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Title: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 12/03/13 at 07:26:54 Hi everyone, new savage owner here with a project I think you all might find cool. I picked up a 1986 LS 650 for cheap and my buddy happens to have just opened a custom shop Forever Two Wheels, doing mostly HD work. This kid is a pro welder with mad skillz. We are going for a show quality, not your average chop job, really different looking bike that can still be ridden on a regular basis. Check out the progress so far. www.forevertwowheelsmaine.com Here it is a perfectly good (yet very crusty) working and riding 86 savage. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 12/03/13 at 07:35:19 First couple hours of tear down.... Check out my buddy Nick's shop www.forevertwowheelsmaine.com |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 12/03/13 at 07:53:00 oopps here's a pic |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 12/03/13 at 09:28:54 polishing up the front forks here is the before: http://i42.tinypic.com/28w18if.jpg And after: http://i42.tinypic.com/5mh2mx.jpg |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 12/03/13 at 12:38:32 measuring for tank placement. Oh ya, custom tank for sure! http://i40.tinypic.com/2i1fw3r.jpg |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 12/03/13 at 14:11:28 Thanks for the help Dave! Here is Nick making sparks with my new handmade handlebar risers. http://i40.tinypic.com/28gs85x.jpg |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 12/04/13 at 11:46:00 Bending up some handlebar risers. We are going for that real narrow forward bend drag bar look....you'll see when it's all done. http://i42.tinypic.com/34iia6p.jpg Lined up risers: http://i43.tinypic.com/221glg.jpg www.forevertwowheelsmaine.com |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Ragnar444 on 12/04/13 at 13:47:30 Good luck on the build my friend, Can't wait to see the finished product. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by old_rider on 12/05/13 at 07:05:39 Where bouts you from Dif? Ask yer bud if he buys bikes to fab...LOL I have a road glide i'm selling for 9k, garage kept 2007, has 53k on it. Just a thought mind you, if he's close enough. Good luck on your build looks like its in good hands. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 12/05/13 at 09:12:56 Hey Old Rider, we are up in the northern north east. Maine! That's a good price for a Road Glide, you should have no problem selling that. This is what a couple hours of sanding can do for your side covers.... Before: http://i42.tinypic.com/e5jvi8.jpg after: http://i44.tinypic.com/2m77udz.jpg soon the real fabrication will begin ;D www.forevertwowheelsmaine.com |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 12/09/13 at 16:48:20 Got a little bit done today. My seat from Sully's customs came in. I thought about making my own, but hey for $50 I couldn't go wrong with this one. Looks great and the quality is better than I could have done. Here I am placing it on the frame trying to figure out where to mount it. Side view http://i40.tinypic.com/2aka247.jpg Front view http://i41.tinypic.com/20588xv.jpg Rear view http://i42.tinypic.com/2ujpovo.jpg Notice the carb in these seat placement pics? That's what the cover looked like before a little cleaning sanding and cleaning some more. Here's during: http://i41.tinypic.com/fmtf6g.jpg Here's the top cover and float bowl. So far looking good! ;D http://i42.tinypic.com/2gshoqr.jpg |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 12/09/13 at 16:59:48 We did a little grinding and blending on the rear frame rails. It will looks sick after powdercoat! http://i39.tinypic.com/3zx4p.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/2hhpvfq.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/2ajv2g6.jpg http://i44.tinypic.com/288uidl.jpg Knowing a guy with a shop and air tools really helps www.forevertwowheelsmaine.com |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 12/10/13 at 16:01:04 Now the fun stuff! Today the tubing came in for the exhaust we are making. Here is the reverse cone... http://i43.tinypic.com/nq8x92.jpg And here is where it will dump out... http://i39.tinypic.com/30usglf.jpg welding some bends is up next and we should be in business! www.forevertwowheelsmaine.com |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by shadowrider on 12/10/13 at 20:03:16 Im not able to pm you but maybe itd help someone else as well. Since you have the backbone exposed could you please measure it? Across and from the neck to the wishbone? Thanks. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Gerry on 12/11/13 at 04:57:59 That's gonna be cool the way you have the exhaust routed, can't wait to see it done. Gerry |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 12/11/13 at 11:55:27 I'll measure it tonight and let you know shadowrider. Thanks Gerry, I think it's gona look killer!! |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 12/11/13 at 16:33:47 So check this awesomeness out!! My boy Nick from Forever Two Wheels had this great idea for an exhaust baffle. You see, up here in Maine we have some pretty ridiculous inspection laws. We are breaking everyone of them on this build, but excessively loud exhaust will get you a ticket in a heartbeat. Hopefully this will help. So here we have an exhaust tube measured and marked up:[/size]http://i44.tinypic.com/2ic89s5.jpg slots cut: http://i39.tinypic.com/xlwizs.jpg [b]alternating sections pushed in to create pattern see here http://i42.tinypic.com/212wqd2.jpg [size=18]b]And now we have one fully functional exhaust baffle.:[/b] http://i40.tinypic.com/k0lyk1.jpg ;D www.forevertwowheelsmaine.com |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Steve H on 12/11/13 at 19:16:35 It'll be interesting to see how that sounds. It'll create some turbulence in the flow but I am not sure how much it will quiet down the exhaust. It looks good, though. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dave on 12/12/13 at 03:17:15 That is an interesting way to make your own baffle. If that baffle is going into the megaphone housing, I suggest that about half way down the baffle section you block it off completely in the center so that nothing can flow straight through. That way the exhaust (and sound) must exit the baffle and go into the megaphone housing, then the exhaust (and sound) will have to go back into the baffle to exit the muffler. It still is going to be pretty loud.........I betcha! :o |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 12/13/13 at 12:27:05 I like how your thinking Dave! That's a great idea. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/13/13 at 13:44:42 I am wondering if maybe those segments should have been pushed in varying amounts, to slow exhaust gases on the outside edge , too,, |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by ToesNose on 12/16/13 at 04:47:59 Very cool build so far Dfinn, thanks for sharing! Along the lines of what Steve and Dave were hinting at, how about just turning two of the center alternating sections, that might do the trick ;) |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 12/16/13 at 15:10:05 Good advice y'all. Hey Gerry, the backbone measures 13" long and 2 1/2" wide |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 12/16/13 at 17:26:41 Did some Polishing today and a couple other things. Here is the side cover with the oil filter cover polished up real nice. Wow, what a difference! http://i39.tinypic.com/1y5l5t.jpg Check out the megaphone! http://i42.tinypic.com/p1sud.jpg figuring out seat placement: http://i41.tinypic.com/s4awd1.jpg Now here's an idea, cover up those gaps on the rear frame rails with bronze weld. than polish it up and cover it up just before powdercoat. What will be left is a bronze weld looking so so cool. http://i40.tinypic.com/qn484m.jpg |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Gerry on 12/17/13 at 05:04:32 That is my dream or fantasy bike frame, gas welded bronze intersections and mill finish steel tube, with maybe a satin clear coat over all. I have a 1972 Triumph Bonneville that is my next project. I would love to find a Rickman or Seeley frame (original or clone/copy) for a unit twin motor welded like that and put modern forks, alloy rims and brakes on it. Kind of my own new Norton. Project is looking good Dfinn, Gerry |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 12/18/13 at 13:12:32 Correction on the backbone measurement. I stated earlier that the backbone measured 2.5 wide. That's wrong it measures 1.5 wide. So it's 13"L by 1.5" W. shadow rider, that's for you! |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 12/23/13 at 15:04:57 Things are starting to shape up around here! We got some exhaust work done today. First off we had a new collar machined to fit the 2" exhaust. It couldn't be better! Perfect fit.[/size]http://i40.tinypic.com/i739sx.jpg So than we tack welded the first bend and this is what that looks like.