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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> Prostitution should be legal. /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1451453944 Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 12/29/15 at 21:39:04 |
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Title: Prostitution should be legal. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/29/15 at 21:39:04 As a libertarian, I believe that is true. I'm curious to see what other people think. Please, explain your thinking if you oppose. Not that it matters what other places do, but Note that America’s attitude toward prostitution is not the norm among civilized nations. It is legal in Spain, Germany, Holland, Finland, Austria, Denmark, Italy, the United Kingdom, Portugal, Argentina, Brazil, and many others. Canada, idiotically, makes it legal to sell sex but not to buy it. (It gets cold up there, and I guess sometimes they forget to wear hats.) |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by cheapnewb24 on 12/29/15 at 22:24:12 My first quick thoughts on the matter is that, ignoring morality/religion, prostitution can be harmful, especially if it's not regulated. Just think of the life of stereotypical female prostitutes. They don't live very nice lives; they live under the control/abuse of their pimps. I reckon that prostitution is not the best kind of occupation to get into :(. Does anyone else have something to add to that? |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by cheapnewb24 on 12/29/15 at 22:26:15 Is prostitution a better occupation where it is legal? Or do they still live terrible lives? |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by HovisPresley on 12/30/15 at 00:01:26 I think it should be both legal and licensed. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/30/15 at 03:52:16 Licensed? Why? Why should anyone need permission from the state to screw for money? The restaurants have a copy of their last inspection, mounted on the wall. Prostitutes, if they want to please the customer, will get regular checkups and show that report. The market will sort itself. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by pg on 12/30/15 at 04:02:02 Prostitution will more than likely be illegal for another 20 years, not for any moral reason though. The US penal system will need more victim less criminals to put in prison. I suspect we are going to see unimaginable changes to the country in the next 10 - 20 years and their is truly no telling. How many honors did Bruce Jenner get just for putting on a dress? Incidentally, I read one may render the services for $4 in Greece. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by WebsterMark on 12/30/15 at 06:03:28 No, it should not be legal. It is not victimless and it is the same as say a professional athlete earning income with their bodies. Legalizing it in the US would be a diaster for girls and young women who've already grown up with the Kim Kardisian's of the world as popular public figures. Sex has consequences. And who gives a $hit about what's legal in Europe? Who wants to follow them down to the cesspool they are in? No thanks. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Paraquat on 12/30/15 at 06:05:17 5B4C4A4649592B0 wrote:
I'm sooooo surrrreee you just "incidentally" stumbled upon that information. ::) The funniest picture I've seen recently was Bruce receiving an award and it said "How can you win 'Woman of the Year' when you haven't even been a woman for a year?" I don't see why it shouldn't be legal. I like the idea of a restaurant rating on the wall. I think the negative aspect of the lives of prostitutes stems from the underground culture. I believe if it were legal it could be refined a little, maybe include a 401k. --Steve |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by raydawg on 12/30/15 at 07:58:10 I could never afford it if they charge by the inch :-X |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by verslagen1 on 12/30/15 at 09:26:48 1A2B382B3B3F2B3E4A0 wrote:
+1 2B202D2938262D3F2A7A7C480 wrote:
like prohibition, because it's illegal, the pro's can't go for help when they need it. remove that stigma. 0B2C352A30133126302F263A430 wrote:
licensing will provide a paper trail that can be followed. saw the doctor, check clean living conditions, check not being abused, check joined the union, check ;) |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/30/15 at 09:34:39 No license required. A Current Health Department Checkup Framed, on the wall, just like what restaurants do. The pimps be looking for a job. Hookers could meet up, talk about the bad guys, hire some muscle, lots about their lives could be improved. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Serowbot on 12/30/15 at 10:14:36 Are you prepared for the consequences of being, pro-hooker and anti-abortion?... Somebody's gonna' have some 'splainin' to do... ;D |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by WebsterMark on 12/30/15 at 10:47:09 You guys are out of your f'ing minds if you thing this is a good idea. The already devastated black community would be dragged further down, if that's even possible. Every struggling young girl, especially in small towns where the opportunities are limited, would be targeted by "legitimate companies" and conned into thinking this is just another career paths. Any of you guys in favor of this have daughters? Neices? You okay with them taking this career path? |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Paraquat on 12/30/15 at 11:03:16 685A5D4C4B5A4D725E4D543F0 wrote:
I have a dog. That about ends my family involvement. How would them being targeted be any different from... what happens now? Modeling, ballet, amateur pornography? I'm not being combative - I'm willing to explore the possibilities but I honestly can't see how it's going to drag the Black community down? --Steve |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Kris01 on 12/30/15 at 13:10:13 407275646372655A76657C170 wrote:
I have a daughter and would never allow her to enter this "profession" as long as I'm breathing. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by pg on 12/30/15 at 14:06:54 0F3E2D3E2E2A3E2B5F0 wrote:
I'm sooooo surrrreee you just "incidentally" stumbled upon that information. ::) [/quote] http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-28/meanwhile-greece-price-prostitute-drops-%E2%82%AC4-hour I didn't think I would ever see or here anything worse than Juarez Mexico; although, I stand corrected. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by HovisPresley on 12/30/15 at 15:09:19 5D6F68797E6F78476B78610A0 wrote:
.............................................................. Did you really mean what you said? ;D |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by cheapnewb24 on 12/30/15 at 15:15:40 694E574852715344524D4458210 wrote:
.............................................................. Did you really mean what you said? ;D [/quote] ::) Yeah, that didn't seem to support his argument. ;D As if... an athlete-- or anyone else, for that matter-- doesn't ALREADY earn income with his/her body. ::) So Mark, what is this supposed to mean? How does "not victimless" have anything logically to do with the concepts of pay for performance and athleticism? |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Serowbot on 12/30/15 at 15:43:36 Fewer concussions... :-? |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by WebsterMark on 12/30/15 at 16:18:11 meant to say "it's not the same" |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by cheapnewb24 on 12/30/15 at 16:44:51 3D2B3C21392C213A4E0 wrote:
