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Message started by Jsud04 on 05/17/14 at 14:14:46

Title: front wheel out of round...slightly
Post by Jsud04 on 05/17/14 at 14:14:46

OK so my front wheel is slightly out of round. A tiny little hop, nothing big. But when I Spin the wheel the (brand new) tire seems to have an exaggerated hop...now the handling is fine
..I don't think I really notice it on the move... o would assume that this is what balancing is meant to correct..


Is this something that can or should be corrected at the spokes? I com from the world of road bicycle racing where this would be intolerable.

Title: Re: front wheel out of round...slightly
Post by Serowbot on 05/17/14 at 15:08:22

If it's the rim, yes...  it's more likely that the tire didn't get seated properly...
If you can jack up the front,.. try spinning it, while having a stationary pointer set near the rim edge...

I'd take it back to the guys that put your tire on... let them have a look...
It may just be a matter of letting the air out,.. giving the tire a jiggle,.. then re-inflating...
;)...

Title: Re: front wheel out of round...slightly
Post by Jsud04 on 05/17/14 at 15:20:10

Yep the rim deffinatly has a high and low point...is this easily fixed at a shop I'm not gonna mess with it. Do you see any issues with riding it for the moment... I have to put a set of bearings in so I was gonna wait till they arrive to take it off...

Title: Re: front wheel out of round...slightly
Post by Serowbot on 05/17/14 at 15:31:35

I think it's expensively fixable at a shop... ;D...

Check that all the spokes are least snug, and none broken,... and it should be okay to ride like that for while...
As long as it's not so bad that it's trying to throw you off...

I find it interesting that you notice it, now... with a new tire..
Rims don't go out of round quickly...
If you haven't hit anything,... is it possible that they boogered it while installing your tire?...

Title: Re: front wheel out of round...slightly
Post by Jsud04 on 05/17/14 at 15:41:42

I hit a pot hole or man hole cover now and then... who don't...but I am gonna go back to them and ask why it wasn't mentioned to me when I picked it up. The only time I think I notice it is when going slow...I wonder what its gonna cost me...or if I should try fix in it...any suggestions on that? I feel like the hop on the tire is more than that of the rim...both hop but the rim hops less

Title: Re: front wheel out of round...slightly
Post by Serowbot on 05/17/14 at 15:49:07

I wouldn't try it... have them take a look...
If you trust them... or get an opinion from another shop...

No idea on cost... but, it would be cheaper to buy a fleabay replacement...

Title: Re: front wheel out of round...slightly
Post by Oldfeller on 05/17/14 at 15:54:23


All you need to true a wheel is a small adjustable wrench and a coat hanger wire pointer wrapped tightly around your fork tube bottom on each side.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcZ1jjB_AdQ


Bicycle guys have to do this all the time.   Spoked motorcycle wheels are kinda rare on motorcycles any more, so go to the bike guys for your tutorials.

Be aware that yo need to do this AFTER you mount the tire since you jerk the wheel around quite a bit while mounting the tire.

Plus, if the tire is mis-mounted, this check after mounting makes that very apparent.


Title: Re: front wheel out of round...slightly
Post by Dave on 05/17/14 at 16:01:14

I am with Oldfellor on this one.  My trials motorcycle had very light and soft aluminum rims.  They would move and creep out of round while bouncing around off logs and rocks.  Each winter I would loosen the spokes and readjust the rim to be true.

A bicycle or motorcycle shop with someone that know wheels should be able to get it back round again.  You do need to loosen spokes as well as tighten to get it round again.....then snug them all up to the proper tension.  You can search on YouTube for videos that show you how to do it.  Depending on where your bike is stored and how old it is....some spoke nipples may no longer be adjustable....they corrode.

Title: Re: front wheel out of round...slightly
Post by Jsud04 on 05/17/14 at 17:46:41

I threw it in my park tool truing stand for bike wheels slapped some zip ties on it and rounded and trued it within .008... the rest of the hop is in the tire. I'll be reseating it tomorrow. Took about 1/3 of the hop out...

