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Title: Do conservatives understand how US Govt works Post by LostArtist on 02/25/16 at 21:01:00 Conservatives are angry at THEIR REPUBLICAN Congress not getting anything done, do they understand that Obama is President and that the Congress doesn't get to rule the nation. They say that they want a return to the Constitution, yet they don't seem to understand that we have a 3 part government SET UP BY THE CONSTITUTION! They don't want compromise, they want to shove their laws down our throats, well guess, what, y'all gotta win the White House first, but the way you're acting, you'll lose the Senate in the process because you hate your do nothing Senator, who really can't do anything you want anyway because of the separation of powers set up by the Constitution. It's a pain, sorry, but that's how it works cupcake. |
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Title: Re: Do conservatives understand how US Govt works Post by raydawg on 02/26/16 at 03:55:48 Less we forget cupcake...... It takes two to tango. Sorry to burst your bubble, but this is why the Donald is even where he is at, and that is scary. People are sick and tired of the CRAP, the PC bullchit, and the lies of hypocrisy from politicians, media, establishment.... But some folk are still "lost" and follow their party minions as good little sheep. |
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Title: Re: Do conservatives understand how US Govt works Post by LostArtist on 02/26/16 at 08:29:18 46554D50554353340 wrote:
First, I'm independent and don't belong to any party. and second, you got my point, you said it takes two to tango, conservatives don't seem to grasp that and then they blame THEIR republican representative for not tangoing alone?! people aren't sick of PC, only conservatives are, the rest of us actually like a little civility in our government. |
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Title: Re: Do conservatives understand how US Govt works Post by Paraquat on 02/26/16 at 09:18:44 No. I'm pretty sick of the PC crap too. But when you're lower class White American and spend more time working than relaxing you start to see where it'd be easier to give up and accept the generational welfare. I'm registered as a Concerned Citizen, if that matters. I'm more tired of the petty bickering that doesn't matter. As an example, gay marriage. WHO CARES? If two dudes want to pound it out, it doesn't have any bearing on me. Abortion. If a woman wants to have an abortion, WHO CARES? Unless I'm the father, her abortion has no influence on me. Instead we have a bunch of whiny little beeeeetches who think everything is their problem and they are on a social crusade to "set right the world". --Steve |
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Title: Re: Do conservatives understand how US Govt works Post by raydawg on 02/26/16 at 10:42:23 092A36310437312C3631450 wrote:
First, I'm independent and don't belong to any party. and second, you got my point, you said it takes two to tango, conservatives don't seem to grasp that and then they blame THEIR republican representative for not tangoing alone?! people aren't sick of PC, only conservatives are, the rest of us actually like a little civility in our government. [/quote] You wanna buy a clue from Vanna punkin, I'll wait for you :-* |
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Title: Re: Do conservatives understand how US Govt works Post by LostArtist on 02/26/16 at 13:03:17 61726A77726474130 wrote:
First, I'm independent and don't belong to any party. and second, you got my point, you said it takes two to tango, conservatives don't seem to grasp that and then they blame THEIR republican representative for not tangoing alone?! people aren't sick of PC, only conservatives are, the rest of us actually like a little civility in our government. [/quote] You wanna buy a clue from Vanna punkin, I'll wait for you :-* [/quote] grow up, oh, I guess you are one of those Trump voters, I'm not going to roll in the mud with you |
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Title: Re: Do conservatives understand how US Govt works Post by LostArtist on 02/26/16 at 13:04:26 5A6B786B7B7F6B7E0A0 wrote:
I see that a lot on the conservative side, I'm sure it exists on the liberal side too, but when you have the Veto pen, you don't have to whine so loud. |
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Title: Re: Do conservatives understand how US Govt works Post by raydawg on 02/26/16 at 16:26:26 10332F281D2E28352F285C0 wrote:
First, I'm independent and don't belong to any party. and second, you got my point, you said it takes two to tango, conservatives don't seem to grasp that and then they blame THEIR republican representative for not tangoing alone?! people aren't sick of PC, only conservatives are, the rest of us actually like a little civility in our government. [/quote] You wanna buy a clue from Vanna punkin, I'll wait for you :-* [/quote] grow up, oh, I guess you are one of those Trump voters, I'm not going to roll in the mud with you[/quote] Wrongo again bucko..... For a self professed know it all, this shoulda been an easy one for you.... I have stated many times I don't see me voting for Trump, perhaps if Hillary wins her party, and its Trump, maybe, but if its Bernie, even tho I don't agree with his ideas, as they way they are being presented in the press, I agree with the targets, big business, banks, insurance, and affordable schooling, education should NOT be sold for a profit..... Now I know of many democrats, even in my extended family, who voted for Obama, who are voting for Trump, that anger is on both sides of the isle, even if you don't believe it.... |
