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Title: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 01/18/17 at 15:49:19 Hi All, My buddy and I have embarked on a new project - converting a 1996 Suzuki Savage to a hardtail. We're going the Voodoo Vintage route - the weld on as opposed to bolt on. Please feel free to comment/give pointers where needed - we'll be asking a lot of questions I'm sure. |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 01/18/17 at 15:52:44 The "Donor" http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/SQ7opIOMG5dWacZ7ub4sgQGjoA2XrXVbjRTAmHctjuqpKwjBqdCeqp-4wiQc68F53X0Nw_K0sUbV86iO0jB3nxS_FqgPND_Ji0ImUA1__MnenlfgULjvxcA3aRhbjUcAqI9LpyptIqPzM-4MMJsnzl0fKYT3b7E6VLj2ONr1gj4ORISg6iEefGAbKZlm36VyxGZJ-JhBHr-jTLwE1jNN2OUh1LuAp3N2vNh6TIA0IKOqo7GZfo4o00CkiqPBHHhzSF1MCHMda5bGGaXPl_hn-X9vsHzgyZbdWP-DyU5uPXUzpy7Jo9-ylsYIMOyqm_l71S4_HR3rp3DiNN-jcBcRKNguksruIkfaI1IcwKkWff7oA3m6EDMmaLSC9YACPDVRtauzTx_F98lQZK_HEXAKcKb81eufNpkkcPY7nYV9UfIKsDvP1MAI0mZgqplq96AhfPLQi91uqNtmpLCqPtRTibMoaf30Vz7x-9JLvH6uqt2BUU53ILlgVKOOYQ2BCePbg8yCvywyJwaEUmRNTmnlPZcL0LURW_OZd95JqyRclX-YhPRsxW8Sc9-8qXWC2wNMFlbzqBNb06FbBoIeqQrB7JSur3IsJa8eIzjqudrGDRhDDSVEMDPwb-5Qsyj70M-yKhE1TKe2Mr_0V6xKqafwzpb8GfUK3HW88vqlabY4eQ=w795-h596-no |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 01/18/17 at 15:53:39 The teardown begins..... http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9T0UKD4qWXwF_8xtIO2Fs526yu5-Cn1x2G3UZUBebw4Cj8vWW3fl3DTMdfsEdpAcBjJPcEXX7Rfyrr0XG_wrDRwasry1noVS24GpBVkh-4zAm5Ggylgv7uCa3IArD9oh8_dmYbznDI32JVVlqx0fZUpWd3Jze-dwiLHSKYC6UIFlbdLsI_e08YBzaNGj3g98hCvOpSNCh2CWOwRU33m9-b0Yh-6kjxcmw4UWna8BHCfMt7Tp8jW2sr576z5aVfj3t2BhsFKxo0B-_KkOn3r-he7gwkk5twoWhwzMRZr8LlyRbG5Lwqm8Na4MmkdGkWa6wevhlU8X-o0LyBFtYC84unzSCW_hv120fL76g5Repx7Ai8EcJNVGsoJyJQcpKXrfqM0Z3CuxDa09FfhuKpTiih5kF_A4CtIqDXOT5CmDcVgvkETuwl7eQE-7ApHCnVTLytoB8iTKx-0V43xgdXbjL9X1JH2F2w8K6heyW700SlgKVslV-JKss90ZI0Q2MdRjijvtVUxmEji6NpJAJUSCW1krBboqmJQgCMEVnhaWLNcsheMz6mHQ1nArw-ifgM1YHDgTmOonEWFW2D0YjQYCyB3tp4zYlt3Wzu-PId9o-hR9o_sQ0gILE_juVU226CQfE4lBRHrpfUtgSkfmoqI-SexAhwzqZNj2zh_DcSzmgA=w795-h596-no |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 01/18/17 at 15:54:33 Nothing but frame http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tKKBdCGrHQ1geadX8_M-Qt02VuYJlgqWhe4NcWBhQofg5u5vj1SjE1fu_NX-eU4ixq6obsyTeWDhOJJQZX0D5yNhZQUg8dxPJzZPbi6c0WpUcBhZv3h48A0k7POOd5x3jAfVCgWPjV-08gc_SV35v2a-14BN5OnPwtfFPV0cax9n4oZtim_eK-xG6ts7abJdPk1UMungPq2wqf4uZwI3hFi0ouqf1DkVsOV9sJNQNgwOKA-yBIYslpjIa0L14be1dlqR8h7aXmi_W1xRnYftt1pkmCWz_xH6bsu65RUkMrMsNo-bDMk0MFpPyG9lo1Jf5VLev-QHbV74jmwS4rFjeWBDtW0Cl-j7PdvJieEINiWDVnu0A9T2uGRoCTVsc1bNgSocxKHjiHBqOWWhslPkxm4aX2xFfzg1-gRzmgDaOvhez-xkK2-Dh_gPBrMd-mPZpTXVVcouKFqy15WJqxKsPKgL8TJi5JP40oz9BdsLKlKl7fTJ6c8HqdfOPkt4hRNXKwN3SfYTEU4s4Nn-M_wvemCPUIDuSurdN6VBaqlYT56YTIH0lsjBRF8vZ3p_YH8yfwnoz_p7sY3DgwHOfn_3l9ERciBE8aF24nLjUknDJxLxpX3bwFsqG44U8ACA9BPMFv6qcEi55UBTZBSTjlXPUuwKkul-v2rebAVhCXqrzQ=w795-h596-no |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 01/18/17 at 15:57:03 The cut frame http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/NYNNNAlONEXwNLkmJVqVHDAEQxRB_GyxeXQv0Dsm_4_woHn1KkhCy9TdVjlhio8NIKLGVjr-ZT-J7vVgjxdJv_luf0XF7sqkbQk0_dppPqASJiJsjZPg3OMkADuSLYBUWNpruGLmcq5SN9pH9BrqocBswpnf4GqlmnygV1hy-TdHRYcEbIqFxsYC-DcnOEPBchuXhE3qBNNTkf5m300utF6dZNzgy4sG9pQsri1aHBSG4C4pp4GXCU1RF3GPtlms_pC-lbbERjDZrT4OyEXT1-n7PWiQ2q--ar3UHtpNKUSxsf8idfWGFbW8gOMymlAW4FefeivefEx0GFeUy1cULTgYOyax2FOVj1qq9nmgDny3loHmNZQaDdkzgEI2EupmgMOlV8tv4gufUcltFZaNTKDFRjO4YNtgz26O_BIpmTQE9tVKvQFKrdzQ35EPBa5C-3b33DM3V77GTkOjy4RG0IHcS-IwghvuY1cNkEYGPFvMk3ASxvtFLOiBTb4QbSmesM1vZ_WzFSZnQiYatJaDu6dT6Z4GhqhBnbeIg4vtVlW5Ak4CRPRPNIDgukDThQNAqbIgWA3D1gYZH79vsqb_LNhGh2MBtLLlmPgh3qJJsXGRFTSmyWrD9VPmRLdNMGGRC0xmc75w_4FsocRPeoGzYvH3MBldRtDHTUjWsZiwOA=w336-h596-no |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 01/18/17 at 15:58:18 Ready to cut the spine.... http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nA8SCfXNfbSGlhhwizQzJP_Rzc_Ek5W1-ayR-JIRK5Ng1GzeVcgMpdDrkLWFuVn9TkRcfFPzFMY4VjAVtUw9LhgJdkQxoLGkTew1LlG9T0KtuP7d4TlsWOUWjIbOrfKI-cKHBHqp3Pr09NSNl2kyA2cY0ZBYhmEtoBCQVBDe723vZ3ThekliHbrdENch6lOPiEKJJeAdEWVS5wEZC6tgiexKUuOrDLKREISVvc1yxjrhyhUh0axfqkHDYspgkqzdrXNotHJSh2WUoU2cxW6qj_T5HUwiaIHriq5c-TYbqX783GFcNY6JgnZ2P6QXYjRjlew83wT66oqq5PmOyDc2xGrRfX_Sr_YW-8xzp4ljn8immQspk-8PNW5OynmXUUdVEDXVS_W5DRx34I2_o7t7D9seMLfzjomN-d37A0n_21DA32GNWwuVPd8POl5lLT5G3t7UeOIO34xHL2Wg2AnBh-qXW7A3KcJiXVI5l9JjSZ1XQJmWdVYSHmq4R3xpD8501qpNwwPvOxGbw8WChCanIuVmuLCzQRsvL3NwaVhhfC2uZheo-9rhtRqZdtAw7d00-rPOCJAZ5Jxzud4mg5dNGkKLSvb6elFSvj_tm-TJiBQrAmVkNGhm=w336-h596-no |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 01/18/17 at 15:58:57 http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/LnQiUTfQmqJcfpyyCPbFZ5IFfuY4bWbCutc-bvohYJR4rcymuGbfkd5RuyekmhPGgpWdo-4eju7x6JhHu3XQaRJPLaayU-S9xxbzsfO49T4tHju7VqsXAPx4SWGknXIlnkT3fX8LgZkImw8sAsB_R3a266o2lHky3jxQZYSZJkxoax5Cxv1LTZMWCtwoZs3YJa69-2lLoF9ZtO2vnoAdd4DUyHD8ejKHAmTF2HrVc4R1oevSVQIomHQpb2TfRVDvwxBuMt61uuGGoyfLXWzjPmkbfXaL2N52_wDUzvyd5msStaiuk0O0JvdHJTzWRYjBCV2qfTUWVCgtQBHv2vAJV7vnFYEYh5cBPZVMBj4L1cgWhfGz08qvjz08ulgLBRpW-hVXzTkL6-iDyabD07goAbYqjxxAGohJ13oTSzFn3RPAoC9V7sZhp_p3rQu8dbx8jxIvCuixWHxCbqr9kl3PNu2N0ohBVHmUG1CJZDjxB46Fjv8PaCCAgcngx8c6WgorBOjZ7X8mIXazdoWt2g4FEqhOGvPodB7J2_qfgWmHanlrCzLo_PrQ-VMXap4G6nA5hr9BPDNSlK5Q0dUYUdOgcq2_spMx5pakNJmp3P6aen72IgHVGplzkPG4CrJVtHxiowW67cMTNnTXYOPl6Ym3E0Z33VJOSthIS0iLhWeVqw=w336-h596-no |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 01/18/17 at 15:59:58 Here's the Voodoo Vintage kit: http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/PwA8xozGEZfIpWS6gWi2-iaMA_dlcS_AnqXtKCDZsKdtJtm1JSWnIUFgmQgCpM3JRKy4iX4DerNBFCh8AZTHjk6ZUP5b8nc7NRBvO1Ua9VWDWe7mtXhvozvXTbi8UJVuU6z_7uwEwHbN00uS0_sOKswwcZgjuPARtUds-V90UDeoS7BNs3TrLvzAYBeHtYjvWxLdq2sF8geuAzmy0xVwmRXNOmKwmk-Lx8kWdZxgLAkSBcdhUbLn5JXBdC-GBx7-dk1iut8GUXZr1yR-BX8CqFndWk8CVIFF1zVqAHM3KkG8DCYqlF1Rtn9eRSp9VVFuTYdB9pKJUyif7PF93GIkEL_WXkEJ-RgV5ngCGqqrKtnifV6Oo1nCiNpDpZVWtlUC1Yviy99icyqY53JJsYvICiQoQOoqqNLx0_ZBTXn2uQVlZuMcEwQgmdtob9qGVCNzdVWWMJcfnFXc0gDtRzfaHr2foR5quf_SIkw7PjeZFqpHXXESQsLtMm6OZKytZFSAzlEa3Ky4IUDawJhII2eR1CCtN3PtrMljcAmJ2hmbvL5OSxIPNBD_Oa9z2vGo3PA9xWJwVUKsb3oKqcEwdPT43FcLE2c25Xn4evwuzw_fW_2PlhOBNq1PheD7Qwf7LKVQZyfotEc-5COj0imzOl80zcxLYJOPYHkkUvXb8fkGdQ=w987-h641-no