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Message started by Bob Davis on 09/11/14 at 21:46:57

Title: A little late, but where were you????
Post by Bob Davis on 09/11/14 at 21:46:57

It would be interesting to hear where people were on 9/11/01.

I was a junior at Kent State University. I had a chemistry class followed by a coaching basketball class that morning. People started coming into the coaching class and talking about how something had happened in New York, but it was still too early to realize what had really happened. I was off the rest of the day and just remember how nice of a day it was out and just watching the news with friends all day.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by mpescatori on 09/12/14 at 02:31:49

I had just (one week previously) taken command of my Battallion.

Things suddenly became rather... hectic...

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by Paraquat on 09/12/14 at 06:23:40

I was on my way to my Networking Fundamentals class at college.
I wanted to stay and watch the news but my teacher was a pregnant dog.

My father was watching and said "You'll remember this for the rest of your life. This is going to be one of those things that goes down in history."

--Steve

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 09/12/14 at 06:59:53

I was in Dallas preparing to take the depositions of two American Airlines pilots who were involved in an accident at Cleveland about 3 years prior.
Needless to say, the depos didn't go forward and we were all glued to the TV.
Two days later we rented a car and drove back to Ohio.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WD on 09/12/14 at 09:48:06

Getting ready to head out with a load of sod for somewhere in Memphis. We all got called back from our deliveries, spent a good bit of time in the office glued to the television, and then went home. Boss suspended operations for the rest of the day.

A lot of people figured I would be recalled to active duty, bu I'd been a civilian for 5 years already (with a "can't even be drafted" discharge code).

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/12/14 at 16:55:40

At home,soaking up the lies. Took a few days before the" Hey,wait a minute,,that's not how hot steel acts" set in..

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by tcreeley on 09/26/14 at 18:01:44

I was in class, teaching when kids started coming through the door when the bell rang talking about it. I looked up an Australian news site- Canaberra Times, and read a report of the crashes- with video. Nothing in this country would come through on the internet. I remember thinking- so much for our NORAD defense system.
I am a conspiracy guy.
I think Cheney and Bush were part of a plan for this to happen. We had multiple warnings something was up- but each time- some "superior" hushed it up. Rumsfeld in June rerouted all military decisions through his office- so no response was possible. The jets sent up were done so by a commander acting on his own- though too late.
Just a couple of years earlier, the military had acted out a scenario of a jetliner being used to crash into buildings. So much for the "who would have thought" scenario.
Bush did not look surprised to me- just shocked by the magnitude of what he had ok'd. Within 24 hours, all of the Saudis were given secret transport out of the country.
The neocons wanted an excuse for a war with Iraq. So they manufactured one. Bin Laden was an old CIA buddy they hired for the job, friend of the Bush family.
Where was I....I was seeing the betrayal of our country.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/26/14 at 18:05:48

And who reported being warned not to fly? Look around for clues we've been lied to,again,of,swallow more fishing tackle..

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WebsterMark on 09/27/14 at 06:14:09

32253423232A233F460 wrote:

Oh Jesus H. Christ......another delusional blind as a bat Savage rider?.... What is it about this bike that brings out the looneys!......

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/27/14 at 16:24:42

Explain a few things,Mark. How is it some were warned to not fly?How was it that the Jewish guys had been sent to"document the event" if no one knew it was gonna happen? I DIDN'T SAY THE JEWS HAD A HAND IN IT. I said They,and others,knew. Bush said there was no reason to look into Who placed the Shorts on the affected companies,because following the Money SUDDENLY stopped being a crime solving approach. You've got no room to call anyone blind. Have you figured out that there IS a connection between vaccines and autism yet? It's public knowledge now.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WebsterMark on 09/29/14 at 08:55:31

4B545255484F7E4E7E46545813210 wrote:

I've been down this road with you before JOG. I completely tore apart your missile hit the Pentagon theory for example but you see only what you want to see.

I was outside of Richland, WA working. Took a week to get back to St. Louis. We ending up driving because wasn't sure when we were ever going to get a flight.

