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Title: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/02/17 at 18:58:46 Well guys , That oversize (4.75 gal.) tank is just made all wrong on the bottom. I'd have to do some "Frame Whittling" to make it fit. I'm not referring to just cutting off the tank nubs . The back-bone forks to soon. and the petcock is to far forward to boot . Back to the drawing board ! ::) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 01/03/17 at 10:49:18 Mike, that sounds downright disappointing. :-/ Sorry you are having issues with your new tank and your framework. :( ================================================= http://https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/31zgeg1AUIL._SY90_.jpg Today my shipment of 3 cheap Chinese "T" fittings finally arrived from the Christmas Container Sargasso Sea Black Hole Entanglement of SLOWNESS and I can start making final progress on my auxiliary tank plumbing on my Savage. All I had to do was cut into the rubber fuel line and put the "T" in and connect to the auxiliary gas tank and valve in the back. Not more than an hours worth of fiddle work even counting making a trip to the gas station for some gas to top it all up. I filled up the main tank and then let it back flush through the new system to see where equilibrium was between the two tanks. Back tank goes completely full when main tank drops down 3-4 inches from a full condition. Use method can be simple, fill both tanks up, turn the main one on and run that one until about half empty then turn the back one on too and then let the "total gas left" equilibrium show visibly in the clear tank on the back. The two tanks join just below the main tank level then go through the large pleated paper fuel filter and then the line drops to go down to the carburetor. When you run both tanks dry, you still got a standard reserve in the main tank. Yes, if I get totally stupid I can make a mess with gas flowing on to the ground. I can do this by asking a full main tank to backfill downhill to the smaller back tank.* Rather than guessing, it would be easier to just run the main tank for about 60-80 miles then turn them both on and just look to see what you got left. Because of the self-balancing equilibrium you always have 2x the gas showing in the back tank, plus about a 15-20 mile reserve amount in the main tank. *If I fitted a 2.6 gallon jug similar to what I use in the Barcalounger it would not overflow as the top of the taller jug would be more equal to the top of the main tank. Total capacity would be right at 5 gallons. It would all be "top heavy weight" though ..... not really good for mountain handling. ALSO NOTE THE DOUBLE WRAP OF MILK JUG PLASTIC "PROTECTION" AS THE FUEL LINE RUBS UP AGAINST A SHARP EDGED PIECE OF AIR SYSTEM CLAMP. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 01/03/17 at 14:54:19 .... then you run to the back of the bike and go under the saddle bag strap .... |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 01/03/17 at 14:56:36 ..... and when you come out from the saddle bag strap you do this with a cheap plastic shut off valve .... What is neat is there is no high spot in this system that builds up an air lock as the back and forth between the tanks keeps the main line flushed free of any air build up. Trash in the tanks is trapped and held by the large pleated paper fuel filter, which keeps that 'ol debble "dirty carburetor problems" at bay. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/03/17 at 19:15:22 I just made an offer on ebay for a GZ250 tank . They are about a gallon larger. They also look just like a Savage tank from the bottom. ;) Seem weird that Suzuki would put more tank on a 250 than a 650 ??? :-? I'm betting the price of another tank it will work just fine. The 4.75 "Chopper-Tank" I've got might get used on a Harley if I ever swap my 2007 for a 04-06 Carb. model , if the Carb model comes with a peanut tank. I'm "OK" with the injected model for now but would trade it for a Carb of equal value . Anyway , there is always the bottle in the saddle bag trick ! ;D |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Kris01 on 01/03/17 at 19:18:48 Keep us posted on how easy the swap is! |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Kris01 on 01/03/17 at 19:22:09 I just did some checking... |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/03/17 at 19:33:54 I've seen the 2.5 gal tanks made for luggage racks , but my rack is already busy with a trunk. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by badwolf on 01/03/17 at 19:52:25 Mike, The 4.5 gal tank you saw on my bike last summer is off a 04' or 05' Yamaha V Star 650. There is all kinds of room under it, but it is A LOT wider and about 3" longer making you move the seat back and most likley up too. I think Smokin Blue just cut his seat back when he did his wife's bike. But I looked at that and there wasn't enough room for me. A tight seat fit might be fine for a small person, or short rides, but,,,,, you and I don't know what a SHORT RIDE is. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Kenny G on 01/03/17 at 20:02:42 Feller, I often thought that if I ever take a long trip again I would go for an axillary tank mounted behind the drivers seat and set it up so it would be a snap to take it off after returning home. I like the idea of a separate tank like you are showing rather than a huge main tank the may be uncomfortable for riding 8 hours at a time. Kenny G :-/ |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/03/17 at 20:12:31 , you and I don't know what a SHORT RIDE is. I'm glad you joined in . I'll look at the yahama tank , 4.5 gal is good ! ;) I remember your looking good ! I haven't bought the Suzuki tank yet , just made a low ball offer on it. ;) Yea ! How many miles did you roll up last year ? ::) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by badwolf on 01/03/17 at 20:37:28 Mike, I totaled up just over 22k last year. But I must admit a couple thousand was on my old PC800. A long weekend trip to Richmond and back ALL INTERSTATE was just more suited to that than the Thumper. On the bright side of that trip was meeting a bunch of family at my aunt's 99th birthday party. I had to show my cousin on his trike to my other cousin's house, and he said he couldn't follow a Honda, I said "That's OK Bob, I'll drive slow!" He bought that Harley new in 11', put the trike kit on it in 13', when I saw him in Sept. he had 93k on it!! Now that he is retired he just won't stay home! He's been to the 4 corners of the country, the 4 corners, and summer of 15' he went from Buffalo to Alaska and back! And hates Interstates, just wants to ride on 2 lane roads whenever he can. Now I like 2 lanes, BUT, sometimes I want to get there quick. I am mulling the Pikes Peak Hillclimb this year. 26 or 27 hundred miles each way in May needs a little advance planning. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/03/17 at 21:05:02 I'd like to do the Pikes-Peak thing too ! Seem to me that a long ride is safer with company , that's a big part of "why" I ain't done it yet. You could make one of your stops at my place in Tn. , you can have the spare room . From North Fl. I think its about 600 miles to my place in Southern Middle Tn. If I can swing it I'd like to ride with ya . I think my "Long-Legged Sportster" will keep up just fine , but I don't care much for the wind after 75 or so. Fact is ... Versey is thinking of ridding in that area this summer. Maybe we could meet-up some where ? I think Lancer's place is about 600 miles from my place , he might let us camp in his yard for a night if we ask right nice ? ::) Wow , maybe we should post this in the "Ride Planing" thread ? |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/04/17 at 08:28:47 Well , the low-ball offer worked ! ::) Sometimes it does ... :) So $32.59 + SH. for an extra .6 gal (30 miles on my bike and habits) , and the dash moves up to the triple tree . 8-) O-yea : I get to paint to suit myself. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by badwolf on 01/04/17 at 08:38:06 Should look good and give you a solid 150 miles. Mount some LEDs up high where you can see them for the blinkers. Having them down on the tank was just a BAD idea. The rattle can clear coat melts when gas hits it, you'll need automotive clear coat. And maybe a dragon sticker on the side. Or maybe a dragon slayer. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/04/17 at 10:04:42 I did my first Savage with Rattle can Polyurethane back when it had a "Tint" to it. Yea , nice thick coats ... Three years later it started to peel . :-[ I did my Harley tank with the newer stuff a year ago , no tinting this time , thin coats , three + hours between coats , and its still looks good (so far) . ::) I refinished some furniture in my kitchen one winter. A few specks of Polyurethane got on the floor. A few weeks later when I noticed it , I tried getting it up ... :( ... It didn't come up ... :( ... nothing would touch it ! :-[ |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by badwolf on 01/04/17 at 11:42:37 Mike. Pikes Peak is just wishful thinking for the next couple months as events are posted for this year(You know I'm a roller derby fan.) http://www.ppihc.com/updates/2016/09/06/the-broadmoor-pikes-peak-international-hill-climb-announces-race-dates-through-2022/ Colorado Springs——–The Broadmoor Pikes Peak International Hill Climb, brought to you by Gran Turismo, will stage its 95th running on Sunday, June 25, 2017. But I do have that date circled on the calendar! |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by badwolf on 01/04/17 at 12:35:32 Mike, Check out this 9 min vid of last year's winner... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZbtDdf8Syo Makes the dragon look pretty mellow! See all the snow along one side of the road? It's the end of June and still snow! And most of the other side of the road there's NOTHING BUT AIR!! |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/04/17 at 20:23:08 That thing sounded really wound-up . All that "AIR" on the sides along with to much speed is about enough to have me choosing another place to ride ! ::) You ever rode in the Black-Hills area ? |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by badwolf on 01/04/17 at 20:41:44 Mike, Not yet! I think if we go on any more we should move to the Savage Events thread. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/04/17 at 21:05:38 Yep , I think so too. :) I'm going to start hunting Decals for the new tank ... it should be here with-in a week . ;) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 01/05/17 at 12:43:39 Put my Savage totally back together and changed the oil for springtime. Done, complete. Total Savage gas capacity is now 3.5 gallons, 4.5 gallons if I still carry the gallon jug of spare gas in the saddle bag. If I run out of gas now, it is my own fault. ======================================= Now, the Savage comes off the bike jack. Barcalounger goes on the bike rack. I Have already fitted one of the key Barcalounger new features one which is claimed to be able to double your COMFORTABLE daily ride distance. I like it because the thought of another set of Warfarin blisters along the seam of my pants REALLY does not fill me with glee. 7.5 gallons of gas capacity and an adjustable air cushioned seat that does increase my glee level, considerably. