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Message started by strang on 08/30/15 at 14:39:22

Title: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by strang on 08/30/15 at 14:39:22

I am thinking of rewiring around a central fuse block. I have used it on another bike with success (xs650) but I'm a bit stuck as to how the ignitor will work on the Savage. The "Simplified/Chopper Wiring Diagram" runs a diagram with a 2 wire ignitor but the factory wiring diagram shows a 6 wire? What's the 2 wire ignitor about? Or how do I wire in the 6 wire ignitor to the this diagram? (wire colours are just mock up, obviously)

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by Serowbot on 08/30/15 at 14:50:25

We have a fuse block?... :-/...

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by verslagen1 on 08/30/15 at 15:02:52

Are you disabling the decomp solenoid?
If yes, then four wires will do ya.

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by Tiki on 08/30/15 at 15:03:02

Quick question:

What is the name of this part and is it waterproof?
http://i59.tinypic.com/2mgqxx4.jpg

I want to relocate stuff and rewire my entire harness to clean everything up ::)

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by verslagen1 on 08/30/15 at 15:39:09

rectifier, yes, connector, no.

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by HovisPresley on 08/30/15 at 15:40:00

That's the regulator/rectifier.

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by strang on 08/30/15 at 15:44:50

Hovis: regulator and the unit itself (grey/black thing) is pretty much waterproof ie. you don't have to stick it completely hidden away under the seat. New triumphs run it on the front of the bike even.
Vers: Yes have sorted out manual decomp.
So, down to 4 wires, my diagram has 2 coming off - how do I square the circle?

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by verslagen1 on 08/30/15 at 15:57:19

565157444B42250 wrote:

So, down to 4 wires, my diagram has 2 coming off - how do I square the circle?

correction, your diagram has 3 wires coming off.
The 4th wire is from the starter to retard timing.

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by strang on 08/31/15 at 03:19:53

yes sorry 3 wires.
deleted non essential wires?:

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by strang on 08/31/15 at 03:20:33

into fuse block diagram

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by verslagen1 on 08/31/15 at 07:25:09

I'm not sure if those "extra" wires need to be tied up or down.
I would check their function before deleting them.

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by strang on 08/31/15 at 11:00:44

Safer to do this?

I got my colours mixed up previously, my eyes are not the best.

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by verslagen1 on 08/31/15 at 11:37:05

Just checked another wiring diagram... those 2 wires are important.
So you need all 6 wires.

http://www.savageriders.com/verslagen/Circuits/96-04-ig-starter.JPG

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by strang on 08/31/15 at 11:46:28

what's the "pickup coil"?

Having re-read all the tech docs this is the most informative:

1997 Ignitor

1: Black/Yellow tracer -> ignition coil;
2: Black -> starter relay
3: no wire
4: no wire
5: Orange/White tracer -> ignition coil & kill/start switch = (+ 12V in)
6: Green -> magneto pickup coil/crank sensor
7: Orange -> magneto pickup coil/crank sensor
8: Black/White tracer -> ground

Wish "vroom1776" was still around as he seems to have cracked it at some point.

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by verslagen1 on 08/31/15 at 11:59:12

787F796A656C0B0 wrote:

what's the "pickup coil"?

That thing that tells your sparkplug to go "spitz"

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by strang on 08/31/15 at 12:08:25

I know the ignition coil obviously but sorry still don't know what part is the "pickup coil" or "crank sensor". I'll have another look at my bike tomorrow and look for the green and orange wires. ;)

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by verslagen1 on 08/31/15 at 12:21:36

It's the electronic equivalent of points.

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by strang on 09/01/15 at 08:07:32

Had a look at my bike and the wires going from the CDI to the "pickup coil" are headed to the alternator/stator. I presume it's incorporated.
Today I was still having problems with gremlins in my stock wiring loom so am going to rip it out and try this diagram.
Wish me luck. Will document.

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by strang on 09/01/15 at 13:46:14

If someone with the knowledge could once this over then that would be most helpful as I am gonna start wiring it up in the morning.

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by strang on 09/02/15 at 03:26:24

from http://www.ls650.eu/community/

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by strang on 09/02/15 at 13:56:07

Stripped down the stock harness today; removed all that tightly wrapped electrical tape. Took quite a long time - fook me, how sticky is that shite?
Found a ton of connections sitting under there, multiple earths and whatnot, just crimped together. Quite prone to gremlins if your loom has been off the bike for a bit. Not too impressed with Suzuki's workmanship having seen what's under all that gooey tape. :o

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by strang on 09/13/15 at 12:55:56

left side switches

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by strang on 09/13/15 at 12:57:21

right side switches - starter/headlight cut-out switch is pretty clever.

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by verslagen1 on 09/13/15 at 22:59:20

I've looked over your diagram and made a few changes.

Title: Re: fuse block Wiring Diagram
Post by strang on 09/14/15 at 05:30:21

thanks verslagen, very helpful.
have amended my previous R and L switch diagrams, had messed up the input/outputs destinations. All good now.