We drove over to Boise, Id and what I remember most was being at a bar that night when Bush came on TV. Everyone in the place shut up. the cooks came out of the kitchen and no one said a word. When he was done, everyone clapped and someone started a USA, USA chant. I'm telling you, if a guy had stood up and talked smack about the USA or if some Muslim had walked in the door, I think the crowd would have torn him into little pieces....

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/29/14 at 09:29:33

I wasnt talking about the Pentagon, BUT, since ya mentioned it..
The hole wasnt big enuff for the plane, No Marks on the walls where the engines would have hit, every pilot who has ever flown those planes said the maneuver the pilot pulled off was impossible, It was so hot, no landing gear was found, no seat frames, no engines,, and an aluminum tube went thru hgow many walls? AAAND, the one it Hit had Juuust been reinforced,, Huhh,, Innat sumpin? AAAND, in the days prior it had come out that the Pentagon could Not Account for Billions of dollars and Where did it hit? THE place where the financial records were kept.. If YOU were planning on slamming a plane into a building, when it came over the horizon, wouldnt YOU fly straight at it? I know, Im asking you to THINK and use common sense,, go ahead,, give it a shot. You mite be surprised.
Youve not explained yet HOW people managed to be warned to Not Fly that day,, OR How it was those guys had been SENT to document the event. They were interviewed and Stated they had been sent to document the event, SO, Prior knowledge is obvious.. And WHO placed the shorts on the affected companies? Bush said, No ned to follow the money trail, it wont help us find the bad guys. 6 of the 9/11 commission report guys have come out against the report AND building 7 wasnt even mentioned,, Duuuh,,

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by pgambr on 09/29/14 at 14:37:09

7F6066617C7B4A7A4A72606C27150 wrote:

6 of the 9/11 commission report guys have come out against the report AND building 7 wasnt even mentioned,, Duuuh,,

I didn't know that? ::)

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/29/14 at 16:39:31

http://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-conspiracy-theory/

Go read & hit the hotlinks..

heres a bite

The investigation was delayed, underfunded, set up to fail, a conflict of interest and a cover up from start to finish. It was based on testimony extracted through torture, the records of which were destroyed. It failed to mention the existence of WTC7, Able Danger, Ptech, Sibel Edmonds, OBL and the CIA, and the drills of hijacked aircraft being flown into buildings that were being simulated at the precise same time that those events were actually happening. It was lied to by the Pentagon, the CIA, the Bush Administration and as for Bush and Cheney…well, no one knows what they told it because they testified in secret, off the record, not under oath and behind closed doors. It didn’t bother to look at who funded the attacks because that question is of “little practical significance“. Still, the 9/11 Commission did brilliantly, answering all of the questions the public had (except most of the victims’ family members’ questions) and pinned blame on all the people responsible (although no one so much as lost their job), determining the attacks were “a failure of imagination” because “I don’t think anyone could envision flying airplanes into buildings ” except the Pentagon and FEMA and NORAD and the NRO.

In the article many of the things named are hotlinks to supporting documentation, which will be poo poooed or ignored by those who cant handle the obvious truth.

Testing cut and paste
Luckily, the news anchors knew who did it within minutes, the pundits knew within hours, the Administration knew within the day, and the evidence literally fell into the FBI’s lap. But for some reason a bunch of crazy conspiracy theorists demanded an investigation into the greatest attack on American soil in history.

HAAA!It's easy

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WebsterMark on 09/30/14 at 14:37:07

5E494F434C5C2E0 wrote:

[quote author=7F6066617C7B4A7A4A72606C27150 link=1410497217/0#11 date=1412008173] 6 of the 9/11 commission report guys have come out against the report AND building 7 wasnt even mentioned,, Duuuh,,

I didn't know that? ::)[/quote]

That's because it's not true in the way Jog means it. He's stretching the truth like a rubber band.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WebsterMark on 09/30/14 at 14:38:43

3A252324393E0F3F0F37252962500 wrote:

All that is bull$h1t and outright lies.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/30/14 at 21:25:45

Really? Take it apart,one sentence at a time.
You're saying the hole was big enough for the plane?
That the engines Were found?
That they messed up the wall when they smashed into it?
The landing gear was found?
Seat framework found?