;D |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by WebsterMark on 12/31/15 at 05:26:12 How many in favor of legalized prostitution have daughters? How many of those are well off, meaning their daughters will probably never struggle to make their way in the world financially? |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/31/15 at 08:01:43 I have a daughter who is financially struggling. Odd you go there. Does anyone just consider the Constitution? Does anyone just consider freedom? And for goodness sake, IF the court can see a woman's Right to kill what lives in her, she SURELY has the right to rent it out for sex. Hell, if she Wants to, she could rent it out to a welder who needs to see if the new Brand design looks good. It's Her body. Sex is just a different Kind of work. At least they don't have a whole department trying to convince you that you aren't getting screwed . |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Paraquat on 12/31/15 at 08:09:30 47585E5944437242724A58541F2D0 wrote:
I acknowledge a pun exists here. --Steve |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Serowbot on 12/31/15 at 08:18:41 5160736070746075010 wrote:
I acknowledge a pun exists here. --Steve[/quote] Maybe two?... :-? |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by WebsterMark on 12/31/15 at 09:14:59 It's Her body. Sex is just a different Kind of work. Really? You can't mean that. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Serowbot on 12/31/15 at 09:43:05 Interesting info here... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/12/sex-trade-study_n_4951891.html Legalization would be quite a revenue boost to da' gooberment... You surely wouldn't want your daughter/niece in the profession,.. but,... if they were, it would definitely be better and safer, if it were legal and regulated... :-? |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by HovisPresley on 12/31/15 at 09:51:19 6A585F4E49584F705C4F563D0 wrote:
................................................... Sometimes it can be considered 'manual labour', just depends what you paid for ;) |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by WebsterMark on 12/31/15 at 10:25:33 wow...... I'm at a loss for words here. I'm gonna go with the assumption you all are being flippant about this and not really thinking this through. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by MnSpring on 12/31/15 at 10:25:55 Well as far as I, know, it is legal only in one State, Nevada. And, in that State, only a couple of Counties, (Which do Not contain, the big Metro Gaming areas) And the ‘rules’ are: ‘It is Up to the State, to decide’. Just a little thing, called, “States Rights”, (Which the, ‘War’, between the states, (or some call the Civil war), was ALL About !) As for, ‘paying’ for sex. Their is a a WHOLE BUNCH, of people, that do it EVERY day, and it is Totally, Absolutely, Leagle ! It’s called, “A Date”. Who pays for the Car/License/Tires/oil/Gas, etc. Who pays for the Movie/Theater tickets, who pays for Dinner after the movie. (And that is still, not a Absolute, as some Counties in Nevada) Anyway, who cares. No mater what the, ‘regs’, would be, their will Always be the, ‘Top & Bottom’, of the people that do that. And if their becomes a Bunch of States that do that. THEN the Feds, will get involved, with a, (ya gotta have this or that), Just to get the Revenue. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/31/15 at 11:17:54 If it's Her body and she has the right to kill what is growing in her, then she SURELY has the right to rent it out. Actually, I support the legality of prostitution even IF abortion were, as I believe, should be illegal. Yes, it's just a different kind of work. I've rented myself out to many employers to accomplish many types of end goals. I certainly can't see how a society that embraces abortion and legalizes same sex marriage can get on a soapbox and decry it as immoral. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by raydawg on 12/31/15 at 11:37:52 Dude..... it s already legal, sorta. Except we get screwed, and still have to pay, the screwee (gubbermint). PS: JOG, its a waste of time trying to intellectualize with libs, they lack the ability, just be thankful they are NOT Muslim Terrorist...... YET ;D |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Serowbot on 12/31/15 at 12:34:38 67746C71746272150 wrote:
Webster, ... is a Lib?... When did that happen?... :-/ |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by raydawg on 12/31/15 at 13:04:36 6B7D6A776F7A776C180 wrote:
Webster, ... is a Lib?... When did that happen?... :-/ [/quote] you ride the short bus bot? If you lack the discernment to grasp Jogs post, then I am sorry. It is too late to undo the dynamics that got you here...... |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Serowbot on 12/31/15 at 13:49:06 34273F22273121460 wrote:
Gee Dawg,... that might be construed as a personal insult... I'm sure you didn't mean it that way... ::) You're getting away with lot, lately... Maybe you're wanting to do one of your censorship song and dances, again?... :-? |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by raydawg on 12/31/15 at 15:06:31 5543544951444952260 wrote:
Gee Dawg,... that might be construed as a personal insult... I'm sure you didn't mean it that way... ::) You're getting away with lot, lately... Maybe you're wanting to do one of your censorship song and dances, again?... :-?[/quote] Go ahead, censor me, you are getting good at it..... You think this board is your own domain, you minimize other opines, and you play your little one-liners instead of answering a questions or adding to its dialogue. Its is sorta like bots own fairness doctrine. Do you understand me Bob? I don't CARE..... you have really tarnished any fun here, for me, have at it. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by WebsterMark on 12/31/15 at 15:32:46 ease up Ray. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by raydawg on 12/31/15 at 15:47:46 102225343322350A26352C470 wrote:
Webby, ease up, why? |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by cheapnewb24 on 12/31/15 at 15:59:30 Had to look up the term "short bus" to fully understand. Hmmm... Does Bot have a tendency to delete angry posts? Your posts? Just curious 'bout y'all's violent past. 'Course, it's none of my business. Well, I can say that Bot is well known for his political one-liners, if I'm not mistaken. Maybe both of you should quit fighting. Kiss and make up now! :D |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Serowbot on 12/31/15 at 16:03:21 Dawg, you make it sound as though I am trigger happy,.. censoring people every day... Everyone knows that isn't true. Get over yourself, Dawg. You should know you're being unreasonable, when Webster is telling you to unbunch yer' panties... ;D |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by cheapnewb24 on 12/31/15 at 16:05:20 Actually, I still don't think I understand what all this is all about. Ray, you basically said that Liberals are stubborn and then questioned Bot's IQ. Do you feel like being mean today? I don't quite get it. What did Bot not understand? |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by cheapnewb24 on 12/31/15 at 16:18:23 Ray, I challenge you to answer this question: Are you any less set in your beliefs than Serowbot? Remember that a lot of very smart people are liberals and atheists. I currently consider myself neither of these, but it's good to be honest about these things. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by raydawg on 12/31/15 at 16:30:59 Cheap I begrudge no one for believing what they do. I believe according to what works for me, I expect that holds true to all. I have been told I am a democrat and a repub because of my differing beliefs. I don't swill Kool-aid like some. As to bot, he made ultimatum, or threat, and used his moderator position over me, I said I didn't care if he bans or censors me, and I don't. I can take all the banter and challenges to my beliefs and taunts, that to me is fair. If I want to cook in the kitchen I expect heat..... If you want to kick me out because you don't like the way I season my cooking, so be it..... Ain't nothing to kiss and make up about. I ain't mad at bob. I just will go to another stove is all..... Pretty simple eh amigo [ch129299] |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by cheapnewb24 on 12/31/15 at 16:43:01 Ray, you don't have to go. :( I don't know what got you mad at Bot in the first place. Was it just the threats of censorship over the short bus/liberals are stubborn stuff, or was it something before that? :-? |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Serowbot on 12/31/15 at 16:47:26 If you look back, cheapynewb... you'll notice that while JOG is arguing for legalization, and Webster is arguing against... I have only added a few comments and info, plus a couple of jokes... same as you. My "Liberal" or atheist stance is not even a factor in this debate. You'll also notice, Ray has made his own jokes, and has not committed to any side ether... Yet,.. I have not been insulting to anyone. Dawg,.. has a little history of being snide and insulting to me... and any Liberal with an opposing view. You are fairly new here,.. but,.. what is most amazing to me, is Webster is fighting this issue on his own, against many (that's usually my position ;D) ... and yet,.. he has supported his position masterfully, and without resorting to any insults... Webster used to be the king of personal insult... I never thought it possible,.. but he now is one of the most respectful debaters in the TT, even when cornered. Nice job, Web... The golden rule here is,... you can get angry, be crude, and do many things not allowed in the rest of the site... ... but, you cannot make personal insults to other members. Personal insults are never on topic, and don't further the conversation. As now,.. they just distract. ..and we have lost members because of this. Losing members is bad for business... bad for the site. Play on... nothing to see here... We're talkin' hookers here... Remember?... ;D |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by cheapnewb24 on 12/31/15 at 16:51:00 4254435E46535E45310 wrote:
Are you seriously going to run him off like that? :( Considering Ray's last post, yours sounds a little cocky. :( |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by cheapnewb24 on 12/31/15 at 16:54:51 6A7C6B766E7B766D190 wrote:
My last post was a little mean, but I'm sure you understand. Interesting to hear your perspective on the behavior of the forum family. I have recently been learning a lot about differing opinions about my own family. I have generally stayed with my parents and not visited my other family members, but I am now learning firsthand about family relations. Yeah, your summary sounds about right. I just wasn't sure where all this flaming and anger came from. Mark made a pretty strong argument with the daughter thing, so I just didn't say anything for a while. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by MnSpring on 12/31/15 at 17:04:34 WOW, Gone for a while, and the S.H.T.F LOLOOO It is Clear, that Bot, is, ‘Ultra’ Liberal. and it is clear that I, am, ‘Ultra’ Conservative. While Bot and I, (and others), totally disagree, on, ‘Politics’ and what could/should, be done. Just thinking, ‘We agree, to disagree”. And as Bot is well known to throw out, ‘One Liners’. It is, (Totally), Un Like, a ’Subject’ of a ‘Monarchy’, throwing out, ‘one liners’, which have NOTHING to do with the, ’Subject at hand’, and because that, ’Subject’, (of a ‘Monarchy), is Un-Able to VOTE, here. Those, ‘ one liner, comments are, worthless. If Bot, and I, (or you), who oppose his ‘Political’ views. Were in Tucson. I am sure, we could sit down, have a beer/burger, and, ‘discuss’ things. The difference, (on this Forum) is, if Bot is Pressed, he, DOES, state his P.O.V., (Again, NOT LIKE, the Subject of a ‘Monarchy”.) So, let the, ‘Discussion’ continue. !!!!! |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Serowbot on 12/31/15 at 17:06:28 22292420312F2436237375410 wrote:
Are you seriously going to run him off like that? :( Considering Ray's last post, yours sounds a little cocky. :([/quote] I'm not... ...and I meant it to sound that way... ;D |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by HovisPresley on 12/31/15 at 17:10:37 6B7D6A776F7A776C180 wrote:
........................................................ Ok, my fave has to be Kim Basinger in LA Confidential ;D |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by HovisPresley on 12/31/15 at 17:16:02 A Monarchy? :-? |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by raydawg on 12/31/15 at 17:17:37 43484541504E4557421214200 wrote:
Cheap...... I never said I was leaving ( on my own accord ). I said if I was to be tossed, you better be able to lift more than what a pansies can snatch lift. Not sure if the topic is even active anymore..... But any man that has to pay for it, is JV, nothing more. I made the chicks buy me drinks in my day...... So this whole thread is moot to me :-* And on that note.......Ya All Have A HAPPY NEW YEAR ;D |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Serowbot on 12/31/15 at 17:21:16 4D6A736C765577607669607C050 wrote:
........................................................ Ok, my fave has to be Kim Basinger in LA Confidential ;D [/quote] Good one... ;) Julie Delpy in Killing Zoe'... |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by MnSpring on 12/31/15 at 17:27:47 Above, Two, Perfect, Examples ! |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by HovisPresley on 12/31/15 at 17:42:46 Audrey Hepburn in "Breakfast at Tiffany's" 8-) |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by MnSpring on 12/31/15 at 17:55:31 It’s a, ’SPIN”. Like, ’Social Security’. When you were 20 +, you had a job, you were, FORCED, to PAY, into, Social Security, by a Liberal Democrat POTUS.. Never mind, you had your own 401K, or invested in Land, (or other things), which you could, ’sell’ later. You were, FORCED, to PAY, into S.S.. NOW, the, guberment, is calling, the money, YOU PAID, into the FORCED Program, (Social Security) W.T.F., it is NOT, a, ENTAILMENT, !!!!!!! It was Money, I, (and YOU) were, FORCED to pay, (Lib or Con) to PAY. EVERYBODY, that, WORKED, PAID, (Lib or Con) EVERYBODY. And now, the Libs, are calling it a, ‘ ENTAILMENT’, ??????????? Gee, just think, if ‘Prostitution’, was legal. And all those transactions, HAD, to PAY, into S.S. What would be their Now ? |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by cheapnewb24 on 12/31/15 at 17:59:17 "ENTAILMENT" :-? Mean little grammar Nazi, am I? ;D |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by HovisPresley on 12/31/15 at 18:14:47 "Entailment" is a word used in property law. MnS posted about investing in land, to sell later. Sent using iRONY |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/31/15 at 19:13:55 I agree I disagree Please, I have Mark, he disagrees. I'm Trying to get a grip, an understanding ,of what each of you believes is okay here. I'm Trying to read it and understand the position of each of you, but the infighting between you guys is making it difficult. I'm gonna put Hovis down as No Mark No Everyone else,I'm not sure. So, without the What about your niece, or daughter, or underprivileged, or whatever stands between you and an Honest opinion, please, Do you believe prostitution should be legal? My position is clear. And, my position on abortion remains. Contraception is pretty advanced. And, as a former roughneck, I knew that I could get injured or killed. No profession is risk free. There is no conflict in being anti abortion and pro prostitution. My question to you is Should prostitution be legal? No running sideways, just yes or no. If no, why n o t? |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by HovisPresley on 12/31/15 at 19:28:52 Hovis as 'no'? I believe that prostitution should be both legal (over 18's) and somehow licensed or regulated. (See reply #3) |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/31/15 at 19:58:56 Okay, but I am not down with regulation. But, I'll lay regulation aside for now. A simple I agree prostitution should be legal Or Prostitution should not be legal And, if you can, a short Why it should not be legal. I'm Hoping to see intellectual responses, not stuff like I can't even consider making prostitution legal, what if a relative did it? It's not about You,or some horror you might feel IF a relative did it, it's about freedom. Abortion is legal. Ohh, No! What if a relative does it?!?! Ohh, No! Same sex marriage is legal,, What IF? Why should the government care if someone rents out a chunk of their body for an hour, a week, or, a lifetime.? How is it possible to agree with everything else, yet disagree with renting out your body? I'm shocked at the left Not jumping on this, supporting it. And the aquiescent right, pro business, pro industry, what is the problem? I'm truly surprised at the responses. Now, without the back and forth between each of you, Tell me what you think, please. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by old.indian on 12/31/15 at 20:12:06 Legal prostitution ? I'll make a wild a$$ assumption and assume that we're discussing sexual prostitution versus moral, ethical, political, etc. prostitution . In many places where it is legal, such as in Nevada (except Clark and Washoe counties) or overseas (Amsterdam), regulations require frequent health inspections. That does make it slightly safer than areas where a "john" may end up with undesired consequences up to and including a trip to the medical examiner due to stab wounds, blunt instruments etc. Of course prostitution exist on many levels. From the "eye candy" hanging on the high roller's arm, the porn star to the addict turning tricks to support their habit.... I do not regard it as a "victim less" crime. VD, pimps, drug trafficking, and are a few of the side effects. It is a dirty, degrading business for all involved. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by WebsterMark on 01/01/16 at 08:57:50 I'm staying out of the other crap other than to say I just thought Ray was a bit disproportional in his response. I've got no problem with calling a spade a spade. As you know, I think Hovis is a major Richard for acting as grammar Nazi but I've promised some time ago I would behave a little better in the interest of dialoged. ...but I digress. Rachel Ward as Domino in Sharky's Machine when she turns around at the door to look at Burt Reynolds. Wars have probably been started over woman who look like that.... ...which is the point. There are practically no whores who look like that. The ones that do are $500 a pop and they won't look that way for long. Legalized prostitution everywhere won't mean smoking hot babes for $15. it will be advertised like that, but it won't deliver. It's like the casino commercials you see on TV. There are very few drop dead looking 25 years olds dressed in skimpy see thru dresses drinking cocktails and being friendly to everyone. Casinos are full old blue haired ladies spending their dead husbands 401k one nickel at a time and most everyone is dressed like they are taking out the trash at home before bed. I've been to Vegas probably 6 times in 2015 and it's always the same. the last sleeper who propositioned me was a slightly overweight, smelly young black girl desperate for money in a hotel in downtown Milwaukee. That's what you'll get with legalized prostitution. Remember, in a world where a couple of bakers get sued out of existence because they didn't want to make a wedding cake for a couple of militant lesbos, your daughters, grand daughters and nieces won't be able to turn down clients cause they don't like them. Just picture your little girl getting tag teamed by a couple fat Alabama Bubbas who keep there hats and boots on and tell me you're okay with that "cause it's regulated". Sex is different. Sex always has consequences. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Serowbot on 01/01/16 at 09:03:36 Sharky's Machine... great movie. Burt's best. Ward's voice melts butter... :-* |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by cheapnewb24 on 01/01/16 at 09:13:14 JOG, I'm not going to take sides just yet. Mark has a good argument. Things can get nasty. However, Mark I challenge you to consider the argument from consistency that may have been mentioned here before. Remember that abortion is also legal in this country, and that can cause a great deal of emotional distress. So, if one nasty thing should be legal, then why not another? Do you want your girl getting an abortion? So, shall we make prostitution legal, or shall we make abortion illegal? Perhaps society should make up its mind. :P |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by raydawg on 01/01/16 at 09:28:12 Jog..... I got the thrust of your question when you posed it. You are trying to understand why the left says they are pro women w/ their stance/argument, that its their body, re: abortion, yet they allow the laws against prostitution govern these same women on this sex matter. It's simple dude, they see it as a loser that would cost them votes. Nothing more to it than that. You see/saw how they abandon women who bring charges of sexual misconduct against Willie, yet drag Clearance Thomas through the grinder over sexual talk. Not one mention of rape against him, yet.... Its all about what they think will empower them ( the politician ) issues really are only a tool. Nothing more. You saw how Senator Obama was against raising