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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> The Cafe >> New to the board /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1424984741 Message started by Rylee on 02/26/15 at 13:05:41 |
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Title: New to the board Post by Rylee on 02/26/15 at 13:05:41 Hello everyone 1st post just wanted to say hello. My name is Rylee I'm from Long Beach, CA and I own a 96 savage. The bike is about 80% done. It has a RYCA bobber kit on it, around 18k miles and I'm the 4th owner. Previous 2 only owned it for a short amount of time and as the build process has progressed I've noticed very poor upkeep. I'm posting from my phone so as soon as I'm at a laptop I'll post some pics of her current state. |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by Art Webb on 02/26/15 at 14:53:06 Pssst: we like pictures :) |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/26/15 at 21:27:05 Be aware that they need to have the cam chain tensioner checked out . What's the mileage? |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by verslagen1 on 02/26/15 at 21:34:33 23617B79707D70120 wrote:
=verslavy |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/26/15 at 22:27:35 Hey!! Lookythere, mileage, included in the first post... |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by Rylee on 02/28/15 at 23:57:45 I've had a chance to browse the board a bit and have seen the cam chain tensioner verslavy makes. I've actually book marked the thread. 1st oil change I did just under a quart came out so I'm gonna crack it open and check soon as I have a chance. I'm not riding it as of yet other then a few puts around the neighborhood to check things. I'm sure with the poor upkeep and current mileage status it's ready to be changed. I did notice on 1 particular spin an almost harmonic noise of a metallic origin like two metal objects vibrating in a bowl. Only seemed to do it under load but there was no vibration in my pegs or weird vibration as I put my heels against the engine. Hopefully with my work schedule being so heavy right now I get some free time to actually work on her. |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by Rylee on 03/01/15 at 00:07:19 415245445B5650525906370 wrote:
=verslavy[/quote] I noticed your in the LA area. I'm in Long Beach so when it comes time to replace the tensioner which I'm sure is gonna be when I crack it open I'm gonna be calling on you and save some shipping costs. |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by Paladin. on 03/01/15 at 07:24:06 Gardena, ex-Savage ex-black denim trousers and black leather jacket, now civilized golf slacks and Hawaiian shirts. |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by Rylee on 03/01/15 at 07:57:52 01303D3035383F510 wrote:
Nice! I use to be one of those hardcore cafe guys. Had a 67 triumph boneville t120 finally got fed up with British bikes and all the constant wrenching so I found the 1st bike I ever sat on. Dad had an 88 savage brand new from the dealer and at 13 years old I thought it was the coolest thing in the world. Started my love for 2 wheels and nearly 20 years later I've come full circle and own 1 |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by verslagen1 on 03/01/15 at 08:14:23 25677D7F767B76140 wrote:
On the right side? That's it, she beginning to do the death rattle. Best not to let go on for much longer. |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by Rylee on 03/01/15 at 11:03:14 I listened to a few of the posts that had tensioner gone bad noises and though I'm not at a full on rattle yet I'm gonna go ahead and say that's it. Since I haven't reached 10 posts I can't PM you yet Verslagen1 but I'm definitely gonna need your tensioner so let me know what I need to do to make it happen. Wednesday is my only real day to work on the bike without being hampered by honey do's or kids so the sooner the better I'd like to start riding her on a regular basis. Feel free to PM me with any and all details on how to acquire the parts from you. |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by verslagen1 on 03/01/15 at 12:46:26 you've beem pm'd. :D |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/01/15 at 12:51:35 IIRC,we've seen One tensioner spit its guts and NOT kill the motor. Every other one was a fatality. I would not start it again until I Knew that it was safe. |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by MMRanch on 03/01/15 at 13:16:37 Rylee When you put your new cam-chain or versey in , remember there is no need for the tentioner spring to be near as strong as the factory has it. The plunger has teeth on it so it can't back-up. I'm using a spring about 1/3 as strong as the original with no problem at all , and expect the chain to last a lot longer because of it . ;) and : Welcome aboard ! :) Hope to meet ya on one of our rides sometime . |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by verslagen1 on 03/01/15 at 13:28:10 637163717C6F606D662E0 wrote:
Do you have the spec's on that spring? |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by Kris01 on 03/01/15 at 13:33:28 Very curious about this idea |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by MMRanch on 03/01/15 at 20:22:38 No Spec. guys ... I just felt the original and knew there wasn't any senses in it being that stout. If there wasn't teeth on the extender I could see need for that much tension. But there are teeth , so it can't back-up . So just enough to keep the slack out , and not !DEMAND! THE ULTIMATE TENSION seems to make a lot more sense . I got one out of my collection of salvaged springs and stuck in in there ! ;) |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/02/15 at 00:56:47 Sounds logical to me. |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by springman on 03/02/15 at 09:37:12 Hello Everybody, My name is David and I live in Spring, Texas. I have an 06 S40 with around 14,500 miles on it maybe a bit more. I got it with just under 4K miles almost 3 years ago so I have put just over 10K