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Message started by PuffsPlus on 06/21/14 at 16:01:12

Title: Lets talk "Air Filter Mods"
Post by PuffsPlus on 06/21/14 at 16:01:12

I see a bunch of you have gone with a K&N 1250 Cone filter.
I like that and I'm sure that it's a well noted improvement.
What I am curious about is not only what filters have been used but also visual improvements.

I thought I has seen someone with a cone filter sort of extended out and downward and sticking out of the side of the bike a bit. How is that done? Are there some sort of extensions that can be purchased? Is it a total custom job?

Has anyone used a Pancake side mount type filter?

What if any pit falls are there to air flowing through angles in an enclosed pipe to the carb?

Other thoughts and ideas are welcome.

Thanks again all.

~Nathan

Title: Re: Lets talk "Air Filter Mods"
Post by copterdoc on 06/21/14 at 17:32:18

Here is my side mount pancake.

Title: Re: Lets talk "Air Filter Mods"
Post by thumperclone on 06/21/14 at 18:34:56

de snorkeled air box and a k&n drop in

Title: Re: Lets talk "Air Filter Mods"
Post by PuffsPlus on 06/21/14 at 18:44:19

@Copterdoc
How do you get that 90 degree angle from the Carb? What are the parts called?

@Thumperclone
By desnorkeled you you mean that you remove the feeder tube that previously went to the air box and just pop the filter right on to the carb?

Title: Re: Lets talk "Air Filter Mods"
Post by PuffsPlus on 06/23/14 at 13:46:28

Has anyone use the Dime city or Ryca K&N "Style" Pod filters?

Title: Re: Lets talk "Air Filter Mods"
Post by HondaLavis on 06/23/14 at 14:48:33

I read in a thread somewhere on hear that having some kind of straight path before entering the head was good to optimize flow. I ultimately modified the stock intake throat so that I could clamp my K&N to it. It seems to work well, plus the position gives it a little protection from water on the road.

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee291/Lavis325CL/20130306_180400_zpsd7cee5d9.jpg

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee291/Lavis325CL/20121008_131504_zps687c351a.jpg

I like the aesthetics of it, and that's what counts. ;)

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee291/Lavis325CL/20120927_130852.jpg

Title: Re: Lets talk "Air Filter Mods"
Post by clearush on 06/23/14 at 21:48:52

I'm running one of these

http://content.motosport.com/images/items/large/UUN/UUN0006/X001.jpg

Uni Pod filter 57mm

Title: Re: Lets talk "Air Filter Mods"
Post by WD on 06/24/14 at 08:25:13

Desnorkled is the rubber top chunk pulled out of the airbox upper section. The rest of the box is left stock, with a factory style fit K&N flat filter.

"K&N-esque" cone filters from any source are garbage. Even properly oiled they let large debris into the carburetor.

Title: Re: Lets talk "Air Filter Mods"
Post by BalingWire on 06/24/14 at 09:24:45

I went K&N. Now I'm contemplating where and how to reinstall the battery and the wiring rats nest into something creative. I might put it in a 5L mini-keg, an oak barrel, or even a bird cage. Cuckoo! ::)

Title: Re: Lets talk "Air Filter Mods"
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/24/14 at 09:31:01

My experience. First, read a bit on intake theory, unless this is about looks more than high-performance. I learned the volume between filter surface and carb should be equal or greater than the jug volume. Also,in my opinion, the cost and all considered, the k/n just wasn't all that great. It's okay, but borderline worth it.I modified the air box to increase the volume.good luck, whichever way you go.

Title: Re: Lets talk "Air Filter Mods"
Post by YoungSavage on 06/25/14 at 09:12:12

233C3A3D20271626162E3C307B490 wrote:

Justin by chance did you document this process? This sounds like a good option to go towards. Do you feel that the bike became more responsive or anything there of?

Title: Re: Lets talk "Air Filter Mods"
Post by PuffsPlus on 06/25/14 at 17:16:12

I had first considered drilling holes in the side of the box in the plastic removable cover. Then I was going to just drop in a k&n.

AS far as being High performance. There's no LS650 drag circuit here :o
So I guess it's for looks and a bit more power. I'm not going to Dyno test it or anything like that.

I was wondering if there was any major pit falls that I needed to avoid while doing this.

I have a vision. I don't know how it ends. But I'm psyched about the journey. ;D

Oh, one more question... what is the Jug volume? Is that the displacement?

Title: Re: Lets talk "Air Filter Mods"
Post by HovisPresley on 06/25/14 at 20:12:13

Hi, I also have a 'vision' as regards the Savage , sadly unlike yourself i haven't managed to find one at the right price/locality (in UK) but this forum is great for allsorts of tried and tested info, this bike has a bit of a cult following as it seems to be so easy to modify to personal needs. Take a few evenings to read through this helpful forum and associated links and absorb, while i still try and envisage that dream...

Jug volume is 652cc as standard, this is the displacement of the cylinder

Title: Re: Lets talk "Air Filter Mods"
Post by copterdoc on 06/28/14 at 20:36:12

I used an elbow from the RYCA store.

Title: Re: Lets talk "Air Filter Mods"
Post by copterdoc on 06/28/14 at 20:38:00

I keep tinkering. Here is the latest.

Title: Re: Lets talk "Air Filter Mods"
Post by copterdoc on 06/28/14 at 20:39:06

Drilled and trimmed my side covers.

Title: Re: Lets talk "Air Filter Mods"
Post by copterdoc on 06/28/14 at 20:41:07

last shot

Title: Re: Lets talk "Air Filter Mods"
Post by Shrulk on 02/28/18 at 17:39:58

Copterdoc I'm running a similar setup with my exhuast and filter but am having troy led with wide open throttle under load... any suggestions on jets or anything??

Title: Re: Lets talk "Air Filter Mods"
Post by Dave on 02/28/18 at 17:53:32

Copterdoc hasn't signed onto the forum since Oct 2016.....

Title: Re: Lets talk "Air Filter Mods"
Post by Shrulk on 02/28/18 at 18:15:25

Dang it lol alright then I'll keep trying to research, thanks for crushing my hopes hahahaha

Title: Re: Lets talk "Air Filter Mods"
Post by batman on 02/28/18 at 21:04:42

I wouldn't drill holes in the plastic side cover. if you use the K&N drop in(junk) , or if you look in the Tech Section , and build a filter better than that - an Oldfeller's for 1/5 the price , just leave the plastic side cover off.

Title: Re: Lets talk "Air Filter Mods"
Post by verslagen1 on 02/28/18 at 21:59:14

baty, he's talking about the ryca side covers, not the airbox... take a look at the pics.

Title: Re: Lets talk "Air Filter Mods"
Post by batman on 03/01/18 at 11:28:02

sorry! I thought we had pics above of Copterdoc's bike . I didn't realize Puffsplus's bike was also a ryca clone. I'd be thinking about intake tuning ,before air cleaner placement.