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Message started by pg on 02/20/17 at 13:44:44

Title: Poverty & Gumballs
Post by pg on 02/20/17 at 13:44:44

A 6 minute clip and a bit enlightening.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE&sns=em[/media]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE&sns=em

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Title: Re: Poverty & Gumballs
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/20/17 at 13:59:14

I hope there is a protective garment of some sort that will make him impervious to Hate, cuz he's probably not going to be well received by the Tolerant Ones.

Title: Re: Poverty & Gumballs
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/21/17 at 16:47:47

Really, if you have an opinion AtAll about immigration, watch this.

Title: Re: Poverty & Gumballs
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/21/17 at 19:01:52

I've Admitted to bring wrong when it was shown to me.
Can you?

Title: Re: Poverty & Gumballs
Post by T And T Garage on 02/21/17 at 20:59:32

Over simplified and missing a huge point.  

We are not "enticing" those who can help in their own country AND we are helping those countries.  We have for decades.  We will continue to.

But there is absolutely no reason to effectively end immigration to the US.  Gumballs or no gumballs.

Title: Re: Poverty & Gumballs
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/21/17 at 22:33:35

The math would indicate what you call help the equivalent of killing one ant in a mile long procession raiding your picnic.
We take one or two million out of a population of Five Billion. Yippee.
For that tiny percentage of change we burden our people and bring riskof violence and further burden on the social safety net.
And you're too busy to read Cloward and Piven.

Title: Re: Poverty & Gumballs
Post by verslagen1 on 02/22/17 at 11:53:48

Obvious fact, who says $2 a day is poor?
If you have a roof, food and water you're rich.

Title: Re: Poverty & Gumballs
Post by Serowbot on 02/22/17 at 13:29:07

Nobody says we cure global poverty with immigration...
Fact is,.. we need laborers, and we can't get our own people to do it...
We also need smart people, and we welcome them..
... but, we also take in people with nowhere to go.  Our country was founded on it.

As an aside... how many of us have a garage so full o' cr@p we can't fit our cars in them?... or so much stuff we rent a storage space?... or have a room dedicated to stuff we don't know what to do with?...
So,.. maybe we do have too much...

Title: Re: Poverty & Gumballs
Post by pg on 02/22/17 at 18:36:16

Ok, what is wrong with this picture?

http://https://journalmetrocom.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/09779662.jpg?

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Title: Re: Poverty & Gumballs
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/22/17 at 20:08:35

They don't have umbrellas? Someone NEEDS to see to it they and their wives and children , ohhh, WaitUhMinnit here.. I'm not seeing anyone but young, fighting age men,  awww, they are okay.. I mean, Look at Germany,

Title: Re: Poverty & Gumballs
Post by Serowbot on 02/22/17 at 21:52:00


3126202C2333410 wrote:
Ok, what is wrong with this picture?
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A... it's way to big for my screen....
B... it is selective.... showing a glimpse of 8 people among 3 million...
C... Historically,...  then, now, and forever...   People in desperation, knowing they must move, but never having been more than 20 or 30 miles from their home... have sent their most able family members forward to acclimate. find shelter, and employment,... with the plan of bringing the rest of the family when safety is secured...
...( a new life in a strange land is a petrifying experience... would you send your wife and children without making sure it's safe first?...
This is human nature in survival mode......
If this weren't true,.. we wouldn't have a handful of examples of terrorist acts.. we would have millions...
Do you seriously believe that photo shows 6 terrorists?... :-?

There may be some terrorists trying to sneak in...
... but, the many, many,  thousandfold majority are fleeing terror themselevs...
Would you risk your life to save another?...
Would you risk you and your families life?...
Maybe not...
Would you take that risk to save a million lives?...

The answer should become more more vague...

My faith in humanity rests on it...

Shoot me now,.. but to give another Hitler reference...
Many, many Germans risked both their and their family's lives to save Jews...
Nazi's were German...
...but, so many lessons in humanity and courage are German too...
So many German families risked all to save innocent Jewish lives...
And that is the lesson in humanity...


We all live,.. and we all will die...
What we stand for is what we leave behind....

