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Message started by Neilap on 06/05/15 at 17:23:25

Title: Seafoam?
Post by Neilap on 06/05/15 at 17:23:25

How many have you used it? I just splashed a bit in my tank and after riding about 20 minutes my effective pull in 5th gear has went from 43ish area to 35. And by that i mean the lowest speed i can be and pull without getting that rough 'THUMP THUMP THUMP' sesnsayion of the engine struggling. And it looks that iv used a bit less gas on my normal work commute.

Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/05/15 at 17:43:50

35 in fifth? Not my idea of the way to run it.
A Splash? How big of a splash?

I tried about every kind of injector cleaner on my backhoe but until I got the Seafoam one injector made an unnerving Clack.
It's the only fuel additive I use other than storage type stuff.

Why did you need to add it?
It will treat about 20 gallons,I think, so, really, do the math.

Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by Kris01 on 06/05/15 at 17:44:58

I don't really see it being that effective. Nothing beats opening the carb and actually cleaning it.

Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by Serowbot on 06/05/15 at 17:46:26

Up that shift to 5th to 45 or 50mph... it's not good for your engine to lug it...

Seafoam?... personally, not a fan...it's a kerosine, mineral oil, and rubbing alcohol mix...
Careful with it, or you'll gas wash your cylinder... :-?...

Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/05/15 at 17:58:54

IDK what it does, BUT, it's the ONLY additive that stopped the fuel injector on my backhoe from making a very scary noise.

That said,as Row said, it's not a long term or high ratio good idea.
The guy who rebuilt the injector s told me that Seafoam decreases lubricity
and will hurt the diesel pump and injectors over time. He didn't say
Don't
He said sparingly and short term.
If you have a clogged jet, you'll need tools,not a can of Seafoam.

Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by pgambr on 06/05/15 at 17:59:43

I know I'm probably the only one, but I use Lucas top end lubricant.  I get 5 more mpg.  A buddy who is a mechanic swears by using Rotella and Lucas top end.

Best regards,

Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by Serowbot on 06/05/15 at 18:18:38

Snake oil, is snake oil...

I won't say don't,... I'll just say, I wouldn't... :-X...


Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 06/05/15 at 18:21:03


634844414C5D2D0 wrote:
How many have you used it? I just splashed a bit in my tank and after riding about 20 minutes my effective pull in 5th gear has went from 43ish area to 35. And by that i mean the lowest speed i can be and pull without getting that rough 'THUMP THUMP THUMP' sesnsayion of the engine struggling. And it looks that iv used a bit less gas on my normal work commute.



Sounds like you were looking for a result...and you found one. The placebo effect.

Seafoam is an ok product, but it's not magical. Lots of people give way too much credit to such snake oils. It's just an expensive and nicely packaged kerosine. Like Kris said, nothing beats a good old fashioned cleaning.

Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by Neilap on 06/05/15 at 18:33:48

And by a splash i mean 1/10th the can if even that much. And as for the placebo effect im only compairing fuel usage and where it pulls at (i tide the same route to work each day 70 miles in total) i didnt get any more speed or accerlation lol. And i do use 5th at 45 (I was wondering if i got it right, i assumed if i felt vibration i was in too low of an rpm for the gear) i went through the gears after i had rode 25 miles and cruising on flat ground it wasnt lugging in 5th gear to accelerate from 45 and upwards it would go steady at 35 without acting like it didnt have power but i dodnt do it for long knowing that these engines cant run at a low rpm like a harley would, not enough oil being circulated. i get a steady 48 mpg on my work route. 38 to 40 if i ride on the interstate doing 70ish. I will return with my results after i get back home and fill my tank up and see if the next few days have a change in fuel consumption and then i will try to pass it up for tesults lol.

Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by Neilap on 06/05/15 at 18:35:25

Being a religious mpg freak and filling the bike as close as the same everytime i get 48.5-8 mpg on my route over the past 1,200 miles

Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by Dave on 06/05/15 at 18:45:26

I think some of those products are effective at removing deposits on fuel injector nozzles, and also for removing carbon deposits on the backside of the inlet valves.  I don't believe they are very effective on stuff that builds up in the float bowl or jets in a carb.

Techron was the product of choice for the German car groups to remove the hard carbon deposits.  I use Lucas a couple of times a year in my fuel injected cars.  I don't use anything in my carbuerated bikes.


Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/05/15 at 19:17:36


584741465B5C6D5D6D55474B00320 wrote:
IDK what it does, BUT, it's the ONLY additive that stopped the fuel injector on my backhoe from making a very scary noise.

That said,as Row said, it's not a long term or high ratio good idea.
The guy who rebuilt the injector s told me that Seafoam decreases lubricity
and will hurt the diesel pump and injectors over time. He didn't say
Don't
He said sparingly and short term.
If you have a clogged jet, you'll need tools,not a can of Seafoam.



Either type

JOG is a liar.
OR
Accept that I TRIED several fuel additives and injector cleaners
Because
My
Backhoe was making a scary , rod knocking scary noise.
SeafoamStopped that.
I don't know why,but it DID IT.
Okay,now, its not what everyone else is saying, so,pretend its invisible.
Ohh, I didn't do it once, but for a few months.
When I fueled up, I waited, it made noise, id dump in Seafoam, few minutes later, smooth right out.

Okay, back to all the others who have no
It helped me
Moment.

Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by verslagen1 on 06/05/15 at 20:47:42


515B5F555E57535A040206360 wrote:
Sounds like you were looking for a result...and you found one. The placebo effect.

Seafoam is an ok product, but it's not magical. Lots of people give way too much credit to such snake oils. It's just an expensive and nicely packaged kerosine. Like Kris said, nothing beats a good old fashioned cleaning.

