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Message started by YoungSavage on 05/15/14 at 11:38:18

Title: proper clutch cable adjustment?
Post by YoungSavage on 05/15/14 at 11:38:18

Has anybody documented a proper how to for all clutch cable adjustments? Don't find anything in the tech section. Even through the list under clutch.

YS.

Title: Re: proper clutch cable adjustment?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/15/14 at 12:07:28

If its way outta whack you may need to go down to the mount on the engine, but thats kinda rare. Most adjustments can be handled up on the lever. Gotta pull back the rubber & expose the adjusters. One is about 3/4", like a chrome washer with a knurled edge. Gotta get that thing loosened up so the inner part will turn. Adjust the cable so the lever can wiggle about `1/8th inch freely. If its not a little slack the clutch can slip. If its too slack it may not disengage the clutch all the way,

Title: Re: proper clutch cable adjustment?
Post by verslagen1 on 05/15/14 at 12:35:13

And check with the handlebars turned either way... lock to lock.

And check the clutch lever on the tranny.
there's 2 marks behind the lever... should be between them.

Title: Re: proper clutch cable adjustment?
Post by YoungSavage on 05/15/14 at 19:37:20

Thanks guys. Yeah after reading through here the past year and being somewhat mechanically inclined I've got the basics. Just curious if somebody put together an "if this is this way, then ...." doesn't seem as such though.

Title: Re: proper clutch cable adjustment?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/15/14 at 22:20:05

The reason for that is,, its just so danged easy.. Youll be fine. yoUVE GOT ALL THE INFO A GUY COULD NEED..
OOps,, caplox. sorry

Title: Re: proper clutch cable adjustment?
Post by WD on 05/16/14 at 00:12:11

Don't forget to lube it before you adjust it... once the strands dry out, the cable can cause all sorts of "fun", "neat", more like annoying, quirks to occur. Do the rear brake cable at the same time. Gear oil, until it oozes out the end of the housing. Takes a while, but worth it.

Title: Re: proper clutch cable adjustment?
Post by LS650THUMPER on 05/22/14 at 18:14:56

clutch works but when lever is released seems like it is not tight enough. have to nudge with my fingers to get lever back to rest position. would adjustment at case be the issue. knurled knobs are almost backed out as far as needed.  :o

Title: Re: proper clutch cable adjustment?
Post by Steve H on 05/22/14 at 19:57:46

There should be a nickel's width of free play or maybe just a little more at the perch to make sure.  That way you'll know it's engaging all the way.  I find that usually the vibration will move mine right back the tiny little way that is left to go.

You can back out on it a little at the case and then go in some with the knurled adjuster at the handle.

Title: Re: proper clutch cable adjustment?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/22/14 at 22:00:55

It shouldnt go all the way out when ya let go. It SHOULD always go the same amount. It should be able to move in & out w/o any effort a little. Like the guy said, if you can use the end of your little finger & puch the lever "in" & slip a nickel in the gap where the lever meets the perch, youre on,,

Title: Re: proper clutch cable adjustment?
Post by Andy RN on 04/16/19 at 19:59:45


63706766797472707B24150 wrote:
And check with the handlebars turned either way... lock to lock.

And check the clutch lever on the tranny.
there's 2 marks behind the lever... should be between them.


My clutch actuating lever (near the tranny) is just above the top line. What should I do?

Title: Re: proper clutch cable adjustment?
Post by verslagen1 on 04/16/19 at 20:20:15


445045424648290 wrote:
[quote author=63706766797472707B24150 link=1400179098/0#2 date=1400182513]And check with the handlebars turned either way... lock to lock.

And check the clutch lever on the tranny.
there's 2 marks behind the lever... should be between them.


My clutch actuating lever (near the tranny) is just above the top line. What should I do?
[/quote]

You need to install a longer throw out rod.  they come in 3 sizes, get all 3 and don't worry about what size you need.

22-1
ROD, CLUTCH PUSH (L:44.5MM)
23111-24B00-445
$4.35
22-2
ROD, CLUTCH PUSH (L:45.5MM)
23111-24B00-455
$4.35
22-3
ROD, CLUTCH PUSH (L:46.5MM)
23111-24B00-465

Title: Re: proper clutch cable adjustment?
Post by Andy RN on 04/16/19 at 20:23:35

Thanks, Verslagen.

So is it pointless to try and make adjustments at the tranny?

Also, the bike only has 12K miles on it. My previous Savage never had this problem - even though I rode to to 45K (before the cam chain tensioner broke)... Any thoughts on why the clutch push rod would be failing?

Title: Re: proper clutch cable adjustment?
Post by verslagen1 on 04/16/19 at 21:56:15

the clutch rod can wear
the cable can stretch
the discs can wear
or the basket can wear.

Title: Re: proper clutch cable adjustment?
Post by verslagen1 on 04/16/19 at 22:28:23

Install the longest one you can without compressing the clutch when you tighten down the cover.
Measure how long the rod sticks out of the pack, 12.5mm is what I strive for.

Title: Re: proper clutch cable adjustment?
Post by Andy RN on 04/17/19 at 17:37:12


465542435C5157555E01300 wrote:
the clutch rod can wear
the cable can stretch
the discs can wear
or the basket can wear.

Gotchya. I just think it's peculiar that this happened after so few miles on this bike, and didn't happen on my previous Savage. Again, thanks for the info - now I have to scour Clymer's so I can perform this operation.

Title: Re: proper clutch cable adjustment?
Post by Andy RN on 04/17/19 at 17:37:58


7C6F2B0 wrote:
Don't forget to lube it before you adjust it... once the strands dry out, the cable can cause all sorts of "fun", "neat", more like annoying, quirks to occur. Do the rear brake cable at the same time. Gear oil, until it oozes out the end of the housing. Takes a while, but worth it.

How exactly do you lube the cable? And how do you know if it's stretched or not? Thanks.

Title: Re: proper clutch cable adjustment?
Post by verslagen1 on 04/17/19 at 18:55:18


342035323638590 wrote:
[quote author=7C6F2B0 link=1400179098/0#5 date=1400224331]Don't forget to lube it before you adjust it... once the strands dry out, the cable can cause all sorts of "fun", "neat", more like annoying, quirks to occur. Do the rear brake cable at the same time. Gear oil, until it oozes out the end of the housing. Takes a while, but worth it.

How exactly do you lube the cable? And how do you know if it's stretched or not? Thanks.
[/quote]
the baggy technique.
take the cable off (you don't have to, but at least have both ends free)
push the end of the cable thru a corner of a plastic baggy.
you might need to wrap a rubber band around the corner to make it seal tight on the cable.
put oil in the baggy then wait for it to drip on the other end.

a cable is too stretched when it breaks in 2 or you can no longer adjust it.

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