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Title: Just Plaine sad. Post by MnSpring on 05/23/15 at 17:36:43 Hear is, 'King Bama', doing something, That your kids, or grand kids. Would get into serious trouble for, if they ever did this in school. Hmmm, he can do it, but no one else can ! |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by Kris01 on 05/23/15 at 21:35:03 "Leader of the Free World" posing and acting like James Bond? Not very dignifying. |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/23/15 at 21:48:50 IMO THIS is a Tall Table topic. And yeah, a kid at school do that and the System falls on them. And its STUPID. |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by Serowbot on 05/23/15 at 22:50:58 Yup,.. that's pretty poloticical... :-?... BTW... That was at a Coast Guard graduation,.. and the graduate there asked if he would pose with him, James Bond style... |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by WebsterMark on 05/24/15 at 06:00:26 I think the point is Sew is that if a high school kid did that, in certain blue states/cities, he'd be f'd..... and if Bush had done that, we would get a dozen variations of the brash Texan headline. On the other hand, I think most center and right of center people recognize 'liberal privilege' when they see it. By the way, I think I should copyright that term; "liberal privilege'. I've not read it before but with all the conversations going on about white privilege, I think perhaps we should point out the existence of liberal privilege. That's the right of lefties to say or do just about anything and escape the fallout in all but the most serious cases. And even then, you gotta do a lot to be a leftie and cross the line. |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by Serowbot on 05/24/15 at 08:04:35 615354454253447B57445D360 wrote:
I agree... Fingers aren't guns,... and all these "zero tolerance" policies are horsepucky... On the other political hand... It is usually the right side that sees everything in black and white,.. and see's everything as a "slippery slope"... "Liberal privilege",...isn't really privilege... If Julia Child picks up a knife, you will assume you're in for a tasty treat... If Charles Manson picks one up, you don't make that same assumption... Reputations precedes you... A liberal can get away with saying or doing certain things... A Conservative can get away with others... (fewer I will admit, but that again, is due to the conservative character... when you are the party of "black and white", you do fence yourself in a bit... Example... Obama makes a finger gun,.. and it is assumed to be done in good spirit...(and it is)... If Ted Nugent does the same, it obviously wouldn't be... On the other hand,.. if a tree hugger liberal waves a flag, it would assumed as protest by the right,... but a conservative can flag up anything and it's patriotic... Conservative privilege... It really is just reputation... Peace,... Muppet man.. :)... |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by Art Webb on 05/24/15 at 10:54:47 why wouldn't it be, in Nugent's case? I don't see a case there, conservatives don't actually have a rep for threatening folks via finger gun. It's just the gun hater / fearer crowd projecting their fear onto someone because that person champions gun rights and the folks on the other side have the idea (false) that it's because they want to run around shooting folks, which is a lie spread by the same crowd |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/24/15 at 12:27:39 Nugent is a deputy sheriff, you might not like who deputized him. He is anti drug, totally peaceful guy,, knows what the Constitution means and I would vote for him over any of the candidates I've seen. |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by jachase1980 on 05/24/15 at 13:54:59 i thought the only coast guard academy was in cape may |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/24/15 at 14:06:19 http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/04/21/army-cadets-on-campus-forced-to-wear-red-high-heels-and-raise-awareness-of-debunked-rape-culture/ Makes me wanna puke. |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by Serowbot on 05/24/15 at 14:53:15 Nugent's a draft dodging, cowardly, wimp, gun nut... ... and a canned game hunter... ... and a molester of under age girls... ... not to mention, and less than mediocre guitar player... :P... |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by MnSpring on 05/24/15 at 15:38:13 7F697E637B6E63780C0 wrote:
" ... draft dodging, cowardly, wimp ..." Where is your information on this? "... gun nut ..." And the problem is? " ... and a canned game hunter..." And the information on this is? " ... and a molester of under age girls..." Really ! Please ! Where did you get this information ! " ... and less than mediocre guitar player ...," OK, their have been better. |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by MnSpring on 05/24/15 at 15:44:19 Quote:
EXACTLY ! So then why, would you call, a, 'knife', a 'Weapon'. if it has not been used as one ? |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by MnSpring on 05/24/15 at 15:54:31 Let’s see: “He, picked up his, ‘WEAPON’, and Spread butter, then jelly, on his toast” Is it a, ‘WEAPON”, or a knife ? |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by pgambr on 05/24/15 at 16:02:38 There is most definitively a "liberal privilege" which is extended to those in the left. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/24/boston-university-prof-at-center-racist-tweet-flap-was-charged-with-felony-id/ She's a real peach. How about Bill Ayers. In 1969 he co-founded the Weather Underground, a self-described communist revolutionary group that conducted a campaign of bombing public buildings including police stations, the U.S. Capitol Building, and the Pentagon. It is truly disturbing these individuals are in a position to have an influence on younger generations. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by MnSpring on 05/24/15 at 16:48:27 Quote:
Is it not, ‘OUR’ Responsibility, To TELL, these institutions, that that is, NOT, accepted behavior? Or are, ‘Pizza and TV re-runs’, more important? |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by Serowbot on 05/24/15 at 18:39:41 5D7E436062797E77100 wrote:
Just Google it... "Nugent, statutory rape",... Nugent, draft dodger"... etc... I've heard Ted bragging about draft dodging on video from his younger days... ...and,.. ever listen to the lyrics of his songs?... Quote from Ted Nugent's - Jailbait "Well I dont care if youre just thirteen You look too good to be true I just know that youre probably clean Theres one lil' thing I got do to you" Don't be defending this guy... it only tarnishes you...:-[.. Faux News sure ain't gonna' tell ya'''. They're too busy telling you Obama is a Kenyon, Muslim, Climate change ain't real, Saddam had WMD's and planned 911, Reagan lowered yer' taxes, and Rush and Nugent are "Great Americans"... ... ;D... Thus concludes my quarterly venture into the right-wing love fest we call the "Tall Table"... This pot is stirred... ;D... Peace, Serowmuppet ... ;D... |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/24/15 at 19:14:09 I won't defend child molestation, but draft dodging,, ohh,, once upon a time I would have been incensed,, but knowing what I know now, nope.. |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by WebsterMark on 05/24/15 at 20:13:32 MnSpring, you've met Sew I see.... He jumps in once a month or so, talks smack, leaves when the heat getss too much. Facts and logic act on him like sunlight on a vampire. Look for him to reappear around the 4th of July. |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by Serowbot on 05/24/15 at 20:19:25 Facts are... he dodged the draft, he had sex with girls under the age, and he does canned game hunts... Facts don't hurt me a bit... it's BS and denial that sends me to hither... I pipe in because I do like you guys here... ...but a half dozen to one gets tiring... and I have better things to do... Peace be amongst you,... Serow |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by WebsterMark on 05/24/15 at 20:40:03 There's nothing true in your anti-fox rant, but see, that's liberal privilege. The accepted truth of the cultural left is all that crap you just said. You'd fit in real well at an Oscars telecast, I wouldnt. see you again around the 4th.... |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by WebsterMark on 05/24/15 at 20:46:27 And speaking about climate change.... There's only one fact everyone can agree on: the temperature predicted we would be experiencing today is no where near what it actually is...... |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/24/15 at 22:20:57 I won't dodge the issues. If he did play with little girls, he is wrong for that. I'm guessing Canned hunt means that he shoots trapped animals, Id be unhappy with that. Dodge the draft? My opinion on that change after I learned war is a racket Smedley Buttler Sad to say, innit, that ill still take him, over the other options, even if you are spot on? |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by Serowbot on 05/25/15 at 00:43:44 Webster,... you will neither draw me in nor scare me away from anything... ...your assumed and delusionary victories are a fantasy of ego... You simply make me see the futility of any intellectual discourse with your focus on winning, rather than offering any rational opposing view.. ... and I won't waste my time with you... To everyone else with whom I disagree... I believe you all to be upstanding... but I would beg to disagree intellectually with the policies that would better society... And I believe that you all understand me to be a respectful person, even when we disagree... JOG,.. has dispute with my condemnation of Mr.Nugent's draft dodging... ... but, I think he understands that I only point this out as a character flaw in Nugent in particular, as it is a hypocrisy to his personal gung-ho, macho, persona,...and not to condemn all who disagreed with the war on moral, ethical, political rationales, rather than cowardess... I was against that war... my father did tour there in 1969-70... and I would have been drafted, and served, had the draft not been discontinued just months before I graduated... but, by then the war had ended... As it was,.. I grew up military, and attended 10 different schools in 8 cities and 3 different countries in my 12 years of pre-college schooling... (I'd had enough of losing friends and being shifted around,... so I really just wanted to settle into one place... a further military life did not appeal)... but, I would not have made a cowards choice, if had come to that... Nugent, didn't serve, because he was a coward... Peace, Serow... |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by WebsterMark on 05/25/15 at 05:48:45 Your flaw, as is normal, is saying I don't offer rational opposing views when I do, it's just you run away rather than face the music. So of course I scare you away, but that's what lefties do, complain, lob accusations and run. Regarding Ted, I don't have much of opinion about him. Never a big fan. Honestly never looked into his war record or lack thereof. Calling him a flat out coward is pretty rough, you better be sure. |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by WebsterMark on 05/25/15 at 05:55:12 So I read up on Ted's draft history. It's as usual, not exactly as you make it out to be. I guess my first question to you Sew is will you going forward refer to Bill Clinton as a coward? 