Why does it take an atheist to point this out ?....
What would,.. did,... Jesus do?...
Where you stand is your legacy.
If there is a god... he will judge you on your principles..
Isn't that what religion is about?...

Geez!...  who's teaching this stuff?... :-/

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Title: Re: Poverty & Gumballs
Post by pg on 02/23/17 at 03:29:59


2730363A3525570 wrote:
Ok, what is wrong with this picture?


Multiple able bodies men walking along side someone who clearly needs help.  The women is barefoot carrying two children with the misery displayed on her face.

Why is that not surprising to me?

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Title: Re: Poverty & Gumballs
Post by pg on 02/23/17 at 03:36:22


5D4B5C41594C415A2E0 wrote:
Why does it take an atheist to point this out ?....
What would,.. did,... Jesus do?...
Where you stand is your legacy.
If there is a god... he will judge you on your principles..
Isn't that what religion is about?...


Evidently you haven't noticed, I don't post very much regarding religion & spiritual beliefs.  If I did elaborate, it may surprise you....

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Title: Re: Poverty & Gumballs
Post by Trippah on 02/23/17 at 06:19:01

That the woman is carrying the young is not surprising, it is human nature.  Men form the protective flanks ready to fight at a moments notice.  Women and the children more centrally placed do be defended.

What was that song?  Bees do it, elephants do it, even the ugly water buffalo do it> ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Poverty & Gumballs
Post by WebsterMark on 02/23/17 at 06:22:01

Would you take that risk to save a million lives?...

It's not necessary to risk the lives of Ohio State students or Minnesota mall shoppers. If we really want to help and you think it's something we should take on, then send in the troops, kill the bad guys in those countries, and set up a government. We basically did that in Germany, Italy and Japan in WWII and those countries turned out very well.

Yea, and you get shot twice; one for yet another ridiculous Hitler reference and one for a Jesus reference.

I don't know what Jesus would say. He beat and ejected dishonest merchants that had taken over the temple. Render unto Caesar means more than just paying taxes, it and other passages equate to obeying laws and the rulers who govern you.  I can certainly find you Proverbs about the wisdom of building and maintaining a strong house or foundation.

There is no simple formula for compassion. It is not compassionate to give a child crying for a breakfast of ice crème, a big bowl of vanilla. That is the opposite of compassion. It is not compassion to give an alcoholic a bottle just to get him through another day. And my sense is it's not compassion to allow open boarders to change the very identity of this nation. Yes, we can take on some. But Trump's point (and Obama's too) and one that I agree with, not from those nations with limited government oversight or passport control. You can say extreme vetting all you want, but we know with absolute certainty, there will be terrorist among them. There will be.

Weakening this nation is not the solution to the world's problems. And yes, greater immigration weakens this nation in today's world because we refuse to demand assimilation. Just as importantly, the immigrants coming in have little to offer our economy except as workers at the lowest wages.

It's often repeated that these immigrants do the work Americans won't which I've always rejected. They take any job which drives the wages down. Take 10 million illegal immigrants out of the work force, and business would naturally be forced to increase salaries to entice workers. That's a natural minimum wage. But that's another topic.

But I think the liberal your view of compassion is first filtered through their partisanship. If it hurts Republicans, go for it, regardless of what it does to the nation.

Maybe compassion is just what I said. Go it, clear out the bad guys, give the good people back a country.

Title: Re: Poverty & Gumballs
Post by pg on 02/23/17 at 17:33:52


360403121504132C00130A610 wrote:
But I think the liberal your view of compassion is first filtered through their partisanship. If it hurts Republicans, go for it, regardless of what it does to the nation.


I think the left implements their policies well knowing the effect it will have on the nation.  They have some deep seated part of their ideology that the goal is to disrupt if not destroy anything that has a resemblance of capitalism and or western values.

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Title: Re: Poverty & Gumballs
Post by pg on 02/23/17 at 17:44:48


1C3A2138382920480 wrote:
That the woman is carrying the young is not surprising, it is human nature.  Men form the protective flanks ready to fight at a moments notice.  Women and the children more centrally placed do be defended.


They can still protect her and help her carry one of the kids.  Is that too much to ask for?

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