http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8xQyMM86enH2sj57imi_ezWwS8LRJp7o5P7fprzyIGZ9AmkgIvM4xgzIn1B62L-AI0jNpq33yDcmBM5RkMUtCWh3ngI8zf0cYfysn-9gStH_vsRiV38LdjBmhupLNxVLfUPcS2nVpCR9f3Kx1L1L8U0ANZrUtYZbIjUduigq-TAFqPutzKlumQXDV00roJw8DNcmgZ09VsguU4tZVurq8w8COEgSvnbvcO9oNmpM7ZWLc8JW_kJrLd33jzlba-Jh8lsuP0yDYtvfnPgElXy34Nm9xb--mkndHMQ1CAmHCRb203UjSYf5bMhLT1cTd5tOmqxJgc3WbDKIiyCwj1w5Q06qYeaYEgdZMgYhtUQ4zmvdOMZiqb2mef2z3tH5kWtr3xSITa2NAO5tDC8fjYHGBVX2vMU8I20lia00EzCaNxLXSBA9cuSslED1V1Zu1N6YOatGh01V0aas-b4-hqmUsgLL94PbGXkokRB8TtpLKL3CdI0wuEaldd6zSpp9QHaria0rVxz-R3n_F3EQOYCJvNnMKbYanL6cLB_ap41C7LsPXLwic3_o5muKQPF7e2eXxl266j7cf0lKZoNojvBanbqe7fC-dy1nwXnVs2WERe3XlP47XF2YkBg5CVtNmuYe8xGj7sdRBY5lSv6r2Sm2ie7L4ihF7wFxfcReRWosOw=w987-h641-no Lined up - ready for tacking! http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/JwPic0N_cYZSgaW136maYoddUwT6CSvLFaadFCUZXwC0e7IjmWzknDaGmg9wadN2acDhMFKVQDyQ0Bou6G_7qo6BWzF2oax3GMeM0VNyiOaQBLvIaVIV4RZuVMbEiiZef04FDz4BMe0jBqWema7oupalnmo6RwTIPjXayZbRp_RpyqF_wwjzyK18J2avuxosCT_tPOGjQ5_HVHwAvZFOUBToDErY1ALuo_RhE3fjI3JL-PqSpxI6VHQBqoDooRYQPUUfYzmZwYWyRcd0TbWJRIm2bWSjjArE3dUWBW1RS5EhAlCjFbC-eWKuSEAY6Ry0DloBn_RvHbYyVH7VfA2F-3c0_5pYzoKmjC6DZtsppKy56bAsQtxL7MKxvqAoKRSkdgDi5sLVNoZHUmWe-76pzr4EcQPR5X3QNkLx5_0ILU-OAgDJu_Ik6zczvywTch6oZEZuhjqPxp5I-35Q3Nv6lyeKu5LVcmWBTPxFfmFf6KmeixDQ2Ana7Vk1ssEH3YfThAAdAgTu4mLdKFA6pn8rSUw9wN8LU9CSz3JvguQbOX9InRsxNu1BTvj4jnmBLsLKVXDs-eGoavXmmxv4p89T6yPkAhgm3m8nbtA6gXF9-VanYSXGgW2boCRjNIlZ4ooUkEKwPCsEGBBR83kHNZgvNqOX21IxNMvlTL_Jv7He1A=w987-h381-no |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 01/18/17 at 16:03:58 Tacking! http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/lfg7cWlUj_Zwq9KtlrZQbS5JkkF87H-AK6cuAMhYTDkara_ihgjWZZF2MKorzjMqjG25ktJIyLTpERTPMaSI1QqCPMy1ABqT8hNSWkQXI-QE2R-Czn72bzher1dNLudlDHJQ3wl9vz3-fjn53BT674xyYx5J2cTy4BnMBvrNOI28ctH-G2EhJWeYBCJ2XOZmnrZp8UCTwBsKAV-Hl1LknitevGeW0TtczhKkrqRZozg-dD5QdEbbYzUn3uKDSsar2EKNa7yXE7ZjDgAKBnEvZp_WPONiRI2-aooAVRFXXED_n6EzThOCze58gmRDqOFjYpOvSTCjB7HPOtlxTuY2N8vcXcqsIblsw4czNmNosG48XUCRh86c2FTujKTcUDXUdIsiAFPhnFkwK9RF1j83WwKjE6gPg_QvPZ19YqjALcSDbAHc8w9lcypG4Sn2Y64OTRgofYvnIazTZdsOx8CwgCYwrKfskjG30j3FZubfghZzGitZcWMcAqZY8a-mMiPhgfCLWx49df-HKbJ1lwK11T9QMj7btJ1DFx1ea7mAtsH8lXnB7zpDKLB2fXNbPyg0psRMB-Mj3rRuMN9BcWWWjEf5ejPCbljpdkTaRZV4QHaQrJJUB75_-jdLcctwQrqd4-7DNDbtOEf_-o2KBIjOix7iE_zBVkr0VPvWxvMVcg=w653-h1160-no http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/01zOifxKQdeeK5gcaMzhJ1fehFHwUBuLC-cbT7I9uH6v5p8YIZU_hcLqjrT2Fswvv3aGk_dDsxNdB0KXSyvfGsXx7C0RVemmiobT0o0xfFvhKZvJZU4FOmLFge7GoCQCwv4guWP7QbIlVpcvfif5_kPOKk_z0QAXvjmRFlVx-T9SI0YHsnVDu5WtxO3vBuhJ6DpySD5V8sNBlfRO-X-JDR17NvETDfDXL43bQgYsSbRVDofkGzLR7f0ON-mxR6_ZlGjPvgDbpCVSFRbT7AzbXhEwhXECZH8ujkYAuIGNZ_HXW6JtD2a_dKYSsEKenhoWUgbN9Hb7YHxQ5YMb14gOYFAI9nt4DgpBS72sq0-uXLjUuDuUb_Cy58mUsfyW2vBu_f53skxlBbbg_KT6WnLbp_tui3Lc7On5c-pQlVF2ZnLGDQnafbjS2nZa5Bo_lhau0nZewQSBDgP3cv2hrRhoEuCCBRMbJ65JeG2frNMaZ7GZq_VH9AlHNXP9UpwDCSRSgI8R9we7XBYYBQEI9ds34yGXJ2Bp7ze--xiI7C8h8r9Xt-cODjTAUnlUbuN-46M7_NaEoWx6Hy1sNTPFItSeCp4xOu68uvCAOuV5wXBdqWY7LT6WvKfmqlfqDpoEDV-aimkhiR-lyLkMtSsJxmSca0EqbpJW1PF3iugKh0CbQw=w653-h1160-no |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 01/18/17 at 16:04:39 Christmas! We got the frame back from the welder! http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5ZBNXRGYxCvurtIM0cswP0UKlBl0xt2NYkwwtpOSB0qTZA1cF1ir7yCTQw7DdLm2PH8qNjwPzbOmAYkre5e9o54VsUHV-YnvfPA-h_GRGysi6Bi5yd2BiPZKhzbGWAZa5n8GX5yu61IyGfskKCvJDLpyCrwe7Cj8PrUMrNIfjN9e3DfqGRDVHleitqeHze_hEQwnIVHLW79wTW5lTMBGtpWTBYRMlHCsaC5451pQt_TO6FfuMZ3i6CqmsHKe9yqo1qxpalSqg7-U8SgvQH0K_mv6N5cN-PoZ6uQK9GPVJ9d6UZb7lpZJO2w0XYBJdIiPCcyr-U_9gdmmF320RwZSaF3gCshXDVrqnN1KRAhZj0406kziZjRGxSUJc1XqWZymOesadZB4qtN4jerY2rjosLXHzi29Dd5jDIubXMqjTfVcn40jdlceYYaoaH9UjeyjY56DDNNAWsyQQkweaUYxFsfhmPqEvcuZH3hNy8INJB-RjsF-Bru0PmQd8r5o7fsU5VfDyhuQrq3jCg5RI9fK2rboHTqJCcgykREQK-RVrXa_ADp9dRXvdM3x0A21N-RFPeGl_6NRFXUlej5y8w2Tk_NQBnSlCklpU2-l8gM2dAwy_XfLxIjefroClUXTjM7dsuKhTQITiKku0gRVI05yrRm3E3gAKIhSK4Ip3xsQ1w=w987-h641-no |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 01/18/17 at 16:07:19 OK - so I should point out that we took the recommendation of VV and had the frame welded by a pro. This is not something you want to "practice" on. Our welder did a pretty good job - and it was pretty cheap. It's worth it to know that the welds are good - no second guessing when you're on the highway. |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 01/18/17 at 16:22:07 Since I didn't do it on the outset, I should tell everyone our intentions for this build. We don't really want to do a standard bobber. No hard pan seat, no coffin tank, no tombstone tail light, etc. What we're hoping to do is "capture the essence" of a vintage BWM R35 or '51 Honda Dream. At the same time, we want to try to do something modern - front and rear disk brakes controlled by one pedal with a proportioning valve, and to keep the bars as clean as possible (no levers - more to come on that). What we try & set out to do is something that hasn't been done before. Yes, sometimes there's a very good reason why it's never been done - because it's dangerous, or silly, or simply impossible. But for us, it's doing something that challenges us as builders. If it turns out the idea stinks - we'll abandon it. We're doing this as a learning experience - a couple of guys hanging out in a garage, turning wrenches. You might as well challenge yourselves - right? :) |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 01/18/17 at 16:26:37 Speaking of doing something different - here's the rear wheel mod we did. Our idea is to incorporate the same exact caliper and disk that's used on the front. A "matched set" as it were. As you can see, we've got some grinding to do, but all in all, a pretty nice job - and the holes are spot on for the disk. We've found a great, local machine shop to help