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Title: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 08/27/16 at 23:40:06 Talk about Corruption, way to go REPUBLICANS!!! http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-gops-stealth-war-against-voters-w435890 "When Donald Trump claimed, "the election's going to be rigged," he wasn't entirely wrong. But the threat was not, as Trump warned, from Americans committing the crime of "voting many, many times." What's far more likely to undermine democracy in November is the culmination of a decade-long Republican effort to disenfranchise voters under the guise of battling voter fraud. The latest tool: Election officials in more than two dozen states have compiled lists of citizens whom they allege could be registered in more than one state – thus potentially able to cast multiple ballots – and eligible to be purged from the voter rolls. The data is processed through a system called the Interstate Voter Registration Crosscheck Program, which is being promoted by a powerful Republican operative, and its lists of potential duplicate voters are kept confidential. But Rolling Stone obtained a portion of the list and the names of 1 million targeted voters. According to our analysis, the Crosscheck list disproportionately threatens solid Democratic constituencies: young, black, Hispanic and Asian-American voters – with some of the biggest possible purges underway in Ohio and North Carolina, two crucial swing states with tight Senate races. 2016: First Presidential Election Since Voting Rights Gutted America will vote for president in a country where it's easier to buy a gun than vote in many states Like all weapons of vote suppression, Crosscheck is a response to the imaginary menace of mass voter fraud" |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/28/16 at 03:58:32 Ohh good God, what a load. Who doesn't have identification? Is it too much to ask to have people show that they Are who they say they are? Easier to buy a gun than vote,, geezus,, what claptrap nonsense.. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by WebsterMark on 08/28/16 at 05:31:41 2016: First Presidential Election Since Voting Rights Gutted America will vote for president in a country where it's easier to buy a gun than vote in many states It's hard to overstate the absolute stupidity behind that statement. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by raydawg on 08/28/16 at 08:04:13 The Rollingstone........??? What, did they GANG RAPE your brain dude? The National Enquirer has more journalistic integrity than this 1960's San Francisco draconian dope fused hippie movement to bolster "free sex", rag..... Geez, I feel raped now. PS: And you accuse Jog of only searching out stories that affirm his beliefs, ripe dude ::) |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by Serowbot on 08/28/16 at 08:55:52 http://projects.aljazeera.com/2014/double-voters/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2013/11/03/heres-how-to-clean-up-messy-voter-rolls/ https://www.aclupa.org/files/5413/9715/1471/DOS_RTK_cover_letter_3-10-141.pdf http://www.democracynow.org/2014/11/3/jim_crow_returns_interstate_crosscheck_program https://www.facingsouth.org/2014/04/nc-joined-controversial-voter-cross-check-program-.html http://www.chargertimes.com/1599/features/the-interstate-voter-crosscheck-program/ http://op-talk.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/10/31/voter-suppression-strikes-back-in-2014/?_r=0 |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by raydawg on 08/28/16 at 09:33:21 697F68756D78756E1A0 wrote:
And....... how MANY women have brought forth charges against Bill Clinton with his sexual prowess, YET........ Go drink your lime kool-aid punkin. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by Serowbot on 08/28/16 at 09:50:07 I'd rather be the Party that gets out the vote, than the one that tries to suppress it. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by raydawg on 08/28/16 at 09:55:00 5741564B53464B50240 wrote:
And what party is that.......LOL!!!!! A two party same system, GOTCHA ;D |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by MnSpring on 08/28/16 at 13:59:16 Voter ID, Not required. Interesting. So I can just, get on a buss, with 40 other people, go to 10 different voting districts, with nothing more than a, gas bill, cable bill, rent recite, cell phone bill, etc, etc. and register right their, each time? With OUT, having to prove I am a U.S. Citizen, or, prove what my age is, or prove, I Live in the district I am voting in? Right? But on the way home, want a 6 pack. Buss stops at a store. I HAVE to have my ‘I.D’. to buy the beer. And it is NOT, ‘raciest’, or ‘deeming’, to have, to have, a I.D. for? Airplane tickets, a Job, Checking account, booze, renting, buying a house, collage, doctor, Charge Card, Cell phone, etc. etc. etc. But it is, to, VOTE ? |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by raydawg on 08/28/16 at 14:44:19 55764B686A71767F180 wrote:
Voter fraud is when a primary, isn't..... ;D But back to facts, we had an election up here for gubbner. The repub won two straight recounts. Then, lo and beholed..... Some bags of uncounted ballots show up, well golly gee. The partisan election official said they must be counted, and lower and beholered..... The demo won because of all these new ballots. Were they ever clarified and verified..... Golly, why, it's the results that matter, not the integrity ;D Yeah, whine and moan when your Chad doesn't hang as much as the other guys 8-) When is Hale-Bopp making a return visit ;D |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/28/16 at 18:24:05 6177607D65707D66120 wrote:
It's racist to ask for identification to vote. But, cash a check. Open a bank account File a police report Enter a federal building Get a hotel room Apply for social services You people frikken ate UP with PC bullshitz. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by WebsterMark on 08/29/16 at 06:34:22 Does anyone honestly believe a photo ID is an unreasonable burden? Let's pretend we're all honest for a minute. If you answer yes to that last question, you're a Democrat trying to get poor, less informed people to vote for you. If you don't have a photo ID, honestly now, how informed can you be???? Someone gives you a bus ride to the poll, coffee and a free donut; who do you think they're gonna vote for? If you answered no to that last question, you're trying to stop Democrats from getting easy votes. If both those sides are true, what's best for the nation? No controls on who votes as the Democrats want or at least a half-hearted effort to control who votes? |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by Serowbot on 08/29/16 at 07:32:04 :-? Recent Gallup poll finds a majority of Americans consider "statistically nonexistent" voter fraud a real problem Bob Cesca Quote:
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by old.indian on 08/29/16 at 10:48:13 7264736E76636E75010 wrote:
We had a recent case of a gentleman registering his dog as a voter.... And in many areas where there is large support for the "other party" voting locations are changed at the last minute and there is a "shortage" of ballots. In one town near here, one of the candidates received more votes than registered voters in the district ..... FYI..I tried to register as a member of the Anarchist Party.. (Our party platform is "Fire them all and start from scratch with HONEST people!") But the County Clerk, and no one in the office could figure out what I was talking about. 8-) |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by MnSpring on 08/29/16 at 11:11:38 "... We had a recent case of a gentleman registering his dog as a voter.... " It's got to be So Much, work, digging up all those graves, so the bony hand, can hold a pen, and fill out a, 'Abstinence Ballot'. Oh, Wait, maybe someone, else, did that for them. ? ;D " ... And in many areas where there is large support for the "other party" voting locations are changed at the last minute and there is a "shortage" of ballots. ..." " ... In one town near here, one of the candidates received more votes than registered voters in the district ..." That happens ALL the time here. ALL the time. Oh, but Wait ! It's doesn't happen at all ! (According to 'some') ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Just a thought, how about a, National Registry, of people no longer with us. Than cross check that with a voter. (Think in today's age, with the super fast and powerful, computers, it could easily be done) Hey, if a person is dead, can they still be called, a, 'Racist'? Thinking about the time, 25,000 DEAD people in a State, that voted for someone. And it was Not brought to light, until the other party won the Gov office, 14 years later. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by HovisPresley on 08/29/16 at 11:39:24 MnS, Have you ever made up figures to support your views? Ever 'invented' people to back you up? I'm thinking about all these women who wanted to join this forum but were reluctant to, for some reason.... |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/29/16 at 15:10:26 Thinking about the time, 25,000 DEAD people in a State, that voted for someone. And it was Not brought to light, until the other party won the Gov office, 14 years later. Back to top And with that New Found Position of POWER, what legislation that the Other party passed that Caused the Change in Power did they repeal? NONE? Ohh, SHAWking. At the state level, they Might, but the federal criminals Never repeal Anything. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 08/29/16 at 15:33:46 46595F5845427343734B59551E2C0 wrote:
they have id when they REGISTER, soon you'll be asking that they give blood to prove they are who they are, and MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, that'll satisfy your paranoia... maybe |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 08/29/16 at 15:35:25 2F3C24393C2A3A5D0 wrote:
And....... how MANY women have brought forth charges against Bill Clinton with his sexual prowess, YET........ Go drink your lime kool-aid punkin. [/quote] nice distraction, not on topic, but I guess that's too hard for you and most of the republican/conservatives on here |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 08/29/16 at 15:41:34 6D5F58494E5F48775B48513A0 wrote:
does anyone actually believe voter fraud at the booth is a problem?? but I guess BIGGER government is better then |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 08/29/16 at 15:47:35 6A757374696E5F6F5F67757932000 wrote:
don't be so jealous JOG, others have found a way to live without photo ID, I know you'd love that cause you could be off the grid more effectively that way, and you don't need ID to buy tin foil. is it too much to ask to LET REGISTERED VOTERS VOTE!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by raydawg on 08/29/16 at 15:58:51 0625393E0B383E23393E4A0 wrote:
And....... how MANY women have brought forth charges against Bill Clinton with his sexual prowess, YET........ Go drink your lime kool-aid punkin. [/quote] nice distraction, not on topic, but I guess that's too hard for you and most of the republican/conservatives on here[/quote] No, I just did a Bot...... But hey, you don't look both ways for you cross a street, do you punkin. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 08/29/16 at 16:51:11 5A49514C495F4F280 wrote:
And....... how MANY women have brought forth charges against Bill Clinton with his sexual prowess, YET........ Go drink your lime kool-aid punkin. [/quote] nice distraction, not on topic, but I guess that's too hard for you and most of the republican/conservatives on here[/quote] No, I just did a Bot...... But hey, you don't look both ways for you cross a street, do you punkin. [/quote] awww, you think I"m the JOKER and that makes you Harley Quinn, since you keep callling me punkin like she does, but I always knew you and your ilk were a little off, crazy lil beaotch! dude, your response about the Clintons had NOTHING to do with Bot's listing of all the other sources this story is on. now I know it's hard, but let's try to focus shall we? :-* |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/29/16 at 17:00:45 7655494E7B484E53494E3A0 wrote:
don't be so jealous JOG, others have found a way to live without photo ID, I know you'd love that cause you could be off the grid more effectively that way, and you don't need ID to buy tin foil. is it too much to ask to LET REGISTERED VOTERS VOTE!!!!!! [/quote] Is it Too much to ask them to show that they Are who they Say they are? Do you want people buying guns without ID? It's a RIGHT, isn't it? |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 08/29/16 at 17:22:52 617E787F62655464546C7E72390B0 wrote:
don't be so jealous JOG, others have found a way to live without photo ID, I know you'd love that cause you could be off the grid more effectively that way, and you don't need ID to buy tin foil. is it too much to ask to LET REGISTERED VOTERS VOTE!!!!!! [/quote] Is it Too much to ask them to show that they Are who they Say they are? Do you want people buying guns without ID? It's a RIGHT, isn't it? [/quote] if only you had to register your gun when you buy it like you register your vote when you vote, then the ID wouldn't be necessary, because you'd have used it when you registered the first time!! oh, and let's make you wait 30 days before you can buy a gun after you register, and if you don't buy a gun by the second Tuesday after the First Monday in November then you have to wait a whole year longer to buy a gun. voting and the whole registration process is CRAP, it should be easy to vote, show up, show your birthright and where you live (convenient with a photo id but not the only way) and vote, PERIOD, end of story, but NO, because of the party system we have both parties control the voter registration system, oh, and even though they are political parties, they are PRIVATE companies, not government, so we have PRIVATE companies controlling our Voting, when a private company controls that much of government, isn't that called oligarchy?? or at least crony government, that we've had since voting registration began!? |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by WebsterMark on 08/29/16 at 17:30:16 voting and the whole registration process is CRAP, it should be easy to vote, show up, show your birthright and where you live (convenient with a photo id but not the only way) and vote, PERIOD, end of story, Something tells me if all those disenfranchised voters were pulling Republican levers, you wouldn't give a $hit..... |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by raydawg on 08/29/16 at 17:43:03 2F0C10172211170A1017630 wrote:
And....... how MANY women have brought forth charges against Bill Clinton with his sexual prowess, YET........ Go drink your lime kool-aid punkin. [/quote] nice distraction, not on topic, but I guess that's too hard for you and most of the republican/conservatives on here[/quote] No, I just did a Bot...... But hey, you don't look both ways for you cross a street, do you punkin. [/quote] awww, you think I"m the JOKER and that makes you Harley Quinn, since you keep callling me punkin like she does, but I always knew you and your ilk were a little off, crazy lil beaotch! dude, your response about the Clintons had NOTHING to do with Bot's listing of all the other sources this story is on. now I know it's hard, but let's try to focus shall we? :-*[/quote] I am typing slowwwwwwww When someone post about Hillary, he will bring up Trump. In doing so, he doesn't address the question. You know, like. Your momma is fatter than my. momma. And that justifies everything. As. It does. In general. with the liberal beliefs. Like. Clinton can screw anybody using his position. Missionary. Doggy. I don't know. Judge Thomas has one lady who makes a claim. She stayed on with him, afterwards, even. That is enuff to try and ruin the man. No. I don't expect your left brain to understand. You. Have no right brain. It appears. dismissed. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by HovisPresley on 08/29/16 at 17:47:46 The left side of the brain is responsible for controlling the right side of the body. It also performs tasks that have to do with logic, such as in science and mathematics. On the other hand, the right hemisphere coordinates the left side of the body, and performs tasks that have do with creativity and the arts. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 08/29/16 at 19:38:40 3E2D35282D3B2B4C0 wrote:
And....... how MANY women have brought forth charges against Bill Clinton with his sexual prowess, YET........ Go drink your lime kool-aid punkin. [/quote] nice distraction, not on topic, but I guess that's too hard for you and most of the republican/conservatives on here[/quote] No, I just did a Bot...... But hey, you don't look both ways for you cross a street, do you punkin. [/quote] awww, you think I"m the JOKER and that makes you Harley Quinn, since you keep callling me punkin like she does, but I always knew you and your ilk were a little off, crazy lil beaotch! dude, your response about the Clintons had NOTHING to do with Bot's listing of all the other sources this story is on. now I know it's hard, but let's try to focus shall we? :-*[/quote] I am typing slowwwwwwww When someone post about Hillary, he will bring up Trump. In doing so, he doesn't address the question. You know, like. Your momma is fatter than my. momma. And that justifies everything. As. It does. In general. with the liberal beliefs. Like. Clinton can screw anybody using his position. Missionary. Doggy. I don't know. Judge Thomas has one lady who makes a claim. She stayed on with him, afterwards, even. That is enuff to try and ruin the man. No. I don't expect your left brain to understand. You. Have no right brain. It appears. dismissed. [/quote] so you're pulling Pee Wee Herman "I know you are but what am I?" jeash, when you grow up let me know so I'll talk to you again but also, why don't you do this WHEN SEROW IS DOING IT???? cause this time he WASN'T doing it and you look like fool, foo' |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 08/29/16 at 19:59:06 665453424554437C50435A310 wrote:
you'd be wrong, but I wouldn't mention it here because there'd be like 80 other people screaming about it already, the Republicans yell about dead people voting and scream about the 3 or 4 examples they find of voter fraud at the booth in the last 10 years to justify their ID laws, while they ignore the cases of states like Florida and Mississippi and Louisiana and 36 other states where voters are purged off the voter registration list for pretty much no good reason. but Republicans aren't screaming about those purges because they know that LOW voter turn our benefits them so the less people that vote the better for Republicans. Our voting system is HIGHLY flawed, and if you really wanted to influence a national election, wouldn't you rather do it 25,000 voters at a time instead of one or two at the booth, Republicans are going after both, laws to discourage the elderly and inner city poor (mostly democratic voters) they've admitted this on camera asa well, that the voter ID laws are targeted towards democratic voters. as well as voter registration purges targeted toward "felons" or "duplicate names" anything to keep the turn out low, Republican DON'T WANT YOU TO VOTE. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/30/16 at 03:16:38 Republican DON'T WANT YOU TO VOTE. Interesting thing, that is.. Let's inspect it. Initially, I thought, ohh, Bull, but, after thinking about it, maybe it's true. Why would it make sense to limit Voting if YOU NEED VOTES? Hmm, bit of a conundrum, innit? Well, the only thing that I can come up with that would make sense is, The bubs know the percentage of idiots who will vote for the worst possible candidate thinking that is the way to more Free Stuff, Get them some Obaaama phones, and some free medical care and get that house all paid for,, So, fewer voters equals fewer idiots voting. Maybe fifty years of destruction of the black community is enough. Maybe they are ready for a different way.. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by WebsterMark on 08/30/16 at 04:28:33 you'd be wrong, but I wouldn't mention it here because there'd be like 80 other people screaming about it already, Big 'ol Bull$hit flag on that one! At leadt I'm honest, if someone doesn't have a photo ID or can't do something as simple as keeping registration up to date, I don't want them to vote cause that's a sign they can't keep their $hit together which means they probably take tons of government handouts which means they'll vote for Santa Claus, I'm sorry I mean a Democrat. Same with felons, illegal aliens etc...... Hell, if it were up to me, you'd have to be 25 to vote and paying income tax. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by MnSpring on 08/30/16 at 17:53:32 4665797E4B787E63797E0A0 wrote:
OBTW, Bought a, '(GASP)'_ Gun Today, a Handgun non the less. Requirements: Fill out the 4473 form, Have a 'NICKS' check done, (A call to the FBI) A Valid copy of my 'Purchase or Carry permit'. Oh, what, was that other thing ??? Oh Yea that's Right, a 'State I.D', (Which in my case, because I drive, was a Drivers License) Which is, if you don't need, because you don't drive, a simple, I.D. which is FREE ! And: 0B2834330635332E3433470 wrote:
Don't know all the, 'State' Laws. But I am fairly certain, the same laws apply in TX. (When you purchase a firearm), But, by your posts, you don't, Think they should be. In Minn, (Only in Certain Areas), you do NOT, need a DL or ID card, to VOTE. ONLY, a, "Cable Bill". (That's ONLY, in Certain Areas, where, 'Perhaps', a Election judge, says so) And by your posts, rather, 'clear', where you stand. As with Many Other peoples, "Stands', that post here. OBTY, Lost, did you notice, I did NOT, call you a, "PUZBAG" LOLOOOLOLOLOLOLL Ya know, have been in, Huntsville, Houston, Alvin, Just a thought, perhaps their is a job for you in 'Austin' ? |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by WebsterMark on 08/31/16 at 04:13:05 6E786F726A7F72691D0 wrote:
In this morning's St. Louis Post-Dispatch: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/p-d-investigation-reveals-multiple-problems-with-absentee-voting/article_e1adc2da-3463-576d-bcdf-88acc8de5d96.html |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by WebsterMark on 08/31/16 at 04:58:09 oh, by the way, I looked and there were 11,208 murders with firearms in 2015. With 300 million guns in the US, that's .00003736 And, I'm guessing on the high end, 25% of those were committed with legally purchased guns by non-repeat felons. That's.000009934 So, gun control can't be a big deal in your mind, right? |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/16 at 05:01:57 Then, we should not even NEED a photo ID to buy a gun. No problem, statistically.. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 08/31/16 at 15:08:19 253A3C3B2621102010283A367D4F0 wrote:
you don't need a photo ID to buy a gun, only if you buy it from a gun store. if you want to buy it from an individual, it's just like buying anything else, no title involved or nothing. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 08/31/16 at 15:20:19 6F7076716C6B5A6A5A62707C37050 wrote:
just look at this very post thread, you have Webster, a well known conservative republican, wants more limits on voting, and I've heard MANY conservative radio hosts want to go back to at least Male landowners Republicans pass laws to limit early voting, they purge voters from registration rolls, they ad additional requirements beyond just registering (which is too much in and by itself in my opinion) and there are plenty of uniformed voters on the republican side as well, there's no IQ test to vote, well, not since Jim Crow laws |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/16 at 16:44:31 And your point? And what is so wrong with people who wear uniforms? |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by MnSpring on 08/31/16 at 16:49:57 50736F685D6E68756F681C0 wrote:
Yes, that is right. In some States, and I believe TX is one of them. That can be done. It is Just like, buying, DRUGS. Same way, Same thing. NOW, as Paul Harvey always said; “Here is the REST, of the Story”. With a firearm, it is called a FF (Face to Face) Transfer. The Seller, is required, to check if the buyer, is, 21 or 18, (depending on the firearm). Required, to see proof the buyer is a Resident of that State. Required, to ask,: “Are you, or have you ever been convicted of a Felony”? And, (In many States), (if it is a handgun) Show a valid, Permit to purchase/carry. AND, the vast majority of ALL, Sellers, require the Buyer, to sign a BOS, (Bill of Sale) Outlining, the Firearms details, date, buyers name, address, DL#, and the Signature line, states, the buyer, Is, (all of the above). (It is just a C.Y.A.) Are their some, that’ do NOT, follow the law. Sure. But ALL, people who buy Drugs, (Which their are hundreds of thousand more) Do NOT. So when Hitelery, says: (And she has several times), “… one can buy any gun off the Internet…” She is, LYING, by omission of ALL the Facts ! Which to the people, who do NOT know how it works, they think it is like buying a tea cup, off flea-bay. Again, (Paul Harvey), “The REST of the Story” I bought a gun, from a person in TX. We agreed on the price, I sent the money, I ‘OWNED’, that gun. BUT, I could Not Take, ‘POSSESSION”, of it, Until. He shipped it to a local FFL Dealer, and I went in to that dealer, and did ALL, the Paperwork. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/16 at 17:32:01 ostArtist wrote on 08/29/16 at 23:33:46: ... they have id when they REGISTER, soon you'll be asking that they give blood to prove they are who they aostArtist wrote on 08/29/16 at 23:33:46: ... they have id when they REGISTER, soon you'll be asking that they give blood to prove they are who they are, and MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, that'll satisfy your paranoia... maybe Why do you Want to make it easy to cheat? you don't need a photo ID to buy a gun, only if you buy it from a gun store. So, yes, if you buy a gun in the MOST COMMON MANNER, you need an ID. But, since Mr. Independent has come up with a way to Not need one, then Clearly, anyone who wants to vote should be able to just show up and vote. I have voted without a card. Just Told them my name. They flip to it, there's my Address, right there, all I have to do is read it, upside down.. no sweat.. And just exactly How do they Know what percentage of votes are fraudulent? Do I average That lie with the unemployment numbers? You can believe it, I'll pass. soon you'll be asking that they give blood to prove they are who they are, and MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, that'll satisfy your paranoia.. Ohh, lookie, isn't that just CUTE!??! He's pretending that I am unreasonable. As if that makes NOT TAKING REASONABLE PRECAUTIONS look like it's good. Geesus... Why is wanting to make sure that our voting is not a sham so bad? And, LA, I see I'm not the only one who Thinks you're a flaming liberal. Now, you Claim to be independent, but your posts are labeling your attitudes, and your attitudes are those of the left. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by WebsterMark on 08/31/16 at 20:07:44 ....I've heard MANY conservative radio hosts want to go back to at least Male landowners name three. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 08/31/16 at 20:31:26 457770616677605F736079120 wrote:
Michael Berry, Michael Savage and Mark Levin have all at least pondered it, Berry has voiced actual support for it |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/16 at 21:08:54 Gender doesn't matter. Property, not necessarily land, does. Real property, not a car. People who have nothing, voting for people who do to Give them some. I need my Obama phone. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by WebsterMark on 09/01/16 at 04:46:05 42617D7A4F7C7A677D7A0E0 wrote:
Michael Berry, Michael Savage and Mark Levin have all at least pondered it, Berry has voiced actual support for it[/quote] Never heard of Berry and I'd question your definition of pondering since you already said "many want to" and as it turns out, that was a hell of a stretch so I'll give you a break and drop this. However, the St. Louis story keeps getting bigger. Think about it, politicians are narcissistic, power hungry individuals, on both sides. You anti-business liberals are always saying businessmen would sell their mothers for a buck so you don't think politicians use the liberal voting laws and cheat?Seriously? |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by WebsterMark on 09/03/16 at 04:20:08 St. Louis judge orders a new election so I guess you were right Lost, voter fraud is real!!! Thanks for pointing that out. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by pg on 09/03/16 at 16:51:00 I didn't realize just how bad the crime is in St Louis. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-02/two-worlds-20-most-violent-cities-are-america http://https://infographic.statista.com/normal/chartoftheday_4294_the_20_most_violent_cities_worldwide_n.jpg Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by WebsterMark on 09/04/16 at 05:53:39 That does fall under that saying that you can use stats to prove anything..... St. Louis City and St. Louis County are separate entities so crime gets reported separately. The infamous Ferguson for example is in the county and there are several small municipalities that are $hitholes that sit on the edge of the city. However, what happens is many gang bangers from these areas commit crimes in the city so it distorts the city crime rates. However, thats not to say for a second the city is safe, it's not, but it's like most inner city, urban areas in large US cities with high % of black residents Chicago, Baltimore, Memphis.....fill in the blank. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/04/16 at 06:20:17 About thirty five years ago Odessa Texas was the murder capital of America. Very violent place. A half a block down from the slot car track, in front of a car was, some guys beat a vuy down then sprayed ether in his face ,, and he died.. I had to use my knife twice, once someone got hurt, the other time they went away.. It was not a good idea to be in certain areas of town if you didn't belong there, but generally the killings were not interracial. White guys were killing white guys more than blacks killing whites. And the Mexicans would kill a white guy, but I don't know how it was between blacks and Mexicans. I did have a few Mexicans tell me to leave the park and not come back. They were being nice.. They told me they had been watching me and thought I was nice and they didn't wanna see me get hurt.. best place in Town to throw a Frisbee and I had to leave.. Next day or so, news reports of a man who lived across the street, dead in his front yard.. The distinction of being the murder capital of America has changed since. Now it seems to have moved to places with a larger black community and a really sorry job market. Amazing what people who have no way to envision a good future will do. The opportunity to work at a decent job just doesn't exist in so many places now. Gee, How Did THAT happen? But, in spite of the obvious destruction done to America and Americans