Title: Re: front wheel out of round...slightly
Post by Serowbot on 05/17/14 at 22:42:12

You own your own truing stand and you ask if a wobbly wheel is easily corrected at a shop?...

That's funny, that is... ;D ;D ;D...

In case you haven't noticed... we answer questions here, from people that have never put air in a tire... and can't remove their seat...
Nothing wrong with that...  
They want to learn...
We are here to give advice, support, and encouragement...

Next time you ask a question... you might include pertinent information...
Like,... if you have a wobbly wheel...
You might say up front that own your own truing wheel... and you already know how to adjust spokes...

Otherwise... you waste my time...
We are in the dark here... if you have a flashlight.. you might want to mention it...

Otherwise,... we will generally advise to lowest common denominator...
:-?...








Title: Re: front wheel out of round...slightly
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/17/14 at 23:31:27

Its just a piece of metal,, its not a space ship. You can adjust its shape by changing the spoke tensions. Get the front end off the ground, get the brake pads pushed away so it will rotate easily, put a wire in a piece of wood & make a pointer to locate the high & low spots & the parts that sway in & out. Mark the high points & low points & look at the rim & see where they are relative to each other. If the low points are 180 degrees across from each other & the high points are 180 across, then loosen the low point spokes & tighten the high point spokes.. Itll take a while, but anyone can true a rim,, Ive straightened 10 speed rims that were so bent they wouldnt even roll,,

Title: Re: front wheel out of round...slightly
Post by Jsud04 on 05/18/14 at 04:54:53


5543544951444952260 wrote:
You own your own truing stand and you ask if a wobbly wheel is easily corrected at a shop?...

That's funny, that is... ;D ;D ;D...

In case you haven't noticed... we answer questions here, from people that have never put air in a tire... and can't remove their seat...
Nothing wrong with that...  
They want to learn...
We are here to give advice, support, and encouragement...

Next time you ask a question... you might include pertinent information...
Like,... if you have a wobbly wheel...
You might say up front that own your own truing wheel... and you already know how to adjust spokes...

Otherwise... you waste my time...
We are in the dark here... if you have a flashlight.. you might want to mention it...

Otherwise,... we will generally advise to lowest common denominator...
:-?...



Hey now...bicycle wheels and MC wheels might have been different! That being said think of all the people that might search for this topic. Anyhow. I am in need of 5 front wheel nipples... Anyone willing to part with extras?

Title: Re: front wheel out of round...slightly
Post by Jsud04 on 05/18/14 at 05:29:29

I have an in unmodified cam chain tensioner up for grabs if someone gets me some nipples...

Title: Re: front wheel out of round...slightly
Post by S-P on 05/18/14 at 08:20:30


6F5650414057561511250 wrote:
I have an in unmodified cam chain tensioner up for grabs if someone gets me some nipples...


HAHAHA! I read this comment in the "10 most recent comments" without reading your former post about the wheel. I was thinking, Hm. This dude is drunk posting on the wrong forum......  :D

Title: Re: front wheel out of round...slightly
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/18/14 at 11:32:41

Okay,, that really messes with my imagination. I read that & saw a guy at a swap meet with a sign

Will trade tensioner for nipples.

Dude,, :)..

Title: Re: front wheel out of round...slightly
Post by verslagen1 on 05/18/14 at 14:07:00


724B4D5C5D4A4B080C380 wrote:
I have an in unmodified cam chain tensioner up for grabs if someone gets me some nipples...

Hmmmm... gonna have to add that to my thread somehow.   8-)

Title: Re: front wheel out of round...slightly
Post by Jsud04 on 05/23/14 at 10:04:18


6B786F6E717C7A78732C1D0 wrote:
[quote author=724B4D5C5D4A4B080C380 link=1400361286/0#12 date=1400416169]I have an in unmodified cam chain tensioner up for grabs if someone gets me some nipples...

Hmmmm... gonna have to add that to my thread somehow.   8-)[/quote]


Good times! ;D

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