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/05/17 at 21:53:49 I'm thinking of 1/2 gal in each saddle bag for the desperate refill ! ::) If there was a flat tank on the luggage rack that I could still have a trunk back there ... :-? A person could put a tank inside of the bike trunk and run the hose like you did. It would look like a trunk and might hold 2 or 3 gals. OldFeller , I've got an extra "trunk" you could have if your interested in trying it. I'm measure it tomorrow but I think its about 16-18" wide and probely 10 or 12" Dia. with quick disconnect buckles . :) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/05/17 at 22:21:12 I found some decals for the new tank already , they are on the way now . :) Light Gray color , No it don't say Harley ... It says " M & M Ranch " |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/05/17 at 22:32:27 get it on ebay of course : ;D |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/17/17 at 16:05:39 Kenny wrote : I often thought that if I ever take a long trip again I would go for an axillary tank mounted behind the drivers seat and set it up so it would be a snap to take it off after returning home. . I'm thinking this way more and more too ! :-/ The 250 Suzuki tank would require : Nothing being mounted under the tank . The tunnel is barely wide enough for the frame. :P |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by LANCER on 01/17/17 at 16:42:53 57455745485B5459521A0 wrote:
Mike, what is the link to the store for these graphics ? |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Kenny G on 01/17/17 at 16:56:46 MM, So you are saying the 250 tank is not worthwhile? Even to get the speedometer up where one can see it? Would the gizmo that lifts the valve to start the engine have to be relocated to use the 250 tank? At one time someone made an auxiliary tank that fit in a Harley saddle bag and as I recall it worked pretty good. Depending where I am riding a break every couple of hours is nice, if there is a gas station available. It is a pain waiting on AAA truck coming with a gallon of gas. Kenny G |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Kris01 on 01/17/17 at 18:03:18 66746674796A6568632B0 wrote:
So it's not quite a "bolt it on and go ride" situation? |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/17/17 at 21:01:59 Lancer , I hope this will get ya where ya want to go ?? If it don't I'll try to do better next time ... ::) http://www.ebay.com/itm/222067759133?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT ------------------------------------- I'll have another look before giving up . but ... Defiantly the "tank contact pads are too wide , and it looks like the coil is going to have to move . Standard tank tunnel is over 4" and the 250 tunnel is about 2.5" . The rear tank mount is too wide but that should be an easy fix and the petcock will be close if not perfect . I needed to ride when the weather turn warm this week and put it back together without turning on the "CUT-SAW" ... :) Next week is cooling off again so ??? |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Kenny G on 01/17/17 at 21:34:55 MM, I have this friend at The Chop Shop in Keller, TX that says it would be easier to modify the backbone of the frame to fit a different tank than to modify a tank to fit the frame. A J has extensive sheet metal equipment and he can actually make a tank from scratch and he builds mono shock frames so I am starting to think that he knows what he is talking about. Kenny G |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by piedmontbuckeye on 01/20/17 at 10:23:14 All I know, is that the factory tank is too small. It seems like I am having to fill it all the time! |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by SALB on 01/20/17 at 10:56:50 607975747D7F7E647265737B756975100 wrote:
It's a perfect compliment to the factory seat. Which one will make you stop first. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Kris01 on 01/20/17 at 17:21:55 28313D3C3537362C3A2D3B333D213D580 wrote:
I have that problem too. It comes from riding! ;D |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/20/17 at 22:13:34 Well , The front of the 250 tank is mounted (factory style) welded in a new post , the tank post had to move forward and down , the coil bracket needs welding back on to hold the coil low as possible and centered in that frame hole above the motor. I don't know where the blinker control is going , or that other thing I found near there ? The compression re-lease is --- gone --- ::). Then the rear of the tank needs to come up off the frame just a little . The seat may be an inch too long now ?? The petcock is the same :) I might get to fiddle on it some more tomorrow afternoon ? I'll get pictures next time. Today , I didn't have my phone with me . |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Kris01 on 01/21/17 at 09:05:12 I was hoping you found a Plug 'n Play tank. I'd love to have a larger tank that I could just bolt on. I don't have the expertise to cut and weld and make it all fit. :( |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by old.indian on 01/21/17 at 09:30:54 09302B317273420 wrote:
Me too... :( :( |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/21/17 at 13:56:06 Sorry guys ::) I'm going for it . There is two "goods :P ". An extra 30 miles and the speedometer goes tridional :) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Kenny G on 01/21/17 at 14:04:01 MM, I am anxious to see some pictures. Kenny G :-/ |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/22/17 at 07:25:20 I hope to get back to the shop after Church this morning , but If not , then tomorrow I'm going to "NEED" to get back to the shop ! ::) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/22/17 at 08:29:17 426C674A7B687A61090 wrote:
Really cool answer. Buy a tank, have them hack the backbone out.. Or, modify what you have.. Frikken smarttt.. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/23/17 at 18:43:27 Guys I got the rear tank mount made today . :) yeee-Haaa |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/23/17 at 18:47:22 Its looking more possible now The lines straightened a little smother after I finished the rear mount , |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/23/17 at 18:57:41 The fuel petcock need some "Trimming" ;) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/23/17 at 19:12:48 The coil fit nicely ;) I'll try to get a better picture So far the Starter Helper is the only thing that "Just-Had-to-Go" . |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Kenny G on 01/23/17 at 20:47:07 MM, What have you decided to do about the speedometer? I offered to buy one of these tanks from a guy on here when he finished installing a Sportster tank on his bobber. I am looking forward to a bigger tank. You are doing all the thinking to make this work so I thank you. Kenny G |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/23/17 at 22:25:09 Kenny I got a Speedometer off Ebay . I would have just used the GPS for my speed but : The neutral light The bright indicator The turn indicator so I got one of the after market ones with a neat little column of three lights , green , blue , orange . The speedometer is in metric but a quick multiply by (.6) is so easy .... 25 k = 15 50 k = 30 100 k = 60 will be second nature in a week ! Versey put me on to a cable ... that was the hard part ! :) I hope to be sanding and putting bondo in the imperfections tomorrow evening ? The biggest ding is about like a BB but not as deep. 8-) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Blade on 01/23/17 at 23:03:17 That's good enough for me, I pulled the trigger and bought one. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Kenny G on 01/23/17 at 23:08:32 MM, I will have to get a hold of Verslagen and get a speedometer cable. I want to arrange to get a cam chain adjuster modified so I need to contact him any way. Kenny G |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/24/17 at 08:05:01 Kenny now Versey didn't sell me a cable , he suggested witch one to get. I'll try to find the link. :) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by ohiomoto on 01/24/17 at 08:30:21 I grabbed the one listed in partzilla mentioned in this thread. It's a little long but I just snaked it around a bit and it works fine. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1408385970/1#1 I picked up a speedo from Dime City: http://www.dimecitycycles.com/2-5-inch-chrome-mini-speedometer-with-black-face-and-led-indicator-lights.html |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/24/17 at 09:58:37 This is the cable I got to do the speedometer with ... haven't put it on yet but is long (if not a little too long) enough . New Genuine Suzuki Tachometer Cable 72-77 GT250, GT750 Lemans Hustler Tach #V28 I'll mount it soon and find-out more . |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by ohiomoto on 01/24/17 at 12:15:49 Sounds like the same one I have. http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/suzuki/SP-34940-18131.html |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/24/17 at 16:01:14 I put the speedometer on and hooked up the cable ... it could be 4" shorter , but it will work just fine. I mounted the speedometer on the bottom side of the handlebar riser by drilling and tapping under the handlebars all the way through. Then putting a bolt from the bottom. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/24/17 at 16:09:49 Here is the coil mounted on the new metal piece . Its in the frame hole. There is the old tank nub and the new tank rubber . I took a bike ride to Lowes today and found some 18/7-conductor wire to extend the dash wires with . Seven conductors in a neat casing , looks like factory equipment ;) , $0.60 a foot . I wore chaps and took the long way home (60 mile joy ride). :) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/24/17 at 16:14:50 And on the other side is where the blinker control and that other thing landed. What is that other thing anyway ? There is the old tank nub and the new tank mount w/rubbers ::) you'll notice there is no room for the compression release ... |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Kenny G on 01/24/17 at 17:46:48 MM, If there is a picture of the speedometer I cannot see it. Did the gas cap from the S40 tank fit the new tank? Kenny G |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Kris01 on 01/24/17 at 18:04:42 637163717C6F606D662E0 wrote:
Haha! Ride when you can! |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/24/17 at 19:15:29 Gas cap came with the tank but no key ... so now it opens with any key ;) I've got the speedometer to look forward to tomorrow , seems somebody took a bike ride today instead of hurrying back to the shop ! ::) The Savage cap is too small dia. , but a new lock set for the GZ250 are only $40.oo on ebay . |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Dave on 01/24/17 at 19:57:36 445644565B48474A41090 wrote:
I believe that is the side stand relay. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/24/17 at 21:14:48 Thanks Dave :) If it is , I might just loose it sometime ;) Last spring in TX. my decompression thing quit working for a while , well I've still got the factory engine and it still started just fine. Fact is I liked it better without all that noise of getting the engine moving before the first compression stroke. I suspected that other box being the timer for the starting system , but I'm only guessing ??? Does it even have a timer ?? |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by verslagen1 on 01/24/17 at 22:05:48 yep, side stand relay. I don't know why it needs a relay, my foot kicks it up and down. the decomp controller is over the carb. You can pull that off, just jump the center wire nearest the hook to the bottom right connector so it'll start when you push the button. and make yourself a decomp lever in case it ever gets stuck. beast always gets stuck. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/25/17 at 07:55:31 Versey 8-) and make yourself a decomp lever in case it ever gets stuck. beast always gets stuck. :o That is a good idea ! I'll check on a hand operated lever device . If -- I can leave the top chrome things on and have a back-up compression plan too I'll do it. Versey , if I find I can do without it just fine , then BEAST'EY more-than-wellcome to my take-off . I can see where Beast needs a compression release ! |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by old_rider on 01/25/17 at 13:06:03 6F767A7B7270716B7D6A7C747A667A1F0 wrote:
Sounds like something I might attempt in the future. Chop the backbone, raise it to clear a new 5-6 gal tank. Get ahold of frank at frank's forks, and put one big daddy sissy bar for a single old_rider :) Chopper this thing out ! Kinda like this fella off of facebook... |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/25/17 at 14:22:45 Yea , Old Rider you need one of them ! ;D Actually , put some mud flaps and a front brake on that thing and I'd like to take a spin on it ! 8-) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 01/27/17 at 11:02:58 Since my Savage is done, I started fiddling with the Barcalounger some. Barcalounger = Suzuki VS 800 and the tricks shown here also apply to most of the Intruder line, including the 1400s. First things first, it HAS to look good and be functional. The Savage is an old Granny bike and can look like what it is. I wanted the Barcalounger to be prettier, to be actually worth washing and polishing on occasion. So the mount points are polished aluminum, made from aluminum 1" round stock and plated hex stock. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 01/27/17 at 11:11:01 The bag mount is polished aluminum, mounted with stainless steel fasteners and plated washers. I am debating painting the inside surface of the bags gloss black, to match the rest of the bike. I think some "wood protection" is also in order here ..... That would carry on the black w/silver accents used elsewhere on the bike. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 01/27/17 at 11:16:47 Here is a close up of the inside, viewing the seating of the flat washers as they mate the beveled machine screws on a "rim mount" type set up. Practically flush, but very strong and able to clamp up a large area surface. Remember, the wood is glued to the hard bag's inner surface, so it makes up a more rigorous stress carrying assembly. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/27/17 at 15:48:23 Yep, wood preservative , then some good enamel. I'm glad you got yourself a Second bike [ch128512] |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 01/27/17 at 17:50:37 Yeah, Wood Preservative -- that's the first coat of black enamel that kinda sorta soaks completely down into the dry wood and looks all streaky before you even get to the other side. The next coat stays a lot thicker ... but you have to let the first two coats dry good first and then lightly sand it with fine sandpaper to take off the raised whiskers from the first coat. Or as the old shop teacher used to say -- you gotta fill and block the pores in the wood so the final coat can make a even surface as it sets up. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 01/29/17 at 12:55:03 Well, it don't look too bad at all ...... the black paint actually matched up to the plastic pretty well. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 01/29/17 at 20:26:35 Hay ! That looks perty good ! Will be glad to see it in person some day ! ;) ----------------------------- I put the first coat of black on my new tank today too. Mostly to see where the "imperfections" are ... so most of it will be sanded off before I get done. There are so many little, tiny imperfections , I think I put a few layers of sanding primer on next . :P |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/02/17 at 07:07:28 Well , All smoothed out and ready for ??? : a touch of metal flake and decals ... or just decals ?? I got plenty of paint so I'll try a "touch of metal flake . ;) Light entering through the screen gives the reflection a "screen" look (speckled) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/02/17 at 07:14:35 I found a picture of the Speedometer while I was looking for tank picture . I mounted it under the handlebar mount . pulled the handlebar off , drilled and taped a hole all the way through , mounted the speedometer from the bottom on the tank side. I like having the "Cubby-Hole" behind the windshield to carry stuff , two 2Lt bottles , plus a loave of bread will fit in there at the same time ! ;) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/02/17 at 07:24:14 here is a before picture of the tank . You notice it has factory pin stripe on it ... I left a touch of the stripe under the paint so I can put the new pin-stripe in the same place . |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/02/17 at 09:52:21 What's the tank off of and how old izzit? I like that.. I missed how big it is, too.. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/02/17 at 14:56:57 Jog Its a GZ250 / 3.5 gal . The tunnel is ... almost to narrow (2.5") , so the compression release had to go/change , coil had to move to the hole in the frame , the front tank mounting studs had to go forward (2") and down (2"). Then the rear mount had to narrow down and get an inch taller. But the fuel petcock is the same. The easy part ... you get to paint it any-way-you-want ! ;) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/02/17 at 20:50:54 Don't know if ya can see the metal flake ? I put a light flake and the first coat of clear today .... Next start with the decals ! |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Kris01 on 02/03/17 at 17:29:09 That's nice. What's the color called? |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/03/17 at 19:13:54 Black , the metal flake is silverish and makes it look lighter in pictures than it really is . I put some decals on today . Plus 6 coats of clear high gloss Polyurethane . Same thing on both sides . |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Kenny G on 02/03/17 at 19:15:26 Cool |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Kris01 on 02/03/17 at 19:23:33 Black! Good answer! ;D It looks a little metallic in the pics. I guess that's the metal flake. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/03/17 at 19:58:08 Purty |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/06/17 at 15:28:00 Here are my hard bags mounted, 3/8" off the shocks as per the list's group mind, giving enough room to put my tent and my chair over the aluminum rails inboard of the bags. Since this is my long distance Barcalounger, I will NOT be dragging the bags on the pavement in the mountains ..... I have a Savage for that sort of action. 8-) Really, I won't do that on purpose, ever ....... This is my laid back purty long distance bike. LED turn signals are "extra bright" and are "high power draw" enough to operate the flasher system and are big and bright enough to be noticeable in the daylight. Still seems a little bit wimpy to me, but I am biased that way, I guess. Next steps are to get it insured and inspected, then start playing around with the fuel system. Since what I am doing with fuel is a one-off system I would want it to be easily removable for yearly inspection purposes. People who hard mount commercial aluminum keg based fuel systems still get some occasional grief come inspection time, so I think I don't want that hassle "built into" my bike in any non-removable way. I think I want my jugs to just pop out of the bags after cutting off the cut-off valve in the fuel lines and pulling the fuel line off the cut-off valve's barb. This way I can run one adder jug or two adder jugs, depending on if I need more storage or would rather have an extra 2.6 gallons of gas per jug. This gives me the ready choice of 3.2 gallons in the tank, or 5.8 gallons by adding one jug, or a whopping 8.4 gallons of gas capacity when adding two jugs. I figure 8.6 gallons total capacity counting the main tank's 0.2 gal reserve and the volume of gas sitting in the new fuel filter, lines, existing fuel pump and cut-off valves. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/06/17 at 21:15:09 Wow ! 8.6 gal. we get out in the middle of nowhere --- your my best buddy ! ;) 425 mile range ... ::) I've got a couple of those "Barrels" on my ebay watch list. How important do ya recond those baffles are ? :-? |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/07/17 at 01:23:47 I expect the fuel sloshes in the aluminum containers, making some slap/ringing noises. My slosh will be gas on plastic and it will be inside the saddle bags, where it will be muted to a large degree. Part of what I envision is a small diameter nylon tube with a needle valve (yup, basketball football needle valve) penetrating the top of the carry handle of the gas jug (press fit to the tiny hole). This gives me a way to vent fumes out of the saddle bags down to the pavement, along with whatever tiny bits of liquid make the same journey. It also allows the jugs to breathe instead of getting suction locked. I was considering venting the fumes into the air box, but in case of a "operator error" type flow control mistake I'd rather the gas flow be out where I can see it rather than quietly filling up the air box. ::) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Dave on 02/07/17 at 04:29:55 I have used these to convert my crappy CA/EPA compliant ventless fuel cans. Put these in, and the fuel flows out like it should. https://www.google.com/search?q=vent+for+gas+can&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=vent+for+gas+can&tbm=shop&spd=7266595923179930295 Or you could put a vent tube on the jugs and run the tube out the bottom of the saddlebag to vent fumes and provide the needed air as the fuel level drops.......you could put the vent tube and supply tube in the cap, and it would not violate the integrity of the jug. If you had spare caps you could remove the jug when you wanted to remove the jug from the bike. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/08/17 at 13:00:04 I have 3 caps, one virgin and two drilled for a fuel line. Tested my fuel pump and it will transfer gas under pressure up a clear line all the way to my garage door opener track overhead before I hurriedly cut the thing off. Bottom of the bag is on the same level as the entry and exit ports of the fuel pump, so the only heavy lifting the fuel pump has to do is provide some suction for the last inch or so in the jugs. Max lift required is 1-2 inches, well within the rated air suction capacity of the fuel pump. Priming the system (filling up the lines) is easy as the bottom of the gas tank is even with the top of the jugs. I can back flush from the gas tank into the jugs to force clear all air bubbles from the system. Standard drill for use will be turn on both jugs and fill up the main tank while it is also running into the jugs clearing out all air bubbles. Once you know the lines are flushed, cut off the main tank, fill it completely and put the cap back on. Now fill up the bag jugs and cap them. The bag cut-off taps remain on as this is the gas you will be pulling from first. Now run until you get a sputter choke event when a jug goes empty. Then turn on the main tank and let it backflow into the jugs, clearing out all the air bubbles. Then go looking for some gas, having 100+ miles of remaining range to do so. When you arrive, you should still be air line void free, so just fill 'er on up. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/08/17 at 21:30:58 Sounds like a working plan old buddy ! I hope I'm free for the first time ya take it out for Field-Trials ! ;) Its kinda a good sort-of FREEDOM not having to plan every ride around a fuel stop ever 80-100 miles ! The best I've got so far is the 4.5 gal./50mpg Sportster . So your way ahead of me ! |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/09/17 at 12:58:13 Put insurance on the Barcalounger today, plan to put tags on it this upcoming Monday, then get it inspected prior to doing the rest of the fuel line / bag jugs installation work. As far as a break in trip, I will take several within the state to visit family, etc to shake out the various cobwebs. Right now, considering I have to continue to work to get any kind of affordable insurance my trips this year are kinda limited by the work/vacation thing. Kickstand Lodge June 13-18 Dave, Oldfeller, MM, Stewmills, RaleighGuy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZGNOB5m5Ro&t=166s http://kickstandlodge.com/rates.html From here it is a short hop up to the Dragon, and to all the really neat surrounding roads we love to ride. For East Coast beginners, this is one of the closest (and the BEST) Southeastern trip possible. Some have argued the area is the BEST BIKING IN AMERICA and I might have to agree with them. I think I'll take the Savage on a trailer to this one. MM's farm Sept 8, 9 & 10 MM, Oldfeller, Dave, Lancer This one I will ride the Barcalounger and camp out one night on the way. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/09/17 at 18:50:57 OldFeller , you may be set-up for a trip to Alaska , as in driving through Canada ! 8-) I took a ride with the new to me tank today , did 12 Km going to town and back . I put the GPS on so I could compare the new speedometer to GPS speed. It works just like I thought it would : 25 km = 15 mph 50 km = 30 mph 75 km = 45 mph 90 km = 55 mph ish 100 km = 60 mph and so on , Speedometer goes to 160 km |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Kenny G on 02/09/17 at 20:58:29 MM, Do you have a loop in the cable to use up the extra 4" of cable? Kenny G |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Blade on 02/10/17 at 05:32:21 My GZ 250 tank arrived ( no key) and I tried the cap off my VL800 (Volusia) tank- it fits perfectly, so there is an option. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Ruttly on 02/10/17 at 05:48:16 MM , that tank looks great , good job ! |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/10/17 at 06:43:31 The tac.cable worked just fine for a speedometer cable. My cap has only one of the "keepers" now. It was pot-metal and broken when I got it. I guess the previous owner pried the top off . Blade , If you can pick the lock just once , then you can drill the tumblers out from the bottom and then any key will open it from the top. That is what I did --- but --- one of those keeper tabs was already broke. I might have to buy another cap or make a new "keeper tab" ??? Its kinda works with only one tab now . |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/10/17 at 19:29:33 Well, got the Barcalounger all insured and taxed and tagged. Found my first year's inspection sticker came with the new plate (no inspection required for the first year), so I was good to proceed with running the auxiliary fuel lines. So I made some progress, enough progress to finish it up this weekend and take for a run in jaunt or two, weather permitting. Need to test out the balance of the thing when fully loaded up with gas, compared to a Savage it will weigh 60 pounds or so more with the aux tanks all filled up. I also need to see if the bags sag any under the load during garage storage. I found it un-amusing that the license guys wanted 15% of the value of the bike in fees and plate charges, that seemed a bit much to me. It is a good thing they take a charge card now-a-days ..... |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/10/17 at 21:02:11 OldFeller , I hope those big charges are only a one time thing , you might have to move to Tn. ;D I still owe ya dinner next time we go somewheres , if it makes ya feel a little better about all those bucks going out so easy . ::) Hay , I saved myself some $$$ (35.oo of them) today I re-built my broken gas cap this morning . It opens with any key now so I don't have to ADD more weight to my key ring . ;) The metal tab was gone and the plastic was broke , Thats Marine JB Weld ... I hope it holds ... if not there will be an aluminum plate (circle) or a steel washer with solder to fill in the broken plastic on it by time ya see it in person :) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/12/17 at 15:35:18 Ok, I finished installing all the plumbing and took the bike out for the first spin in the new configuration. Gas station first, filled the steel main tank to the top and yes indeedy it would back flush all the way to the jugs with no issues. Put in a half a jug of gas into each side and watched them nasty air bubbles back flush out of the system just as pretty as you could please. Then cut the taps all off and filled up all the jugs/tank completely and then I turned on just one jug and pulled out and rode off onto the new interstate bypass for some steady high speed testing to see if I was going to be getting enough gas at speed (no stumbling or surging) off of just one jug. Ran like a Swiss watch ..... quiet and smooth. Nary a stumble or hiccup. The system will run fine off of one jug just dandy. This can be from either jug as selected independently (the cut offs are even with my wallet pockets and are easy to find and manipulate while riding). The system will run off of both jugs at the same time just fine, pulling half the gas flow from each jug while permitting the two jugs to settle out into a common equilibrium point as gravity naturally wishes them to do. And yes, when a jug empties out and finally sucks big air with no gasoline to it and the engine finally does stumble then that is your signal to flip on the main tank which allows about a gallon and a half of gas to flow back down into each jug, thoroughly purging all the various little air pockets as it goes along, naturally. Now you have 150+ miles more range to go find you some gas. Just fill up the jugs and tank when you get there, no need to purge anything as it is already cleaned out. Neat thing is the fuel pump really doesn't seem to care where the gas came from nor does it care about pumping entrapped air bubbles, it just pumps the entrapped air right along with the gas into the float bowl, where gravity separation occurs naturally. Entrapped air goes up and out the bowl vent tubes, gasoline goes down into the float bowl until the float level rises up enough to shut off the flow. There is more than enough fuel pump power to pump lots of "bubbled up gasoline" --- far more gas volume can be moved than is needed to power the engine in any case. I am going to simply ignore purging any more fuel lines and see if this system really works out to be as trouble free as I suspect that it might indeed be. There are no slosh sounds from the saddlebags. No noise at all, actually. Bike's balance left to right is even and normal, the big bags only cause me mild trouble when swinging a toe over the width of the bags when mounting. I have to start the leg lift a lot earlier and hold it a lot longer as I got some real width to deal with now. I am going to practice putting left foot on left footpeg, leaning forward and swinging right leg out and up from that relatively elevated mounting position. ======================================= The big windshield isn't adjusted worth a crap and it was simply installed too low by the stealership. Work on the windshield starts tomorrow with getting it raised up some and get it angled some more to cut down on side and back turbulence. Power delivery is funny, it doesn't feel like torque based power at all as each cylinder is an overbore condition 83mm by a 74.4mm stroke --- so it acts more like a performance engine at heart. This means each gear gets a quick BRRRR and you are knocking along about a hundred mph just about as quick as you can click through the gears. There is a rev limiter on the bike, so you can get some clean top RPM cut-off sensations in each gear and you can easily know when it is time to shift should you be mucking about some in the lower gears. I haven't found any kind of lugging action yet, this may be a benefit function of running two 400cc cylinders running off of separate offset "anti-vibration tuned" crank pins. So, so far so good --- the Barcalounger project is working out as planned. Remaining issues are WINDSHIELD ADJUSTMENT and SEAT TUNING. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/12/17 at 17:20:10 I hope you will soon be able to give us a full photo show, |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/12/17 at 21:02:00 OldFeller , you are going to make your Savage Jealous. ;D Looking forward to seeing it in person soon ! :) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/13/17 at 07:50:51 OK, Justin -- snapshots Even with the Air Hawk seat I can still flatfoot the pavement at a stop sign. Bags are set back far enough that I never touch them with butt or legs while riding. This side view also clearly shows that if the main steel gas tank is over half full it can back flush easily all the way back to the jugs cleaning any and all air out of the system. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/13/17 at 07:52:43 The generous windshield that is mounted too low .... |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/13/17 at 07:53:50 This shows the on-off taps just outboard of my wallet pockets --- easy to find while riding. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/13/17 at 08:00:32 OK, this is a reveal shot of the loaded gas jugs showing connections, etc. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/13/17 at 08:53:56 1A081A08051619141F570 wrote:
That is not very likely ...... My fully erect Suzuki Savage is obviously a rather large MALE motorcycle. My large twin jugged slim waisted Suzuki Intruder is obviously a very pretty and very well equipped female motorcycle. Why would my Savage be jealous of his girl friend? He is beginning to understand some things about dealing with females though, as she has taken over his trickle charger and is asking him questions about his cell phone mount. He's taken, he belongs to her .... but he just doesn't realize it yet. Problem is that apart from the Dragon area he'll never keep up with her in the mating rituals. She's too quick and her long legs and rather generous fuel capacity make sure he'll never ever be able to catch her (unless she simply wants him to). Still no little litter of mini-bikes, but there is lots of time yet this winter. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/13/17 at 14:28:33 I found one of the reasons I was able to buy the bike so cheaply -- it was showing all the signs of a "sometimes no charging voltage" type problem. You'll like this, I dug into the wiring harness "big rubber tube" area under the seat looking for the connector to the voltage regulator rectifier -- and it wasn't there. The Stealership mechanic had moved it to the area below where it should have been according to the shop manual, and it was tucked in tightly between several other components to keep it lightly touching the mating plug electrical halves together in a light edge contact mode. But but the male and female plug halves were NOT even completely seated together, much less having the plug halves 100% seated and firmly snapped/locked together. It had to be intentional, too much attention was spent in setting it up just so ..... the sporadic issue would seem to spontaneously appear due to the halves separating due to vibration, starting to show "no charging" symptoms months and months after the servicing was long done. A quick spritz of contact cleaner and working a little bit of fine wet or dry paper into the female connector halves to clean up the arc blackening, a little clean up on the tips of the male connectors, then some more contact cleaner to wash away any residues, then pushing it firmly together 100% all the way until the connectors firmly clicked together and Vola !!! ---- full charger function was restored at 13.34 to 13.54 volts ongoing, nice and steady at all RPMs. Stealerships, you jest gotta love 'em. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Kris01 on 02/13/17 at 17:42:38 That's the EXACT reason why we caution newbies to NOT go to their local dealership for service work! Good job Oldfeller! |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/13/17 at 21:21:56 Sounds like you got your self a nice young Lady there ! She kinda looks all dressed up and ready to go to the |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/14/17 at 10:52:09 MM, can you imagine the mess I'd make if I went a dragging those big bags around the turns ???? Plus, she'd be a real handful up in the mountains, to be sure. http://https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41TbnzRDQPL._SY90_.jpg Bought this for a voltage output gauge and a set of cell phone charging ports, this way I can see if my charging voltage gets flaky on me while riding. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/14/17 at 11:31:07 I remember ToyMaker went from a Savage to a 800cc class Kawasaki and rode it on a Dragon trip once. Was it Parson's curve or Swift Corner that he got "NIPPED" and forced to donate a part to the Dragon's Tree ? That would be mile 4.0 or 4.3 on the map. Your might be right about leaving the big-boys+girls home when its time for a Dragon run. I'm not so com-fey slinging the Sportster through those short twistiest either. I think I'm beginning to CHOMP at the bit a little !! :P |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Dave on 02/14/17 at 11:42:52 At a moderate pace the ST1100 did fine on the Dragon - but when pushed hard it really scrubbed a lot of rubber off the tires. (But it sure was a fun bike on the Cherohala Skyway). The Savage and Ninja 250 do fine when hustled through the Dragon. :) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/14/17 at 11:50:05 MM, you got March April and most of May yet to go. All our bikes are done, what ARE we going to do until the ride dates arrive in late May ??? The Robbinsville free camping spot by the lake just up from Simple Life is still there as a halfway point to your house. Republicans are still thrashing about with no fully jelled replacement plan yet and Obamacare has flat gotten ASTRONOMICAL in price now (unless you are dirt poor, in which case it is just about free). As soon as the mandate to force you to have medical insurance goes away medical insurance will jump in price yet again. So, I gotta keep on working, but that doesn't say I can't use my vacation totally up each year. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/14/17 at 11:59:25 I can't think of any large areas left to explore since we went into Georgia last spring. Campgrounds that are worth having have boiled down to Kickstand and Blue Ridge. What is left to investigate? Yes Dave, I fondly remember that cluster group of crotch rockets that blew past us on the Cherohala Skyway and that they acted so surprised when you jest didn't stay blown away at all ..... I remember the amazed looks on their faces when I pulled into the overlook area where all you guys had all stopped together. Toymaker rode the Kawachunky to the Dragon more than once and donated more than once and his last donation was somewhat sizable in scope (which caused the wifey foot to come down as we never never saw him again). My Barcalounger isn't super chunky, but she isn't exactly small either. http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/IMG_20170213_102037973.jpg |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/14/17 at 12:44:00 I've got the last week of March still open ? :) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/14/17 at 13:04:14 So we are talking March 25, 26, 27 to try to do a little something. But what? We are going to Kickstand for real later on in the year and Dave does not care for rough camping, the lack of nightly showers, no food, etc. If we stayed at the lake free-site up from of Robbinsville, you and I could go and "borrow" an occasional shower from the up the hill Dragon Lodge shower station and eat at Robbinsville. We could have us a little excursion and prove out the free camping areas. We could test our our "modified" bikes out in the only real way possible that doesn't involve putting a many-person bigger trip at risk. ::) And I could learn if the Barcalounger really can provide enough "body comfort" for an old warfrin rat like me. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/14/17 at 13:44:41 Yea buddy , the 25 th. through the 31 st. I was thinking just two nights at the Dragon campground . That would be a whole day in the area , and two traveling days. If the Weather is Good I'd like to find Lancer's Curvy road and take a picture from the top. I'm not to good with going down the back side of it again though ! ;D You remember where the map was that Lancer saw it on ? If the weather is not to good we can call it off at the last minute ... ;) April 8th. is my first ride on the calendar so far , but there are always day rides till then. :) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/14/17 at 13:53:49 Lancer spotted it on the big topographical map at Blue Ridge Campground lounge as a tiny black line going over a mountain peak. That was in our first few exploratory stays at Blue Ridge. That venerable topographical map got the paint rubbed off the tips of the mountains by many many many little fingers long since then and that little black line detailing simply isn't there any more (we looked, Lancer and I a trip or so back). There is a supersized flat topographical map at Simple Life campground, too, hanging off the outside of the showers building. If we look, I bet we can find it there. Let's see if Lancer remembers what is was near, seems like we hit a little town right after going down the gravel road from the mountain top. That was all done way pre-Dave, so it would all be new places to him. This harkens back to the good old days of going black-lining for a day or so before the newbies showed up at the Dragon Lodge. (We have always tried not to get any newbies hurt if we could avoid it) ===================================== Pure rough arsed adventure camping ideas ..... You know the little forest service road that comes off the Dragon proper a little bit up from the state line? Find a clearing big enough to turn the bikes around and rough camp there. Pure bad boy camping .... and a little bit scary to think of at that ..... that fairy ring on the other side of the tunnel at the end of the Road to Nowhere. We could have a conversation with the Dragon when he came home that night to sleep, or else mebbe jest have a little snack together with the bears .... :-/ Remember that remote observation deck we took the pictures of Jeb on? Sleeping bags under a tarp held up by the railing. We could stay up and watch the Dragon sail by on his way to bed. String some noise maker bells on a string across the walkway as a bear alert. ::) There are a multitude of rough camping fire ring areas in the mowed grass next to the lake on the far side of the Dragon. ;D Jest how adventurous do you feel? "Two nights" could be Monday, March 27th and Tuesday the 28th allowing me to take a leisurely full travel up day on Sunday the 26th. We could stay at the Dragon, or at Kickstand, or stay here for free. Need to check on the opening dates on those pay me places. https://freecampsites.net/#!7369&query=sitedetails http://https://freecampsites.