by Stefinstein on 02/22/17 at 09:51:19

Hello and welcome,

So after an enquiry from another forum member on my "DIY forward controls" thread, I have made a separate page for mid controls.

Like many of you savage owners I like to modify my thumper to my own tastes in style and comfort. I have recently been looking to find any kind of plans, how to's, drawings, or forum pages on how make your own mid controls. But, as all of us already know we are very limited to the options we have for parts in the retail market. Now we are faced with the options of outrageous prices or building your own set from scratch.

So, here's my proposal;

That this page be used be used for an open source of information on how to make your own forward controls, a collaborative thread for forum members who can offer their ideas/experience/dimensions/drawings/pictures to the forum readers.

I am eager to see the responses this page will get. Hopefully with the collective help of the people reading this we can create the ground works for anyone attempting this feat.

Thanks for your time and your contributions in advance!

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 02/22/17 at 10:00:13

I like it. I'll post what I work up when I get started.

There is one really nice example that showed up on here a while ago. They are slightly more "rear set" than what I need, but they were done beautifully.

Here is the thread: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1480200232/0

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/nerdsports/Suzuki%20Savage/IMG_20161126_152931_zpstpg3wacc.jpg

The more I look at them, the more I might be willing to compromise on my peg placement. He reused the stock shifter and brake pedal in a simple yet effective design.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/nerdsports/Suzuki%20Savage/IMAG1090_zps5a0s4rdk.jpg

I was planning on doing something similar and mounting a set of XS400 pegs that will get my feet a little more forward. But it will complicate my shift lever placement compared to the example above, but I'm hoping be able to use a lever straight off the shift shaft in true mid control fashion. I also have a XS400 rear brake pedal, but it won't be a simple to fabricate at the example above.

http://https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0709/8407/products/5058_large.jpg?v=1429313374

For the bracket, I found that you can use a set of motor/battery box mounts (on the right in pic below) turned upside down with just a little bit of bending.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Kenny G on 02/22/17 at 10:14:46

Stefin,

I could live with that setup.

Kenny G

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Stefinstein on 02/22/17 at 12:04:33

I feel like the left peg coming thru the belt is an unsafe route unless it was right over the swing arm axle, but that's a pretty high for a set of pegs. Just looking at all the mounting options and I see those two little plates that hold the engine to the frame (they also bolt to the stock battery box) that you are talking about. Those could be remade to wrap around swing arm axle tube and drop down and maybe attach to stock muffler mount bolt (for rigidity).

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 02/22/17 at 12:21:00

Those are the two plates I mentioned and posted in the picture above. I modified a set to mount upside down then you would basically make something similar to Ryca's mount or the one I posted above.

What do you mean by unsafe route? The Ryca style bracket is unsafe?

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Stefinstein on 02/22/17 at 12:24:14

No I'm sure they're well proven, but having it come thru the belt with the oscillation it does might not be the best route. Do you have any close up pictures of your work?

Maybe nerdsports can help us with some input on the matter.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Stefinstein on 02/22/17 at 12:38:53

Does anyone have a pair of these mounting plates handy for some accurate measurements?

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Dave on 02/22/17 at 12:40:23

Having the mid mount between the top/bottom of the belts is not a problem if you use the pulleys, as they are a large diameter and there is plenty of clearance. It is an issue wihen folks change over to sprockets....the smaller diameter of the sprockets brings the chain too close to the mount, and RYCA does work to clearance them if you are going to use a chain.

This a bad photo.....but it is the only one I have that shows the relationship of the belt to the RYCA mount. This photo has a Kawasaki rear pulley, and it is showing how loose the belt is if you don't also use the Kawasaki front pulley. The bar that extends out to the mounting plate is very far forward, and is almost directly under the swing arm pivot point.

http://i41.tinypic.com/25su23b.jpg

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 02/22/17 at 12:40:29

No pictures. I just did a little grinding to make them fit and threw them in a box somewhere. I'll probably fab something up here in the next week or two. Finishing up anther part of my project.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Stefinstein on 02/22/17 at 13:08:53

Dave- thanks for the pic that's not a bad reference at all.

If someone can get me the dimension on those little plates I can whip something up. Even a good close straight shot of each one laying on some graph paper would work if you can't figure out how to measure them

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/22/17 at 07:12:54

I've been working on mine a bit. You can go about it a couple of ways.