by the trade deals, Nobody can DO Anything about it.. Uh Huhh,, |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 10/02/16 at 15:00:24 MORE EVIDENCE of REPUBLICAN VOTER SUPPRESSION EFFORTS http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/2016-election-pennsylvania-polls-voters-trump-clinton-214297 "The stalled line wasn’t because of the high turnout. It was what was happening at the check-in desk. Story Continued Below “The attorneys for the Republican Party were challenging the credentials of pretty much every young voter who showed up,” recalls Pat Clark, a Pittsburgh activist and registered Democrat who was working for an election-protection group that day. The GOP attorneys were acting as poll watchers. A common practice in many states, partisan poll watching helps parties get out the vote and keep an eye out for irregularities. But in Pennsylvania, laws governing how observers can challenge voters are unusually broad, and that makes them susceptible to abuse." Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/2016-election-pennsylvania-polls-voters-trump-clinton-214297#ixzz4Ly4SGWpa Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/02/16 at 19:03:44 You mean like how the IRS challenged the T party groups? Gee, it's almost as if the government doesn't Want to hear what the People have to say. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by verslagen1 on 10/03/16 at 12:41:51 maybe they should just fingerprint everybody and use that for ID on the ballot. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-30/meet-young-virginia-democrat-registered-19-dead-people-vote-virginia |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by verslagen1 on 10/04/16 at 22:32:24 why aren't we seeing anything on this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd58AGvWWEA |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by WebsterMark on 10/05/16 at 05:54:21 I think you already know the answer to that question. The news media is controlled by liberal Democrats. Therefore, no one really knows to the extent voter fraud occurs. As I posted earlier, it was discovered to be pretty common here in St. Louis. I can't believe it doesn't happen in a larger scale in many other places. it might be harder to pull off in the national elections as opposed to local elections or even congressional elections. However with the staked being so high, I'm sure somebody is already working on those extra votes for Hillary. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/05/16 at 08:20:39 Just enough to get people upset,, it's a Problem And the people will React And they will demand a Solution. Gee, just a coupla months ago, Obama pretended such things just don't Happen in America. America is just Too Good for OUR election process to be anything less than above board. Somehow it's just Wrong to expect people to show ID,, and I am a bad person because I don't know why. But,after the reaction, or because of the reports, well, just Might need to have someone come keep our election safe and secure. IOW, make sure Hillary wins. I hope people will set up and take exit poll information in some of the real battleground states. I have yet to meet anyone who will admit to supporting Hillary... Nope, take that back, I heard one guy talking in a hardware store,,I think the guy he was talking to and he agreed.. So, 2 for her. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 10/05/16 at 17:32:52 544B4D4A5750615161594B470C3E0 wrote:
what does that have to do with voting?????? |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 10/05/16 at 17:34:47 4E5D4A4B54595F5D5609380 wrote:
wait? Coverage ON THE MOST WATCHED NEWS NETWORK isn't enough for you? |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 10/05/16 at 17:36:26 657A7C7B6661506050687A763D0F0 wrote:
holy crap!!!!!! you just said her name, not a made up name or an attack on her or anything, just her actual name as it is. WOW, I'm proud of you jog!!! :-* |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by MnSpring on 10/05/16 at 19:44:03 " ... I have yet to meet anyone who will admit to supporting Hillary... " I Have. (One Person) The local Small town Liquor Store, changed hands about 6 mo ago. (Always try to shop local when I can) The new owner, nice guy, one day, about 2 months ago, we talked a little politics. He Said: “I’m voting for Hillary”. I said: “OK, Gotts to go now.” Haven’t been back. He lost my Meager 30-40.00 a month. But when talking to people in the P.O., Gas station, Car repair shop, etc. And I mentioned, his words. I Got a, “Oh Really”. Don’t know what people, they talked to. Don’t know who those people talked to. Don’t know if they all went the next town over or not. But it really doesn’t matter, Cause hillery, will, GIVE him Money, if he needs it! Right ???? "But What Does It Matter". |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 10/05/16 at 22:07:01 okay, this "I don't know one person who is supportive of Hillary so no one is..." crap has to stop. You all do understand that we as human nature dictates, tend to surround ourselves with like minded individuals, we don't go out seeking the different and strange, we surround ourselves with friends and family and within our comfort zone, so no, it's really not surprising that people as openly conservative as you all haven't heard anyone support Clinton, I haven't heard anyone in real life actually support Trump without a healthy dose of "I just want change, I want a shake up... etc...." kinda of excuse. So you all are making much ado about nothing, as usual |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by WebsterMark on 10/06/16 at 05:32:32 Where I work, we have a approximately 220 outside field sales engineers. My job as a segment manager is to develop expertise in one particular industry to assist them. Over the past six or seven years, I have probably spoken to each of them at some point and spent time in the field and after hours with many of them. Their job is to go into a manufacturing facility, hospital or school and solve a problem. They review, analyze, pilot test solutions and finally implement across the board. These are all people who must create everything. No one hands them a list of people to go see that day. They create opportunities and develop solid reputations within their