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Title: Re: Do conservatives understand how US Govt works Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/26/16 at 18:11:15 Just as most confuse the crony capitalism we are watching happen and being victimized by and call it capitalism, the Republicans that you're calling conservatives really aren't conservatives. Trump is a Deal Maker, according to him. Yeah, he Says he's gonna control the borders. Someone needs to. There's really no example of a socialist country that survived except Libya, and that was because of the extreme abundance of oil and the fact that That Eevil Gaddafi really was , generally, good to his people. I've posted details of what they had. Look at the blessings we gave them. But, I digress... Americans, for the most part,have forgotten what freedom Requires. The social engineers Really went to work in the sixties. When Polite equals being penalized for calling something what it is, telling the truth is Rude, buddy, screw That. Demand for freedom for confused boys to use the girls room? Demanding people contract with people to celebrate an abomination? You can Have it. I will fight against it. And the stacked deck that both sides threw at the Tea Party MADE this whole Trump thing Possible. The most unwilling to accept those whose viewpoints differ are the left. Elect Libertarians, determined to leave you alone. Until people actually understand what Keynesian monetary policy does and what the Debt based, DEBT based, fiat currency system does, there IS no saving America. Understand the difference between currency and money. |
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Title: Re: Do conservatives understand how US Govt works Post by LostArtist on 02/26/16 at 19:12:21 435C5A5D40477646764E5C501B290 wrote:
France is Socialist, the UK has a lot of socialist qualities, Finland is pretty socialist, Italy is highly socialist, Spain is too (admittedly not the best example) heck, here's a map for ya, these are all members of Socialist International http://mastakongo.com/english/images/Articles_photo/November2015/Countries-governed-by-SI-parties-in-2015.png it is entirely possible to tell the truth without being rude, most just don't have the education or want to expend the effort to do so, and it's a bit more confusing to the masses, it's much easier to say "Shut down Planned Parenthood" than it is to say "Restructure Planned Parenthood to eliminate any possible confusion about their role in abortion and medical research" are either of those possible, idk, but one's a catchy soundbite Telling it is like it is, means, not being able or simply not wanting to understand it completely and just basing it on it's face value. Life is so much easier when you see in black and white instead of 16 million colors. Unfortunately I fear that libertarianism just leads to a feudal system where the rich have serfs and slaves again, because humans are extremely flawed and might makes right is so easy to live by. Crony capitalism is probably the best we're going to get, if we're lucky we can contain it so it can be a little bit less intrusive in our lives and start making corporations pay their fair share of taxes (by fair share I mean their actual tax rate or closer to it than the 12.6% they pay on average now, yes their tax rate is 35% but they actually only pay around a 12.6% tax, that's what I've read, it may be wrong, and what you've read may be wrong too) and what they are burdening the government for to keep wages low. reality is a mess huh? |
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Title: Re: Do conservatives understand how US Govt works Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/26/16 at 19:23:05 It would help if everyone knew how the government is supposed to work. I'm among a very small number here who have a clue. |
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Title: Re: Do conservatives understand how US Govt works Post by raydawg on 02/27/16 at 08:49:16 3D2224233E3908380830222E65570 wrote:
JOG...... We have documentation scripted by our founders, that is fact. But even your use of the word suppose, is subjective, in context. Factor in how much America has changed ( good, bad, indifferent, that is a different argument altogether ) since our founding, and it would be amiss to believe they apply EXACTLY today, as they did in those days. Please don't read into my response that I am affording dismissing our foundation, as not being literal, no, but to further build upon, to encompass, on ever changing circumstances, as they arise. As all things evolve, or they stagnant to the point of extinction.... Would you agree to remedy of the standard medical procedure, of those days, to address any condition you sport now? I think not. You would use advances in thinking, and technology, etc, to afford you the best opportune to success. Can we not use this same mindset in learning to govern a society, as it advances in years as well? EDIT: Not sure, but maybe most societies met their distinction because they failed to adapt, not because of external forces applied to them. |
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Title: Re: Do conservatives understand how US Govt works Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/27/16 at 18:04:28 Scientific progress compared to principle? You believe that I would suggest leeches to cure the clap? Abortion is killing the unborn. It was passed by a court that was able to read the constitution and split the Born in the United States and say, Well, they are not born, so, they have No Rights. Murder a pregnant woman. Charged with two murders. Makes no sense. |
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Title: Re: Do conservatives understand how US Govt works Post by raydawg on 02/28/16 at 07:30:17 0B141215080F3E0E3E06141853610 wrote:
No, of course not. You give valid examples where reasoning is faulty, and in conflict of themselves..... But as to the thrust of my point, just because some ideas fail, does not mean we can't improve on others.... |
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Title: Re: Do conservatives understand how US Govt works Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/29/16 at 19:51:10 Toss the suggestions out there. |
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