Here is your chance.. tear me up.. I'm Waaay out there on that limb.. Chop it off,,post some pictures,post some copy of a report where you can find anyone who has your opinion that is supported by evidence. They never found any landing gear.. There was a guy carrying an engine part,but it was not even close to being big enough to be from that huge jet.. AND,IIRC,it was a Twin Engine plane,, what happened to the one from the other side?Identical crash,and engines,but,only one part survived.. All that heat,yet open books on a stool,not burned.

And What Moron WOULD NOT fly straight at the target as soon as possible?
The pilot didn't Know that there would be no interceptors..

Tear me up.. or,admit you've got nothing and just try some more of that BS ,Out of hand dismissal crap again.. If you're fooling anyone,it's not me..

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WebsterMark on 10/01/14 at 05:40:33

Yes, the hole was big enough. Look at the pictures. As I’ve told you before, look at the Pentagon Building Report.

Yes, parts of the engine were found.

Have no idea if the wall was being reinforced.

Yes, landing gear was found. In fact, it was the piece that penetrated the farest and made a hole in one of the inner walls you truthers always post as being the outside wall, but it’s not. Hope you haven’t fallen for that.
Seat framework? No idea if any were found.

There was a guy carrying an engine part,but it was not even close to being big enough to be from that huge jet..

classic truther story.... a gun carrying an engine part...... funny! You'll believe anything! where were you when I was selling insurance... I could have sold you anything....

The bottom line is a hundred people saw a plane fly into the building. As I told you before, I have a neighbor who was there that day and saw a plane streaking low towards the building. He was on the other side and didn’t see the impact, but saw the resulting explosion.

Until you explain how all these people saw a plane hit the building, you’ve got nothing.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/01/14 at 13:46:17

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/q0290.shtml

You're right,gear was found,wrong for a 757,but a wheel Was found..

But,regardless of what happened at the Pentagon,where agents immediately went and confiscated security camera footage from every camera that was aimed that way,even from private,not government,places,which (is it needs a little odd that they were SO ready,right after such an event,they had a team ready to go and take those recordings,which obviously show nothing,because they would not return them) and they KNEW just where to go... Uh Mazing..

Still,Bush said
Don't follow the money.
Nobody could fly,yet the Saudis and the BinLadens flew out and the FBI wasn't allowed to interview any of them.
For the first time ever,no interceptors were launched until it was waaay too late.

Explain why anyone who has a target in sight would Not go straight at it KNOWING that the Air Force has always intercepted planes that were just Off Course,And THESE planes had clearly been hijacked..
And that descending turn was performed by a very inexperienced pilot. The people who have hundreds or thousands of hours of experience said THEY couldn't fly that route.
How many light poles were knocked down? You really believe a 757 can hit stuff like that and not crash? Look at the history of planes that crashed from just clipping a wing.. Believe what you want. I say the conspiracy theory that the goobs want me to believe is a load of crap.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/01/14 at 13:58:45

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/01/14 at 14:09:06

Ohh,and A WHEEL is by no means LANDING GEAR. The thing that the wheel Mounts to,,that heavy steel thing that takes the pounding when the plane lands,That is the part I wanna see.Those wheels,tho exactly what they are made of,I can't find,can not be more durable than the main gear. There are 2wheels to share the load a single part must carry. Aircraft design requires engineering that minimizes weight,so,well,do the math..

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WebsterMark on 10/01/14 at 15:21:16

No JOG, stop right there. This is typicall truther tactics

Hundreds of people saw a jet fly into the pentagon. What did they see? All the passengers on that jet are gone, where did they go? Dozens of forensic scientist identified DNA remains from pentagon. Where did they get the DNA that matched the passengers?

Answer those and only those questions.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/01/14 at 15:22:44

http://911review.org/Wget/investigate911.batcave.net/pentagon1.html

Go look.. The rudder left no marks,no engine/wall impact .

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WebsterMark on 10/02/14 at 05:50:22

What did the people who saw a jet fly into the building see? Are they all lying? Where did the passengers go?

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by Paraquat on 10/02/14 at 06:04:42

A missile with wings could look like a plane.