us. http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/XlLNuCCVOLVUmff7np51F-gYbANx748h3-kf6n-33RMTdNG4jUF7gSAWpoa3GGCmT8Hi6MRQ0EtCg5aWQFxQHb5ZlgBCNwL22iwuTrI3dqe7uWzwWSmGqVhfwqfVhltr1AL8MA-nPwfakFT3ZMoqan5kKju37qmyQVbkPbwAhs0q491LxjS3RRHlBSoIQ2IviZOjfSwq7L90_v3U1t1U7kA8tV36dGapy1PLi4wu6Gn-0x5H2Dn_66AYwrBFhX7dzTTundPq1bn-DAVhHeAV56NUJ0eYSXVn4qYKdB-5T64tunovc9xowy7Y1PUnvR5LOb-slalRSTzmV-rETJ8eJee6YF18ylWjUli0GdjfMNNRLFh_qSGY30lAsc88bmZpFSGU4OuYoLhfHXs4-AisYHmqPp2SfPIqZDBowSPnRvwyamUDOnvrs2jNoVe1kcjq5vb8YmvY-hc_sHArR1x1QhtcAKE5Wc6TnvU9WFYUxLPdi8WFveWkGs0JyC0dnBIvjYca3LC8nRj-NyDpVJoXwsy4LzIxXeDcSxmKmJFTgaxcvX2fKMPHQ2P7TWPMI5taIxFR6dbC5UAPiPnRxszAks5mR99_bz7sTtmCLLa2e3xHtoCQg8DQjvlg-LY8vt2VR5dr6uOvKB2hjA725h-urwoHKggNnKeoudJDM5Nadg=w987-h641-no |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 01/18/17 at 16:28:43 Time for a little mock up fun - fender blanks and all! http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/yAgr3aFECNp7Vktm1N5oc1puOrTb4t0hoWCpkUy6w077hAMFaDzqx5Qh9BJgBHQC8B5Jq_Ysp8dcgH0uz3jZ0f2OsS_tPON2W_VnrtnORv5idraUlgm8ep4Nt9XrrEQTvn6cGgAE7wibtpGtoDd785TSI5nvsowAgT-k2VCcaWsjMbfxPJ3qCoTMQl-iDSffx3OkcupQ9M1qAPgWABlZIX55ub13ypGliLdD5spHvz7Hygvm4u7oKxc9yFZPQZgpZuYkjh6SH8-9JZ_emGpwGhyO_BrMXX6YPieMs7lP0AmoizV1zS2qwezZTmebTKT-b9d3lPgeyrA33Xe40gWC3fPs-lgfvcvDtieAYzJggJCiFhyl6jpxsWcOOM7rj7jNt8zQFp1FWMym91r_D21zIi2VGVlvipxYX6P7qcTCzr12Ls3N9uD5wqhBCVHbFadyf2URmhA3txRCSdqm2FRaqL9Q_gYx8pR8NawR606Q1U7ORg8P-H-kFnt-Tuz2MSD23DSPGilPzJJ_wkcZLVK2jeW4BKXMZt4CDXyN93Yq42RDpoS0RfP9dFCqHp8zYo4kQfPVh4L_TzRcJZlOuPpcf-tQs6V-ClnHjDrog91Cpa4NLJeYjCXp7KHVGSEt6EK9xBNIsOomDyFYBH5t7io1c1yhliFANIGJ2-ikfY_WSw=w987-h381-no |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 01/18/17 at 16:30:32 This is the standard 15" rear wheel - just too darned low.... We're gonna have to go with the 18" (live and learn) http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4O3r9pu-QO3c6zI0y1-M0O-U89L0CEDEBqZiN_gnIedjyLzAcTtuEu4PjlNGcP8fl5aPs3lRY2hedhryB5E8RbZwH8QmUOjqWP6wDQUoheOdUFAuOKhBFfguxBgO3Eq_1OAyqDhCpawkkkJViJVSH7GluS-yJhSr5zoNDydxwlVHGxG92AZdkgBHu5U2C28PjYKq3JcaXTFtw2yufBpMCga-1OO7qiIlnlygSqwVv7oxPP3OtOwg2XTbDzeOtQh9q9wi_s2j6g-eYaxgNY3J6VK6uS5HccZzJY12dBHJRZ-X8bOvXNPNuM3gwGJsP6AqkuyeStLhvYXCxLyYbxJzCmZt1gnPzCYHQAKCfFynqL1dT937kUVt_t7gSrKp8J00nyMsSCDhxfRv5Nb54fSB-rWHZ4eF--eGZibHdWJEcXq5V9Umg_Gsp2J-6fgmZT268DDxkuLeJiPnsRfgPAjCM7qGCaYfTMUJTMAY0GOLBy2hJSOYXFm8SpgCKFxLNSsh4QsfIdfe8UrMqJYMJv7Ss0rzW6BNX2PVN1UxSgwb1FDo93lMjyLlanTm_FuCi2dSEuKHu4arogLlVk87Z3C2Io7UuE-1MaC43iBQ4DzQZXhjr_naRrMxDCLY97IXN5_e9aAjN6x4JqAAcuvhOdC0cCIvJlHTUVI4oLoPKRH5SQ=w987-h381-no |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by Rtrnate1283 on 01/18/17 at 17:01:38 My hardtail is on order from VV as we speak. I can't wait |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 01/18/17 at 17:02:49 6F494F535C49580C0F050E3D0 wrote:
Nice! |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 01/19/17 at 13:28:42 Messing around with the new 18" rear wheel. Gonna be much better than the 15" http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/RG9VPM6_FZVxVPQ3crCVo0iiH4JNRAyEEXzP4NbFReT_dxShc7lUT4YrWSvkaP8NG9EdDDoPfxTYz7jaXvdjkN9dvcdRBci0-sDDm6y32qmYSRcCChb1z2AupK3L2tJin1hI4eDGYpLJyqSJP0-LjaP8gCKQ0VsuWua2ffetX-Wn3OFvEBYnFRPOgGVtxAzQXYMV3X4v_MZeVo8asjkJ_6GvzHptFfnD-hOxWPorrlK5bEt_BZwEtd3W-CIgHOUbz-lukaVZC6Qw3m1QNQ9L0TD5Xun0DR1yo22mRWsR0dN2aYOale0j8hkC4v1p-2NfCNboKpp6a-vZHDsp1tjOuGUcKIAiEiPZ4czqydwIorC2TLly-i-za-BN7lUu74ypc4_5UoHcP2T12oK7LiWnrL8bCox-arukhUCLA76MNQEnpdTUuS6mh_uGimWHqQU6uhZ0INcSukv9F_HOWTM9NHrrumuZxuWbGqK7VNNvL0Ddq9CLpKpl08FwiHuKKc683XR61m1dkCaNZhCIXgnGOpPxbQGFAdseklXLfJFasX1MExAy3RhF4hQ1TAPdkw4gn5zr4XRwWWRSgrXxcjTdyfvQk9czIJYPcMOegl9F38JKtmigwUyPSp16CMRHNNTaGkVPvzyVm9kjd-2UDClIS6Q6jWmNLNrWhB54CvWLDg=w1003-h390-no |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by Dave on 01/20/17 at 06:11:39 What is the width of the 18" rear wheel that you have? If it is from an older bike and is a narrow width......like the 2.15" that was used on the older bikes - you will have to stick to the tires sizes like the 4.00 - 18 that have tall sidewalls and were made to work with the narrow rims. Modern tires are made to work with much wider rims, and if you try and squeeze the modern tires o the narrow rims you will cause the tire cross section to be altered, and you will be riding on a very narrow strip of tread.....and a lot of tread will be folded over to the sidewall and you won't be able to use it. The following table shows generically what tire widths work with the rim width. Be sure to check the specific tire you want to use for the approved rim widths. http://i61.tinypic.com/291nvvt.jpg |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 01/20/17 at 06:33:32 Awesome Dave! Thanks for that chart - It's really going to help us out! |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by Dave on 01/20/17 at 06:43:03 You will probably find that the 4.00 - 18 is also has the largest tread diameter of any tire you can find that will fit on your rim......for the Avon AM26 Roadrider the tread diameter is 26.4". |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by Rtrnate1283 on 01/21/17 at 17:43:02 How long did it take to get your VV hardtail? Been a lil over two weeks now since I put my order in. |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 01/21/17 at 18:18:26 5F797F636C79683C3F353E0D0 wrote:
A little over 3 weeks. We called at 3 weeks to nudge. Jes a really nice guy, maybe a little backlogged though. I'd give it another week and give them a call. |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by Jessechop on 01/22/17 at 04:37:49 7056504C43564713101A11220 wrote:
I have done 2 VV hard tails. One xs400 that arrived in less then 2 weeks. The other was a gs550 and that took 4 weeks. I did a David Bird hatch tail one time......11 weeks! Allot depends on time of year |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by Rtrnate1283 on 01/22/17 at 05:19:11 Ok cool. I'll give it another week or so til I call. Thanks. Can't wait to see your finished product T&T |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 02/02/17 at 15:16:03 Playing around with the disk and the new sprocket - 18" wheel. http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh587/tjeditor/20170124_223431_zpscflv2vgy.jpg http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh587/tjeditor/20170124_223452_zpszljh1lx1.jpg |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 02/02/17 at 15:16:42 Found these at a swap: http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh587/tjeditor/20170124_230849_zpsvmmvok1x.jpg |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 03/06/17 at 16:23:40 Rear brake mock up- http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh587/tjeditor/20170222_210724_zpsffe94bed.jpg?t=1488908273 |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 03/06/17 at 16:28:33 Home built chain tensioner. McMaster Carr ANSI #50 15 tooth. Works like a charm! http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh587/tjeditor/20170301_231406_zpsn4zkgtgr.jpg?t=1488908275 http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh587/tjeditor/20170301_231431_zpsatw4drtj.jpg?t=1488908275 |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by Taysnay on 03/07/17 at 19:05:45 Man this looks awesome! |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by Taysnay on 03/07/17 at 19:06:36 Tons of fab work you had to put in. I am trying to do the same thing to my bike now |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 03/08/17 at 05:41:31 4C79616B767961180 wrote:
Thanks! My buddy and I are taking on the work slowly. No rush. Be on the lookout for tank and seat fab coming soon! |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by Dave on 03/08/17 at 05:47:15 Am I the only one that can't see the most recent pictures? :-? |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 03/08/17 at 06:11:18 4E75786F7E72696F747C716E1D0 wrote:
Sorry Dave - I'll look into it. I try and share from google, but it can be wonky... |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by Dave on 03/08/17 at 06:14:42 It could be my office computer and security settings...they have been fussing with those lately. I see the earlier photographs you posted....the latest batch just looks like this on my screen. |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 03/08/17 at 09:44:33 447169637E7169100 wrote:
Please post pics if you can Taysnay. I'd love to see your project too! |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 03/08/17 at 09:45:02 02393423323E252338303D22510 wrote:
Give it a try now Dave. |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by Dave on 03/08/17 at 18:53:08 Yep....works now. Looks good! |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 03/15/17 at 11:11:39 Front fender mock up... we'll see... http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh587/tjeditor/20170311_001414_zpsvkscozfm.jpg?t=1489513956 |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 03/15/17 at 11:12:44 Rear fender mock up - again... we'll see... http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh587/tjeditor/20170311_001504_zpsd2zeutgv.jpg |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 03/15/17 at 11:14:54 Our tank - yep, it's big... From a Kaw... we're not going the "traditional" bobber route. http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh587/tjeditor/20170311_001448_zpsefjmgze8.jpg |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 04/17/17 at 09:42:06 The disc brake conversion - caliper mounts on the frame angle. http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh587/tjeditor/20170316_220139_zpscdcsgkyg.jpg?t=1492360748 |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by MShipley on 04/17/17 at 11:45:48 IT'S LOOKIN AWESOME..... :) |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by Dagillespi on 04/17/17 at 18:43:54 Looks great gonna do a voodoo someday myself. Riding on struts and spring seat now. Like the tank too. |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 04/18/17 at 14:47:25 6E704B4A534F465A230 wrote:
Thanks! :) |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 04/18/17 at 14:48:35 0722242A2F2F2630332A430 wrote:
Thanks! Let us know when you start - it's been a fun time working on this so far! |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by mpescatori on 04/20/17 at 02:37:25 465857565B465D40320 wrote:
Hi. I'd like to tip you on a good workable option for your "one pedal works both brakes" Moto Guzzi made the V35 V50 V65 V75 "small-medium block" bikes from the mid-'70s all the way to the early 2000's with their world famous "Integral braking system": - front brake lever activates front right caliper, - foot pedal activates rear caliper AND fronty left caliper. This happend through one rear hydraulic foot-pump and one brake compensator (ripartitore di frenata) While I do realize that finding a semi-vintage Guzzi brake pump may be rarer than hens' teeth, you should be able to find whatever you need on British or European eBay. http://www.ebay.it/itm/POMPA-FRENO-POSTERIORE-BREMBO-MOTO-GUZZI-V35-IMOLA-350cc-1980-/142286740203?hash=item2120f35aeb:g:sgcAAOSw32lYrAKH http://www.ebay.it/itm/RIPARTITORE-DI-FRENATA-MOTO-GUZZI-850-T5-LEMANS-1000-GU28668046-/382018997170?hash=item58f21b4bb2:g:q6wAAOSw4A5YvthZ The brake pump is already calibrated at 60/40 but can be "tailored", i.e. 70/30 or close to that... You will naturally want to use the original brake lever (pedal) http://www.ebay.it/itm/LEVA-PEDALE-FRENO-POST-MOTO-GUZZI-850-T5-1000-SP-LEMANS-1000-GU28676548/112349430242?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140620091323%26meid%3D5f7d866915c348d7a00f209cfcc17acf%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D382018997170 You will find the same brake pump off an older big-block Goose (850-1000-1100cc) while the 1200cc 1400cc versions might prove a bit too powerful for your lightweight hardtail. ... ::) ... Of course, you could save a whole lot of money by fitting a universal brake proportioning valve... http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjQwWDY0MA==/z/d40AAOSwB09YPId8/$_12.JPG http://www.ebay.it/itm/RIPARTITORE-DI-FRENATA-UNIVERSALE-adjustable-brake-proportion-lever-racing-valve-/142194305128?hash=item211b70e868:g:d40AAOSwB09YPId8 ...but it wouldn't be an OEM, old stock, semi-vintage BREMBO of racing heritage, would it ? ;) |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 04/20/17 at 06:51:37 362B3E28383A2F3429325B0 wrote:
Awesome! Thanks for the info! Very helpful!!! |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 05/10/18 at 16:03:45 Wow - Time flies. I can't believe I haven't posted any progress on our "bobber" in over a year! Sadly, not too much to report. Since my last update, we've done several "turn-and-burns" to keep the coffers filled and we've gut rehabbed the garage. However, we're back in work mode and did a proof of concept on the brakes - it worked great! We found our bars, headlight and foot-pegs at a swap and we think they'll work out well. We bought our carb and new flange. And last but not least, we finally decided on a seat mount design. Here are a few pics: http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/61usmfP6g0k-csQEExxCFj-qbIvu-PVLdgPkrkUGHKZCzQHs521_372P-H3tiack3D7gNKA0KzeST8zz4-ZxYNLWdUK6GiqHI51c6qu3aofkpBYkIC5wVgNpD8TX55J7KP-Cw5xAlmID7jEe4r0NMYFNx-Lebicq9zImzgrgtZzgmv_M2RHEorBtmWyDqKshnH36lUmPVQRnFH0avu_n2FM8gJchVOxEXs4GBN-37XH5poXlWkrRlJum2EEFL6hjlYgklHp5yt452gviT3ie7se9r6cM-NpEVIPhCZNZOrAq5sVIwrh1NYzkTNiPTheq9_jPKEh4rnfPbdT8yKjZLnEZKLVe38a4ZO95ALWnBk4syRNpqLj6uW9NaQJqBApr2Ob-MpAXp6j-qrSyJD9Vhi3fgwBZAWXSxtAPARSmjk6EzcqYIEqUIpOqw7CUkyucu8TR2PkqTWhQheHXWwUI5mY3ZahXEwFMk8ypuaXYiutFHeTF7JUrX5_OKI-ghqpzKcXownjuEPIudIBjk_IT_kGbeaDpj6pZsm4Pj-_j1ko6B9G7siYIw1a8etovoRS50ymNkoVrZ5qGNgfizE2fhWJ8tHgOUIy23TFnf2C_=w1030-h449-no http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/BXJ5uzNYIOKDQ_9Q1ih00Gy1RlMq0TvR9nKd0JIaXbW1Ja3BXRx8tFDcyCn5fAGnA9UlF5lHPInR9OF_0KLbsU04kRVCJpZK2h46hQmfLWiouyG5Pgt-PSCcYk1ehVlFT3pBPRS6cfU7V3tbLV8gct9qvaWAedZSQFCIKXKESwK_55Z4MXZg5_zohzjooFubsil1BtwxmTGjT21q1Y_VTGGgiZUK7EHGt4dCr2bZgvlfpJ0_q07WcX3e0Kx4m855KvpSiCPA0ZGkYyVi9bRmOWq5jpa7GTMBz7sEx0PIDt2jRMbMMfWH22wQg19c3vLL8CJF98ga0cvZ1MnesTKN7Y6WcGQ4Xzc6oLvE7X0jMMZsm9CYu1s6wFWdXDpR2ZRQomJvqhESOkh6McHeEGhYVEKVq0q8cY-Y-QclgZKySvGBRR8zECeGVmcor4x2Oo_CgJoYLqOBVoy5hyt4nI6JZToW3Wg5Rx9xfTDz7K87gr9Z25I7tAjWju2SAeNi5zp20rFeJewUlfatTzJETmoAT3NRUnr-E9Ecq4P0dpiaK9zbG7ngCbuo1takwY3Zb_RXohL1kvZ2rYov8-WKoo72Z9Jf-En_wdHqfZNfpjsZ9pcW6mVYmT9PncdZGjCZDmh3ibB2zPjJO5wpTkN9KWiY2bu4xLmUqpSWJQ=w1030-h449-no http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/WQm8rQby8vownQnUQ890lL2PygQM9M1D8HkOsEt8rUygrMSKPb_UkCKr7OY8yuqRWX0nP56436L3zq-KmVeiAA0JNNcuaCJpUHU8mbTPC5-nLsAiq0oevCCNEkNmRc1_gjFmwGDOcRHhdsZvtgT_7CjfycrDQUsj44mTF6MnQ3_vo7w5TR86V6OYxTkp98yAEmebQ3THSk7bLb8GTOyyc-GM_Z4JfMesUh37XYbjiKaGH0lRgWHJAWsZPVpj2Lm532b_XL-ZkGfaTWxIzfD95zvr9yoKNh5p6vCDTXdvqHLKg8E4E0qN8ynripvtOPHKbKhuO7N8n7sd9BfKKQfDLWvsaZiZaqOAR9TR9TgIRuGjHOt4XBVXe3hYsS7FwPs_7LSdnAZhUfvz7rscYU_Fd30PjdL9f4Z4REDsJddiGvjO2wOUqyqxzw8vPSLFlxaUqg2sj5S5kKZOIj55H-lTgmQoOxa1AWMdcmkPUiizmwk3fkJ4IfVnyOYlFzrGUc6b5fOtmTAnXioEwY_7T-OBLbwph1ZTWIZGvIgS8C0dB6ZvC_qAIXYC1LNQvuezl0ZjrU6tlXaWB6qonYE-gx6Q6yYkYYcr9JPW1kyuRQ9FzdnmoCTrf397nyjZ-8YIFtyxBc_xJA3t4dOA-vyrBZPDL3Xrz273OSlJlA=w1030-h449-no Running our brake lines through the frame. http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/WzKdyybhmfGyMg4gxb7SkagKl5Hnt-0BmPajOSPumoZc2u4V28TTSUo8sAH06KztTF3c6YpTgkY_LHSC2PGeV4NMtTMvoVg5-EJDYYXAXbi7IVNjsTFzhHgWBkG8cIGTDovJtIkclb9vvpPIEtUPQhg7V5oRzblJ9BNfMxVMbEuQiId5qTHIvEESl6uptLCS7stmrnpzXlyjTSkC31nBqAxwSzjJqpCGuHSW_pNwkbi1LjwCMmsRpjlMfUasqlf9cs8hxn9Tm4Sx0dbkwNoqS0IQeUEbV2sNY-vm1SC6wlWr_toZsTBBcswJjJWqjOJ5ZYB6s8xF_O2RCVc8Xpq9klXQoj_TlZIEdCf-lihc5GOfLGRZOcz11AsIPTz8YAOnlyVplrQxnZCjiPTxk0JNqRU_GNWDaTEnp6oSXBwzBmC7wSPG-72j0tKUJWLR4LeqFksN0iUk0Pco-jE0RiYRZLmc8ozxmKNv3G1InK2cKrwqSbGZQRitYzLBw-fQEvyUIhBrL1EmkR5dUVJ9m2dceWByNFmfqRpEm8I0Su3NqHoDD9QdGtxYXoIkUwkoBeUM00yWHnABYk0CkZm5eTDYX_xG9zzdkiOkd8dAXWh84TcdVxwjKRivmoYDnV2RRXu28ZUp3rbalsR56vAgfcSwmtUrRTBBDo8DuQ=w525-h1101-no Our conduit for the front brakes and wiring. http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ThBBusJhT0rt8fqA0WtcjEZsktspLHYABCENuN7NmLVt1DNcqw7W4DcOwpi11ynZ2mnD7g_bEXxXMk1XSwTdnzqXtBKLwspXsS5sPxQMVnO6dKg7lvfrzCsCteMNLrMtM9N2QEShmkQFvb2mJTAFOXArqfxy676YN0QLZt5rkjGnjyp0IVCb39tba6Jr3-E9KcYURCgEdlBKpUIA3tkeNa4iN94f6RZovR9kqIT-Kz4yWfhiacsqYpR4bm_b2XBHuqhA9UYZAM8mNZRBa6baOAQbRwxwnhMch4QYXxH8MC6Kc275yf_LjqM9RvczCioRAv-j7T-sy667m9wZYCpj-2ZU4J9aQQe6C2w4p0enNcMLSWvrV-2kLLg1Sq33tcw3Q-uomsIrHGc_pW-fOahZpGxvtmA9h72yf91xsPMmlXuMfl9u98JYkJ_DCXi3yPuz-PfRjiDEKskslL4AZcMZBJ1KzS_c_AaQh6haUn_NO67G0PBtVAb6HqyYn00Wv0XJl_HyKuiJeXYHREe2LSUiAkk1wJPmqgrnCBwW6gw4vUyXArKGoNChQEEudD1B9are27_wS-h0LXTbN_DOoonbFBoqYc2GVby1q6oocx-0zU1yZYhqLXyATaWFgUS5VYB3hfRILciD557aC5oqmU5cQFu7-oK8bHStdA=w1030-h449-no Seat design - KISS - keep it simple, stupid. FYI, the tank is not quite into position. Next up - handlebar controls. We're going to do an internal throttle and clutch. A la - no levers.... This ought to be interesting. :) |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by sandmanred on 05/11/18 at 03:28:19 Looks great! |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 05/11/18 at 06:13:16 22303F353C303F233435510 wrote:
Thanks! |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by ohiomoto on 05/11/18 at 06:39:06 Loving the look with that tank! I'm not sure about the rear rotor mount though. I think you might be underestimating the torque those 4 bolts are going to endure under load. I'm seeing those threads getting ripped right out of the hub. Or I might be overestimating the load they will take and it will be fine. Anyway, if you think it could be an issue, I would machine a solid ring that is welded or bolted to the hub. Then bold the rotor to that. That would eliminate the twisting forces those bolts and spacers are going to have to withstand. |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 05/11/18 at 11:30:11 6A6D6C6A686A716A050 wrote:
Point well taken Ohio - great minds think alike! We're using the spacers for the time being for placement. Once we're set, the guy who modified our rear hub was goint weld new custom machined ones in place (we need a thicker wall/larger OD). But I like your idea of a ring.... we'll look into that. I'll post the progress. Thanks again! |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by ohiomoto on 05/11/18 at 11:46:25 Cool. Even if you do the spacers, at least tie them together with some flat stock so that they cannot flex individually. Essentially making them act as a single unit/ring/whatever you want to call it... |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by batman on 05/14/18 at 23:48:56 Myself I think I might go with the proportioning valve ,for it allows you to adjust the balance. It's hard to tell from your pics ,is that rear disc larger and is the caliper stronger than the front? If the valve was mounted with in reach you could adjust it on the fly , that might be good if say you were caught is heavy rain and you didn't want the rear locking up.It being small, simple, and reliable speaks well for it use. |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 06/06/18 at 15:45:12 Sometimes, you just can't find the right tool.... ;D http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/BCH-MwX8_JKpun8KeBffYpFs42g2ltenG1KXPJElgvS4T5nAvuA15kFm0kugLnqHXebIlXnIC78UrfGEGEYW9oepsPY1XUJ4uMsGhuRZgAiITziDj9W_JFg7ZZ_N-MhA6fyKshPY80SngEEnVJ0T1YBJyhWzuyvA21tBpGN36nKSghi91ttpp7rR9ZXcGBTMmLA7LsQzLVWjsZA0-rt0Q9-f3OHUu4A-qE_5gUPxO5Rn0mkw4WuaRw7jisUZ7n0-ilN1RqxSFy8mIPb2VULKOH6P39KGcn9z5G_cqejt0GMb6ZqlD0QvOXhuSrv6Y4JEKjFSnpNxMIhzySWoJqVZDol81l6Q27kee0KwiJRUi4ersoe7Kvp0-TbpMZ_qknlzMmZKtaPUVkSyQSJumBVg6gk_dfiCohm3POQYbBQoiLvC0cicZklJoEpJedl1KRfuXDjKZp8kiVkDABlEVGedY7dyl2cie71esiHldvOeiWziWg4xoGVsjLrtSYLptiY7tJiTEcqxfpNGC7I9PBM4efVWtFAUic5EZnXUYq9tSUoS2rayGXaz3aJ6T3U_XxQNdbYpewqrjKwIbHfTo7LCqmRx0FJLsc69toAY7wT3EIVmxiAG5Q1WqCqMWXV7IGZOuDS7h0BB08tBK9QgLx1sdObpEedG4ORZMQ=w639-h1136-no |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 06/11/18 at 17:00:10 Exhaust possibility... (nope, it wont be that long ;) ) . Very preliminary http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5ry2YHG4VAMffr1O8QUe8kOAHuiJPWPcBYxZrVdwkqcBTPprYYA62XMFRdzOw-svCVgzwLEDBxiLfRuQ4kpxq7IPKutofKYl1Fm2GacHPWHOkFyxw5e_3WH1j2E-KZsKH7-gFZGBvDhew9TDX4Limztkqwq5boZ4uvXMIr6SxU8JlzUGEexLrZOngxYOmkf0V9XF_w438CYazpkWHrSJySNou8LsCi1JWIfQgZbYDcDn-814t7bdpidkzKSKLt8wRgeWGX7JeBGHsS8g749-u72j7-tYSn80DRcp3Wsz2QSjnMMWkefCCeeTWX-nePOIBHrFRRZiO53Yj5oy38Xqj07xxVYMX3UzXhqf02nz7zq8_OVxOJVpf6LW2_-UAJIRpi3qZyTIoHTAeIOeLB98a_kDDc3t254QlPhryIoqJwl7Ed_BQI4VcomepNq_qgxEF_Iis7RRaaCh35vOYtrX81egDu4XAOHwcH4uWcovhd14nD4fx5w_ZyCmc6IUY9j8nlYj6IlLub0vc4k8fBpAudZELxHc_J8lrFJTnZ0gk_wLUxPYEm7_wQtVud4wiKYqFOuQonwx3HbLgbct8U7yTKbeKJW49C7h6lVAWL-kwp-AXMHCphYHZU44wBw2vGAyVhidtVsaDg1Cd7gL4wjgpOoo5-JpRwcoTQ=w1074-h561-no |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by maxmamo on 06/29/18 at 13:44:08 Very cool |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 05/14/20 at 14:50:06 So, it's been quite a while since we've posted. We've gone through quite a bit, but we're nearing the end Here are some updated pics: Frame back from paint http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Dpqw0mivuLtbU2_hvrZpP4z9olnt-hFVtPkdcGqLH04kbYEUq4f4ldmBF3POBJLtF6px-pxfoQjwg4z9n2o6KoSyx-yZiiD5xC-4-973GFsxa45rykza3Jjn7ty80KBMqNWRM9Km4QvsVD7hbsnR0kQjp1Vxrusn4AVQNHyCVQRReDiQroZmgtr0XgXRBqsJh-URzEt6DUF95QDs5hK9m96uLBkSWzdNMmQDCY7GYyW0W7uCXSQzW9S-RxH5HfTauii9ubAUmgiCmNlzYmLn1GzBlNZzldX3mupzErK0EMEcg808shVU7COw3LGJAgz1sMdr8xDXNSaYsCqOBOECl5RiHahTvhkso2UcwDmVXC0vRgUdEdPjeNmuYxu___xXxe9XVDKiXNEQJil-3sOutd-cS29mnND_SG8DpeC2xc2KYYIhvIietQ_yv3lLq_telnjp0jEA-9cdmm8S0VW7vS-Zi8x47Kii16riorET_chXqutEnX2iCIE579NbeiStQgIR1lWTbdmdnlwFLHLA2HKq3g8LoTUUp4z57lbI9AByH81QHljTPQjsxXh-6QGlwEtGkeKaxt7_lzi3wOVSNtVnO4XyQFo0c532zNs1fwJUqpoR1RKNmpTS_9fsNFBL40TOc5h3NzijPnOjFpvE7kivFbWq4giFkWMCnNvF7fxG229EWnIstpS-b1Y6gv8=w1130-h522-no?authuser=0 Top-end rebuild and new clutch http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/kLQOCrsf2K0n3j5uQsvWrPAANFZVW1fegCsSgzVAYC0Tjs3Sxor8pYTzgDHRLDTWrFsEqsT2hyVS2dX099nTBl8ZqT0KNC6IG3pJ9oCTEaHXCDa2gjUx6xQ1qGzSBy2ZPN5hk7tblEx9lVfUfkV2VSG0LTpqF1t2A-Qoha_qJ9y5dTGZLZJwCy3m-vPzfapPOgmsWlD5JN1K7aMr3CquHumSEesEm5GZtW5Ilo44Sc4Noalu1wAZTEBoRex9Zaj0vfgNX5qnJqZvIZi__7yHLM355o_dxKhKbUtiPr8UfTowbtz7d45Rg2Cy5nverTv8GgXwRDZ3Ab2GTrOXae4HsE0lq2HtGNWP1gP0S_TTVRmOopDAcdSiM103-uhmmrzOEny80e-QmKP44ArWgG9DjB9huEfmd_VllAzvPv2t1YvASUKCwCAEqcGWCJROryNIzvQY1QsYZBfTvodOPHOj8MMUxNh7v3068cxGl7_bkqF37HHl63DtTJN16OxMTAT1ba4qNceohC-LMP5ClNRWsTvkx9M0AqVRSQGfpPsKeruFzNNRlO8ScFBYiSAOEjrP6H1kMwcKjUm2ZCJMKStZ-8tMzKlJiqeqIQnGOaAk6latGA-2VkzSblj19yqFhg0MVD9vlGDRqFjM3aH5dkVz-xAo6DBgo1pCdQx8fC5dcmfR4vEqNv8pyPOrySOh8cHhlWCWlxsZ1GAqM8ehOCKTSh3CZ_LeLygajSxyKpieJnUy7sGBvqDskeER=w1130-h522-no?authuser=0 Powder coating spokes http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/eYX3DygZBiabeI12V4ElvgB1xZ6szvGD8YPvJsJzNbs42eXLcngBgBc2aHZsMD52vjn0_CLe2pg5aZYzmCRcolELQDiS3-n7YHSvXTD5AqhlecImcUW0LqtSSv15dj3MdqHC_V17eWc2WHWzIu2KwuApxBxqi6GfVpOFfW-iTX0AKE3G0W7atZHzTgzJRDgaEkKIDRhBI33fkt3ShmjVxqM31C7fKzckvMLztlH39HreBvuKG8cBTBKZ3x99daAxoVBN1Z4-P0bMeaE210vpTcxumrAgaUk4bua1jfMXOEUPPgkRSQ-4kVD2UwFEzn8IenOLCYkmSfQcjlzWMVRBa7qW27bLm6GVUKwR-09izrOmSorD5F7ifquQdHsYM-GGsfH5ctHORZzn8AWHghtyx1H5ZMJNY63XlYZw_De0FRGLX1TqctjV0pEgeQiZBdWgnPRzTKIxAmGrEstF0XbUuvP7U6m27_mvPZXeAfk1Ojb2L_ft7wskzlkxgrtapFXdLmbYc8fcDZX5q7tnXzxSJ88IFb6xsB5KsGX4e4VThFeNQcqB9war4cSJD-pdr-AWt9fwgokhLctcuNrRNMDJRSwghaWv8zZSxT2nUD_2AtdSGFXa-d3HUQ_LWQMihL6vXxMDh9pC6LKFa97MHGQ6TqvT5G-mA1nqORbW9vzM2saTStIPgYlyIzzxsMYMRxDOK9CcuIWA3GMml0IvTOaorsYJ4hqnMKHfASv3wMeaFQRnsC4-m6pmRbfG=w1130-h522-no?authuser=0 First time lacing wheels - quite "fun"... http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/aXoZocnUb1S1q6nI05aijNdsZ-oEragdRajsw3U5PxUehpuNXg51kEdAQK_J032OvAnTlzpyz83Ozpl5LQJ2zqUDkYo_udHGbZbiISsDbbiCI2hnYJeYQzkApY9Q8e1DdQr0ajHl0Gy84jb3zgz4XjVmy9cnRa7E4XzEz43M5AOhhyBFezWmy6vHQzSJInuwIRJ_GiTQEe-LlyQ5B2l51SZex9xKjPMBIgxe7BCe3vAXwDlj7X4c1vq1jUBQsghia63iKBym5rXwW662sTobcb6bzdqqmnlYNelhoBOaSnJ19fzoOzkFnRzjhgLQPp7o5ddHiIhypRr9ePdJXSbEXvaPbXE5I5K8vBC5IkhaAqx09j7evCPCP3MrpJCP4OJoZYE3koOuVbxd-sn6hCaaotsv6w9Me_LUTpOEa3f5JCXSjLLPQpzpP3seckAOTB_uWhmtt4MCxBKx6ByJOFZa8G6KdBrkMH6jp8P44JVrFysEnaf5Z0IolEs2vTKwFe7dtdiWbedQ__udynh7HdXqbK_TcQk0blzwqpvQQvEagLTBoYa2_zo8SUsdjbyGzHfg-bj_Mm1lQLZMQvRg12pJmO8FhXvOsZ8BH-wy4dZv0G30i1cV9Jz7QMGUOqJqaILLVXKtr6Sp_eHrZ5dVpHaUibK5EQwqMu-v_P0qqQPVKemd-ZDBGOLXQiJHLUaJiBnj4RlFyNTf5-9d0ES2vqrRB-bdwydFOeBk-q5PMCUEoJ_g0Dd41M3hdXib=w918-h522-no?authuser=0 