Well it won't make your a$$ smell like flowers or your words sweet... nothing can help that   :-?

and yeah it's expensive, I've started using Beeman's instead.

but it will slick up a sticky slide, even made a fat boy purr... that may count as a low grade magic trick.   8-)

Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/05/15 at 21:16:18

Never heard of Beemans.
I have Berrymans.

Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by verslagen1 on 06/05/15 at 22:33:46


3D2224233E3908380830222E65570 wrote:
Never heard of Beemans.
I have Berrymans.

yeah, dat stuff... I was wantin' a piece of gum.

Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by Neilap on 06/06/15 at 17:05:15

Alright so. When i got home i refilled. Noted everything. I went to work on the 2lane and back on the interstate. With normal riding habots I came 0.13 gallons of what that trip usually would take. Im going to do more testing and see if i can come up with a definite anwer. For right now i could blame weather and humidity in the changes

Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by HondaLavis on 06/06/15 at 21:38:48

Seafoam is the only cleaner I bother with.  I've used it to soak things and watch deposits dissolve as well as running it through.

There's a guy on youtube that tested a whole lineup of fuel system cleaners: techron, STP, lucas, seafoam, etc.  He used different cars for each one, borescoping the top of the cylinder through the spark plug hole for a before and after comparison.  Granted, it isn't looking at the valves or injectors, but it's something.  Seafoam was the ONLY one in the lineup that made any appreciable difference in carbon buildup.

Just my $0.02, YMMV.

Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by Art Webb on 06/07/15 at 10:33:32

When my S40 sat up fopr a long time after I got a flat on it, I started it every week and let it Idle, but never revved on it
by the time I thought to, it wouldn't rev unless you rolled the throttle on very slowly
Seafoam, and run it once a day, rev on it
after a while it would rev normally
Might;ve been more frequent running, might;ve been the Seafom, either way, it rides well now  (needs re-jetting though)

Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by runwyrlph on 06/07/15 at 12:58:24

I use a little seafoam (like capful) in my 2 cycle engines (trimmer, chainsaw) each year with the first tank.  I can see the difference (i.e. chainsaw not running good, add a little sea-foam, it starts working better within a few minutes.  

I have used a little in the lawn mowers too, I think it helps.  


Neilap, I think you may be right.  My experience is that weather, humidity, pressure, etc. make a big difference in how the bike runs.  

(not that anybody asked....)
Another snakeoil that worked better than I expected was LUCAS power steering leak stopper.  About the begining of May,  I found the PS fluid in my Honda Odyssey van was low...added a bottle of NAPA PS fluid, 2 days later empty again,  seemed to be leaking out of the steering rack somewhere.  With 235,000 miles on an '02 I'm not about to spend a thousand or so on getting that fixed, so I figured what the heck.  Put a bottle of LUCAS in, and whaddaya know!  Reservoir is still full.  

Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/07/15 at 14:21:49

Run.

For the day when the seal s give up.

I watched enough to believe it is enough to get you through it.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=how+to+replace+power+steering+pump+2002+honda+odyssey+van&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=5C73144F8538A31BAF005C73144F8538A31BAF00


Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by Art Webb on 06/08/15 at 11:15:29

JOG he said the rack is leaking, not the pump
I'd DIY, as a rack still isn't a big deal on most cars, but I used to do dat shtuff for a living

Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/08/15 at 15:33:37

bummer, no way the rack is easier...
But U tube probably has it.

Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by runwyrlph on 06/08/15 at 19:18:08

Looks like you have to lift up the engine a little with a hoist, remove the engine mounts and drop the sub frame....YUCK!

The worst part is that I'm the guy who watches few youtube videos and says "oh yeah, I can do that"  - generally I get it done eventually, but always end up wishing I'd just payed to get it done.  I'm lucky enough to have a local independent shop that does good work for reasonable prices.  I just hate to put any multiple hundred dollar work into a car that could die of any number of things at any time, so i try to DIY it on the cheap ... (I spend a little time on the odyssey club forum too)

Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by Art Webb on 06/09/15 at 21:26:14

I definitely understand that, no way I'd drop 100s of bux in a car whose condition I didn't trust
then again, both my car and truck are older than your van, and the car has 300k on it  (ex taxi) and i just took it to San Marcos and back early this year (300 mile round trip)

To be fair, if it had blown up, I'da probably left it wherever it stopped  ;D

My Truck is a '96, and I'm fixin to drive it to North Carolina haulin two savages  (2000 mile round trip)
And my ex used to call me a pessimist  ;D

Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by Canadian_kiwi on 06/24/15 at 18:18:18

There's such controversy over sea foam etc if it works for ya be all means use it!

Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by MnSpring on 06/24/15 at 19:02:54

Sea-foam.
Of all the, ’Snake Oils’, I have used.
Sea-foam & Sta-Bil work for me.

4, 5 gal GI cans,  Three are reg 10-12% Water Crap gas,
used in the lawn mowers, which are run reg.

NON-OXY, is in one, it it is used in the S-40,
and all Oil/Gas mix things, and in the seldom used things.
Tillers/Snow blower/Generator.
Or ANYTHING that is  STORED.

In ALL of them, I put, a ‘cap’ full of sea foam in and 1/2 oz, of ’Sta-Bil’.
(Per 5 gal)
Works for me, and I have tried a lot of them.

Title: Re: Seafoam?
Post by chzeckmate on 06/25/15 at 11:57:31


6177607D65707D66120 wrote:
Up that shift to 5th to 45 or 50mph... it's not good for your engine to lug it...


I shift into 4th at 47-50.  4th for me starts to get sluggish below that.  I'll shift into 5th around 62-65.

There's a shift points thread that Neilap might be interested in here http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1378653517/6

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