--Steve

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WebsterMark on 10/02/14 at 06:12:20

Not by a hundred people Steve. Many of these are military people, including my neighbor who works at Boeing. Pretty sure he knows what a passenger jet looks like. Come on man....

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/02/14 at 07:18:17

What they saw? I don't know..
But,LACK of damage can't be justified. A wall, PENETRATED by an Aluminium Tube, unmarked by the engines.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WebsterMark on 10/02/14 at 08:44:31

They saw a large passenger jet fly into the Pentagon. They did not see a missile, they saw a large jet. There were phone calls from people on that plane to their families. Those people are gone, dead. Their human DNA was found at the site.

No one knows what happens when a large jet liner crashes into the base of a large building like the Pentagon. There are literally trillions and trillions of variables. Sh!t happens in a catastrophic event that cannot be explained. I recall photos of the Joplin tornado of a couple years ago. Entire neighborhoods wiped out, but in the middle of the debris were sections of walls still standing with window panes unbroken.

You cannot go on in this nonsense until you provide a valid explanation why all those people saw a jet fly into the building, why were jet parts found within the building, how did the passenger's remains get inside the building only a couple hours after they were last see alive by their family members.

Until you can answer those questions; shut the f up.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/02/14 at 09:34:31

Amazing,, bits and pieces of people, yet, no luggage, no seat frames, the engines and wings didnt damage the wall,, the wings wernet in the lawn, What we were SHOWN were not near the amount of aluminum that could NOT have gone thru that hole. An aluminum tube isnt more able to penetrate a wall than an engine. We saw ONE wheel,, but not the Heavy Steel leg it mounts to,, REally? No black box,,
The wings didnt Go INside the building.. They woujld have stopped, on the wall,, ant They Werent THERE..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x43128

Its not Physically POssible to fly a plane that big that fast that close to the ground. And prior to the wall collapsing, pics were taken that SHOW the hole is smaller than the plane.
Okay, sure,, of course,, the wall crushed the plane in some,, WELL,, IF thats so, then How did the crushed aluminum tube maintain sufficient integrity to not Just keep going, but to punch a near perfectly circular hole in a Sixth Wall?

Count them,, SIX walls,, and the outter wall had JUST finished being renovated to be stronger,, Amazing,, they JUST Finished working on the very wall,, the only wall they spent money on,, got rammed..

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=pictures%20of%20inner%20wall%20penetrated%20pentagon

Did they REally reinforce it, or did they actually weaken it?

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WebsterMark on 10/02/14 at 10:34:50

You can't answer these simple questions can you? Just can't do it. Instead you change the subject. Typical.

Hundred people saw a jetliner flying to the building. You said yourself they found a wheel. Where did that come from? Did somebody hide it in the briefcase?! If you read the Pentagon building performance report, you can see other pictures of plain parts in the building. I believe there is even a photo of the landing support structure you're talking about.

Once again, answer my questions or shut the f up.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/02/14 at 11:27:44

You cant answer mine,, Eye witnesses have been wrong before,, AND they can be bought,, Evidence can be planted,, or discarded. Wanna explain the countdown on building 7? Wanna explain WHY no interceptors were able to catch ANY of these planes? First time EVER our Air Force couldnt intercept a plane & they had plenty of them to go after and TONS of time after they were reported off course.. Can you spell
Stand Down?
Do you even understand what a False Flag event is and how prominently they stand out in history?
Who placed the bets on the stock prices of the affected companies?
THATS the biggest unanswered question, aside, of course, from there being ZERO investigation into the possibility of explosives..
Pay no attention to the thermite fund in the dust and the molten metal and the tiny spheres of steel that can only be created BY melted metal..
Ignore the red hot steel coming up after weeks of being buried.

Did I mention that Thermite creates oxygen as it does the chemical reaction?
I Wont Shut the F Up, Mark.. not while Im alive..
Building 7,, ANNOUNCED on TV that it had fallen, into its own footprint, some 20 minutes BEFORE it actually did,, Wuhhhh? Go look That up,, Splain Thayut,, huhh?