I started out doing something like nerdsports did, but mounting the plates on the inside of the frame isn't the best choice for true mid-controls. My pegs are going to be further forward than nerds I think will just put too much leverage and stress on the bracket. That said, you can easily use the battery box/motor brackets to make something similar to his. I would probably still mount the brackets on the outside of the frame like Ryca does though. I think it would be stronger. Probably even strong enough to hold my pegs out front a bit more, but I think the bracket be in the way of my rear brake set up. I think nerds design is about perfect for about anything behind the swingarm pivot.

I'm trying to hang my pegs a bit in front of the pivot, so I'm going make something similar to Ryca's mount. The reason is because they have the mount positioned more forward, under the swingarm pivot. This will be much stronger for those of us who want our pegs in front of the pivot.

I hope to cut and weld mine up by this weekend. I'll try and snag some pictures of some of the ideas that could work (and I'll measure up the plates for Stefinstein too).

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/23/17 at 09:37:40

This is NOT how I ended up doing my set up but I'm leaving it here because it's a viable solution. The setup I'm using starts on the next page.

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Here is how you can use a pair of motor/battery box mounts to make a bracket such as nerdsports. I decided against this method because my pegs are going to be much further forward and I think this design might not be strong enough. I think it would be perfect for rear sets or anything behind the swing arm mount.

In this picture, from the top are two stock mounts. Below them are two that have been heated and flattened out (one is also trimmed up a bit). There is a 1" tube with two slots cut that will accept the mounts. The mounts will side into the pipe and then be welded. Note that these slots were cut so that the mounts sit on the inside of the frame mounts. I would cut them to fit on the outside of the frame for more strength.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/23/17 at 09:43:02

Here is the trimmed plate in the tube. The reason for the trimming is to set the height of the tube so that it clears the belt and swingarm. The more you take off, the higher the tube will be once it's installed.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/23/17 at 09:48:35

This is how it would look with the plate mounted to the outside of the frame. Of course the tube would need to be welded and cut down to size as it would likely only need to stick out 2" past the plate. Also, I would use thicker walled tubing. This was just a piece I had lying around. My plan was to use it to mock up my parts and then get something more substantial before I started welding.

Pretty simple. You just add some outer plates to accept your rearsets or peg and lever combination you plan to use. You'll notice that this sits slightly behind the swingarm. So anything in front of the pivot will put a lot of leverage and stress on the bracket. That's why my final design will move the tube forward, right under the pivot. I'll post that up soon. Hopefully before the end of the week.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Kenny G on 03/23/17 at 09:52:10

Moto,

You have the right idea.

If you ever decide to manufacturer the mid controls for resale count me in.

Kenny G

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 03/23/17 at 10:50:23

Mid controls? Those look more like rear sets to me. I think those are further back then my rear sets.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Dave on 03/23/17 at 11:29:14

Gary:

I have a photo of my RYCA rear sets on the first page of this thread, and they appear to be about 2" behind the swing arm pivot.....and the prototype that ohiomoto is building seems that it could be just a bit more forward than RYCA's if you were to put the mounting plate for the pegs forward of the cross bar.

However.....I do agree that it is too far back, and too high to be "mid" controls. The pegs need to be much lower.....down where they would potentially be in conflict with the exhaust header! :o

I think "mid controls" need to be like the photo below.....if you don't want the scrunched up Cafe' or Sport bike riding position. Interesting that the black Tempter has the pegs set pretty far back.....?

http://i67.tinypic.com/vfzgj5.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/vzhniw.jpg

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/23/17 at 19:40:13

You guys obviously aren't reading what I wrote. It's just a bracket that could work for an "almost" mid control like nerdsports made. It has no outer plate or pegs on it, so it shouldn't be taken as anything more than a simple bracket made with recycled brackets. I said I won't be using it (a few times ::) ) because I didn't feel it would be strong enough for what I'm doing and that it would actually be perfectly suited for rearsets. Maybe it's the perfect solution for someone else.

I wrote that I hope to post my proper mid controls up by the weekend. I just have to find time to put them together. If that wasn't clear, I apologize, but please read my post before you jump all over me for posting something that someone might find useful down the road.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/23/17 at 20:03:44

Dave,

The only issue I have with the blue Retro Standard is that going under and outside of the pipe puts the right peg too far out on the bike. (I was was dragging the stock pegs on my bike last summer and I wasn't really pushing it. No way would I want to make that situation worse.) My pegs will be in the same area but above the pipe (still lower than most rearsets) Pretty much inline with the stock pegs. Keep in mind, my seat is much taller than the Standard Retro.