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/2015-05-07-06.58.36-800x600.jpg |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/14/17 at 19:08:00 I found a lot more stuff on the free campsites around Santeetlah lake and a brand new source for information -- MiniVanCamper.tumblr.com Click here to see all the sites on the lake and which are better situated for bikers and which ones have LESS ROAD NOISE. http://minivancamper.tumblr.com/post/67190584526/lake-santeetlah-north-carolina-dispersed-free http://68.media.tumblr.com/c75a8b9d22bf6d623bb3b3483f93dc61/tumblr_inline_mwd511lTPB1rpjlkw.jpg http://68.media.tumblr.com/7c12cde59273b72c7b0cb4c21d7e99e6/tumblr_inline_mwd54itc111rpjlkw.jpg We could camp off to either side, but close to this little edifice ..... Lord knows we have had to walk further than this to hit the head lots of times. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/14/17 at 20:47:16 Wow buddy ! :-? I'm game if you are . Lets try not to get in trouble with the Bears. I've got a motion detector(outside) with an alarm (inside) I like to put next to my head when I'm in a tent . Perhaps , I should get three more of them for all Four side protection. You going to feel safe about sleeping ... or ... are we going to take turns on watch ? How about : Lets go ride by the lake and view what available. Then if it looks safe pitch camp. Funny , but I don't even think twice about sleeping around a bunch of wild Bikers , but the thought of a little Bear makes me iff-ey ! ::) Fact is : I didn't feel safe on the other side of that "Road-to-Nowhere" tunnel , even in broad day-light. I don't think I could sleep there unless there was twenty of us with a fire going . :-? |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/15/17 at 00:13:46 It was a naturally eerie sort of place, wasn't it? A lone chipmunk doing a death-squeal while attacking your front tire on the ride in kinda clued you up about it, didn't it? So no bears and no dragon holes for this trip. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/15/17 at 08:48:19 You know what ... We could make a whole trip out of checking out different camp-sites . I've got 4 or 5 of those military style cots and they sleep really good. Getting up off the ground is not as easy as it used to be . If you don't have one , I could bring an extra for ya. That lake picture has a lot of tent areas on it . You've been doing your homework ! ;) We've been ridding that area for 10 years and still finding more to do ... ::) I just looked at the Santeetlah lake link ... 8-) OK , now I'm really chomping at the bit ! ;D |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Dave on 02/15/17 at 09:12:01 There is a small area along the side of the 28 just south of the Deals Gap Resort....it is on the lake side just as the road starts to flatten out and go along the edge of the water - and I have seen folks camping in that area. It has a short access road about 100 feet long, and I have ridden down it on the bike - but it is a bit to rugged for taking my Pontiac Vibe and my trailer down it. I had considered parking/sleeping there one night when I arrived very late - but I stayed in the parking lot at Deals Gap instead. I believe this area is available on a "first come" basis....you can't reserve it. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/15/17 at 11:26:49 Got some new info, click on it to view it. http://www.usclimatedata.com/climate/robbinsville/north-carolina/united-states/usnc1403 .... might want to reconsider that March date as it is only 37 degrees at night. Got another time span out there MM ?? I guess there is a good reason that the main campgrounds don't open until April something. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/15/17 at 18:42:52 ;) Moderators, if you see something is wrong or is being missed in the shuffle, reach in and fix it -- that's what you got them long fingers for. THESE EVENTS ARE IN PLANNING AND DISCUSSION -- THE CONCRETE HAS NOT SET COMPLETELY YET .... I am still plugging in names as people show interest, this gives us a tool for seeing who is going were plus the folks who are going can start the refinement process on dates and activities. So far we got the following in the rough order of doing them. Adding something is easy, talk it up some, put a date to it and we will see if folks are interested by if they sign up for it. Santeetlah Lake Exploratory Trip Last two weeks of April Oldfeller and MM wanted to go relocate some classic blackline trips and check out some new camping places Youzguyz Twisted Sisters trip Mid to Late April NEED FIRM DATES Youzguyz, Springman, Lancer Lancer Oklahoma trip May 22-27 Lancer, Kenny G, MM, Springman, Verslagen Indian Paintbrush Campground in Ty Denver June NEED FIRM DATES Verslagen, Springman, old.indian, Lancer Kickstand Lodge June 13-18 Dave, Oldfeller, MM, Stewmills, RaleighGuy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZGNOB5m5Ro&t=166s http://kickstandlodge.com/rates.html From here it is a short hop up to the Dragon, and to all the really neat surrounding roads we love to ride. For East Coast beginners, this is one of the closest (and the BEST) Southeastern trip possible. Some have argued the area is the BEST BIKING IN AMERICA and I might have to agree with them. Undefined East Coast July slot July 15-16 This is an empty time slot looking for a neat event to center upon. Several have been proposed, but not much in the way of takers. Will be reviewed again in March in hopes of a really neat idea cropping up. MM's farm Sept 8, 9 & 10 MM, Oldfeller, Dave, Lancer And here is a tool to use in locating some no cost camping when travelling to get to the rides: https://freecampsites.net |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/15/17 at 20:08:25 OldFeller , do you recond anybody else want to go to the Santeetlah lake adventure. I have the last two weeks of April not taken up yet , but I don't have permission yet either ! ;D How about we see what works out good for you and whoever else want to go then I'll ask "permission" . Do you have a cot ? |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/16/17 at 00:39:03 No, I carry an air bed and an inflator I can run off the bike. Moving to the end of April gets us into more decent 44o night time temps, not warm mind you but doable. We need for other folks to talk some so we can make appropriate plans. Otherwise, all we need (you and I) is an agreed upon day and exact meeting place and target time. I am 8 hours from home by fastest path, 10 if I go by scenic routes. :) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/16/17 at 07:57:28 According to Google Map , I'm only 5 hours away from Santeetlah lake , don't know why it takes me 6 hrs. to get to the Dragon. So you " OK " on an air mattress ? I have a hard time getting up out of them but they do sleep good . Might depend on how many times a night ya have to get up .... ::) The cot offer still stands if ya change your mind. I was reading the "reviews" on google map/directions , how have we missed this place all this time . :) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/16/17 at 12:21:13 I'm kinda interested in the whole lake complex -- for a federal facility they seem to have their heads on straight as far as having 3 managed campgrounds, five (5) Ranger Stations and still having all those dozens of free "open to the first taker" camping places that we have been spotting on already. I am curious as to if it is "by the person" or "by the tent space" at the three full service campgrounds? We could make us some cost advantage using a big tent if it is by the tent space. I also want to know if there is a shower at one of the payme campgrounds in the complex. Yes, see below. So, are we proposing April 23, 24, 26 ??? Or some other combo of days that can include somebody else ??? Dave would prefer something starting on Weds if he were going to go. I found another free site with a toilet facility. It is actually on the Cherohola Skyway side of Santeetlah Lake. https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/nfsnc/recreation/horseriding-camping/recarea/?recid=48924&actid=29 http://68.media.tumblr.com/c75a8b9d22bf6d623bb3b3483f93dc61/tumblr_inline_mwd511lTPB1rpjlkw.jpg I also see mention of 2 cabins that you can put up to six people into each at a cost of $35 per cabin a night. That is dirt cheap compared to where we have been staying. https://www.recreation.gov/camping/cheoah-point-cabin-2/r/campgroundDetails.do?contractCode=NRSO&parkId=75479 YES, there is an open to all campers shower facility 150 feet from Cabin #1 and Cabin #2. You can book this place on line, makes it easy to do. https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/nfsnc/recreation/horseriding-camping/recarea/?recid=48928&actid=29 Here is another map that shows the town with a satellite shot. Costs FREE PRIMITIVE campsites, Campground based tent sites $15 per night first come first serve; $20 per night for RV sites; $35 per night for cabins that hold six (plus a tent on the gravel fire pad if you need overflow). Next, there is a tiny little town actually out in the lake that is named Santeetlah, apparently it was a town in the area before the lake was filled in and wound up with water on three sides out on a peninsula. It is still a tiny incorporated town made up mostly of rich people's lake homes that is showing up on the map above. Yes, we can spend some time poking around and find a range from free to cheap and we may actually maybe find someplace worth calling "home base" for a group run. (Dave is going to want to go now, as he is deeply suspicious of "free to nearly free", but he won't turn down a decent place with a shower and a roof over his head -- just no barking dogs, please) I bet these two cabin places gets booked up a year in advance on the summer weekends. Weekdays, not so likely. ::) http://https://rstorage.filemobile.com/storage/19245932/15 http://https://rstorage.filemobile.com/storage/19245950/15 Cabin #2 - there is room for an additional small tent if you want but it can not be set up on the grass (only within the gravel pad). So it does make the eating area a bit cramped. Nice view of the lake but a longer walk to your car and the bathroom. I also see a fire pit and firewood ..... http://https://s3.amazonaws.com/storage.filemobile.com/storage/18547854/13 http://https://s3.amazonaws.com/storage.filemobile.com/storage/18547852/13 |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Dave on 02/16/17 at 18:05:33 I am not likely to be able to make an April trip.....the June to Kickstand, and Sept. to MM's is probably all I will have time for - Gary_in_NJ and I may make a weekend meeting in PA for a Cafe' bike outing so we can compare notes. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/16/17 at 19:03:26 I like the way you think OldFeller ! ;) I guess I can wait till the last of April. :( But ... I'm not promising not to slip over there for a Day-Ride under the " guise" of visiting my brother (Kent) who lives just a few miles south of Robbinsville. ::) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/16/17 at 19:14:58 By all means, go visit Brother Kent. I'd do it just to go get the lay of the land if I were you. Keep us all appraised of what you find, good or bad. ======================================= I checked up on the Santeetlah cabins and they are very basic 2 room cabins with a large bed frame in one room and four bunk beds in the other room. No power at all except overhead lights. Power is out by the patio area (for cooking) and to cut down on risk of fire. Due to the influx of the Mexican bedbug which has swept through all of NC at this time, all the bedding has been removed completely from the cabins, leaving wooden bed frames still in place. You have to bring your own blankets and air mattress. I am afraid this is likely going to be the way of it going forward, since any campground that provides mattresses, bedding and pillows will likely get hit with complaints or lawsuits if people's homes got bedbugged after a trip to the campground. This is still a risk, even when camping in your own tent as bedbugs are mobile and like to hide in sleeping bags and blankets. i.e. you might as well tent for free and plan to wash your stuff upon returning. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/21/17 at 07:28:11 OK, both bikes are officially "finished" tagged, etc. etc. Here is the Savage with both tanks fulled completely up and both tanks set to "ON" such that they flow equalized to a joint level. This was an "at risk test" to see what would happen if I "did the stupid" to it. I can rest easy, there was not leakage or spillage found while "doing the stupid" as will eventually happen even to the best of us. What is neat is the main tank shut off tap or the rear tank shut off tap, either one, stops all fuel movement between the tanks. So even if I only have half a brain that day, I will likely still be good to go. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/21/17 at 07:36:56 OK, got the Barcalounger windshield sorted, it is as high as it can go, wind blow by is minimized and I can either lay back (mild wind edge churn at speed) or I can tilt forward some and get totally into the calm air pocket. I wore my half helmet during this testing as that is as "wind sensitive" as I ever get. Next, with both gas tanks installed I still have half a saddle bag worth of empty space in each bag. This is a lot of room to me as what is left in the hard bags is as big as my Savage saddlebags ever were, space-wise. Note the pic below, the tent and the chair both hide very nicely over the installation rods that mount the hard bags. I can actually store some extra items (like a plastic drop cloth or a entry ground tarp) inside the tent bag wrapped around the tent as I have room to make it a bit "fatter". |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/21/17 at 07:42:08 This is where I will carry my sleeping bag and my air bed and pillow, all wrapped up together in a cushioned roll up. Note the tops of the hard bags and the top of the sissy seat are co-equal, so with everything loaded up I get a fairly nice air drag package. The wind deflection bows out from the windshield and comes back together brushing the sides of the sleeping bag and the saddle bags as it flows back into itself. This mocks up my standard long distance tent camping load out. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/21/17 at 07:45:09 BARCALOUNGER level comfort, it was the goal word for this bike. Comfort on long hauls was the intent, and I think I pretty much got there. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/21/17 at 08:06:29 All set up to run away from home. Looks great. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/21/17 at 09:31:17 WooooBuddy ! I want to put a tarp roll over the sleeping bag for insurance and take it for a spin ! ;D |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/21/17 at 09:50:49 I got me a waterproof ARMY laundry bag for that duty, but I wanted the picture to show pure soft barcalounger comfort to the maximum degree possible .... |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/21/17 at 10:16:23 That will work too . :) I took my 3.5 gal. out for a ride yesterday ... no leaks ,no drips , no errors ;). Also filled the tank up and will see how many Km I get before reserve , it may be Thursday - 76 and sunny is predicted ... :) I normally get 50+ mpg. on either machine. Kent got him-self a old Harley Sportster 1200 , its the first non-semi-sportbike he's had in 20+ years. He said , "he's trying to slow down a little" .... ::) . Its got a long front end , so maybe he will ease it down a little. I suspect the barcalouger will have you being a little more careful flinging around those corners too. We might get folks wanting to ride with us again . ;D |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/21/17 at 11:17:38 I can stand to slow down some, I do believe -- mebbe down somewhere near the speed limit even. Yeah, I can see a different sort of trip coming in the future -- all kicked back in my barcalounger jest a watching the scenery flow on past ..... If you get Kent and your errant nephew to go to Santeetlah with us that would make 4 of us and we could rent us a cabin and not have to haul the world with us. I do want to rent Cabin #2 for at least one night just to see what it really really really is like -- no substitute for actually doing it for learning the reality of it. Got an answer for the "sleep on the ground on the airbed, now I need to get up" problem --- I got room on the barcalounger to carry a half axe laying next to the tent. A half axe (inside its cover) also passes for a temporary crutch when you need to get yourself up in the morning. Passes for a personal defense item too, people expect campers to have a hatchet or an axe so they don't go put you in jail for it. Vikings flat out liked the axe, they did .... Plus it is good for cutting firewood too (don't have to bend over near as much, sit in the camp chair and chop away in comfort). I also got the camp chair that I will be sitting in at camp, that also makes another good get up tool for levering yourself back up in the mornings. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/21/17 at 21:02:24 Hay , at $35.oo we can rent the cabin anyway. two night , three day ride ? through the week when we have the place to our-self's , it would be nice to get a few more riders to join in . That wayward nephew just bought his first house and is working 60 hrs a week as a welder. My brother wouldn't let him buy the " Dream Bike " while living at home might have been part of the getting his own house ?? ::) I think his hair is still on fire when he rides ... ;D Don't know about Kent , He's visiting here this weekend --- I'll pick his brain about the area . ;) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/22/17 at 19:20:22 MM, you might be neglecting the travel time days and I think you are mebbe thinking and describing a 4-5 day round trip. Break it out your wish trip from arriving on Sunday afternoon, April 23 and plugging in what you want to do day by day and lets see what sort of trip you are really thinking about. Meanwhile, I will see about getting a cabin reserved for that first night on April 23 and a follow up night on the 24th which will give us a concrete meeting up place and time. Need to do this now as the cabins disappear quickly ..... Reservation is done. The cabins are BEAUTIFUL inside, all natural wood was used to build the walls and bedframes -- bet it smells good in there. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/22/17 at 21:02:01 O-K partner ! I'm in for one nights rent and a Three Day Ride ! If it looks like I might be able to stay an extra day or two I'll bring a tent and cot. :) Thanks for setting things up for us. Now that the work is done and the cabin a done deal , anybody can join in ! I went for a ride today : At about 140 km , I thought I'd run out on the main tank ... Thats only about 90 miles ... Well , after switching to reserve it only helped for a few miles.... :-? .... I sputtered on to a gas station only to find it was far from out of gas . After letting it sit for a minute the carb filled up and it ran fine . So , after I got home I drained it and the filter (standard Raptor) inside the tank was the problem. I've cleaned it and will try it again tomorrow . Seems the tank had coating of fine-rust in it. I'm thinking sea foam . ;) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by verslagen1 on 02/22/17 at 21:20:25 Sorry, I'm already engaged in a 5 day ride. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/22/17 at 21:32:58 Versey , where ya headed in April ? :-? |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by verslagen1 on 02/22/17 at 21:38:15 lancers... aren't you? oops that's in may. I'm currently involved in a marathon 25 mile boogie, party then boogie back. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/22/17 at 22:19:10 ::) ya had me going for a couple heart beats (big ones ) . :o May 21st-27th , Lancers ! ;) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/23/17 at 18:05:56 Drove at night tonight and the blue indicator was Soooo-bright ..its blinding. I wouldn't recommend that speedo to anybody. Plus it only has one turn indicator .... I'm getting a different one . http://www.ebay.com/itm/182346866230?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT or http://www.ebay.com/itm/122238531212?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Dave on 02/24/17 at 03:01:57 MM....the blue LED's are incredibly bright and blinding. The good news is that you can put a resistor in the wire that sends the juice to the indicator light....and make it dimmer. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/24/17 at 06:56:02 That is a very good idea ! Resistor in line ... If it were not for the needing two turn indicators I'd do that . I'd thought about putting a pair of diodes in line with the turn wires and putting them both on the same light. ::) It might be easier to go with a different instrument ? I ordered the one made for the Honda Rebel ... but : Then there is plan "B" , ;) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Dave on 02/24/17 at 07:22:24 Diode kits are about $ 8.50 with shipping. Ou could make one if you can find a Radio shack around. http://www.ebay.com/itm/BikeMaster-HO002001-Turn-Signal-Diode-Kit-26-6288-/232183613162?hash=item360f38c6ea:g:uPEAAOSwzJ5XX0Iz&vxp=mtr I can send you a resistor....I bought a pack of them online for a few bucks and got a hundred of them......I only used one when I had to dim the blue light on my Cafe' bike. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/24/17 at 22:16:44 I guess we are lucky to have a Radio-Shack in the next town over . If the next speedometer has the same problem I'm going for the resistor ! :-? when I had to dim the blue light on my Cafe' bike. must be a bunch of those Bright Blue's out there ! ;D I wouldn't miss the bright indicator or the neutral indicator either but the turn signal indicators I miss. :) Don't get rid of the extra resistors yet ... the next speedometer should be here in a week or so ! |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Dave on 02/25/17 at 02:57:16 For some reason....don't know if it is the properties of the LED or how our eyes perceive the color - but the blue LED is piercingly bright. I bought a set of 4 LED's to use for the indicator lights - 2 yellow for turn signals, green for the neutral, blue for the high beam. They all had tiny resistors in the wiring when they were built - but the blue one is so much brighter than all the rest.....it was blindingly bright. And don't buy any resistors as I can send you all that you need. I looked and my eBay purchase was for 500 resistors for something like $4 shipped.....I have 499 left! |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Kris01 on 02/25/17 at 18:19:33 With LEDs, sometimes it's not how bright they are but how the "lens" is focused. They can vary from pinpoint beam to a very wide beam. The same intensity spread out over a larger area is not so bright. You have to study the specs on the LED to figure out how it's going to perform. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by verslagen1 on 02/25/17 at 19:51:44 Sand the end at least so it's frosted. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/25/17 at 21:05:23 Dave , I'll mount the Honda Rebel Speedometer and if its having a similar problem : Then I'd like to help ya with that "to many resistors problem " ;D It might be fun to ride up to your place to get it , enjoy some of that Best BBQ , then camp over and ride back the next day ? ;) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Dave on 02/26/17 at 03:35:29 122B302A6968590 wrote:
The weird part for me....is that I bought indicator lights that were identical, except for the color. They are same small bulb with a plastic ring to snap them into a hole. The blue was far more intense then the other colors. The black shrink wrap on the green wires is the place where they have a resistor from the factory to step down the 12V for the LED....but I had to add an additional resistor to get the blue one down to a brightness similar to the others. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/26/17 at 10:08:29 Guess what I finished up? I gave my sleeping bag a wash, wrapped it up with the air bed and a pillow all inside the blue ground cover tarp and propped it up with my "get up off the ground" half axe crutch ---- after putting a fresh new fighting edge on the half axe (a fighting edge, sharp enough to shave hair off your arm or cut you a bit in casual handling). |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 02/26/17 at 13:15:46 Guess what I finished up? I gave my sleeping bag a wash, wrapped it up with the air bed and a pillow all inside the blue ground cover tarp and propped it up with my "get up off the ground" half axe crutch That looks like a smaller package than my cot and sleeping bag rig , and I use an inflatable pillow to save room ! ... I might have to go looking for those little LED light holders , that looks neat ! :) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/26/17 at 13:23:21 Speaking of blue LED lights, here is a $11 handlebar volt meter and USB port (bought mine off of Amazon, once you pick a $30 one and then go look at the Other Items at the bottom of the next page to go find the one that doesn't cost $30). Or just go to Ebay directly -- same difference. But you gotta go direct all the way to China to get the $11 one. 3-4 weeks delivery time, but it saves you $20. Me, I like knowing my charging system is really working correctly as the opposite condition can flat ruin your day when you are far far far from home ..... |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 02/26/17 at 13:26:52 Backing up a little bit so you can see my new Cell Phone Holder with the Garage Door Opener Control box jest a sitting in it like it was all built on purpose to hold it when I'm not going on long trips. Long trips, the garage door controller moves to the saddle bags and my cell phone shines out a Google Maps route for me to follow, complete with ear bud verbal instructions for when you are too busy with dodging cagers to focus on the tiny screen. And yes, the garage door opener actually has a safety line in case a pothole bump gets to it ..... I do the same trick with my cell phone and it HAS saved my butt at least once !! |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 03/06/17 at 16:10:55 On the Savage the 1 gallon adder tank worked out so well I ordered a 2.6 gallon adder tank to replace it, bringing my Savage up to a 5.2 gallon total capacity. The new rectangular Barritainer Jerry Can (natural semi-clear 2.6 gallon gas tank) is 10 days out from delivery and the start of modifications for fitting to the luggage rack of my Savage. Cost is the same as the old 1 gallon tankage and the same sorts of hold downs and locator features will be used as was developed for the one gallon tank. Something new to this newest installation is a petcock on the plastic tank itself which means both the inline and the tank petcock can be turned off so a loaded gas tank may be easily removed from the bike with no leakage. Plus I like having the tank filter there to keep the misc. trash out of the main fuel lines and main fuel filter. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KTX75C8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 http://https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/410f4Vh%2BPIL._SY90_.jpg |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Dave on 03/07/17 at 03:32:14 It seems that Oldfeller is in a "farkle frenzy"! ::) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 03/07/17 at 04:02:33 Wife says I am just finding things to do -- when the grass starts growing I'll mess with it and paint the house some, etc. Winter is for fixing bikes though .... |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 03/07/17 at 04:04:30 Wife says I am just finding things to do -- when the grass starts growing I'll mess with it and paint the house some, etc. Winter is for fixing bikes though .... (had to look up Farkel Frenzy, never played it as a kid) |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Dave on 03/07/17 at 04:52:26 75565E5C5F56565F483A0 wrote:
I didn't know there was a game called that. Perhaps I should have said "Farkle Fetish"! (Don't google that or you may end up with some NSFW images). |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Oldfeller on 03/07/17 at 05:09:05 Whooo .... farkle splats MM's got 3.5 gallons, OK so now I gots 5.4 Savage gallons available to me but I still got to stop to pee every two hours. Fwerrrp !!! Savage is so light it gets wind shifted going down a 65mph highway and the constant buffeting from the wind is enough to tire you out a bit after 4 hours or so. Makes you appreciate the finer points of laying back all relaxed on your Barcalounger ..... ya got enough mass and wheel base to be all steady like on the interstate. And boy, does that big arsed windshield flat spoil you to it ASAP, all quick like. And that throttle lock is another ASAP spoiler trick, too. ;) ...... I actually kinda like having the bottle holder, too. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 03/08/17 at 21:14:36 Makes you appreciate the finer points of laying back all relaxed on your Barcalounger ..... ya got enough mass and wheel base to be all steady like on the interstate. And boy, does that big arsed windshield flat spoil you to it ASAP, all quick like. And that throttle lock is another ASAP spoiler trick, too. Wink ...... I actually kinda like having the bottle holder, too. Back to top I went to check out the Barnwell State Park in SC yesterday. There were two fellers at "Gods Acre" when I went by there , so I asked them about camping in the area. They told me about Barnwell Park , and added a word of advice about "NOT CAMPING BY THE WATER" , because of Alligators ... :-? I really had to check it out then ... ::) ... The camping area is really nice , the bath house is nice and cleaner than any others we have stayed at except the big one up on the hill at the Dragon , they are about equal in "nice-ness" but Barnwell is geared for two where Dragon is geared for four. O-yea , there ain't no way an alligator would be in the camping area , but there may be some down by the lake. Camping fees are $18.oo per camp site and the two-bedroom cabins are $57.oo/night. Cabins have , Kitchen , Living room (w/40"TV, couch , two big chairs), in cabin bath rooms , and outdoors fire pit w/lawn furniture for four. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Kenny G on 03/21/17 at 08:33:20 Old Feller, Do you remember the part number that you used to order the cable for the speedometer? Kenny G |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 03/21/17 at 21:26:20 Kenny https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiJvMjDoOnSAhUV0IMKHdXiDPwQFgg4MAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FSuzuki-NOS-GT750-GT250-Tachometer-Cable-cable-only-34940-18131-S77-%2F390280898653&usg=AFQjCNFIUNvc2JLLqzI2R-qG6kUYZbcHaw ------------------------------- https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiJvMjDoOnSAhUV0IMKHdXiDPwQFgg-MAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FSuzuki-NOS-Tachometer-Cable-34940-18131-GT250-GT750-SEVEN-MODELS-%2F331312079559&usg=AFQjCNFyVUAWmfiXfWWbAz3eZAZqKPdNDg This is the one I used but I got to tell ya ... its about 3-4 " longer than perfect . I've got the new style tall risers (2005) . and I mounted the speedo to the underside of the handlebar clamp by drilling and tapping a 3/8 bolt in the the bottom of the handlebar clamp. so , the speedo is above and slightly forward of the handlebar. |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by Kenny G on 03/21/17 at 21:46:57 MM, Thanks for the information on the cable. I was able to get one from Ron Ayers after I had the correct part number. Did you find a way to route the cable that absorbed the extra 3 or 4"? Kenny G |
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Title: Re: Over size Tank Post by MMRanch on 03/21/17 at 22:18:16 Just let the extra be its-self ... There ain't no taming those things anyway . ;) I have an area behind the windshield with a cargo net for hauling groceries . Sometimes the extra cable argues with the groceries . ;D |
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