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WebsterMark on 10/02/14 at 13:41:19

Eye witnesses have been wrong before,, AND they can be bought,, Evidence can be planted

the rest of your post is typical nonsense designed to avoid the topic that you know will end your goofy conspiracy theory.

Eye witnesses have been wrong before, dozens and dozens of people who independently reported seeing a plane flying (including someone I know personally) and dozens and dozens who saw the plane fly into the building are wrong? Is that what you're saying?

AND they can be bought so several hundred people located all around the area were contact previously and paid off including my neighbor who has worked as an engineer for Boeing for years and is fairly wealthy? How much do you suppose he'd have to take to say he saw a plane when in fact he saw a missile? A former presidential candidate and current Democratic with his own news show amount them. How much do think Ted Olson would have to be paid to say he really wasn't talking to his wife just minutes before the plane hit the Pentagon? Because for your story to be true, the plane would have had to been hijacked, landed, her and the rest of the passengers killed, cut up into small pieces, burnt and then the little pieces of them spread in the damaged Pentagon all within an hour or so.

That's what you're going with? If you have another explanation then tell me.

Until then, your theory is:
A couple hundred people were paid millions and millions of dollars to say they saw a jet and not a missile hit the building. All the people who lost loved ones took money to be quiet knowing their family members, including a couple of children, were murdered, butchered, burnt, and had their remains spread in the building by the same people who somehow carried in various pieces from a 757 (including large wheel sections and struts) and hid them in the building just moments before your missile hit. Oh, and those people also had some other pieces of the plane they ran outside during the confusion and planted those on he ground too. Oh yea, a few people would have had to run over to the road and knock down light poles.

That's what you think happened.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/02/14 at 15:10:29

and the interceptors didnt
building 7 wasnt even IN the report, the report you lean on so heavily.
7 was reported to have fallen 20 minutes prior to its actual collapse, AND they even knew it fell into itself,,
the countdown
the red hot metal, WEEKS after they fell/
SO many holes in the oFishyal conspiracy theory it would be laughable were it not so serious. OHH the power they have gained, the freedoms we have lost,, all over a bunch of lies..

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WebsterMark on 10/02/14 at 16:48:04

Building 7. Building 7..,,,what the hell r u talking about!?

Why are you dodging the Pentagon questions? Answer them. Answer my questions about the pentagon. Coward. You're the one spreading lie if you can't answer a couple simple questions.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/02/14 at 18:12:11

So? You can't answer mine.. BUT,that's supposed to be okay.. The Pentagon,,YOU brought it up.. this thread was not about it..

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WebsterMark on 10/05/14 at 06:57:59

I've answered all your questions a year ago when we went thru this first time.

Now, you answer mine.

What did those hundreds of people who independently say they saw a jetliner fly into the building really see? This also includes the hundreds who saw the plane flying low but were not in position to see it hit like my neighbor. This list includes Gary Bauer and Paul Begulia two well known personalities on the opposite side of the political spectrum.

How did jetliner parts, including very heavy ones, get into the building?

People spoke to loved ones on the jet just moments before it hit. How were they killed, dismembered, and their their DNA (body parts) scattered in the building in such a short time?

Until you and your other truthers can give realistic explanations to those 3 simple questions, you got nothing.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/05/14 at 07:43:08

SHOW me these Big Heavy 757 parts..

How was RED HOT metal coming out of the ground WEEKS after? How was kit the fire men reported explosions?

You say that the answers to your questions make the oFishyal story undeniable.
I xay my questions make it an obvious lie.

How is it that Building 7
A: Was Not even IN that report you so love,, If it was, you get me the page number and provide a link,,

B: It was REPORTED as having fallen,,

2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afUS_58XC5I0 some minutes prior to actually falling.. Huhh?

Anyone care to spend 20 minutes?

Some pretty interesting points made there..

People who havent worked with steel and torches, rosebud tip, heating and bending steel,,dont really have a base to stand on,.,

YOur opinion is based in what youve been told.