It's going to look like a Ryca bracket because they have the outer tube more forward than the first set I started (I think I said that more than a few times now).

Here is a sneak peak....

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/23/17 at 20:04:36

These will be hanging off of those...

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by buster6315 on 03/23/17 at 21:07:34

I like the look of that blue bike!

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Stefinstein on 03/23/17 at 23:47:25

How 'bout some of those tasty dimensions ohiomoto :P

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Dave on 03/24/17 at 04:11:19

5A5D5C5A585A415A350 wrote:

If that wasn't clear, I apologize, but please read my post before you jump all over me for posting something that someone might find useful down the road.

I don't believe anyone posted any comments that were abusive or hateful. We were trying to make helpful suggestions.

Gary and I have both ridden with the RYCA brackets, and we know the resulting foot position won't be comfortable on a bike that has a more standard seating position like the one your are building (they aren't really all that comfortable on the Cafe' bike). You will end up with your legs folded up too much.....and constantly be in a squat.

The forward controls rub much sooner than pegs that are in the middle of the bike - even if they are at the center of the bike. Also the Savage forward controls are very wide - the brackets are thick and they are mounted on the widest part of the frame.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/28/17 at 05:03:38

Brackets

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/28/17 at 05:05:30

Had to modify the brake pedal lever and shorten the shaft so I cut through the existing weld to remove the lever.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/28/17 at 05:06:13

A little trimming and welding...

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/28/17 at 05:07:39

Trimmed the belt cover and bent up an old shift lever to go along with the rest of the parts.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/28/17 at 05:08:27

Left bracket installed.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/28/17 at 05:09:07

Left side complete.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/28/17 at 05:09:46

Right bracket.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/28/17 at 05:10:17

Right side completed.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/28/17 at 05:20:45

This is pretty strong as is. I'm 250 lbs and I can jump up and down on these but I may still add a cross member between the two brackets like Ryca does for even more strength. If I do, I'll bolt it in between the brackets instead of welding just to make it easier to take apart if I ever need to.

I'll get the important measurements when I take it apart to paint. You could probably just use Ryca's bracket and fabricate the needed hardware to put pegs wherever you like. It would have been easier.

Up next is a proper kick stand. I'm modifying a stock stand (keeping the safety switch) and mounting it up like Ryca does. I'll post that in here and/or in my build thread: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1472222031

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 03/28/17 at 05:34:31

As I posted in your build thread, those controls look great and they look strong. Well done!

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/28/17 at 09:39:15

Thank you. I'm happy with the results.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Kenny G on 03/28/17 at 10:39:43

Moto,

Very good.

I wish I was clever enough to make a set for my S40.

Kenny G :-/

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/29/17 at 05:13:13

Kickstand with safety switch installed. Seems like it should be here with the mid controls because if you build mid controls and lose the forward mounts, you're going to need a kickstand.

WARNING: The OEM kickstand mount hangs too low with this bracket and hits the ground if you hit a bump while cornering. It happened to me and I nearly crashed. This is NOT a good solution without the bracket that Ryca made.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/29/17 at 05:13:42

Chopped up an old OEM mount and attached it Ryca style.

WARNING: The OEM kickstand mount hangs too low with this bracket and hits the ground if you hit a bump while cornering. It happened to me and I nearly crashed. This is NOT a good solution without the bracket that Ryca made.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/29/17 at 05:14:41

Bottom shot.

WARNING: The OEM kickstand mount hangs too low with this bracket and hits the ground if you hit a bump while cornering. It happened to me and I nearly crashed. This is NOT a good solution without the bracket that Ryca made.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/29/17 at 05:15:25

With the stand up.

WARNING: The OEM kickstand mount hangs too low with this bracket and hits the ground if you hit a bump while cornering. It happened to me and I nearly crashed. This is NOT a good solution without the bracket that Ryca made.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Dave on 03/29/17 at 05:55:54

Looks great......well done.

eBay is likely to have a increase in GS400 footpeg sales!

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/29/17 at 07:23:24

Thank you Dave.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/29/17 at 07:32:58

012637343B3C2126373B3C520 wrote:

How 'bout some of those tasty dimensions ohiomoto :P

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3-3/8" on center for the bolt holes.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/29/17 at 07:34:10

1-3/8" cutout for swingarm clearance.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 03/29/17 at 07:35:04

From here you can shape them as needed. But they end up being about 4" long.

