|
SuzukiSavage.com
/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> Why all the hate? /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1435091278 Message started by Pine on 06/23/15 at 13:27:58 |
|
Title: Why all the hate? Post by Pine on 06/23/15 at 13:27:58 Shheesh.... So its fricking hard to buy a truck with a standard transmission!!! And even when the maker says they offer it... its so limited as to what you have to buy to get it.. that practically.. you can't. This is depressing. |
|
Title: Re: Why all the hate? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/23/15 at 15:04:41 My feelings, exactly. BUT, a guy I know and trust, who also likes a standard, told me that the automatic transmission s out now will actually out pull a standard. No, not ALL the automatic transmission s, but they are out there. Me? I just like changing gears. I miss vent windows, kick panel vents. The guy I mentioned has a Ram, diesel, firrst gear, come off the clutch easy and roll, no gas. |
|
Title: Re: Why all the hate? Post by pgambr on 06/23/15 at 15:21:44 Yep, I found that out a couple years ago. Ford quit selling a manual in their f-150 in 08. :-[ Best regards, |
|
Title: Re: Why all the hate? Post by Ed L. on 06/23/15 at 19:34:13 With all the smart phones, fast foods and a babe in the front seat can't see how anybody has an extra hand to shift a manual anymore. ;) Automatics are the best thing that have happened to distracted drivers. Miss a good 4 speed on the back of a worked chevy 350. ;) |
|
Title: Re: Why all the hate? Post by Pine on 06/24/15 at 06:04:02 7F6066617C7B4A7A4A72606C27150 wrote:
Me? I just like changing gears. I miss vent windows, kick panel vents. this just this.... Also .. they may be out there.. but FORD does NOT have them... been there done that. PS: Sometimes, after riding the bike to work several days in a row.. I find myself downshifting the truck...er... I know... silly |
|
Title: Re: Why all the hate? Post by Paraquat on 06/24/15 at 06:04:59 For many years, the cars I liked to race, the only option for holding power was a standard. Now there are new clutch packs and mods to run full line pressure. People have even hacked the TCU to change shift points and use different maps for racing or for street use on the fly. Having driven both down the drag strip I'll take a standard. There's no challenge with an auto. You mash the pedal and then sit there. Where's the fun in that? --Steve |
|
Title: Re: Why all the hate? Post by Serowbot on 06/24/15 at 06:30:53 Of course we're mechanical Luddites,...we ride Savages... ;D... My 95' Metro, has manual tranny, manual steering, cable operated clutch, roll up windows, and no car alarm... it even has an ash tray... I'm gonna' run it into the ground... ;D... |
|
Title: Re: Why all the hate? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/24/15 at 21:20:47 5A63646F7E65780A0 wrote:
Me? I just like changing gears. I miss vent windows, kick panel vents. this just this.... Also .. they may be out there.. but FORD does NOT have them... been there done that. PS: Sometimes, after riding the bike to work several days in a row.. I find myself downshifting the truck...er... I know... silly [/quote] Man, ain't a thing wrong with downshifting a truck. As long as you slip into neutral, goose it to synch , clutch, shift, and, off the clutch. Lots quicker and easier on the synchronizers. Works on a five speed Mack, heck, no clutch on a lot of shifts. In fact, I drove from a location pulling a oilfield trailer..18 wheeler, sitting out in the nowheres, I was last out, stepped on the clutch and something broke.. years before cell phones, Got air up, pushed the buttons, pulled the kill and jerked it into gear, shoved in the kill and mashed the gas. Fun drive back to town. Those trucks took such a beating. |
|
Title: Re: Why all the hate? Post by govnor on 07/02/15 at 22:49:07 New cars suck for the most part. A truck with a stick? Forget it! The last one I bought was a new 2007 (I think, may have been '06) Toyota Tacoma 4 cyl Prerunner with a 5 speed manual. They also made the 4wd in manual. I have a Tundra now and the auto trans had major problems before 100k miles. In cars there are a few small sports cars that come with a REAL stickshift: Scion is one...the tc and the frs which is a really cool car. The Honda Civic Si comes ONLY in manual shift, which I think is great. Mazda MX-5 (miata) still comes in a stick. I own one of the old ones and it's lots of fun. I have read that the Chevy Colorado does come with a 6 speed manual (believe it when I see it). They are supposed to be offering a 4 cyl diesel version and 4wd. If that's the case I know what I want: 4 cylinder diesel, 6 speed manual 4wd, black on black! Where do I place my order? |
|
Title: Re: Why all the hate? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/03/15 at 07:41:07 Australia has some really nice little pickups. But, we can't get those, either. And importing to them is awful , too. Sell an Aussie a modern bike and import tariffs will eat it up. But, heres some of why we dont get what we want. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax I, too, just prefer a standard. I feel like im actually the equipment operator. |
|
Title: Re: Why all the hate? Post by Kris01 on 07/03/15 at 15:33:50 Have to work a clutch pedal, a gear shift AND talk on a cell phone while eating lunch? Forget it! It's hard enough for these morons to have to turn the steering wheel and work a gas pedal. The world is just too lazy for the manufacturers to build and sell manuals anymore. Besides, in todays view, driving a manual means you couldn't afford an automatic. We can't have the neighbors thinking we're poor and work for a living, can we? :o I, too, prefer a manual but an automatic in traffic, especially after a long, hard day at work, can be a lot easier to drive. |
|
Title: Re: Why all the hate? Post by govnor on 07/06/15 at 07:25:57 3F2026213C3B0A3A0A32202C67550 wrote:
It's amazing how few people know about this. Then again, most people don't want to drive a small pickup truck, but this is the reason they no longer exist in the US. I guess part of it is lack of demand, but you can't tell me there aren't millions of lawn guys out there that wouldn't like the option. Especially when gas goes up to $4 a gallon. |
|
Title: Re: Why all the hate? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/06/15 at 09:50:42 I know about a lot of stuff most don't. Most spend a lot or time telling me I'm wrong. |
|
Title: Re: Why all the hate? Post by Sonny on 07/08/15 at 08:49:37 Driving my cage ('05 Sentra 1.8L 4) on the freeways of Dallas, an experience akin to being a duck in a shooting gallery, I love my auto o/d transmission. I can keep full attention on the madness around me with hands on the wheel. The way I drive I get crazy good mileage, too. It is a fantastic, trouble-free car. But the car has power windows, with no option even back in 2005 for manual roll-ups. They work perfectly. But they will betray me some day, and it will be raining, and it will be on a Sunday. Me no like-ey. For many years I drove a '64 F100 pickup, three on the tree, with a clutch spring so hard that after an hour of stop and go traffic my left leg was trembling like a beaten dog. My left leg was so big I walked lopsided. And driving with a Big Gulp, lighting a cigarette with the phone ringing could be a challenge. That was enough manual truck trans for me. But I believe in freedom of choice, so Ford, give these guys a manual! |
|
Title: Re: Why all the hate? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/08/15 at 10:49:31 Repairing power windows usually isn't that hard. First, check power to the switch, because every open/ close cycle flexes the wires. Really, checking power to the motor is the quick check. That proves the wire and switch. But, if you can move the window by hand, you just proved the regulator is bad. Be very cool with the plastic lugs glued to the window. A pair of C clamp design vise grips with cut off fingers from leather gloves, a rag to protect paint on the top of the door. This will hold the window up. They're usually riveted in, but bolts will usually work. You don't wanna buy that rivet gun. Yes, electric Windows eventually fail. Manual fail, too. |
|
Title: Re: Why all the hate? Post by Kris01 on 07/08/15 at 16:41:11 627E7F727E7D110 wrote:
Had an '89 F150 XLT Lariat 300 inline 6/5-speed at work like that. This truck barely had any paint. The interior was ripped and faded. The suspension virtually useless. The shifter would move probably a foot and a half before it engaged any gear. However, you couldn't kill it. It ran like a top. My left leg would shake like I had nerve problems from the clutch being so stiff. Best (and raggediest) truck we ever had! |
|
Title: Re: Why all the hate? Post by Sonny on 07/08/15 at 18:24:02 7F465D470405340 wrote:
I heard that. Driving them takes muscle and wrestling skill, but. They keep going. My three on the tree shifter finally got shot beyond repair, so I cut a hole in the trans hump and bolted in a floor shifter. When I got it for $600, the '64 was rusted all over and every part of the truck was loose and worn to Sanford&Son level. I half-heartedly sanded the worst of the rust, bought a gallon of white Rust-Oleum, mixed in 1/2 little bottle of blue Testor's model airplane enamel, and painted it with a brush. Robin's egg blue. One gallon came out perfect. Then I just drove it and only tuned it and fixed what broke, which was never anything serious. My truck had the Ford 223 straight 6. What a great mill. There was so much room under the hood that almost any kind of work was a pleasure. Everything fit the definition of "basic". The vehicle was designed to be owner serviced. I hated parting with it, but at the time I had to up my image as a yard work and home repair guy. I got a used '95 Nissan Hardbody, a good truck itself which burned a bit less gas and looked sharper, but never had the character of the F-truck. |
|
Title: Re: Why all the hate? Post by Kris01 on 07/08/15 at 18:31:50 425E5F525E5D310 wrote:
You can almost give up that dream these days. |
|
Title: Re: Why all the hate? Post by Sonny on 07/08/15 at 18:43:53 An old friend came thru town and showed me a Porsche Boxster he had bought for his girlfriend. "Wow, lemme see the engine," I says. "You can't. Everything has to be done from underneath with the car on a lift," he says. "You are s&^%%ing me," I says. No. He was serious. |
|
Title: Re: Why all the hate? Post by Kris01 on 07/08/15 at 18:50:25 I think it may be Porsche that you have to jack up the engine to change the plugs. |
|
Title: Re: Why all the hate? Post by Paraquat on 07/09/15 at 13:57:42 Work on a VW lately? --Steve |
|
Title: Re: Why all the hate? Post by Pine on 07/15/15 at 06:45:43 7B736A72736E1C0 wrote:
Love it!!! My currenr ride is the 2009 Tacoma Prerunner - 4cyl, 5 speed. Not as good on gas as I had hoped... but it sure gets the job done in every other dept. Plan is to keep it going as long as possible. |
|
Title: Re: Why all the hate? Post by Art Webb on 07/15/15 at 10:17:36 3A252324393E0F3F0F37252962500 wrote:
They've gotten around that, the Japanese makers just buy American trucks and rebadge them, or build them here Toyota has, or had plant here for decades, dunno if it's still here or not On manuals: love them on Sports cars on back roads,love them on a truck when I'm pulling stumps or towing something, other than that, I am more than happy to never own one in a car ort truck again, I HATE driving in traffic, or on the freeway, with a manual, an auto is not only easier, it transmits less NVH, and makes for a more pleasant drive If I want 'connectedness' with my vehicle, I'll get on the bike, when I'm in a cage, I want AC, power steering, cup holders, and no gears to shift Also, on the slab, I want CRUISE CONTROL ;D |
|
SuzukiSavage.com » Powered by YaBB 2.2! YaBB © 2000-2007. All Rights Reserved. |