Get a torch and some heavy steel plate,, play with it.. What youll learn isnt something that can be typed on a forum,,

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WebsterMark on 10/07/14 at 07:34:08

Pentagon Building Performance Report. Look it up.
Not talking about anything other than pentagon. If I start talking about #7, you'll switch to towers. That's what you guys do. As soon as the conversation begins to pin you down, you jump topics. That's why you want to leave pentagon because you are looking foolish trying to explain away hundreds of witness statements, plane parts in building, missing passengers etc....

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/07/14 at 07:41:07

I was talking about 7 when YOU decided to get out your Pentagon,,Go back and see.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WebsterMark on 10/07/14 at 16:42:07

Answer my questions. You afraid to tell me what you know happened at Pentahon?

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/07/14 at 17:15:27

How am I supposed to know what they saw?? I've seen interviews,I've seen guys Swear that,yes,they saw the plane,But,it wasn't on the path we were told.
What became of the Tons of wreckage the wings became?
One Hundred and Thirty THOUSAND POUNDS of airplane.. Gone.. Except for a few scraps... The weight I'm giving is the empty weight.Depends on engines,,but,that's close.. Black Box,vaporized, the seat frames,also, A WHeel, one of 8,, but the strongest parts,the guts of the engines and the main gear struts,, gone.. I'm done.. All you do is demand , you don't SAY anything but ANSWER my questions,,

You don't answer mine.. you can't.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/07/14 at 17:19:10

http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=101

You really believe that This went through SIX walls,and was still tubular and able to punch a round hole in the last one?

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WebsterMark on 10/07/14 at 17:52:41

Who told you black boxes were vaporized?

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/07/14 at 18:29:29

Oh,yes,,they found that one,,but,,did they release anything? No,they would not even let us see security camera footage.. 3 frames?
Yeah,you WIN! That made all my other questions just disappear. Look! I see wing dents in the wall.. You realize that the density of the wings is greater than that of the fuselage,right? The engines and wings would have done a lot of damage..You did see what they did to the towers,right?

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WebsterMark on 10/07/14 at 20:03:27

So, at first you said the black boxes were vaporized! Now, they're found but the secret cabal that runs the world wouldn't released the real data huh?

So what's the next thing you're gonna change your story on when confronted?

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/07/14 at 20:10:58

I should not admit I was wrong? I'm not You..
So,because I forgot about the Box at the Pentagon being found,THAT means the wings should not have left marks on the wall.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WebsterMark on 10/07/14 at 20:48:23

Vaporized to found but data with held is not forgetting, it's making stuff up that fits your predisposed view.
Read the pentagon building performance report to find your answer.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/07/14 at 21:31:50

So,that's going to explain WHY the wings didn't mess up the wall? You can do that,can't you? You know,remember the video of the plane and how the wings sliced into the tower? If it can do that to that building,then why did it Not knock Heck outta the Pentagon? Where did All that airplane go? A pick-up truck load? Naaa... if it didn't go Through the wall,it's laying in the yard.. Metal,not even aluminum,disappears on impact.

And the main landing gear is outboard of the fuselage.. It's 24 feet apart. And how big was the hole before the wall collapsed? Around 13 to 15,best I can recall.. why don't you c and p it from that goob " authorized thought processes" version of crap you're so fond of? It's in there,isn't it? You've surely got the page.number memorized,, so,put it up.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WebsterMark on 10/08/14 at 04:18:04

And the main landing gear is outboard of the fuselage.. It's 24 feet apart. And how big was the hole before the wall collapsed? Around 13 to 15,best I can recall..

Jog, you've read some crap off a truther site that showed you a photo of one of the inner walls and told you it was the outside wall because there was a road in front. (Some of inner rings have roads around them)

The hole on the outside wall is about 75' wide.

Read the report. I bet u won't cause you'll be forced to rethink some things.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/08/14 at 05:57:59

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=hole+in+pentagon+before+collapse&id=E17A632300352B9B0215B2C975C0D61DE04A8FCC&FORM=IQFRBA#view=detail&id=E17A632300352B9B0215B2C975C0D61DE04A8FCC&selectedIndex=0

If that hole is 75 few, then those windows, unbroken,btw, are more than 25 feet wide Each
.You are going to be the one rethinking.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/08/14 at 06:04:24

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=hole+in+pentagon+before+collapse&FORM=IQFRBA&id=E17A632300352B9B0215B2C975C0D61DE04A8FCC&selectedIndex=0[/ftp]#a

There.. upper left.. and see that vertical column? Doesn't that make you think?