the debt ceiling, etc, then in office said it was ok, and lashed out at those who now found themselves against it. Ditto Hillary, it was cool and patriotic to speak against Dubya, but against Her and Bo, you become a divisive obstructionist that ruins this country.... This is why you will never get a straight answer to a question buddy. I think you know this already ;D I will answer you question however, strictly on merit, aside from my "beliefs". We already have legalized and regulated prostitution. It is called sex surrogate, and it is mostly used under the medical/psychological banner. I see no reason why it could not expand in the hopes it might help some, with sexual addictions, get their fix without having to support an otherwise seamy business fraught with all sorts of baggage. As with anything of this sort of nature, it would produce new problems presently unrealized. It would be up to the regulating agencies to address these matters as they arise. It is sorta like legalizing bars. We are saying its OK to drink, yet, most folk have to drive there. Now when they leave, well, you get my point, we have now just set up a scenario for unintended consequences, on totally innocent folks. One thing that comes to mind with making sex legal, is the emotional attachment to "love" that many bridge under the same root of their persona. Sorta of like how VETS get PTSD from combat, or some in the medical field, who deal with death daily, become desensitized to it in order to survive the emotional conflict of their job, which often exhibits itself elsewhere in a release, like alcohol or drug addictions/abuse ( I know some MD's personally that have battled this effect ). So buddy, I hope I have answered your question. It is a societal equation, not moral, that folk need to weigh. Does it produce more societal benefits, than it does negatives? That is the question, eh? ;D |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Serowbot on 01/01/16 at 09:57:53 I think you're wrong, Dawg... I don't see any Leftist opposition to legalization... Opposition is on the religious/moral Right... Not that it's a forefront issue, but,... the strongest voices on the Left would be feminists calling for protections and decriminalization for prostitutes... This is a "Moral Majority", "700 Club" type issue... That's where the opposition is loudest. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by raydawg on 01/01/16 at 10:31:42 4751465B43565B40340 wrote:
Bot, I think you are reading Jogs original question wrong. To me I read it as a "why is the left ok with the "it's a woman's body" argument ( which on its own is weak ) but ask why its not extended to the pro prostitution stance, removing women from the stigma of, and penalties that befall them? Of course your reference to the moral majority is correct, but moot, as they are consistent on their "moral" arguments against both prostitution and abortion. You assume the left would be ....... supportive, but again, you have put the cart in front of the horse. The question is as I understand it, "why haven't they"? yet. Women are the ones who carry the burdens of crime, on the present situation, why is this not a concern that gets ink? I believe its a loser for them, or, they in fact are morally against it, as a party platform the way abortion is used to swat the right as what they believe pulls women voters into their camp. I can see no other reason as to why, and I believe that was the spirit upon which Jog posed the question. Feel free to explain why they choose one, under a certain reasoning, yet ignore another social issue that is very similar in nature and ramifications? I'd like to hear it..... |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Serowbot on 01/01/16 at 10:55:38 7F6C74696C7A6A0D0 wrote:
I reread it... No mention of the "Left"... no mention of "it's a woman's body"... Simply,.. he's for it on Libertarian grounds... and most civilized countries are for it... (an unusual justification for JOG)... (these same countries are anti gun, pro choice, and have a Nationalized health system)... Beats me,... but I don't see a political differential in the OP question... ... on the issue itself... you are barking up the wrong tree... |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by WebsterMark on 01/01/16 at 10:56:06 Not that it's a forefront issue, but,... the strongest voices on the Left would be feminists calling for protections and decriminalization for prostitutes... This is a "Moral Majority", "700 Club" type issue... That's where the opposition is loudest. I'm neither of those types. Fact is, your impression of those types is what the NYT, CNN and MSNBC tell you, but their understanding is no where near reality. I know many of those 'types' and they would argue against you until the cows came home but if you can to them for help, they'd hand it over. TV shows, nightly news always show the few wachos and try to make it seem like they are the majority, but I promise you, that is not the case. You argue that Muslims are unfairly characterized by the actions of a few; I suggest you apply that towards Christians. I think every father of a daughter or grand daughter should be against this. If you fall into that category and you're not opposed to this, you should seriously be ashamed of yourself. There will be no careful regulation, there will be no protection for the girls (and they will be girls). Affluent liberals who have girls will treat this like they do abortion and inner city gun deaths: "my girl will likely never be faced with this" so to them it will be an academic thought process, a partisan issue. They'll side with whomever The Today Show, Jimmy Fallon or TV sitcoms tell them to side with. Liberal Christians will for the most part, do the same. They don't want to argue or take a vocal stand on anything; that's why their liberal. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Serowbot on 01/01/16 at 11:07:52 340601101706112E021108630 wrote:
You accuse Liberals of non-stop punditry from Hollywood, the media, the arts, and higher education... then say, they won't take a vocal stand on anything?... that's why their liberal?... I need to borrow one your BS flags... ...biggest one you got...:-? |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by raydawg on 01/01/16 at 11:16:24 4D5B4C51495C514A3E0 wrote:
I reread it... No mention of the "Left"... no mention of "it's a woman's body"... Simply,.. he's for it on Libertarian grounds... and most civilized countries are for it... (an unusual justification for JOG)... (these same countries are anti gun, pro choice, and have a Nationalized health system)... Beats me,... but I don't see a political differential in the OP question... ... on the issue itself... you are barking up the wrong tree... [/quote] Let me try this bot...... Does the democrat party favor prostitution, yes or no? If no, why? |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by WebsterMark on 01/01/16 at 11:22:08 " after further review the play on the field stands is called" liberal Christians fit that description perfectly. Ray, I'm not aware of any liberal politicians, at least on a national level, taking a stance on legalizing prostitution. I think that is an issue they would run away from us quickly as they could until they were forced to confront it like what happen with gay marriage. Remember, up to the day before for the last midterm elections, Obama had the exact same position on gay marriage as all the Republicans had. it was only after getting his a$$ kicked and did he have his "revolution" or whatever BS he called it. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Serowbot on 01/01/16 at 11:39:25 Yes or no?... My point here is, I don't think the issue falls along distinctly political lines... Right or Left... I don't speak for the Democratic Party... do you speak for the Republican Party?... I see no stats or polls pointing either way... I believe JOG is correct in saying the Constitution does not support criminalization. I also personally believe there are fewer cons than pros to legalization... That is not favoring prostitution... just as "pro-choice" is not favoring abortion... or "pro-gun" is not favoring killing... A stance on the legal right to do something is not condoning it.. it's just saying we as a nation have no right to criminalize it. If decriminalization were put up to a national vote,... I believe the opposition would be stronger from the Right than the Left... Prohibition didn't work... the war on drugs didn't work... criminalizing the sex trade hasn't worked... That is my opinion... I'm sure you won't be satisfied with it... ...but I think JOG will... |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by cheapnewb24 on 01/01/16 at 11:46:30 112324353223340B27342D460 wrote:
Is there any protection for the girls now? Will it be worse then? Maybe? That underage stuff is already illegal and will probably stay illegal regardless of legal prostitution. Maybe it will be easier to get a foot in the door, so to speak. On the other hand, with regulations and commonly known standards, they might get more protection. Just imagine when everyone knows to look for a certificate, identification, or license on the wall. The future of this kind of thing may be unpredictable. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/01/16 at 12:04:50 Wow, Row nailed it. Understanding freedom. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by raydawg on 01/01/16 at 12:14:14 bot, can you show me where a pro-choice candidate in the democrat party, that is accepted by the party and given equal time to share their position/beliefs on abortion? Is it pro choice or pro abortion? |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by cheapnewb24 on 01/01/16 at 12:34:56 Mark, have you ever considered the possibility that sometimes banning morally questionable things, practically speaking, makes things worse cough: Prohibition :cough. Do you prefer people drinking booze, or people fighting and killing each other for it? Do you prefer for johns to go to the dangerous underground for their fix or to do it legally? Electricity and fluids travel the path of least resistance. People are similar. Put the squeeze on them, and something's gonna give. It's a little like grounding your electrical system well, or putting in safety valves on your boiler, water heater, hydraulic system, or air compressor. In another example, it's like herding livestock. You might put them in a field that might be less than ideal, to keep them from jumping the fence. Would you rather the bull screw your own cows (when you don't want calves), or would you prefer that he jump the fence and run uncontrolled through the neighborhood screwing all the neighbor's cows. :o --At night, when you're on vacation :o. Then somebody gets tired of it and shoots him. :( Really, if you object to such things, keep in mind that the only real way for you to stop this sort of thing effectively is... well... NOTHING-- in a sense. People have to change their hearts. You can preach to them, but only they can make the change. You can do it militaristically, but, like ISIS, Mao, Stalin, and Pol Pot, how many people are you willing to kill or put under subjection to get your way? Yeah, I'm talking a bit extreme here, but you get the picture. Only when each person, on an individual level, thoroughly makes up their own hearts and minds not to take part in such things, will there be no problem. Would you rather everything be legal, and people feel free to be immoral if they wish-- safely and peacefully, or would you prefer everything being illegal and people rebelling and going underground where people get hurt? |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Serowbot on 01/01/16 at 13:29:33 42514954514757300 wrote:
Hate to be a grammar Nazi,... but that sentence is unintelligible, and incomplete... I have no idea what you are asking... Besides that... ::) 2D3234332E2918281820323E75470 wrote:
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by HovisPresley on 01/01/16 at 13:43:22 2036213C24313C27530 wrote:
.................................................................... I reread it... No mention of the "Left"... no mention of "it's a woman's body"... Simply,.. he's for it on Libertarian grounds... and most civilized countries are for it... (an unusual justification for JOG)... (these same countries are anti gun, pro choice, and have a Nationalized health system)... Beats me,... but I don't see a political differential in the OP question... ... on the issue itself... you are barking up the wrong tree... [/quote] .............................................................................. Yep, I re-read it and I can't see where that all came from in JoG's original question. I sympathize with JoG's frustration (having asked a simple question), and I applaud 'Bot's diplomacy. Can I ask what peoples' personal experience with prostitutes is? If or how many they know, if they were ever a client, etc. That would be interesting. :) |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by raydawg on 01/01/16 at 15:19:50 Jog said: If it's Her body and she has the right to kill what is growing in her, then she SURELY has the right to rent it out. Actually, I support the legality of prostitution even IF abortion were, as I believe, should be illegal. Yes, it's just a different kind of work. I've rented myself out to many employers to accomplish many types of end goals. I certainly can't see how a society that embraces abortion and legalizes same sex marriage can get on a soapbox and decry it as immoral. By his statement above, I inferred, since he declared his opposition to abortion, that he was talking about democrats, who readily agree to its practice and funding..... My bad I reckon.... ;D Now jog, why on the one hand you celebrate the freedom of the constitution, then state you are against abortion? Doesn't the same reasoning of freedom extend that same argument? |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by raydawg on 01/01/16 at 15:51:41 5A4C5B465E4B465D290 wrote:
Hate to be a grammar Nazi,... but that sentence is unintelligible, and incomplete... I have no idea what you are asking... Besides that... ::) 2D3234332E2918281820323E75470 wrote:
[/quote] Great, while you nailing it, explain to him how the twin towers fell on 911. If you can do that then I will get on my hands and knees and bow to you ;D |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Serowbot on 01/01/16 at 16:20:19 I got this... They fell,... ...down... ;) |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by MnSpring on 01/01/16 at 16:48:07 JOG: Prostitution, Legal or not? It is a very complicated question and has many variables, and diapers. (Depends) But if only two answers available, Legal. Reasoning: It is already happening. The Most money is made by Pimps, not Hookers. No taxes are being paid on that money. The practice, is more, ‘crime’ ridden than most other, ‘businesses’. Now look at, ‘Drugs’. At one time, Heroin, Opium, Marijuana, etc were, legal! A person could also get Poisons over the counter. In fact, deadly ‘poisons’, (of today), were once Prescribed by Doctors ! (Just run down to the local drug store, buy some powered Arsenic, tell them you have a rat problem, sprinkle some on a donut, give it to you spouse, and when the the police come, say, ‘Gee I don’t Know what happened, I just gave, him/her a Donut’) Of course not possible today, with the advance in Sciences. Then, they were, Illegal. Who profited? People who don’t pay taxes on those profits. Crime. And all sorts of NEW, ‘designer’ drugs came about. (What if, drugs were, legal, would the crime associated with that, ’trade’ dry up) ? Now to learn: Booze, was legal. Their were some problems. Then it became, Illegal then their were more problems. (More Crime). Then it became Legal again, and less problems. Can we learn? So with Prostitution. Would making it, Legal, make at, ‘acceptable’ ? Would their be, More, “Pretty Woman”, type Hookers. or less. Would their be less, Crime, and exploited, women/men associated with it, (I think yes). Would the guberment, with new rules and regulation and licensing, take FAR much more, than necessary? (I believe yes) But, it is worth a try. Just like, ‘legal’ drugs. But, as in the case of, Prostitution, It, CAN, be legal, in a heartbeat. Anywhere in Any State/County ! No one, (State) has done in yet. outside of one. So Many, ‘Depends’. Their needs to be a Woman’s view on this Subject. I know many Women, on this list, read this, ‘forum’, but don’t comment, because their are afraid, of not, Manually, correcting, the, ‘Auto-Correct’, spelling of their post. And, (Heavens Forbid), if they put a, ‘comma’, in the wrong place. (according to some). I say to the Women on this list: ‘Do NOT be afraid to state your views, State them, and Ignore the grammar/spelling, comments”. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by HovisPresley on 01/01/16 at 16:57:19 6D4E735052494E47200 wrote:
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by jcstokes on 01/01/16 at 18:47:06 At least fifty per cent of the commercial heterosexual sex industry would collapse overnight if married or partnered men didn't use it. Why do they find it necessary to use it? This would happen whether the industry was decriminalised, as is mainly the case in New Zealand, or whether brothel keeping was still illegal. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Serowbot on 01/01/16 at 21:43:31 Even steak with lobster gets old eventually... :-X |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by WebsterMark on 01/02/16 at 05:39:45 486F766973507265736C6579000 wrote:
...................................................................... :o [/quote] Yea I'm with Grammar Nazi on this one. I'm throwing a BS flag. You're gonna have to show me the replay on that alllegation. "Many women" means 4 or 5 at least. Nazi hasn't been around long and there were no women before. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by raydawg on 01/02/16 at 07:21:03 625057464150477854475E350 wrote:
...................................................................... :o [/quote] Yea I'm with Grammar Nazi on this one. I'm throwing a BS flag. You're gonna have to show me the replay on that alllegation. "Many women" means 4 or 5 at least. Nazi hasn't been around long and there were no women before. [/quote] Well maybe this should tell us something guys...... Ya know, its not like its as easy for them to pizz into the wind like us'ns ;D |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/02/16 at 12:01:10 I didn't see any Why Not That had any merit. I don't see how anyone could oppose it, if we just look at party position. Left says It's her body. Right says Ohh boy, more money earned to tax, more regulations to enforce. Libertarians, no problem. The argument that Well, ugly nasty skanky whores will be trying to sell me something. Well, that happens now. It could get ugly. What a gutless approach to liberty. Life IS ugly. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by pg on 01/02/16 at 17:12:31 I can't believe someone hasn't posted this yet. They do call it "the world's oldest profession" for a reason. :-? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/02/16 at 17:55:07 I didn't know that politicians and lawyers were first on the scene, but it Does kinda make sense. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Serowbot on 01/02/16 at 18:03:20 3027212D2232400 wrote:
Eve was charging two apples for every peach... ;D |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by thumperclone on 01/02/16 at 21:29:13 I didn't bother reading 6 pages of replies ill just add my experience I was stationed in the FRG in the 70s had the taxi driver take me to a legal state controlled facility(ranch?) paid my 20$ and got serviced.. condom required saw the red light district in Amsterdam didn't use is cause I brought my own date |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Paraquat on 01/04/16 at 09:09:44 6771667B63767B60140 wrote:
And she still took half of Adam's apple. --Steve |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Serowbot on 01/04/16 at 09:46:31 Prior to Eve, was Lilith... she tried to swipe his nuts.... ;D |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by jcstokes on 01/04/16 at 15:24:32 I thought killing people was the oldest profession, but I could be wrong. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by WebsterMark on 01/05/16 at 06:50:35 Cheap wrote: Mark, have you ever considered the possibility that sometimes banning morally questionable things, practically speaking, makes things worse cough: Prohibition :cough. Do you prefer people drinking booze, or people fighting and killing each other for it? Do you prefer for johns to go to the dangerous underground for their fix or to do it legally? Theft is morally questionable yet I'm not going to suggest legalizing it... Every law addressing one person's behavior towards another is some form of legislating morality. My main point is if this is legalized, nothing will get better. Young girls will be further exploited. No 50 year old woman is going to look back and say "Gee, I'm glad I was a sleeper at 19". |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by pg on 01/05/16 at 07:30:12 605255444352457A56455C370 wrote:
:-/ Maybe you didn't have enough coffee this morning. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by WebsterMark on 01/05/16 at 07:38:22 Maybe not enough..... We got a Kurrig coffee maker for Christmas. Kinda handy, but nothing like a big pot of coffee to start off the morning with... |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by pg on 01/05/16 at 07:40:37 Are they any good? I went to the store and their were more of those than the regular drip kind? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by cheapnewb24 on 01/05/16 at 08:10:43 576562737465724D61726B000 wrote:
Yeah, Mark, You need some more coffee :P Theft is a totally different thing. It violates the rights of others. One of the most important functions of government is to enforce the individual rights of the people by punishing people when they hurt each other. We are talking about prostitution, something that totally and completely follows the will of both parties. Not talking about abuses here, but adults doing as they wish. Maybe the prostitute did it from economic pressure? Who knows? Still, it is done willingly. Innocent people who are robbed, raped, beaten, and murdered are not done that way because they wanted it. :( |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by cheapnewb24 on 01/05/16 at 08:16:07 516364757263744B67746D060 wrote:
Actually, she might. ;) She might not put it that way, though. The truth of the matter is that some might brag about it, ;D especially if they were especially successful. ;) |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by cheapnewb24 on 01/05/16 at 08:19:27 497B7C6D6A7B6C537F6C751E0 wrote:
Meh, them things are too expensive. :P How much do you pay for those little bitty cartridges? We've been using the stovetop percolator since our last machine broke. Now that's Cheap! ;D ;) |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by WebsterMark on 01/05/16 at 08:53:28 5D4A4C404F5F2D0 wrote:
yea, I think the coffee is better. Plus, sometimes i just want one large cup and that's easier to do. . However, the newer ones have this optic mechanism that detects if it's an official Kurrig coffee packet. but you can trick it and use any packet by cutting the top off one official packet and attaching it over the optics so all it sees is the Kurrig label all the time. ton of you tube videos how to do it. I did it and it works fine. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by WebsterMark on 01/05/16 at 08:56:02 Meh, them things are too expensive. Tongue How much do you pay for those little bitty cartridges? We've been using the stovetop percolator since our last machine broke. Now that's Cheap! Grin Wink Nope, see above. You can buy a refillable packet and trick the machine into thinking it's one of theirs. You then fill it with folgers or whatever brand you want. We actually use less coffee now because before we made a full pot in the morning and didn't always drink it. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by WebsterMark on 01/05/16 at 08:59:18 303B3632233D3624316167530 wrote:
Actually, she might. ;) She might not put it that way, though. The truth of the matter is that some might brag about it, ;D especially if they were especially successful. ;) [/quote] I watched a special on HBO years ago about prostitution. I remember they were talking to this sleeper who said she was proud of her job, life etc.... They asked her to recount her first paid experience. She started talking about it but then unexpectedly broke down in the middle. She gathered herself and continued on with her fake story about how great the life was but the reality had been exposed. it's dirty, ugly and destroys her self worth. She gets used by men and discarded. Again, is that the life you want for your daughter, grand daughter? |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Paraquat on 01/05/16 at 09:30:51 That's your first mistake. If I make more coffee than fits in my cups, I drink it on the spot. Coffee is my vice. I just bought a little grinder. I've been making freshly ground coffee with orange zest. The original recipe was orange zest, cinnamon, and vanilla extract but the vanilla drowned the flavors and the cinnamon clogged my filter baskets. Regular auto drip most mornings. I have a French Press if I want to treat myself. --Steve |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by WebsterMark on 01/05/16 at 09:57:05 Caffeine is the most addictive drug ever and its a real, physical addiction, but it's also the safest of all addictions. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by Paraquat on 01/05/16 at 11:08:00 True that. I drink just over 6 cups a day. If I drink any after 12:00 noon I won't be able to sleep properly. If I'm dragging my go-to is black tea. If I don't drink coffee on Saturday, more so than Sunday, I get headaches. One was crippling where I had to pull over and let my girlfriend drive until I could get a Coke-a-Cola. I'm strict about consuming only water, tea, and coffee but in that instance I needed the caffeine so badly I had to cave. --Steve |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/05/16 at 12:24:11 7F4D4A5B5C4D5A65495A43280 wrote:
Actually, she might. ;) She might not put it that way, though. The truth of the matter is that some might brag about it, ;D especially if they were especially successful. ;) [/quote] I watched a special on HBO years ago about prostitution. I remember they were talking to this sleeper who said she was proud of her job, life etc.... They asked her to recount her first paid experience. She started talking about it but then unexpectedly broke down in the middle. She gathered herself and continued on with her fake story about how great the life was but the reality had been exposed. it's dirty, ugly and destroys her self worth. She gets used by men and discarded. Again, is that the life you want for your daughter, grand daughter?[/quote] I've met women broke down talking about an abortion. I've met people who had deep heartache over some of lifes decisions. People have the right to make mistakes, even if those mistakes create regret. I maintain that prostitution, though unsavory, should be legal. Theft is morally questionable yet I'm not going to suggest legalizing it... Every law addressing one person's behavior towards another is some form of legislating morality. Theft is morally Questionable? How can you compare? Is purchasing also morally Questionable.? Is rape morally Questionable? My main point is if this is legalized, nothing will get better. You know that how? Define better. Young girls will be further exploited. Explain why. No 50 year old woman is going to look back and say "Gee, I'm glad I was a sleeper at 19". You don't have a clue about that. How many women have graduated college by selling it? women pay for college by prostitution There, just copy, search. |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by cheapnewb24 on 01/05/16 at 22:16:30 I'm really making a reference to the kind of people who like to sleep around and are proud of how good they are in bed and like to brag about it and use the fact to sleep around even more. In other words-- THE KIND THAT SLEEP AROUND, BRAG ABOUT IT AND ENJOY THAT LIFESTYLE. I won't use any colorful terms. ;) But, hey, what do I know? (Probably not much) ;). Are you getting my point now? :-? It's about that type of person. Any disagreements? Comments? :-? |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by cheapnewb24 on 01/05/16 at 22:18:11 Of course, things could change once they are being paid for it. :-? |
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Title: Re: Prostitution should be legal. Post by jcstokes on 01/05/16 at 23:21:26 Legal or not, moral or not. It has been around for thousands of years, probably before Christ, Krishna, Budda, Allah, Jahveh and other deities. It's probably going to be around until the end of humans on earth. Criminalising it doesn't stop it. |
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