My standoffs are just over 2-1/4" long and almost on center with the swing arm.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Stefinstein on 03/29/17 at 16:43:08

Nom nom nom!

What's the inside angle of the two legs?

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by faffi on 07/07/18 at 12:45:05

417A7760717D66607B737E61120 wrote:

This a bad photo.....but it is the only one I have that shows the relationship of the belt to the RYCA mount. This photo has a Kawasaki rear pulley, and it is showing how loose the belt is if you don't also use the Kawasaki front pulley.

http://i41.tinypic.com/25su23b.jpg

Sorry for the hijack, but that is interesting - what number of teeth and what modifications did you have to make? I can see this together with a longer swingarm to make room for an 18in wheel. Or get tall enough gearing with a 17in radial.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Dave on 07/08/18 at 03:28:29

2F282F2F20490 wrote:

It requires a Kawasaki EN500/EN454/Vulcan 500 pulley, and it has to be machined. There is room for up to a 130/70-18 tire with the stock swing arm.

You can discuss Kawasaki pulley(s) in this thread.
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1384949185

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by faffi on 07/08/18 at 11:24:08

Thank you :)

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by tzutzu42 on 12/12/22 at 20:24:28

Awesome set up! I'm actually following your mid control design to build mine. My left side is done. But I'm having trouble finding the right size of the tube that fit right with the right side rear brake shaft. It's either too big or too small.

What size of the round tube did you use to fit your rear brake set up? And did you install the brake spring? I didn't see it in the pictures. Would be awesome if you can share more info on the rear brake set up!! Thanks

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/12/22 at 20:38:17

Gotta say I'm a little bummed. I came here to learn how to do

D.I.Y. Mind Control.
Dangitt

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 12/15/22 at 14:00:49

233A27246266606564570 wrote:

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I didn't go with the nersports design because it would have been tough to get the pegs where I wanted them while staying above the exhaust pipe. Most of my stuff is on page two I think. I used square tubing for the standoffs on mine.

If you are talking about the tubing I used for the brake lever pivot, I don't remember the size but it's larger than it needs to be. I was going to have a bushing made but I never got around to it. It works fine, but I should probably take a look and see how its holding up. I actually forgot about it and I need to add that to my todo list for the winter.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 12/15/22 at 14:06:06

JOG You are getting sleepy, very sleepy.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/15/22 at 19:07:12

Yezz mazter,,

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by tzutzu42 on 12/30/22 at 13:26:17

I meant the rear brake return spring, where did you install it on your setup? I couldn't figure it out where to put it. I can do it without it, but the rear brake control feels really loose without the return spring on the foot peg.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 01/02/23 at 21:04:52

I don't remember exactly but I might be relying on the hub's return spring. I'll have to take a look at some point.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by tzutzu42 on 01/04/23 at 06:08:01

I managed to add a return spring here, which helps increasing some resistant when braking. Still trying to adjust the tension to a comfortable level, but so far so good!

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 01/04/23 at 20:22:49

Cool! Post more pictures and tips.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by tzutzu42 on 01/11/23 at 08:08:55

I pretty much followed the exact mid control set up like you did. Thanks for your post, I really like your set up ideal!

And to add the return spring on it, I drilled a hole on the rear brake linkage and welded an additional piece on the foot control end to hook the return spring on.

I couldn't figure out how to upload multiple pictures in one post for some reasons, I will upload all my pics in several comments.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by tzutzu42 on 01/11/23 at 08:11:59

Hole on the rear brake linkage

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by tzutzu42 on 01/11/23 at 08:12:44

Welded an additional piece on the foot control end to hook the return spring on.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by tzutzu42 on 01/11/23 at 08:14:25

Where the return spring sit

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 01/11/23 at 20:19:01

4C55484B0D090F0A0B380 wrote:

I pretty much followed the exact mid control set up like you did. Thanks for your post, I really like your set up ideal!

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Thanks! I'm glad you were able to use the information and I like what you have done, BUT...

For the safety of you and/or anyone else who may end up with your bike, please consider the quality of the finished product pictured below.

http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/Compress_20230111_111048_8312.jpg

First, it looks like only half of the square tube is actually welded to the frame bracket???

Second, the welds look suspect

I'm only pointing this out because someone's life might depend on it.

You've done the hard work. It might be worth having a pro go over your welds or even fabricate new brackets based on the ones you built.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 01/11/23 at 20:37:31

I'm not picking on your work, I love it. I just want you to be safe!!