2nd question would be will you refer to any song writer who makes references to underage girls as child molesters? |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by Serowbot on 05/25/15 at 06:31:47 No,.. and no... " And by the way, Webster... I don't "scare", and "run away"... Your grade school taunts... are a small, and childish. Grow up,.. and argue your points like an adult... Clinton, would have had to give up a Rhodes scholarship, regarded as "the most prestigious scholarship in the world". The US government recognized that fact and offered him a legitimate deferment... Nugent is hardly a Rhodes scholar... ... and as you have looked up for yourself, and seen that I state the truth... live with it... Nugent did dodge the draft, and he has said himself it was in order to save his skin... (a statement that he would try to deny now)... ...and his lyrics are not just lyrics, they are autobiographical... he has bragged of these actions he considered mere peccadillo's in his youth... even though he was in his 20's or 30's at the time...(again he would deny them now)... ...and, he has sponsored, canned hunts on his own property... (look that one up too)... All of my comments are factual,... as you have been unable to deny... ...and should be ashamed to defend... Now,.. if you are done,... I will leave you to your own fragile ego, after having replied more than once to these gradeschool taunts... Not running away,.. not scared away,.. and not as you believe "typical liberals"do... Now, try to swallow your medicine like a man,.. without resorting to your usual childishness... Everyone else at this table,... can disagree with me or argue without resorting to infantile tease... We can disagree respectfully, like adults... You should study all of their example... |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by raydawg on 05/25/15 at 06:55:26 If Julia Child picked up a knife we rally have a problem....... Now Bot, I agree with you but libs are just as narrowed-minded, or lets say zealous, about what they believe as the right is..... That is what causes the friction and all the associated energy between the two factions. I think the funny thing is that the left assign themselves the term liberal, which is a disingenuous, and I think this is where you could say they extend themselves privileges under that umbrella. Both are as stiff necked as the other, and therefor the rub..... Neither lead by example but use force to govern. |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by Serowbot on 05/25/15 at 07:05:00 283B233E3B2D3D5A0 wrote:
This may be true of most liberals in political power... so many on both sides seem to merely give lip service to ideals... ...but, I don't consider my own personal liberalism to be disingenuous... |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by Art Webb on 05/25/15 at 07:43:42 3523342931242932460 wrote:
All of which should make us fear him making a finger gun more than Obama....why? as far as liberal privilege, of course there is liberal privilege, and conservative privilege and white privilege, and minority privilege and male privilege, and female privilege every one get certain privileges based on who they are, and denying it is silly as to fox news, they're no more biased than most mainstream news media, just right leaning instead of left, and they don't bring that bias to their actual news reporting, unlike, say, cnbc |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by oldNslow on 05/25/15 at 09:10:23 Not going to weigh in on the Nugent thing, 'cause I just don't care. Quote:
Julia Child spent WW11 working for OSS . The woman was a legitimate bada** long before she became a famous chef. |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by Serowbot on 05/25/15 at 09:23:21 Oh yeah,... I forgot about that... I guess that was a bad example... ;D... Julia would have mopped the floor with Ted... ;D ;D ;D... |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by MnSpring on 05/25/15 at 18:43:04 Interesting, Two people, in public view, under public scrutiny. How, ‘dirt’, can be dug about someone. And if ‘dirt’ is dug on one, it is a: ‘conspiracy theory’. (Never mind the 100’s of, ’suspicious’, behavior or events, or un-explained doings, of that person.) Or, the Actual, (Recorded, Verified), Doings, of a Person. It is STILL a, ‘conspiracy theory’. (According to, 'some'.) And dirt dug about some else. (And it is only in one song lyric, from long ago). It, Now, becomes, a, ‘fact’ ? I am wondering what, ‘dirt’, could be had on, “Mother Teresa”, And how each, ‘Political’, leaning advocate, would, ”’SPIN”, it? I really like WM’s, ‘Liberal Privilege’, statement. I guess, some are just more, ‘equal’, than others ! Is their, some, ‘Dark Smokey Room in a Castle’, somewhere? Or is it in Wash D.C. Where, (Someone has decided that) the students in, ‘Public Schools’, are deliberately, “Dummied Down”? “”” Knowledge is Power, Remove Knowledge, you remove Power ””” |
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Title: Re: Just Plaine sad. Post by Art Webb on 05/26/15 at 07:56:09 Leftist argument: forget the issue, attack the person |
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