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Title: Government IS the Enemy Post by Dane Allen on 05/19/14 at 21:09:13 http://washingtonexaminer.com/feds-used-donations-intended-for-poor-for-massages-luxuries-for-themselves/article/2548554 Actually, it's worse than it looks in the link. Exerpt: Quote:
Before all you "shoot the messenger" and "the Koch brothers are behind everything" types spout off, please read the part about this being a government audit. The MSM won't be talking about any of this because Narrative(tm) but there are a few bastions of truth still out there. |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by Serowbot on 05/19/14 at 22:30:21 Directly from the link you provided... "Washington Examiner"... Quote:
Uh,..duh?...Yeah?... Are you in favor of being manipulated by billionaires?... Thank you sir,.. may I have another?... ;D ;D ;D... Money does not equal speech... ...and corporations are not people... Fix the Constitution if you must... ....or, just interpret it differently... It wasn't designed to let billionaires run elections... |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by shorty on 05/20/14 at 07:21:20 we need to clean house.. term limits would have helped, 20YRS AGO >:( on topic, not surprised, thanks for posting.. I must add: govt MUST spend within their means, very important my friends |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by Pine on 05/20/14 at 07:28:51 I hope federal and military employees find out and stop their contributions. It will be sad for the few that did benefit, but there are other charities that apparently are run much better. It also would make me happy if the entire "loaned executive" thing was abolished. That IS a misuse of taxpayer money. |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by Dane Allen on 05/20/14 at 12:05:30 5442554850454853270 wrote:
Wait, are you saying you are in favor of ammending the Constitution to give Congress the power to decide who gets freedom of speech??? :o :o :o Hopefully, I a reading that wrong. What about all the Soros-esque billionaires who fund all these shadow groups? Can we shut up all these hollywood celebrities now? Can we take MSNBC, CBS and CNN off the air finally? Not like they contribute much anyway, let the Whitehouse push their own talking points. |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by Serowbot on 05/20/14 at 12:43:09 I'm saying,.. exactly what I said... Money does not equal speech... if it did, some people, and all corporations have much more right to free speech than others do... Taking the old adage... "If you repeat a lie enough,..."... Those with enough money, can bend the minds of the public into believing anything... If money is speech... it renders most of us, mute... The truth is up to the highest bidder... If the Constitution needs to be amended to correct this, so be it.. I don't believe it does... because, I don't believe the founders intended money to be equated with speech... but, apparently the SCOTUS does... So,... amend away... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by Dane Allen on 05/21/14 at 08:37:18 Money is money and speech is speech. The SCOTUS said having money doesn't disqualify you from free speech. Politicians need to fear the people or a tyrrany will evolve. Look at the Veteran abuse scandal, just another of the many that plague this administration, the 1st Ammendment is fine as it is, the only way it can change is for the worse. Nothing will be gained from stripping away people's rights. |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by Dane Allen on 05/21/14 at 08:41:30 5E485F425A4F42592D0 wrote:
Then eliminate unions and the Democrat party, don't strip away my rights to stop the abuse perpetrated by others. Liberals shout about equality, how about political equality for a change??? |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by Serowbot on 05/21/14 at 09:37:31 Study after study has shown Fox News viewers to be the least informed and most often misled... NPR listeners are the most informed... Thus,.. muzzling Liberals is suppressing the truth... Rupert Murdoch and the Koch brothers are telling lies... This is fact... You can whine about Liberal billionaires influence all you want... ...but,... there is a difference in suppressing truth, and stopping lies... ...but,...SCOTUS decided, in a case involving Fox News, that the right to lie is protected speech.. A lot of Conservative money is spent spreading lies. ...if you repeat a lie often enough... Obama is not a Kenyan, Muslim, or leader of Al Qaeda... ::)... The truth is a hard pill to swallow... |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by oldNslow on 05/21/14 at 10:02:12 Quote:
maybe not -- but he's still a really terrible President. |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by Serowbot on 05/21/14 at 11:02:25 He is if you watch Fox or listen to talk radio... ;D... |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by oldNslow on 05/21/14 at 11:19:05 382E39243C29243F4B0 wrote:
Well, I wouldn't know about that. I watch NPR, BBC, and our local news critters, and I read the WSJ and the Washington post. Not exactly the bastions of right wing wackery - and I still think he's a terrible president. I rarely listen to any radio - talk or otherwise. |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by shorty on 05/21/14 at 13:36:09 obama is the worst president of my (old) life, his inexperience shows, look up his past political experiences (inexperiences) edit: why is it that anybody trying to defend this failed administration blames FOX news for public discontent? Even administration officials use the tired line: "it's all FOX news causing problems"..REALLY?? the presidency is made or broken by a TV news source? come on now folks, stop blaming racism, a NYC TV station, or long past presidents for the crappy mess we're in |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by old_rider on 05/21/14 at 18:55:12 wow, with that title on the post.... wonder who the new folks are that are signing up on the site?... LOL :o :o ::) ::) 8-) |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/21/14 at 20:42:27 7F697E637B6E63780C0 wrote:
I need nothing to help me see the obvious, he SUCKS,, Bush SUCKED,, |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by Dane Allen on 05/21/14 at 20:50:12 4A4941574C414057250 wrote:
Well, unless they've been living in a cave for that last 6 years or are chronically liberal I think they are either trolls or are as fed up as I am. |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by Dane Allen on 05/21/14 at 20:54:31 More Obamacare fun. http://betsyspage.blogspot.com/2014/05/cruising-web_19.html Quote:
Bonus Material http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/05/17/Five-Times-Obama-Officials-Expressed-Outrage-At-Their-Own-Incompetence Quote:
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by Dane Allen on 05/21/14 at 21:03:11 5244534E56434E55210 wrote:
I don't think that just because someone disagrees with you that they are automatically liars. Mr. Transparency won't release his college documents like every other President in history so we don't know, as we suspect, that Obama himself is responsible for the Kenyan rumor because that is what he put on college applications to get financial aid and preferential treatment ala Fauxcahontas - Elizabeth Warren. Maybe if Obama wasn't such a cover-up artist and had any talent other than blaming others for his failures then we might have a different situation here. Be we are stuck with what we got and you can't convince me that our economy is stagnating because of Fox News. The IRS scandal, Fast and Furious scandal, Obamacare roll-out scandal, Benghazi scandal, Keep Your Doctor scandal, VA scandal, Tax Dodgers scandal and all the other scandals are not lies created by Fox News. Maybe it just seems that way because all the liberal dominated media (7% conservative) are dutifully toeing the party line to detriment of the country. |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by Dane Allen on 05/21/14 at 21:56:52 7C6A7D60786D607B0F0 wrote:
About that... http://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/8/2/024024/article Quote:
97% of scientists that believe in global warming is 97% of the 32.6%, 1% of the 32.6% disagreed. 66.4% said nothing either way. It isn't 97% of all scientists or even climate scientists. But it's Conservatives that push lies... ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by Serowbot on 05/22/14 at 00:17:42 Countering a half-million idiots on the internet,.. is an exercise in futility... If you want real numbers... go to a real site... Start with Googling words like Climatology, Climate, or weather... Instead of dumbasses that think the world is flat... and Sarah Palin is smart... "32,000" "scientists".. if you ever bothered to read the multitude of previous links and info I already supplied... included any bozo that even claimed to have any degree in anything... Would you take medical advice from your accountant?... I will not argue this silliness anymore... I have proven my point... No one here reads... or listens to any reality... No one here has bothered to read any facts... ...and I mean actual facts from actual climatologists, on sites where actual climatologists are... So here we go again... ...repeat a lie often enough... 4 million idiots, repeating and quoting some foolishness... do not outweigh the actual climatological evidence... Sorry... real climatologists, have more important things to do than try to outpost idiots... You have to hunt for the truth... You think you are hunting now?... noop... If you type "Climate Change"... you will get get 4 million blowhard fools... and maybe a handful of actual climatology sites... It is a reality of the modern world... The truth hides in a sewer of nonsense... |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by Dane Allen on 05/22/14 at 08:46:37 7660776A72676A71050 wrote:
On a side note, assuming this is not a biased and/or politically motivaded study, Fox has the highest ratings by a large margin so you have a lot of diversity of viewers from all age, income and education groups so when you take a massive population and compare it to a tiny relative sample like NPR, you would expect to get these results. It also depends on who is asked the survey questions but that Fox represents the mainstream of America I would not be surprised of a great diversity in education and beliefs. |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by Dane Allen on 05/22/14 at 10:34:36 7264736E76636E75010 wrote:
And in the end it is still a theory. Whether it is by 97% or 32% of scientists it is still just a theory based on evidence on hand and conjecture. To elevate this beyond that is to enter the realm of relgious faith, if it is in your belief system to believe that humans are changing the climate then there is no evidence or logic that will sway you. |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by verslagen1 on 05/22/14 at 13:13:36 5E485F425A4F42592D0 wrote:
Study after study... paid for by... will show whatever, whoever paid for it wants to show. Same goes for GW... if you're paid to show GW, you're dam well gonna show it or else you're outta job. Which pretty much explains the venomity from those about to loose their jobs. |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by Pine on 05/22/14 at 13:35:36 766572736C6167656E31000 wrote:
Study after study... paid for by... will show whatever, whoever paid for it wants to show. Same goes for GW... if you're paid to show GW, you're dam well gonna show it or else you're outta job. Which pretty much explains the venomity from those about to loose their jobs.[/quote] Either you KNOW something or that's very good timing on your part. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha--6guaf-w&list=UUTiL1q9YbrVam5nP2xzFTWQ&index=12 http://www.thegwpf.org/lennart-bengtsson-resigns-gwpf-voices-shock-and-concern-at-the-extent-of-intolerance-within-the-climate-science-community/ |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by verslagen1 on 05/22/14 at 13:43:10 0E37303B2A312C5E0 wrote:
It's a well known fact amongst those that deal in stat's. |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by Dane Allen on 05/23/14 at 16:03:46 4C5F4849565B5D5F540B3A0 wrote:
It's a well known fact amongst those that deal in stat's.[/quote] 97% of people whose quality of life is dependant on the government believe that the government should continue maintaining that quality of life ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by shorty on 05/23/14 at 21:21:13 just the fact that fine outstanding Americans are posting in this manner is proof our once great govt is slipping away.. when I was younger the govt was my friend, the idea our employees would fail to represent our best wishes was the furthest thing from my mind.. age has physical drawbacks, the mind continues to learn ;) |
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Title: Re: Government IS the Enemy Post by Dane Allen on 05/30/14 at 10:16:58 Another little story for those who see the government as their personal lord and savior: http://www.forbes.com/sites/billfrezza/2014/05/26/lumber-union-protectionists-incited-swat-raid-on-my-factory-says-gibson-guitar-ceo/ Exerpt: Quote:
A CONVICTION MACHINE!!! Just what the thought police need. >:( >:( |
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