I used the OEM brackets to give me the bolt needed bolt pattern. I added some extra material to the bottom and welded all sides of the tubing to the bracket.

http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/IMG_20170322_215332147.jpg

I'm not a pro welder (and I borrowed a 110v Mig welder that struggled a bit), but I know I got good penetration. I really struggled to get that thing to burn hot enough and I had to run the wire feed faster than I would have liked. The result was I put down a little more weld than I would have liked but it was the only way I could keep a pool of material hot enough to get some penetration on the work pieces. (I think thinner wire might have helped but I'm not sure. I know I could have done better on a 220v mig or a tig with a little practice.)

http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/IMG_20170326_150837999_HDR.jpg

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Bob Scogin on 09/26/23 at 12:10:55

I'm just finishing up my mid controls following in the style of those in this thread. I polled the group for ideas on a rear brake light switch and didn't get any, so I thought I'd contribute my solution. Starting at the stock switch, I made a Z shaped bracket that moved it outboard and up, nearly against the swing arm. To activate it, I welded an L shaped bracket to the arm on the pedal shaft to which the brake rod attaches. Then I ran a spring with a long "tail" down between the peg mounting plate and the swing arm. Adjust to suit, and done.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Bob Scogin on 09/26/23 at 12:21:44

View from under bike looking up. The tab to which the spring is attached is welded to the brake rod lever on the pedal shaft.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by ohiomoto on 09/26/23 at 18:45:09

Simple and effective. Some would say elegant. Nice!

Please post your shift linkage and brake pedal when you get a chance.

Also, do you have a plan for the sidestand?

I tried to keep the stock kickstand and safety switch, but it's anything but safe. It was a lazy solution. I thought it was far enough under the bike, but it hangs too low. I'm leaning toward a weld-on stand. I've also considered the peg bracket, my mind isn't seeing it.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Bob Scogin on 09/26/23 at 19:34:01

The shifter set up is simple. I used an XS650 shift lever with the splines drilled out. Welded an arm on it and kept the center to center length the same as the factory arm that's on the shifter shaft. That kept the relative movement between the two at 1:1. I welded a flat tab on the XS400 foot peg bracket, and then welded a pivot shaft for the lever on that. The relay rod is a hybrid with 6 MM threads on one end for the stock arm and 1/4-28 on the other end for a Heim joint.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Bob Scogin on 09/26/23 at 19:40:36

7572737577756E751A0 wrote:

Also, do you have a plan for the sidestand?

I finished the side stand today. I ordered a 10 MM X 200 MM bolt to replace the stock 180 MM motor mount bolt and it's supposed to arrive tomorrow (9-27-23). As soon as I get it I'll post my solution. It's a different approach, but solves the problem of loss of ground clearance under the bracket.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Bob Scogin on 09/27/23 at 15:58:31

As I approached the side stand project, the well known problems with ground clearance caused by repurposing the stock part became apparent, so I went digging through my parts stash for alternatives. A bent and junked XS650 frame (never throw anything away) yielded a possible solution. The XS650 stand had a couple of advantages over all the others. First, it mounted with the pivot facing inboard, which keeps it closer to the centerline of the bike. Second, it's a self contained package which doesn't require figuring out where the upper spring mount should be. The job required using the forged mounting lug from the frame, or the ability to machine one that's functionally the same. The bracket uses the rear engine mounting bolt and a crossmember similar to the Ryca stand.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Bob Scogin on 09/27/23 at 16:01:47

The unassembled parts, including the M10 X 200MM bolt that arrived on schedule from McMaster-Carr.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Bob Scogin on 09/27/23 at 16:06:24

Assembled stand viewed from inboard side. The two holes are for the crossmember bolts .

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Bob Scogin on 09/27/23 at 16:08:14

Outboard side. The M10 bolt passes through the hole.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Bob Scogin on 09/27/23 at 16:13:03

Crossmember. The M10 mounting bolt only passes through Ryca's piece on the left side and utilizes the tab holding the brake cable on the right. I added a tab through which the mounting bolt passes to the right side, in addition to using the existing frame tab.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Bob Scogin on 09/27/23 at 16:18:23

Stand retracted.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Bob Scogin on 09/27/23 at 16:19:48

Stand deployed.

Title: Re: DIY mid controls
Post by Bob Scogin on 10/01/23 at 19:02:20

484F4E484A485348270 wrote:

Please post your shift linkage and brake pedal when you get a chance.
Also, do you have a plan for the sidestand?

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