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/08/14 at 06:18:00

And, I don't CARE ABOUT an airplane,anyway.. I was talking about building 7. Seriously , Mark, the Pentagon is not something I can get excited about.. 7,otoh, Yeah,, Nothing hit it,, debris, no plane.. You came along and involved yourself and the Pentagon,, and I just don't care.. I'm interested in showing the obvious,And to me,7, 7 makes it obvious..All that is necessary for the truth to get out is for the masses to see One Lie.. What happened at the Pentagon, plane, not a plane, walls crashed into or not, doesn't matter ,
Building 7, that's the easiest way to get it.. like I start with the Fed, when I m trying to wake someone up.. You don't have much to say...

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WebsterMark on 10/08/14 at 16:51:42

Jog, did you or did you not read and view photos in the pentagon building performance report? Yes or no?

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/08/14 at 17:25:45

Did you look at the ones I took the time to post a link for?

And,no. Like I said,I don't care about the Pentagon lies.
IF you want me to look at a picture,post a link To It. Not a book.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WebsterMark on 10/08/14 at 18:50:51

yes I did look at your links, (one didn't work) which is why I'm telling to look at the building report because the photos you are looking at are purposely misleading. they are cropped and selected to show what you want to believe not what the facts support.

lets review: yesterday, you said the black boxes were vaporized. Today you now know they were not.

Earlier today, you thought the hole was 13-15 feet wide, now you know it is at least 75' wide.

You keep changing the topic to building 7 because you know if your "missile hit the pentagon theory" is destroyed, your entire house of cards collapses.

Read the pentagon building performance report Jog. You say you read everything so do it. Read the report and find the errors. Go ahead.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/08/14 at 19:54:53

No,all I have to do is prove One Lie.. I don't care what hit the Pentagon,no planes were intercepted, They said 7 was down 20 something minutes before it fell. It's rate of collapse,wrong ,, all wrong. And you post a link to a picture,not a book, ill look. But for now, it Was a smaller hole than after the wall fell in.. Look at the Windows,, the ones that the rudder Didn't break... Show me yours,I showed you mine.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WebsterMark on 10/10/14 at 05:09:25

Jog, that 20 min thing has been explained a million times! I can't believe someone is still repeating it!

I give up jog. If you're too cowardly to read the report and would rather stay in your little cocoon, go right ahead, I won't try to expand your vision anymore. I don't know why I can't resist getting sucked into these truther arguments.... It's like taking a giant turd and then looking at it in amazement! You know it's nothing but a big pile of $hit but you still gotta look....

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/10/14 at 11:01:55

Really? How was it explained that someone declared a 47 story building had fallen when it hadnt, and managed to know it didnt topple over, but fell vertically, 20 minutes Prior to the actual event? Other buildings in the afrea were in much worse shape than 7,, go look at some of the satellite pics,, NOW

Either POST a LINK to what you want me to see or , to quote a guy who was posting here. Shut the F up.. Ohh,, that was you..

Show me the explanation of how someone "Got it wrong" ,, but got it right.

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/11/14 at 08:24:22

Uh Huhh,, No link, no link to the "explanation" ( read lameass excuse)
No link to the PRE collapse hole in the wall pics,,

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by Bob Davis on 10/12/14 at 14:53:07

http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/12/14 at 16:59:24

And with asymmetrical damage we expect a symmetrical collapse? Shouldnt the damaged side have sagged and the building fall over?
IDK hoot about "Structure Magazine", who wrote that, BUT, I DO know that the Architects and Engineers who have come out and made the points I support laid something on the line to do so,..

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by WebsterMark on 10/13/14 at 05:21:57

070505077966030005350 wrote:

http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

Bob, please take this baton and run with it. Just watch out for the brick walls and U turns you'll be running into constantly

Title: Re: A little late, but where were you????
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/13/14 at 09:19:38

Its a load of crap,, yes, take it and run,, its bullshirt