Then there's the truing - also... "fun" http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/HJdjnGtOEAfSzV48_VAy5qQxTSP5VzcYjCIx_HHA9qZY-or2rGUMUrtw6OqZ6V7GmOIXdOUr_yXRbWaQTH3pqFwv_LlkO6SUesvRHlxHQeoKFPZmC4YPmioVeH5Hy8BLM6Ph1zcDEJ0LIh_0NVTz9g7g5Ov8Mg8g52SSkZsph9bQVArn4Oq90unkcXrqcIhd4nB6uH2Uzvr_z-NxEXTv5f0GLBi7m9ZsRaNzntpVyY14CYMP5NI462WZ-Jq3vfSpXPThMC4s2GTAAHmbyIKt1BCIuifS-fLAPHePIWuUPNdWNqbddg3nO8iNm6ZbOofh-emMJ-vfCDrUD52ELOAnlpKttekpDzCTujFzC87ontLWvaXm5FWdNkCwnKnQPBEYD5yHsQbjtVE-mCZ16_LNP-EzO0hQGuGz0zIrhtnmvad35GFxNPBVZYKRFIAkeVnhlGjRjS72fMQlrCsyhINYfsgiJMzTMZNOgZBTnq-Ap9Ohgcrj2h9A69dATJxCt_rGYJIMw7szqpzeyc0oJcrQg29qfJbVnDjdDCzXJS0LZLiGr6whjCchvbdXRrJtCeBu_mqUwppSHxRYGoMDb9bCcZFfPwRsnYLYraYlg04e3YZ-AFp8D3vskX7ioviFJqsI7yiQoO861FbFYJGcvJu7SdZnWT8nQPSQj3o5X9yUm-AGyEEAT3avS2tHHD4Ek_iPZtq23xqfqQBkK-jTiyEY40OH3Mccyoc5wihsoiTa8kEzFl1R2P8rXRnr=w918-h522-no?authuser=0 Easiest way to put the engine in? On its side! http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tNIwq5i2FvI6wlxFIM5lkHAYQyIZcoljXD3IRmVoZj6ErW_9INXmkJDqVj3t6vKs3xNcCKUNYWFDL08O-31hQfGd_NJc2Pdzve8Mg28iz0HYZ6d7QDMSgXYjdve5CiC9kkAkxaHUz6QHrmaFhS9CUdfCGxlixu1UEcM011dJwd4IZnQCsAwd7VzgHKyXj0yIZC7kwh6BuVMHfE4Oyk-biP4tguBMZ0v4kuzaNFnOva3HVWswURJ9WVt8EmxTNgb3iQKUQj5lWluXKOVaeDV1Ft17pgw6dEX3mTk_Dwbq5xA_uFd1WjfygFb7AM0xBLVMmBQx-gE0Pg3RIbFfkpPUfosRjOrU4n7m4LqxL5eKo7XAbR6oiIOi0Hfi26Lvgn7E4k6Sf0V3rL4AEsQ6k7pTf9ehBprZ32kl4TG-dAnWYymIOpT67rn2QpbJZB2ArB2RCpHXuoh2YkJm4N2zojJP4YZq_22H48oPuKJVZtlzAM9txZafEn_7SvjTK_yon4ICtyYJLnx4Wj7bR5ecTMJlbsIabM9ZEq7oVbfT5r2V9um220zOlyLxO6Sry5ei5ZVBVS6zFsLdoFxKWYVMn-UF3XIrrUVG4JcD12UZM9AicpIsM7zdCCwU7v4DKyX-8yiWb8va_6WhWFvCP5kNEX2W4IY1lbvoYdH_rXDCR0tobpkW9ckH0fjo2daRb5WBwl9PpZkCusUBmbY59r-O1Ejz52o85JlgA6q5NeVamkilAELLtfRnMPkk6E-3=w1630-h522-no?authuser=0 Starting to come together http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/CUQ1DjNyoyeBdujif5IOfahz01r9s_L3hZPZ8U2Ej_6fCQMcBajR-moRfd3FpveAP7ofb8gQwqcJ1GLl9vN40A5sDX16HiSqON2ROM-RJGgSdRavKx2G4x4b0jXD2JThiScI9680bhjUcUrTgfHNOX5QeH016mqB2bU9fTUohEqprsQB_4zcq5JtewAUGG3L3UT5AG8PvX2bohyBIClE2S9Rq-jVu7-Qn7SiIsqfcIeuOW3Pva6Qtbvrcwlnc56u0yoIAYBGHdvp-QdEQyj2qNAylUXmUk8uRop1ebDswH0GoiOXlkZIX9LhXDmRMDqAnaGCQmkQOpGDLIGZY13l_Er-G3N6v7agygFQxn1Z4wAjZc7iqHMEKzO4JaOymS27JQdp3AbgZADHr9Y7qjbGS2RMo9RisvlyHwr52dQ6vmoSwfrPk30RSe1M4_zcu3xzh0wliz4M8b0kbScogkLBIFmtGL_xu7ien4mY64L40dNsAbJW4ojhO_r-AYruJLRshUHgbpJ7a_srvUZ0F1Vq6DZriGwzdf_wixmEt3Y1O-fDMv7wsdG4Qj2p2y2TTPe617dRPXoEaOSG8_UiLXEHDH3EcPVsTCPx1z8LFlB0nsssDfROjfPwDxdACPaCOltOS3PwUq4fcARDEK-ozPdRyHfxp_10y8CCfl_PAGQqc5IW4OHTOPngXBVp0F_ZMIqPNYGTU13h66eS1NFIxtcTABy2T1XBmUgmQTSQ1qQvpPAwMgupTGpIWlhr=w1630-h522-no?authuser=0 Reverse clutch lever http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/GUvUGFpYQO47Bpgs18wKD70eH1ksP3J1Gb6_eF-lW4G97hrBx4VVIr-kCbkvz1wpkjvrgFR7Y7atvKvdjEhFHHgKPg31XP89b_J7t3AkNzJvWvIgIofPXCB1tcoxeBfKx-jdvIJOAFEXb8JCMG-N0xDsqj8fbpxGTzIi7k07j2t4zb-f1kIVeAhQnX3rWwhzNOzq3bPu9NW8YTuH6iXRzyYtbonwQd3sZtRB2vSHDBi9J5N_ZmBVfnVbSyX3uGns_9FJHhLLv4uxvMT30wHC5-tPMG6ILbLlHtceuxZaxhAUwgtlg4ywSSBSvpX5s0xO5LiZUMbih8l3IjEC0m0za9hIuIONzjUHo0ODc9TRYdQI18ej31b6VXkdWDrcMdaweqEB-xWFmEZ0ZwvPz-EsXWy6QgvEuns-UA7LlTAhJSFOsz_I8SLbRGaLKeVYQuCOR9SEKgYgLb921ReZEbqwKyU919z9j_hdn5-0o7FJ9-GHVu-F2xv3amM4tQVtwHzY-izJqgz5tzAcJqCpqJazJlqnv8r-eoHqemwAZCMk7L9kculL2VHzOLC05j8tW7Esm3IDrQOCfJevrxG6M2DAui3wGoeL85cOgB5DL_QMyJjLbGgDXFvzmN_hVLg9i9PMA6k0VZu-8Nks9fTSQ7dlJmwaaHLabhCasQgEqd7GK5vgLgtW6l48EXdKEOxt10hW9OTUyTgiyTGilCewQq7fyOhjoU-uQisKGKy7ESKG1mFQPASskxuJ45jB=w918-h522-no?authuser=0 http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/POch7y2hT34PNE0WUtCo2CCjWsMOyRERG8jM78QhixjUtFmO82__JyDjEK9EGb_NbVyAYLnDEkMkofjRry_aC-UtYLLfUSw3wcAgYno8930BeOfytFzwLpJA8X-ktu-e_Xew8bQrPiJIZolyl82jSzYX_x7ANgPAC3fb_QJNhA7ljdi-5PjR-VM134-0j6sPmeI-dcFtNXh4Dmd-9zZbKKmY_GDJ7wK_vBbOPnSRtK8oxRQK0Pn28Rbf3WP55fHBQ37sg1f_r26zKdZ0m4eA6xmF_50xOQSZCGJjJy1jY4_kLhbs70xy6pT1ibLX4Km2ZGJ1597Peu54u3SYu6Qzj2rF5eUM0Qtl83X3z71NbiOugM93rLvxBWgFQwT3bozUvP-nEkVyYflwZuGa4cmQb77ZZIUw8kgWweQFSnEOrk0gmNESWasm3FydZnDy7lserfKEG5Db85aWcAojPtQzpuQJZcrKX8UKbosAhGBZ02mBWTyrAHvnQiO7wsLpgGHvfp0UJJ4mqomYazziDbXjr44fL-8uk_BsfyOyKd8ckdIIujsHeruBIPCKLpXc_7TuGfQ9KAQyqLDk8f8a-H0akocPbIVuxF5Gs-cUIZjNRInhFslugAej6mA4hoL1Lu0i62V-Bz-WiTVxRplPV0MPUvzVN71X30GEnb1Vs-rnplUSzIkywDKSFJbqLGzUN_Ae2AMcsQnJObV5Oc0ALuMefUJcTvvyl3pOZ5WskIJgiMZRydVg40xnc-rl=w1630-h522-no?authuser=0 |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 05/14/20 at 15:05:30 This project has pushed up our base skillset. Things like wet brakes, frame mods, electrical systems, seat design and a few other things. Virtually everything except the engine has been redesigned. We purposely didn't want to do the "stock bobber" from Voodoo or Ryca. From the internal throttle, reverse clutch, to the single brake pedal controlling both front and rear disks, to hiding everything in the frame and under the tank - this was a great challenge. Since starting this project we've done several "turn and burns" to keep the kitty stoked - that's why it's taken us so long. That, and life has way of diverting your attention... We're about ready to ride it and we'll post more pics in the near future. This has been a great experience - I hope to do something like it again. Thanks to all who chimed in! |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by ohiomoto on 05/14/20 at 19:04:24 Nice work! Looking really good. More pictures please. |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 05/17/20 at 11:37:30 OK - so.... We're very near the end. Chain tightening, a few more small pieces to powder coat, and finding an interesting neutral light and she's ready to go! http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fpEnuxcJ4clFMaIAvuweCxs_tF8A9qj_PBncgl4-zcBqHHkzNJmBwabJi0djjUq_vTZiXzfbdh4I25H-HDi0293AxLCc3NkITB6jJkGLjGDdd4leuRQBw5WKiuyZ7ByxKg0Vp1Rtg08ViILTmqaJAI-Q=w1630-h522-no?authuser=0 