areas as THE GUY to call when you need them. They are all well rounded individuals, you have to be in order to deal with representatives from the entire US economy. Here's my point, out of all 200+ field reps and the 20 or so managers like me, I know of one, that's right ONE, Hilary supporter. As an example, I was in a meeting last week with 18 engineers from a major US beef company and someone cracked a Hilary joke and of course everyone laughed. Why they laughed is a critical question. Why the guy who told it felt completely comfortable telling it is another critical question. I think it's because all these people create things, we generate solutions to problems. We get dirty one day and are in a boardroom the next. Honestly, we're a throwback to the days when you could make a good living without wearing a tie. It's easy to be rich and liberal because it doesn't cost you anything. It's easy to be poor and liberal cause it doesn't cost you anything. It used to be easy to be a union worker and vote liberal because you thought they had your back, but that's changing. The question this election cycle is are there more "makers" than "takers" in this country. And that's how this all relates to voter fraud. Both the obvious frauds and another form of fraud which is the Democratic lies to blacks ie the Obama phone woman and the false Republican war on women. I'm hoping the "makers" of this country make one more stand, perhaps the final stand, else this Republic experiment dies. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/06/16 at 05:55:15 Being a liberal is easy, until you run out of other people's money. And that day is closing in. Good post, |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by MnSpring on 10/06/16 at 07:37:12 The question this election cycle is are there more "makers" than "takers" in this country. That is a EXCELLENT Statement. And the, 'takers' say, to the 'makers', 'Get to work'. Just so they can, 'take' more. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 10/06/16 at 10:30:43 7A596447455E5950370 wrote:
who do you think the "takers" are?? you mean takers like GM, or one of the other 27 "billion" dollar profit makers that didn't pay any taxes? takers like hedge fund managers that pay 15% or less because they don't "work" for a living? takers like people who get the Earned Income Credit and Mortgage deduction and end up getting money from the government? oh and who are the "makers" people LIKE ME who pay my taxes and have NEVER taken anything from the government (as in food stamps or other actual checks) or for you are "makers" only those that hire others and "create" jobs? |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 10/06/16 at 10:33:05 655750414657407F534059320 wrote:
wow, you mean corporate America is republican!!! who knew!! :P |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by Serowbot on 10/06/16 at 10:41:08 According to 538,... Hillary has 48.4 million voters, as opposed to Trump's 43.3 million... That you don't see the majority of the country is not surprising... You only see where you look... |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/06/16 at 10:46:33 6E4D51566350564B5156220 wrote:
who do you think the "takers" are?? you mean takers like GM, or one of the other 27 "billion" dollar profit makers that didn't pay any taxes? takers like hedge fund managers that pay 15% or less because they don't "work" for a living? takers like people who get the Earned Income Credit and Mortgage deduction and end up getting money from the government? oh and who are the "makers" people LIKE ME who pay my taxes and have NEVER taken anything from the government (as in food stamps or other actual checks) or for you are "makers" only those that hire others and "create" jobs? [/quote] Based on everything you said, you're certainly not a taker. So, while I understand that SOME corporations seem to be allowed to fluorish while others are taxed and regulated down, and the chosen ones make profit from sales and Still get billions back that they didn't put in, Well, it's old, I'm tired of it, it's just a darnedable mess, With the thousands of pages of tax code, odds are against us doing more than air grievances, pointing out injustices, And there are many. The income tax itself is an affront to a free society. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 10/06/16 at 10:54:22 7F6066617C7B4A7A4A72606C27150 wrote:
who do you think the "takers" are?? you mean takers like GM, or one of the other 27 "billion" dollar profit makers that didn't pay any taxes? takers like hedge fund managers that pay 15% or less because they don't "work" for a living? takers like people who get the Earned Income Credit and Mortgage deduction and end up getting money from the government? oh and who are the "makers" people LIKE ME who pay my taxes and have NEVER taken anything from the government (as in food stamps or other actual checks) or for you are "makers" only those that hire others and "create" jobs? [/quote] Based on everything you said, you're certainly not a taker. So, while I understand that SOME corporations seem to be allowed to fluorish while others are taxed and regulated down, and the chosen ones make profit from sales and Still get billions back that they didn't put in, Well, it's old, I'm tired of it, it's just a darnedable mess, With the thousands of pages of tax code, odds are against us doing more than air grievances, pointing out injustices, And there are many. The income tax itself is an affront to a free society. [/quote] and I agree with a lot of that, the tax code is absolutely a rigged system, but Trump just wants to keep it rigged and rig it a little more, now Clinton has some BS blanket rich people tax increase that isn't fair either.. there shouldn't be a blanket tax cut for the rich or a blanket tax increase on them either, a graduated flat tax would be great, but that's almost an impossiblity if trickle down does work, do YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTAND what a TRICKLE is??? it's not rain down, it's not pour down, it's dripping the unwanted excess down. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by WebsterMark on 10/06/16 at 10:59:31 5345524F57424F54200 wrote:
all that does is prove Romney's 47% quote to be heartbreakingly true. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by Serowbot on 10/06/16 at 11:15:27 586A6D7C7B6A7D426E7D640F0 wrote:
all that does is prove Romney's 47% quote to be heartbreakingly true.[/quote] Ignoring those "elitist", Hollywood millionaires,.. most doctors, lawyers, journalists, professors, musicians, artists, scientists, writers,... in fact, the majority of the higher educated... All a bunch of moochers... |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by WebsterMark on 10/06/16 at 11:40:44 Take a close look at those people you listed.....oh and add atheists to that list...1) do you think they represent America? 2) do you think they're all Hilary supporters like you? I don't think so, I know some of those and they still have their balls. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/06/16 at 13:04:07 Having majority support doesn't equal being right. One man, alone, against the world, isn't necessarily incorrect in his beliefs. Once upon a time it was just a Given that we are a geocentric solar system. To state otherwise was to be labelled heretic. And yet, here we are. Gee, MAYBE the guy who was so injured and disabled that All he could Do for several years was think, study, reason, and consider what he had seen, Maybe that guy went in search of answers that others, those who were able to work, didn't have time for, found information that would challenge the validity of the basic claims. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by Serowbot on 10/06/16 at 13:45:54 665453424554437C50435A310 wrote:
You should try talking like an adult... instead of 5th grader, Trump... You and Dawg are obsessed with genitals... Grow up,.. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 10/06/16 at 13:59:21 526067767160774864776E050 wrote:
all that does is prove Romney's 47% quote to be heartbreakingly true.[/quote] all that proves is that YOU don't understand that 47% number at all According to 2011 data from the Tax Policy Center, more than half of the filing units not paying income taxes are those with incomes less than $16,812 per year. Nearly a third - 29.2 percent - of those paying no income taxes are tax filers earning between $16,812 and $33,542, and 12.8 percent are those with incomes between $33,542 and $59,486. In other words, the poor are least likely to pay federal income taxes, but many middle-class families are also exempt. Smaller but significant numbers of the higher-income earners are also exempt: The same data shows that in 2011, 78,000 tax filers with incomes between $211,000 and $533,000 paid no income taxes; 24,000 households with incomes of $533,000 to $2.2 million paid no income taxes, and 3,000 tax filers with incomes above $2.2 million paid no income taxes. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fact-checking-romneys-47-percent-comment/ so they aren't all po people yo. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 10/06/16 at 14:03:19 112324353223340B27342D460 wrote:
so are you the determiner of who represents America?? where's the form I need to fill out? |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by WebsterMark on 10/06/16 at 14:43:37 You should try talking like an adult... instead of 5th grader, Trump... That's how men talk to the self-emasculated. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 10/06/16 at 15:32:09 6E5C5B4A4D5C4B74584B52390 wrote:
so sad you are, you have to boast about your masculinity all the time to feel like a man... some of us, well, don't, but maybe you have little hands.... ::) |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by WebsterMark on 10/06/16 at 15:58:10 Oh geez.....that's a lame comeback. I'd like to think you could do better but I guess not. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by Serowbot on 10/06/16 at 16:15:33 Vulgarity is the fool's fig leaf ... |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by LostArtist on 10/06/16 at 16:29:16 033136272031261935263F540 wrote:
why should I even bother? just like your candidate, you don't want to actually talk about the issues, you'd rather insult and call names, which, just makes my point even more clear. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by HovisPresley on 10/06/16 at 18:57:31 Mark, just to make it clear...am I correct in thinking that: * Every male here has no balls...except for you * Every male here has a Savage....except for you ? I can see Suzuki's marketing department having a busy day ;) |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/06/16 at 19:53:35 352A2C2B3631003000382A266D5F0 wrote:
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by Serowbot on 10/06/16 at 21:24:14 JOG,.. you just quoted yourself... :-? Do you want to give yourself a +1 or something?... :-/ |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by WebsterMark on 10/07/16 at 05:51:46 7754484F7A494F52484F3B0 wrote:
why should I even bother? just like your candidate, you don't want to actually talk about the issues, you'd rather insult and call names, which, just makes my point even more clear. [/quote] Bull, I talk about all kinds of issues, its just when cornered, you balllessliberals run for cover. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by WebsterMark on 10/07/16 at 05:55:41 * Every male here has no balls...except for you No Ace, just you. Brownie points if you can guess the movie that's from. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/16 at 15:00:36 2630273A22373A21550 wrote:
I was really going for the Reach Around, but somehow, I think you knew that. |
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Title: Re: Voter Fraud is REAL!!!! Post by MnSpring on 10/09/16 at 18:41:13 1635292E1B282E33292E5A0 wrote:
Egg Zactaly ! You, who PAY Taxes. YOU, who work. Will PAY, the, 'Increase', in Taxes, (Not for Roads, Infrastructure, things that benefit all) YOU, will pay the Taxes, on the, 'rich', (Because they will just pass it down). YOU, will pay the taxes for the poor, Or for the people, who NEVER PAID ANYTHING, (Because the guberment pays them) YOU, will Pay ALL the Increase in TAXES. Thank YOU ! ME?. I am, Collecting, (What I Was FORCED, To Pay IN) And, YOU, will be, FORCED, to pay MORE, to Keep the, Ponzi scheme, going. Again, Thank You. (Oh, if you haven't yet. READ, "The Little Red Hen") |
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