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Title: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE -Final Paint!! ***) Post by smokin_blue on 01/20/16 at 18:04:52 Hey guys (and gals!) now that Cafe ala Carte is pretty much finished it is time to move on to the next project and I thought I should start a build thread on it. I finally convinced my wife that she should let me build her a custom. A little background, she started riding again a couple of years ago after being away from it for 15 years. Even back then she didn't get into it that much. Well mid life has a way of changing you. 3 years ago she wanted to get back into it and really wanted a small bike, like the Rebel 450 she had so long ago. I couldn't convince her to get an S-40 no matter how hard I tried. She wanted a smaller bike to learn on again. I couldn't slight her for that so we picked up a 10 year old GZ250 that was just mint. She rode it for 8 weeks and put 1,400 miles on it. After a 125 mile ride chasing my Sprint ST up big hills along the river bluffs of the WI/MN boarder she finally agreed maybe it was time to look at an S-40. We sold the GZ for $200 more than we paid for it and bought a 2006 S-40 in August and she put another 2300 miles on it. The next year she logged just over 6,500 miles which is pretty respectable living in Minnesota where we have such a relatively short riding season. Now this past year she put on 6,100 miles and she did her first long trip. We did 700 miles in 2.5 days consisting of two 300 mile days back to back. That doesn't seem that bad until you realize we were working hard to hold a 40 mph average because it was all curves so that was 8 hrs in the saddle each day. The reality of this trip is that it brought out some of the challenges of the S-40 (like a tank with 2.9 gal) So fast forward now to this fall. I finally convinced her to let me build her a custom and build her the bike I thought the S-40 should be. I really wanted to buy her a second bike to build but she kept saying no. Then jokingly one night she said "You work nights right?" Because she didn't want her bike down for anymore than 24 hrs at a time since she pretty much rode everyday the weather allowed. Then the reality set in. If she wanted the custom and wanted to have full access she had better let me buy a second one. So we set out to find one. We ended up buying a matching Black 2006 S-40 from PBLover who used be on this forum. (Didn't know that until we got home and figured it out). Same bike she had just less miles. Below are pics of the new bike and the twin. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/2ND2006S40.JPG Here are the twins! (and the proud owner) http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/TWINS.JPG So now the build! My plans are to change all the little things I don't quite like about the S-40. (No arguments, these are just my views) The build plans are these: 1. Convert to mag rims so we can run tubeless tires. 2. Convert to chain drive and gear up 10% 3. Upgrade to a 4.2 gallon tank. Link for that mod http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1453431803/0#0 4. Upgrade the front brake - 320mm 4 pot here we come. 5. Dyna muffler and rejet 6. Add the Trail Tech Vapor computer she loves so much 7. Small windshield 8. Shave the rear seat profile 9. Ditch the blocky rear brake light for a under fender cat eye 10. Convert left grip to smaller diameter to help small hands on the clutch side. 11. Versy Cam chain tensioner mod 12. Fix the plug leak Lastly it will be painted. Hence then name. I told my wife she had to name her bike. She thought for a while and came back with Purple Passion because she wanted it painted a deep rich purple. Now the search for a deep purple started and to try to find a car to look at with that description is a challenge. I send a gear headed coworker on the hunt and 20 minutes later I had a link to a picture. YES! that was it. 2016 Dodge Stryker Purple!! It is a tricolor so it has a deep base with a tinted clear midcoat with metal flake and then a clear over that! So it is dark and rich in the shade and explodes in the sunlight! Here is a picture from SEMA. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/StrykerPurple.jpg I have gotten started so stay tuned as I update the thread with build details. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - the project begins Post by Kris01 on 01/20/16 at 19:05:31 Waiting patiently...! ;) The 4.2 gal. tank sounds very enticing. Are you going to mod the stock tank or build a custom one? That should give us about another 50-75 miles per tank (roughly). |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - the project begins Post by smokin_blue on 01/20/16 at 19:12:10 Nope...Finally found another model that fits actually quite well. I will try to get the details of that build up tomorrow. ;) |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - the project begins Post by Kris01 on 01/20/16 at 19:16:33 Looking forward to it! ;) |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - the project begins Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/20/16 at 19:18:19 Convert to mag rims so we can run tubeless tires. 2. Convert to chain drive and gear up 10% 3. Upgrade to a 4.2 gallon tank. (I will post a link here for a separate thread on that one since I think it will be of interest to others). 4. Upgrade the front brake - 320mm 4 pot here we come. 5. Dyna muffler and rejet 6. Add the Trail Tech Vapor computer she loves so much 7. Small windshield 8. Shave the rear seat profile 9. Ditch the blocky rear brake light for a under fender cat eye 10. Convert left grip to smaller diameter to help small hands on the clutch side. 11. Versy Cam chain tensioner mod 12. Fix the plug leak You're gonna do ALL that and Not slap a cam in it? |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - the project begins Post by smokin_blue on 01/20/16 at 19:21:10 Well if I do a cam...... then I had better put the VM on it .....oh and port the exhaust.....maybe a big bore kit and a high comp piston.... Sounds like a kitchen project now ;D That is a good point though. I will have to think about it. I do have a cam, carb and porting on the Cafe bike. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - the project begins Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/20/16 at 19:53:47 I did cam, Supertrapp/14 disks, jets, and if I could do it over I think I would not do that expensive Supertrapp, but do the Dyna. I didn't port it. Id do that if I had a chance. I did increase the volume between filter carburetor, and I don't think I would do that K and N filter again. Gotta have Something to go in there so you can ride while it dries. That's a tasty looking purple. Left alone with that car, I don't think I could promise to not lick it. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - the project begins Post by Dave on 01/21/16 at 04:19:56 I put a Wiseco 95mm and Stage 1 cam and did some port clean up and made the donut in the exhaust port a bit bigger, and a DYNA muffler....and I ran the stock carb for a year before I did the Cafe' conversion. The stock carb worked very well after it was jetted properly, and the engine ran great. Later I switched to the VM carb and noticed it was a bit quicker to respond to the throttle changes - but the difference wasn't huge and it was easier to hold a steady speed with the stock carb....the stock carb actually worked really well. The belt drive is really a pretty nice feature and it is very clean and requires very little maintenance.....you should consider keeping the belt drive and doing the single or double Kawasaki Pulley conversion. The front pulley alone gives you an 8.7% overdrive.....and the front/rear combination gives you a 13.7% overdrive (and may be just a bit too tall for a stock engine). If you did the front pulley and went to a 140/90 rear tire....you likely would get the 10% you are looking for. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1384949185 |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - the project begins Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/21/16 at 07:06:06 Something else that I did was slice the header up and removed the inner pipe. I'm not sure what that accomplished or harm it did. But, I Did study it carefully and planned every cut first, so all the pieces were indexed. It went together beautifully. The welder TIGged it up and got such a kick out of it and the way I put stuff up, it cost me nothing. With the Dunlop rear tire on it the speedo was pretty accurate. The carb is sensitive to atmospheric conditions and I only saw 100 MPH once, but the 0-60 time was either six seconds or dadgum close. Some of these guys have dropped weight off AND jacked up the little engine some. Depending on your riding style and choices of mods, this bike Can, be made to get across town, drag pegs around tight corners and longer sweepers, and generally just be a hoot to ride.. Now, what Dave has, I don't know how it acts off the line or wanting to go from 25 to 40. But I can see cruising around and avoiding the Buzz. By 20,000 miles I had to sew the rubber on the right side peg. The underside was worn away , the end cap weld was almost gone. Baling wire was holding when I sold it. It Will corner hard enough to pinch a foot between the peg and engine. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - the project begins Post by smokin_blue on 01/21/16 at 19:26:05 665F445E1D1C2D0 wrote:
Here is the link for that mod http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1453431803 |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - the project begins Post by smokin_blue on 01/22/16 at 10:50:07 Ok so here is a before picture on the lift. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/S40STOCKTANK.JPG and here is a current picture http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/S40VSTAR650TANK.JPG So far you can see I have the new tank on, I have the new rear wheel, the chain drive, and the seat done. I will post details on each of these areas shortly. as far as the rear wheel someone was asking so here are the details on that. The back wheel will be a 16" off an '83 GS550 but the one I bought has a frozen bearing so in the short term I am using the one off an '83 GR650 that I have parked in my garage. They are essentially the same although the suzuki PN is different. From what I can determine it is only their source of supply that was different. There are a couple of 16" rear mags that are straight bolt ups that you can use the stock brake up and drive hub. The front will be a 19" mag off a similar GS model. There are several models you can choose from and there are some good prior build links to reference on the forum for that mod. Brakes are your issue there but I will be addressing that also in my build. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - the project begins Post by Kris01 on 01/22/16 at 12:44:24 Looking great so far! I wish I had half the talent that some of you guys have! :) |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - the project begins Post by smokin_blue on 01/25/16 at 18:21:47 So if you notice in the picture above that has the new tank in it the seat was also modified. I wanted to take out the blocky nature of the rear pillion. My wife never takes passengers but she does run saddlebags when we are on long trips so I wanted to leave some seat there. I wanted to go with more of a fast back look. So here is the process I used to mod the stock seat for both the gas tank change and for the making the back look more sleek. Starting at the front. Here is the stock seat foam up against the new tank. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/SEATBEFORE.JPG You can see there is about an inch or so of interference with the tank. Here is the trim line of the seat pan as traced off the tank. It worked quite well that the seat fit just under the new tank so I could use it to lay out the new front edge. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/SEATTRIMLINE.JPG Here is the pan trimmed. Now it was key to watch the location of that trim line and it worked out perfect that it lined up with the front edge of where the tang meets the pan on the underside. This leaves the tang in place with full strength. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/SEATPANTRIMED.JPG After this was done I sanded and rounded all the edges so they wouldn't cut the seat cover. From here the foam is trimmed back to match the pan and blend around the tank with a small gap. For this I prefer to steal my wife's electric knife. They work like a dream to carve seat foam. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/FOAMTRIM.JPG If this is all you are doing then you can put the cover back on and pull the front down and staple it. You will need to trip the cover cutting it back to fit down close and tight around the front of the tang. Finished the front looked like this. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/SEATFINAL4.JPG Now if you want to go ahead and turn the back into a fast back style that is a bit more involved. To do that you will be starting with a massive block of foam that looks about like this. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/FOAMSTOCK.JPG Note that the back of the seat is wide at the top and narrow at the bottom. That look we need to reverse along with dropping the top elevation of the pillion area. There are three main challenges we will face in this. The first two relate to the seat pan. There are two high points in the pan that limit how low we can go. And lastly, the strap leaves a nasty impression in the side that will need to be blended out. I start by laying out some rough trim lines to guide me. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/FOAMREARLINE.JPG When I was cutting across I actually angled the knife up a bit in the middle rather than flat across. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/FOAMREARTRIMED.JPG When you are making that cut you need to be very careful of the hump in the pan that goes over the voltage regulator under the seat. I trimmed it within about 1/2 inch to allow me a little for final shaping. I used a small sharp wire to push through the foam and find out what my depth was to the pan at that location. Kind of like a stick in the sand depth gauge. When I do the shaping I will trim as much with the knife as possible but then I move to a sanding disk. I have found that random orbit sanders don't seem to work. I use a 3-5" disk on a drill and I like somewhere between 80 grit and 150 grit. You need to have fresh very sharp sandpaper when you do this. That will cut the foam smoothly. Dull or too fine just doesn't work. At this point you need to start blending and making it as smooth and professional as possible. You would be surprised what can show through a seat cover. You also need to blend out the depression from the old seat strap if you don't want that to show. Here is where I got to. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/FOAMREARSHAPPED.JPG Now at this point it was thinner but not the fast back look I was looking for. The issue is you really can't taper the back of the seat due to a stupid hump they have in the pan for what appears to be no apparent reason other than to frustrate would be modifiers! :-/ it is the hump right where the rear steel tang attaches the secures the back of the seat to the fender. So from here the pan was going to need more modification. I started by cutting out just enough to drop the top of that hump down to the "next level" of the pan. Here is the layout. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/SEATPANLINE.JPG Here are the cuts. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/SEATPANSPLIT.JPG A little more trimming to bring the front of the cuts to a nice V. Then heat the bend point at the front of a T with a propane torch. I planned to use my heat gun but I couldn't find the tip I was looking for so I went old school flame to get the job done. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/SEATPANBENT.JPG Now the gap is closed and that surface that was too high is taken down about as low as you can go and it meets the rear of the seat pan. From here it will be time to do some welding. Again I should have had my heat gun but I used the propane torch. I took the section that I had cut out and slit it lengthwise to make welding filler rod out of it. I used the torch to soften the pan and the filler and slowly worked around in 1/2-3/4" long sections at a time. I allowed them to cool as I worked on another section. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/SEATPANWELDED.JPG The seat pan is polypropylene so it behaves a bit different from ABS if you have ever welded a fairing. ABS is amorphous so it has a softening point and not a hard melting point. It is much easier to sneak up on and work though a wide range of temperature. PolyPro is semi-crystaline material and has an actual melting point that is more pronounced. The material will soften and you can work and weld it but you must be ready when it goes clear you hit the melting point. At that point pull all heat and start to cool it. I realize it is not pretty but it is strong. You can also see in that picture I reattached the seat tang. The holes moved forward a bit because I had to flatten the step in the tang since I lowered that surface of the seat pan. Over all it worked out well. From here I had a hollow section between the foam and the seat pan. I did not want to just keep trimming the foam or I would eventually open a hole in the top surface. So I took the same section out of the foam that I did on the seat pan. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/SEATFOAMSPLIT.JPG From here I opened that slit and sprayed in 3M foam adhesive. It is made for gluing foam and is awesome for working with seats. Very strong stuff. :D I closed the split and it looked like this. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/SEATFOAMFINAL.JPG I did some final shaping so now the back of it slopes down rather than going straight back and dropping off. The seat has more of tapered look to it. Now it was ready for the cover. I normally farm out my upholstery work but this time I wanted to see if I could re-use the stock cover. I have a lot of respect for people that can do decent upholstery. Those guys make it look so easy but it isn't! The stock seat cover is not quite cut right for the new shape. It took a lot of pulling and tugging to get it stretched right to not have any wrinkles back in the area of the old strap. That was partially because I took down the top of the seat as it transitioned from the front to the back half of the seat. I finally got it on the way I wanted and here is the final product. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/SEATFINAL3.JPG For those who want to know just how much did the seat really change here are a couple of comparison shots with a stock seat. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/SEATFINAL1.JPG http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/SEATFINAL2.JPG Up next will be the chain drive conversion with mag wheels including swingarm mods and modification of the stock belt cover for use with the chain. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - the project begins Post by badwolf on 01/25/16 at 18:42:29 Smoking, You are doing a hell of a good job, not only on the project, but explaining it as you go! A big THANK YOU from all of us following now and in the future. For my 2 cents, looking at the back of the seat pan the hump in front and back must be to keep the passenger's weight centered between them. Stiffening the back to keep the passenger from just sliding off under the Savage's ''tremendous acceleration''! |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Seat mods***) Post by Art Webb on 01/26/16 at 17:03:19 yes indeedy, a very good job |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Seat Mods ***) Post by smokin_blue on 02/09/16 at 19:12:58 So here is some more of the build of Purple Passion. I am switching to mag rims so I bought a rear wheel from a 1983 GS550L. I plan to mount that but in the short term I grabbed the rear wheel off my 1983 GR650 Tempter project (future) bike and dropped that on since it had a tire on it. The rims have different OEM PN's but both will work as a straight drop in replacement. I am running the stock crush drive and stock brake hub. From there I set out to do the chain conversion. Now I am running a 130/90-16 rear tire so that increases the rear tire diameter from a stock 23.8 inches to 25.2 inches which is about a 5.9% increase in final gearing (or reduction in rpms which ever way you want to look at it). My target was about a 10% increase in overall gearing and I wanted to keep the front sprocket as relatively large as possible to limit the load on the counter shaft bearing. For the sprockets I chose a 17/49 combination 2.6% taller gearing than stock pulleys. However that combined with the bigger wheel diameter then gives a total overall gearing increase of 9.5%. This takes my speed at 4,000 rpm from 59 mph to 65 mph or look at it the other way if you prefer at 60 mph my revs drop from 4,050 to 3,700 rpm. Lastly if my wife ever wants more acceleration and get back closer to stock then I can drop the front sprocket one tooth to a 16 tooth and I am at only 3% over stock. If anyone is interested in looking at a chain conversion I have a nice Excel spreadsheet that looks at all the ratios and speeds by 100 rpm increments. All you punch in is your tire diameter and front and rear sprocket or pulley sizes. Just send me an email and I will shoot it too you. It looks something like this. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/CHAINCONVERSION.JPG I went with EK530RX X-ring chain with steel JT sprockets. Now I did find with that sprocket combination I was running ended up very close to the end of the axle slot. Once the chain were to stretch and wear the sprockets a bit I would run out of adjustment and then have to take out another two links. This also would negate my ability to drop the front sprocket by one tooth quickly. So I decided to slightly lengthen the slot forward in the swingarm. I clamped it up in the mill and ended up lengthening it by about 0.230". Here is a picture of the stock slot compared to the lengthened slot. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/SA_SLOTAFTER.jpg This allowed me to shorten the chain by 2 links and run closer to the front of the slot. Of course it is never quite that easy. I found that my chain adjusters were just a hair too short to get that full 0.230" so I went to my favorite hardware store...Ebay! I bought a set of GS450 chain adjusters and it was off to the races! Here are the adjusters side by side S-40 and GS450. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/ADJUSTERCOMPARISON.jpg Here is a picture with the chain adjusters on. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/NEWAJUSTER.jpg Ok so now that the driveline was sorted out I wanted to retain the stock belt guard. This is what it looks like stock with a 49 tooth rear sprocket. I really didn't like all the daylight between the guard and the sprocket & chain. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/CHAINGUARDBEFORE.jpg Just to keep the pictures close here is where I got too. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/CHAINGUARDAFTER.jpg To get there it required a few small modifications. First I forgot to mention that I cut off and ground away the vertical mounting tab that is on the swingarm as well as the inside of the belt guard. This was to allow clearance for the chain. Next I had to trim off part of the bottom of the guard or it would hit the SA when I dropped the back. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/CHAINGUARDTRIMLINE.jpg Here is what it looks like trimmed and in place. I also had to trim just a little up where it wraps over the front of the SA by the front screw. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/CHAINGUARDTRIMMED.jpg The last thing I had to do was move the mount hole on the rear tab of the guard. I pulled the shock bolt out and dropped the guard down in place and marked the hole. Here it is drilled out. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/TABHOLE.jpg and then slotted http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/TABSLOT.jpg I realized I never took a picture at the very end so you will have to use your imagination but I cut the two little odd tails off so it looked more like the stock shape. Over all I am very happy with that part of the conversion. I just installed my Verslavy and next I have to fix the head plug leak and set the valve adjustment. After that I will move on to the new front mag rim and a 320mm rotor and caliper upgrade for that wheel. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Chain guard mods* Post by Kris01 on 02/10/16 at 19:04:48 Blue, I've got a similar spreadsheet posted here: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1174239333/45#45 You have to unzip it first and then open it. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Chain guard mods* Post by Kruzader on 02/21/16 at 22:56:04 I'm learning a lot out of this build. Thank you. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Chain guard mods* Post by DesertRat on 03/27/16 at 10:30:50 thank you for the write-up on the seat MOD. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Chain guard mods* Post by smokin_blue on 03/27/16 at 11:23:13 you are all very welcome! I am currently working on the LED tailight mounting, a dyna muffler and a mount for the Trial Tech computer. Then it will be onward to a mag front wheel with a 320mm brake rotor mod. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Chain guard mods* Post by jrobeson18 on 03/28/16 at 09:30:58 How hard was is for the wheel conversion? And belt to chain? I'd be interested in doing it as well. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Chain guard mods* Post by Kris01 on 03/28/16 at 19:01:20 Chain conversion: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1174239333 ;) |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Chain guard mods* Post by smokin_blue on 03/29/16 at 05:20:05 If you search the forum for mag wheels and chain conversion (two separate searches) and you will find quite a bit of info about them. if you still have questions contact me and I will try to answer your questions. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Chain guard mods* Post by verslagen1 on 03/29/16 at 08:27:18 http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1366486692 also search for the title "whale" |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Chain guard mods* Post by jrobeson18 on 03/29/16 at 17:24:05 Yeah.. Thats a little to deep for my taste. I think ill keep my belt drive for now. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Bike is Rolling!* Post by smokin_blue on 09/04/16 at 17:10:47 Ok, sorry for the delay but I finally have the bike out this summer and we are shaking it down. I have some pictures for people to compare this custom to my wife's other S-40 which is close to stock other than the Dyna muffler. Here is some left and right comparison pics (note the sensor and wiring on the right side will go away. That is just an Air Fuel sensor to check the jetting. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/RIGHTSIDE-COMP.JPG http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/LEFTSIDE-COMP.JPG http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/PP-LEFT.JPG http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/STOCKS40-LEFT.JPG http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/PP-RIGHT.JPG http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/STOCKS40-RIGHT.JPG Here is a comparison of the rear seats http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/PPTAIL.JPG http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/STOCKS40-TAIL.JPG And the tanks. note the speedo on the new tank does work. I connected it with a custom speedo cable from Motion Pro. It would read correctly if I had stock wheels and gearing but I am currently reading 10% slow due to 16" rear and the increased gearing I did with the sprocket selection. The Vapor computer is correct. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/PP-TANK.JPG http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/STOCKS40-TANK.JPG The front brake upgrade to 320mm wave rotor and 4 piston early GSX-R/Bandit caliper - custom brake line from Spiegler http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/PP-FRONTBRAKE.JPG The rear sprocket conversion with lowered belt guard http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/PP-REARSPROCKET.JPG |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Bike is Rolling!! Post by Ruttly on 09/04/16 at 17:40:14 Very nice job,did you do any engine mods ? |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Bike is Rolling!! Post by smokin_blue on 09/04/16 at 20:41:11 I did not do any mods on this one other than the cam chain tensioner. I have a K&N flat air filter in place of the stock one. I did mod my cafe engine tho... That one has a ported exhaust, mid range cam, flat slide carb and a high flow exhaust. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1378864265/30 http://www.street-unique.com/CafealaCarte/Photos/RIGHT_REAR.JPG |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Bike is Rolling!! Post by Dave on 09/07/16 at 05:12:41 [split] [splithere] (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1473047398)[splithere_end] Both the Purple Passion and the Cafe' ala cart have been copied into the Bike Build index page, and I have moved the Cafe' bike comments over to the Cafe' bike thread to try and keep the threads a bit more organized. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Bike is Rolling!! Post by smokin_blue on 09/07/16 at 19:05:36 One thing I should mention that I have had to do since the last pictures were taken of Purple Passion was to widen the foot peg stance. With the wider tank the pegs were just a little too far inward. I fabricated mount extenders that moved the pegs out 2". I then extended the foot levers to match. Now it has some very comfortable ergos to match the wider tank. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Bike is Rolling!! Post by Scramps on 09/29/16 at 06:07:03 This cat eye tail light that you have installed, do you have a picture of it? I've ordered a Chinese LED tail light for mine that I intend to install in a similar fashion. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Bike is Rolling!! Post by smokin_blue on 09/29/16 at 10:51:41 What do you want to see pictures of I have lots? do you just want to see how I mounted it? do you want to see it on the bike? or details of the light itself? |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Bike is Rolling!! Post by eagleno49 on 09/29/16 at 15:47:00 I would like to see the light on the bike, and how you installed the bracket. If you have the details on the light itself, that would also be great. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Bike is Rolling!! Post by Scramps on 09/29/16 at 15:52:14 all of the above? ;D I'm very impressed with this build, the bike looks fantastic. I was daydreaming about tapering the rear pillion on my bike and searching for others who have done it already led me to your build I've got a trailer light bolted on where the tag light goes right now, and I was curious to see what your tail light looks like picture's upside down for some reason sorry about that |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Bike is Rolling!! Post by smokin_blue on 09/29/16 at 19:59:06 Give me a day or so to dig up some pictures and post some stuff. I should be able to answer it all and have pics. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Bike is Rolling!! Post by smokin_blue on 09/29/16 at 20:08:26 In the mean time here is the unit I bought. http://www.ebay.com/itm/LED-Cat-Eye-Taillight-Bikers-Choice-160634-/331568220017?hash=item4d33018771:g:hhUAAOSwxcRW9~f6 if that link doesn't work look up ebay item number 331568220017 So far I have been very happy with it both the quality and the brightness. I have followed my wife many times and don't have any issue seeing either the tail light or the brake light. The license plate light that is built in is limited but legally it should count. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Bike is Rolling!! Post by Scramps on 09/30/16 at 12:17:16 Here's the one http://www.ebay.com/itm/281419731986?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT I've ordered My only concern is that it may not fit inside the fender. I measured the opening on the tail at roughly 6" wide, and this light is apparently 6.3". If it doesn't work, at least I won't have a ton of money invested in it. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Bike is Rolling!! Post by smokin_blue on 10/02/16 at 06:09:15 Ok so here are the details people wanted. Let me know if I didn't answer any of them. Below are two pictures of the final tail light in place. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/TAILLIGHT1.JPG and from an angle http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/TAILLIGHT2.JPG I plan to put a decorative piece over the 4 holes from the stock light Now as far as mounting it. I wanted to keep part of the stock mount since I liked the rubber mounting of it. I cut the stock mount at the first step cutting off the old license plate mount and keeping the license plate light mount. From there I added a plate mount that was made out of stiff aluminum. It has a tab that fits up in the back of what is left of the stock mount. I added two holes for the tail light bolts to go through and that clamps the two mount pieces together. You will also see that I had to add a downward cut to the center hole, that is for the tail light wires to go through and not be forced in a tight bend. Also you will see the tails of two small screws high on the mount. I added those as extra security holding the two pieces together. That way I can take off the tail light and the license plate and mount doesn't fall to the ground. Those were drilled and then the old mount was thick enough I tapped threads in it. It wouldn't have to be done but I decided to do it that way. Here are some pics. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/TAILLIGHT3.JPG http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/TAILLIGHT4.JPG From there the bolts of the new light just goes through those two holes with nuts on the back side. The wires I soldered to a stock connector and then fed those wires up through the stock routing and connected them as they connect from the factory. Also to note if it is not clear in the pics, the license plate piece that fits behind the stock mount had a slight bend in it about the top of the plate so that it angles back and provides clearance from the tire. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Bike is Rolling!! Post by Scramps on 10/02/16 at 10:53:54 That makes for a very clean installation, I like it. Thus far I've been avoiding cutting up/drilling into any of the stock parts, just in case I decide to switch it back, but this is one piece that I could change for the better. I'm also thinking about options for filling the old tail light holes, but nothing really appealing has sprouted from my imagination so far |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Bike is Rolling!! Post by smokin_blue on 10/02/16 at 12:49:25 So if you want to save the old mount you can pick up a spare in the market place pretty cheap. Also on the holes what I am planning to do is this. I found grommets at the hardware store that fit. Then I am going to make a fancy T in polished aluminum since my wife's name is Theresa and it is her bike. Then I will attach the T with nice polished button head bolts through three of the four holes and it should look pretty good. I will post a picture once it is done. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Bike is Rolling!! Post by Scramps on 10/02/16 at 16:45:29 Sounds pretty nice, I look forward to seeing it. I love that seat mod as well but I don't know if I have the wherewithal to pull that off. Also, did you make those saddlebag supports? They look very clean |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Bike is Rolling!! Post by smokin_blue on 10/02/16 at 18:19:05 The bag mounts I love now. Those are stock suzuki bag mounts but I had them powder coated when I had the rims done. Now rather than being bright in your face chrome they just fade away and you don't even see them half the time. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Bike is Rolling!! Post by eagleno49 on 10/03/16 at 22:59:17 Thanks for taking the time to post the tail light pictures, I like how you adapted the bracket. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Bike is Rolling!! Post by Scramps on 10/30/16 at 14:05:19 How's everything going up there with this machine? Anything new to report? Hope all is well |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Bike is Rolling!! Post by smokin_blue on 11/03/16 at 19:14:42 Sorry for the delay in my reply, life has gotten crazy again. Bike has been running well and my wife has about 450 miles on it. So far she likes it. The biggest thing was moving the be pegs out to match the wider tank. That seems to have taken care of the only minor ergo issue. Winter is fast approaching in Minnesota so I am currently stripping all the bodywork off it so it can all be painted. Everything is off except the rear fender. I am down to the last 4 bolts to pull that but I have to drop the rear wheel to get to them so that will have to wait until this weekend. My painter is at SEMA right now and I am hoping he can get the paint code recipe for the Stryker Purple. He was having a few issues locating it since very few cars have been painted with it. We have the paint codes but we are not finding that they have published the recipe that goes with those codes. Worse case is we will get some touch up paint and then get that matched. It won't have the depth of a three layer but hopefully it will still look sweet. I need to get going on the decals for the tank so they are ready for paint. need to work up the Purple Passion in a cool font. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Bike is Rolling!! Post by smokin_blue on 12/26/16 at 11:58:22 I got a little more work done. I wanted to take care of the holes in the rear fender. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/TAILLIGHT2.JPG I didn't want to fill them so I decided to cover them. This bike is my wife's and her name is Theresa so I figured it would be appropriate to design a wicked T to cover the holes. So here it is. Here are the offending holes. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/FENDER-HOLES.JPG Here are the parts. It consists of off the shelf grommets. Custom made aluminum spacers, stainless button head screws, nuts, washers, and a custom made T. The T is made from 0.080" aluminum and then was formed to fit the curve of the fender. This shot still has the protective film on the aluminum sheet. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/FILL-PLATE-PARTS.JPG Here it is installed. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/FILL-PLATE-INSTALLED.JPG |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Rear Fender Mod** Post by Kenny G on 12/26/16 at 12:51:30 Cool |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Rear Fender Mod** Post by smokin_blue on 12/26/16 at 13:53:54 I am thinking before it is all done I will end up polishing it to a high finish. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Rear Fender Mod** Post by LANCER on 12/26/16 at 16:35:56 Nicely done . [ch128521] |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Rear Fender Mod** Post by philthymike on 12/27/16 at 09:10:38 Nice! What a cool creative solution. Gives me some ideas... |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Rear Fender Mod** Post by zipidachimp on 12/30/16 at 00:55:01 polish? CHROME, BABY!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Rear Fender Mod** Post by Kenny G on 12/30/16 at 06:21:41 Blue, Is there any chance you could trace the cross and scan it into a Word Document and post it for some of us less creative people to copy? That is asking a lot and I understand if you don't want to do it. "Copying another's work is the greatest form of flattery." Kenny G |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Rear Fender Mod** Post by smokin_blue on 01/01/17 at 12:51:37 OK hopefully I can do one better. I created it in CAD so I have created a PDF of the file with centers for the holes and a 3 inch reference line. It is scaled to full scale so if you print the file at full size you should have a full size pattern to work from. You can confirm by measuring the 3 inch line. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/FENDER-T-REVB-WITH_CENTERS.PDF any other questions let me know. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Rear Fender Mod** Post by Kenny G on 01/01/17 at 13:38:27 Blue, You are a swell guy. I rally appreciate your doing this for me, and others. I have someone that can cut it out for me now that I have a drawering. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) Kenny G |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Rear Fender Mod** Post by savageguy1 on 04/01/17 at 11:15:14 what kind of rims are those? the one with the v star tank |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Rear Fender Mod** Post by Dave on 04/01/17 at 14:40:06 6978777D787E6B70696A190 wrote:
Go up and read reply #10 in this thread. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Rear Fender Mod** Post by smokin_blue on 04/01/17 at 19:50:15 744F4255444853554E464B54270 wrote:
Go up and read reply #10 in this thread.[/quote] I think reply #10 has most of the info you should need. But if you still have questions let me know. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Rear Fender Mod** Post by savageguy1 on 04/02/17 at 10:34:49 I was talking about the bike with v star tank. and what kind of rims you put on it ? |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Rear Fender Mod** Post by smokin_blue on 04/02/17 at 14:15:45 I am not sure how to answer your question. In reply #10 I stated... The back wheel will be a 16" off an '83 GS550 but the one I bought has a frozen bearing so in the short term I am using the one off an '83 GR650 that I have parked in my garage. They are essentially the same although the suzuki PN is different. From what I can determine it is only their source of supply that was different. There are a couple of 16" rear mags that are straight bolt ups that you can use the stock brake up and drive hub. The front will be a 19" mag off a similar GS model. There are several models you can choose from and there are some good prior build links to reference on the forum for that mod. If you are asking what brand a 1983 GS550 and a 1983 GR650 are... they are Suzuki models. If you are asking what that style of rim is called.... they are known as Mag rims. Whereas the stock rims are called Spoked rims. If you are asking something different please let me know and we can figure out what info you are looking for. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE - Rear Fender Mod** Post by smokin_blue on 05/28/17 at 15:41:35 I am way behind in getting photos out here but here is the final bike fully assembled in Stryker Purple. The color is interesting. It is almost black in the shade and then it pops in a bright purple when the sun hits it. http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/PURPLE2017-2.JPG http://www.street-unique.com/PurplePassion/Photos/PURPLE2017-1.JPG |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE -Final Paint!! ***) Post by jcstokes on 05/29/17 at 00:05:09 Very tastefully executed. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE -Final Paint!! ***) Post by batman on 05/29/17 at 08:51:04 Very tasty ,you did a great job! |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE -Final Paint!! ***) Post by Grinin on 03/05/19 at 20:05:30 Good job. What tank did you use and how does if feel sitting behind it? Did it push you back a little? |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE -Final Paint!! ***) Post by Dave on 03/06/19 at 04:26:16 If you read his thread.....you can find what you seek! http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1453431803/0#0 |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE -Final Paint!! ***) Post by smokin_blue on 03/06/19 at 17:13:26 As Dave said that other link lays out most of the details. As far as how does it feel? The seat is about 1 to 1.5" shorter front to back so for me at 5'-11" I sit way back anyway so no distance issue. My wife is 5'-4" and she sits much closer so for her she is much closer to the tank but still comfortable. The tank is definitely wider but not a problem. It does force your legs just a little wider. This is not unnaturally wide just wider than as stock S-40 which is actually very narrow. So to balance the comfort the last thing I did was to move the pegs out 2". I extended the shifter and brake lever in doing that. Now she has a very natural seating position and loves the bike. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE -Final Paint!! ***) Post by Crab on 05/12/19 at 20:25:41 awesome work mate any chance you took any detailed measurements of the original tank ? Ive see an affordable larger alternate one online , not sure how to make it fit can anyone point me to some detailed measurements please regards Noob |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE -Final Paint!! ***) Post by SavageMan99 on 05/13/19 at 08:30:54 WOW! and what are those rims? |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE -Final Paint!! ***) Post by ohiomoto on 05/13/19 at 09:49:44 5163746365674F636C3B3B020 wrote:
Go to the first page of this thread and scroll down to post #10. Then read post #10 and you will find the information you seek. |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE -Final Paint!! ***) Post by smokin_blue on 05/28/19 at 10:48:07 5131303134373035000 wrote:
Sorry I didn't see this post until now. What is it you want to know about the new tank? if you haven't see the thread here are the details on the tank swap http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1453431803/0#0 |
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Title: Re: Purple Passion - (**UPDATE -Final Paint!! ***) Post by LANCER on 05/28/19 at 11:13:57 Nicely done dude ! |
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