http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3eOKQ9goijUbhtH8_0FDxb0fMe2qR5K7Ilrj4tyzg0dZdIUfaKw0QxgaENDROIwUX5e1CJoBtg0Ist7rD26gb2sas3-P4tX-iGWLZ_dDC0kHABBVa5pyCTJ0vkNZg8RRFDlUK5rz-HyFqvPYMVwuXgNvg=w918-h522-no?authuser=0 http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cjtWXoA9t2TVqDxyBDyL938W8ET9vssijl075Pev9-nVYD7ugb5bazHXVVQvLbQBMZyw5p3t84QwAtl1BTyCWQMnuYSU_XRlj8U5E7gOBsysNrc4VU_xyh_EvRujH9K65x89cbcE3CUWc0FUl-ZU1dbw=w1630-h522-no?authuser=0 http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3ciK7HCJ6bpF5T1hOODIq8n5e337v4xgcgu79vElQNdfuhqwIqeFKnscuKlrVgZ_n1PYulPvHKTTSX-Y1VDmHSkBGXBgpO3RkM4_zDJokwj-VlidbaI0htpHBBkk5lCfj1-QsPXlqzMvEjrx4cJJJxkbQ=w1630-h522-no?authuser=0 http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3eChOh0iVMSTVb_7OWqTjjuVVT8KcKqy5uUr6PtVZGa8-gjUjXGLAx9zc-fO_Jy-GRDP0eMIGc_Kb1AzCAY7QYQTcYP-S3urUjTzxQ9zPcCeiZTyl5TPtu6OoTu14BMH2ZxEH7KtTb3g3vFiDEU7QUSWw=w1630-h622-no?authuser=0 |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by verslagen1 on 05/17/20 at 12:19:38 Is that a chain warmer? ;D And where did you find that seat? |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 05/17/20 at 13:01:12 6A796E6F707D7B79722D1C0 wrote:
Why, yes, it is! lol We just wanted to do something different with the exhaust. And that's definitely different! For the record, this is strictly a bar hopper and small show bike (no concord of excellence - LOL) As for the seat, it's a Denfeld - a BMW seat. It's nice and wide for my fat butt and the leaf spring gives a nice soft ride. |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by badwolf on 05/17/20 at 15:46:08 Finally!!! Someone with a bobber/hardtail that admits it is NOT a everyday rider. |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 05/17/20 at 20:48:59 7476657B65677F767E65170 wrote:
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by Matchless G11 on 05/18/20 at 04:08:42 Fantastic work TT! It has that bmw R-27 look to it. I see that you had mocked up some fenders previously. But would valanced fenders look too out of place? I know it is not so easy to mount with the hardtail. |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 05/18/20 at 13:46:17 2B323C3C6A6A293E2F3E3830686F6E5B0 wrote:
Thanks Matchless! Yeah, we mocked up a whole bunch of stuff, but in the end, we stuck to our motto, K.I.S.S (keep it simple, stupid). Fenders were too much. :) |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by Dave on 05/18/20 at 15:07:29 It looks great to me - however I just can't figure out how the exhaust blowing on the chain is going to work out well. Heating up the chain and countershaft sprocket can't be a good idea - even for short rides. Seems like you will cook the lube out of the chain pins, overheat the rubber seals if the chain is an O-ring chain, and likely cook the countershaft seal as well. Just sayin' :-? |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 05/18/20 at 15:27:56 7A414C5B4A465D5B4048455A290 wrote:
I have no doubt you're probably right. I guess we'll see. But honestly, if this goes more than 5 miles in a ride, I'd be very surprised. If we do get to the point where someone wants to ride it more - we may have to consider a new pipe config and chain guard. But hey, what a conversation starter, right?! :D |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by Matchless G11 on 05/18/20 at 17:18:25 756B646568756E73010 wrote:
I have no doubt you're probably right. I guess we'll see. But honestly, if this goes more than 5 miles in a ride, I'd be very surprised. If we do get to the point where someone wants to ride it more - we may have to consider a new pipe config and chain guard. But hey, what a conversation starter, right?! :D[/quote] The pipe on the chain reminds me of when Puch put the clutch in the rear hub. And when a bike builder (don't remember which one) made his rear sprocket do double duty as his rear brake disk. Why … well why not! There are reasons but so be it! Nice clean build. |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 05/19/20 at 13:07:03 41585656000043544554525A020504310 wrote:
I have no doubt you're probably right. I guess we'll see. But honestly, if this goes more than 5 miles in a ride, I'd be very surprised. If we do get to the point where someone wants to ride it more - we may have to consider a new pipe config and chain guard. But hey, what a conversation starter, right?! :D[/quote] The pipe on the chain reminds me of when Puch put the clutch in the rear hub. And when a bike builder (don't remember which one) made his rear sprocket do double duty as his rear brake disk. Why … well why not! There are reasons but so be it! Nice clean build. [/quote] Thanks! Clean is what we were going for. As few cables and wires showing. |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by batman on 06/04/20 at 21:04:46 Ground clearance seems pretty small . I'd be careful on the first ride. |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by T And T Garage on 06/07/20 at 13:08:39 383B2E373B346E625A0 wrote:
Oh, it's low alright! I love it! :) We've done some shakedown rides and it's pretty stable. You gotta watch it around corners though (those foot pegs are not long for this world!) To be honest, it actually rides really nice. Better than expected. |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by Matchless G11 on 06/08/20 at 03:36:28 786669686578637E0C0 wrote:
Oh, it's low alright! I love it! :) We've done some shakedown rides and it's pretty stable. You gotta watch it around corners though (those foot pegs are not long for this world!) To be honest, it actually rides really nice. Better than expected.[/quote] Speaking of low, is that a kick stand or some sort of center stand in your list pic holding up the bike? |
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Title: Re: Hardtail Conversion (VV) Post by LANCER on 06/09/20 at 08:23:20 Very nice work. [ch128521] |
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