miles on it myself. Lots of fun!!! I changed the clutch fiber plates and springs on it a couple of weeks ago at 14,294 miles. The fiber plates were pretty much gone. I measured the tensioner and I believe it was at about 3/4". It looked fine but nearing the end of allowed travel. I put s Shinko 712 on the rear at around 6K and it is just about worn out after 8-9K miles. I think I am going to try the Kenda Kruz 673 this time to see if it lasts longer. The Shinko 712 though gave a very good ride. Anyway, I guess it was way past time to say hello. So Hello and thanks for all the good stuff you all post. |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by Oldfeller on 03/02/15 at 09:59:09 Welcome to the board. Good to have you here !! Lacking the info, you replaced a clutch that didn't need it and was nowhere near the wear out limits (unless you were also unaware of the Clymers error in their wearout table where they reversed the plate thickness numbers). You need to take your Clymers and mark each of the known errors in it with colored ink on the pages of your manual -- this will save you pain and suffering out into the future. One of them, the rotation error during valve setting has bitten DOZENS of new people and the need to understand the things a bad vac petcock can do to your performance and reliability has bitten HUNDREDS of new people (some who paid stealerships to do full engine overhauls to "fix" the problem --- but didn't) Known Clymers Errors (Tech Section) http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1119775997 Clutch info (Tech Section) http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1276593115 Post questions before doing things into Rubber Side down section to get guided to what you need to know before spending your hard earned dollars. |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by springman on 03/02/15 at 11:30:01 Thanks for the comments Old Feller. I actually do not have a Clymer's manual. I ordered the parts (fiber disks, springs and gasket), waited to get my nerve up and dug in. It was actually quite simple. I don't have a caliper to measure thickness of the used plates but compares to the new ones there was practically nothing left on them. My clutch had been slipping for months but it was just a bit. But then I was driving down the HOV apparently accelerating when at about 75MPH the engine revs increased suddenly and power seemed to decrease. I slowed down and said it's time. By the way, it pulls great now. |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by Oldfeller on 03/02/15 at 12:13:51 Read up on clutches and recommended oils in the tech section. 14,000 miles is about right for the first clutch rod change. We go through a series of 3 clutch rods changing them out before the plates themselves actually wear out. It is what it is --- but I would simply suggest that you read up and ask questions before doing tear downs in the future as that might serve to save you some money and time. By not using a Clymer's manual and not referring to the list tech resources you are flying blind into a lot of situations that are potentially misleading. And at least you were fortunate enough not to spend $600 for a major engine rebuild for a problem that was actually your stock vac petcock misbehaving as so many others have done. And we can't count the number of carb rebuilds from that same source. Another statement that sounds fantastic is that dealership mechanics often don't know enough about the Savage because they never work on them except every other summer. And then they tend to give the Savage to the junior mechanic who does all the kiddie singles when they do get one. |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by springman on 03/02/15 at 14:13:03 You are right. I need to get a Clymers. My bike is stock but I would not be surprised if the petcock is something I do soon. Every now and then it seems like the bike does not want to keep running and I have to keep playing with the throttle to keep it from dieing at the stop light. Just happens occasionally though. Hey, quick question. How can I find out if there are any members living in my general area of Houston, TX? |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by springman on 03/02/15 at 14:36:26 I guess I should clarify. Even though I do not have a Clymers I did refer to technical data from here. I also got the info here for adjusting the valves. Valve adjustment was not complicated but still a bit of a chore since you have to drain and remove the gas tank and then reaching in with the feeler gauges was a bit difficult. But I got it done, than God. I think I must have made the piston go up and down a good thirty times before I felt comfortable that I had TDC of the compression stroke. |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by Dave on 03/02/15 at 18:24:42 494A4853545D575B543A0 wrote:
You go to the Member Locator and Map section at the top of this Cafe section, and you look around. You should also update your "My Center" to include your information so folks can find out if you are near them. It won't show folks exactly where you live - but lets them know if you are in the same general area. |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by springman on 03/02/15 at 19:34:50 Thanks. |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by springman on 03/02/15 at 19:37:54 I would love to update the "My Center". How do I get to it? Looks like I figured it out. |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by MMRanch on 03/02/15 at 20:40:51 Hay Springman If your in Texas already are you keeping up with the "OK, it ain't the Dragon " thread ? Welcome aboard ! :) |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by springman on 03/03/15 at 08:09:30 Hey there MMRanch, Thanks for the welcome. Let me try to find that thread. |
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Title: Re: New to the board Post by old_rider on 03/03/15 at 13:13:14 Its right here: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1414666722 :) |
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