[size=20] http://i44.tinypic.com/14n2pfq.jpg We mocked up the exhaust and this is basically how it look. http://i44.tinypic.com/5k5bnq.jpg http://i42.tinypic.com/s5kaol.jpg Than Nick came up with a new idea for the seat. Calling on café racer heritage this is what he was thinking.....I agree it looks great!! http://i43.tinypic.com/2wpp3l1.jpg |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 12/23/13 at 15:11:02 Trying out this sporty tank. Here it is just thrown up there to check out how it will look. I think we are going to cut it down 1 inch and narrow it by 1 inch. We'll see... but now it's starting to look like something. [/size] http://i42.tinypic.com/30a9a9t.jpg Oh and did I mention the seat?!? Calling on café racer heritage/street tracker inspired...[size=20] http://i42.tinypic.com/if8h92.jpg |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dave on 12/24/13 at 04:42:21 Your seat looks great.....but is probably more like a Street Tracker look than a Cafe' look. Street Trackers have the back of the seat turning up like yours.....Cafe' racers have the dome on the back.....although none of this has to follow any hard fast rules. Street Tracker http://i42.tinypic.com/wlwrc5.jpg Cafe' Racer http://i41.tinypic.com/2s0jp6h.jpg I am interested to see the stainless welding......I am really poor at welding stainless with a Mig. Tig is much better for stainless. It is hard to use a welder just once or twice a year, and be any good at it. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 12/26/13 at 10:23:24 LOL! no rules indeed. Call it whatever, I will just call it awesome. I'll post some pics of my buddy Nick's welding when he does it up on this exhaust. He"s good at it so it should look proper. Keep an eye out! www.forevertwowheelsmaine.com |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by S-P on 12/27/13 at 14:00:45 Wow, everything is REALLY cool... except the Coors Light. Reminds me of the Monty Python joke (modified): "Light beer is like making love in a row boat, it's F**king close to water." ;D |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 12/27/13 at 14:29:52 HAHAHA S-P!! I couldn't agree more....I enjoy good craft beer on a regular basis but it's just in there for perspective. Ya know, the masses all know what a Coors light bottle looks like and how big it is. (Actually it's all my buddy had in his fridge that day) The muffler is only as big as this bottle of swill.....But I agree. It's Fuc$#% close to water. LOL! ;DGood one. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by S-P on 12/27/13 at 14:36:03 At least you know he's not "toasted" while he's welding if he's drinking Coors Light. ;D The routing on the exhaust is really cool. I'm anxious to see how all that goes together with the battery etc. Fun stuff! Makes me wish I had a metal shop instead of a carpenter's shop. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 12/27/13 at 18:36:51 Oh sheeeet! I forgot about the battery! :o. Just kidding. Stay tuned and you will see it all come together. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 01/06/14 at 18:40:16 Check out my buddy's shop. Buy some swag. http://i44.tinypic.com/311x6og.jpg www.forevertwowheelsmaine.com |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 01/10/14 at 08:23:47 http://i42.tinypic.com/qnah07.jpg Check this out! My older brothers old Sims Skateboard wheel as a brake light housing. :o I dug this out of my Dad's garage and going with the skate theme here, why not use it for the brake light.!! www.forevertwowheelsmaine.com |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 01/21/14 at 06:31:35 Made the bars yesterday. 9" rise and the actual bars will be a little narrower....but you get the idea http://i39.tinypic.com/2uyklf7.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/28v3s5x.jpg http://i42.tinypic.com/2uztgnn.jpg |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Badass94Cad on 01/21/14 at 06:54:05 Those are pretty funky. I like! 8-) |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 01/25/14 at 11:09:16 I know what your thinking, "why is Dfinn posting a pic of some chick with this chopper?" That Chopper was built and belongs to my pal Nick who's helping me out with this build. He just had a photo shoot for Easyrider Magazine! Here is the Suicide Girl model "bittersweetsuicide" sending out a Tweet about the photo shoot for Easy Rider magazine. http://i40.tinypic.com/qpmi69.jpg www.forevertwowheelsmaine.com |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Steve H on 01/26/14 at 10:47:46 With the exhaust running so close to the carb, I think I'd be worried about vaporlocking after parking it when hot. Or, at least losing gas to evaporation from the heat. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 01/27/14 at 15:22:13 Got some work done today. Here are some pics of welding up the bars: http://i44.tinypic.com/2mrzd49.jpg http://i43.tinypic.com/11wd5lc.jpg Now with the bars done and holding the tank in place, this is starting to look like something! http://i42.tinypic.com/rv9176.jpg www.forevertwowheelsmaine.com[size=22][/size] |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 01/29/14 at 06:30:47 So what do u guys think so far? I meed some more feedback. I also have some booby pics from the photo shoot... Should I post those? That should drum up some chatter :P Just kidding I won't post that. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/29/14 at 06:46:56 Wouldnt post booby pics, you can post a link, but this is a family friendl;y site, TIG is a great system,, makes fine welding clean & easy ( looking), Ive never done it, but Id like a shot at it |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 01/29/14 at 16:31:36 http://i42.tinypic.com/2a68ja1.jpg Skate Deck rear fender! Obviously going to kick ass.....first fitment test, not the final product.[size=18][/size] |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by groupus on 01/30/14 at 12:46:39 Dfinn, killer build and really nice work. Do you know anything about this build? A lot simpler, but very similar. Like, really really similar. Here's the article on BikerMetric http://www.bikermetric.com/some-dude-in-los-angeles-has-a-suzuki-650-single-brat/. The author sounds like he's gone off his meds. He references an article with an earlier version of this bike, and also an interesting interview with the guys from RYCA. You gotta let me know how you mount that tank. I've got a sportster tank I've been puzzling over for a while. http://www.bikermetric.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/suzuki_brat-bobber_machine-13-620x330.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-m1Ne44CLHik/T_KZyDkDlvI/AAAAAAAAK5Y/vB1ZghdVQQM/s640/suzuki_s40-_brat-bobber_machine-13.jpg |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 01/31/14 at 15:33:07 That savage is awesome!! I got the skate deck fender idea from this bike and handlebars . I like that tank better than mine. But that bike inspired this build for sure! |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by redpiranha on 02/01/14 at 15:56:04 The bike looks great . I'm about to start on exhaust for mine . Where did you get the collar for the head pipe? I need to find one or get someone to make one before I can start on my exhaust. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 02/01/14 at 21:19:57 We had a friend machine it for us. I had to pay for it of course... But any machinist can hook you up |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 02/03/14 at 15:24:05 Cut the tank down an 1 1/4" today. Looks much better. http://i59.tinypic.com/4jst4o.jpg Mocked up on the bike http://i60.tinypic.com/6o3a09.jpg http://i60.tinypic.com/28ahjio.jpg http://i60.tinypic.com/2a5wzm0.jpg Oh, and check out the exhaust..... http://i58.tinypic.com/2rca07r.jpg tucked in tight away from the carb |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by EJID on 02/03/14 at 16:14:27 A lot of great work going into this build, but my favorite is by far this exhaust...can't wait to see it completed. 8-) http://i58.tinypic.com/2rca07r.jpg |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by victorbsa on 02/08/14 at 13:13:46 where did ya get the sporster looking tank? Is it from RYCA? can you make more header pipes and sell them to some of us less fortunate individuals? by the way beautiful job on your bike!!! |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by 87 savage on 02/08/14 at 14:34:45 Bike is coming along nicely. You guys are doing some high quality mods! Question, what did you use to polish up your forks and side covers so darn well? |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 02/09/14 at 16:01:54 Thanks for the kind words fellas. That tank is a sportster 2.1 gal peanut tank I got off eBay. I've cut it down a little so it proportional. And as far as what we used on the forks, well it's just a buffer, sandpaper and some good old elbow grease. Not nessasarily in that order. I'll talk to Nick about making more header pipes for all y'all. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Loud3r on 02/10/14 at 12:58:11 Loving the build so far! looks amazing! and i love the headerpipe! Please let me know if you decide to start making the 2". And that tank looks great! |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by ChrisTech on 02/10/14 at 14:02:59 Hey dfinn do you know the bend radius you used on your head pipe, the u bend coming off the head, I'm trying to order a u bend from summit to make one just not sure of the radius i need to get the pipe to rest just above the side case cover |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 02/11/14 at 15:44:38 So I thought I would ask you guys what you think of this cam chain tensioner. It's probably original and it looks good to me, but than again, this is my first Savage. http://i62.tinypic.com/35jw0fb.jpg Now on to figuring out how I'm going to hide the wiring and what to do with this mess.... http://i58.tinypic.com/vraour.jpg :-/ |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by verslagen1 on 02/11/14 at 17:57:49 measure how much it sticks out, 19mm is the recommended max. http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk182/motobuddha/76ab1950.jpg |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 02/17/14 at 13:24:05 I would say that this looks good, what say you? http://i59.tinypic.com/34sjcx5.jpg |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by verslagen1 on 02/17/14 at 14:13:49 good for another 3mm how many miles on it? |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 02/17/14 at 20:17:44 There are 23,000 +\- miles on it. Hey Victorbsa try this for exhaust tubing... www.spdexhaust.com |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 02/19/14 at 15:38:32 I know how much I like seeing pics of progress on these builds....so.....I hope you do to. The tank is finished and welded up. Petcock Bung: http://i61.tinypic.com/311ozv6.jpg http://i57.tinypic.com/28jfdzn.jpg Fuel filler cap: http://i58.tinypic.com/2818s2o.jpg http://i58.tinypic.com/2hwh9s.jpg Really starting to look like something!! |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 02/24/14 at 15:05:34 I can't decide on color scheme for this bike....I change my mind every other day. So I ask you, fellow Savage enthusiasts... What color frame? what color tank? Please chime in with all ideas, pics are good too. Thanks! |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by maxtowers on 02/24/14 at 16:08:23 I would go with a 60's theme due to the style of the build, like flakes, scallops, chrome and all the nine yards... for the colors the more brilliant the better... But naturally that's just me... hope to have been helpful |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by old_rider on 02/25/14 at 09:18:02 Hehehe... ya don't wanna ask me what colors.... Chrome the frame silver... Chrome the tank and fenders brass or gold... Highlight bolts and accessories flat black.... Steam punk baby! LOL :) |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by strang on 02/25/14 at 14:37:34 I'm not even into bobbers and yet this bike is starting to give me a chubby. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 02/26/14 at 11:05:21 Thanks Strang! I like the steam punk idea. I think I might look into that a little more..... What say the rest of you?? What color to paint the tank? The frame? |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by old_rider on 02/27/14 at 09:25:25 Just type steam punk motorcycle in google or yahoo search bar and look at the photo's, some are totally wild, while others are kinda mild.. http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b471/Orphistle/Misc%20Motorcycles/1234821961_5mBM2-M.jpg http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b471/Orphistle/Misc%20Motorcycles/t120-bonneville-2.jpg http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b471/Orphistle/Misc%20Motorcycles/shannonm_o_steampunkmotorcycle2morepicsinemail.jpg |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dave on 02/27/14 at 09:40:44 The metal and welding on the tank is so nice....it would be a shame to cover it with paint. You could polish or brush the steel tank, maybe apply some gold leaf or some striping or color panels with a candy color....then just clear the whole tank. The frame could be brushed steel with a clear coat, or a candy tint as well.....or a darker metal looking color without any flake. There are some nice semi-flat colors that look like cast iron or steel. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Colxjon on 02/27/14 at 15:41:07 If you decide to clear the bare metal I would look into clear powder coating. Im pretty sure clearing bare metal will make the clear turn yellow and or flake off. Although i have heard of certain products that you prep the metal with to prevent all that but just do your homework so you dont end up with a headache. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 02/28/14 at 05:44:05 Thanks for the input fellas. I talked with an airbrush artist yesterday and we got some cool ideas floating around. Dave, I am taking your advice and keeping the welds bare and raw. There will be some bare metal showing and graffiti type street art going on all with a clear coat of course. Here is a quick scketch that I came up with, and trust me I aint no artist. I named the bike El Gordo...go ahead.....google it. Who knows what the final product will look like, but one thing is for sure. I love posting pics of this build and you guys will see it, that's a promise! |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 03/03/14 at 16:38:36 Made a bracket for the exhaust today....now it's starting to look like a motorcycle!! I think I might have to lower the front...something looks odd in this pic. http://i60.tinypic.com/dma1yx.jpg http://i58.tinypic.com/18jaet.jpg http://i57.tinypic.com/24w9evs.jpg http://i59.tinypic.com/2m29swo.jpg these pics came out so small...I don't know why... |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 03/04/14 at 15:31:12 http://i61.tinypic.com/20hsjh0.jpg http://i59.tinypic.com/2z7h4er.jpg Check it out! Brake light/license plate holder. Done![size=18][/size] www.forevertwowheelsmaine.com http://i61.tinypic.com/33o40vs.jpghttp://i57.tinypic.com/xo17rc.jpg |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by old_rider on 03/05/14 at 14:10:28 Looking good! Hey I see your bud did a Road Glide build... if he has a glide let him know the roadglide.org guys are having a "shark week (nick name for the road glide)" in maine this year. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 03/07/14 at 06:12:02 Checking out the riding stance. Wicked narrow and and small Notice the sportster headlight ;D |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 03/12/14 at 05:47:40 New bigger pics added, mostly of the exhaust. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 03/12/14 at 15:34:51 http://i58.tinypic.com/2i94bwn.jpg Got a sight gauge now! You see, this WAS a 2.1 gal shell, but it looked to big on this bike so I cut 1.25 inches off the bottom. Now it's, well...less than 2.1 gal. This was a must. http://i61.tinypic.com/2gxpo40.jpg www.forevertwowheelsmaine.com |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by schleppy on 03/14/14 at 09:20:58 Great build! Thanks for posting so many pics! |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by S-P on 03/15/14 at 16:05:19 282B23352E232235470 wrote:
I LOVE the steam punk stuff! If it didn't look so expensive to do I'd be totally there! |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 03/21/14 at 07:12:25 Someone asked how we are going to mount the tank, so here it is. Drill holes, weld bungs, make brackets, weld on brackets...done. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 03/31/14 at 12:32:44 The engine is painted! Looks 100% better. Before: http://i58.tinypic.com/2n1fep5.jpg After: http://i60.tinypic.com/1zz00w6.jpg Powder coat parts are back!! Now to start putting this project back together! ;D http://i58.tinypic.com/25q89ic.jpg |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 04/08/14 at 16:01:23 Oh ya and to hide all the wiring.....that will take a while to figure out :-/ |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 04/21/14 at 15:56:25 All parts, frame, swingarm and stuff is back from powdercoat!! Pics soon to follow. ;D |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 04/28/14 at 15:35:51 http://i60.tinypic.com/6hkiaa.jpg Fresh powder coat....almost assembled |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 05/02/14 at 11:32:08 So I must have miss placed about 50% of the nuts bolts and washers involved in this project....oy vay! I was hoping to finish the assembly yesterday but I spent 4 hours looking for nuts, put the wheels on And mounted the engine. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by ironhorseprop3 on 05/08/14 at 01:59:08 Great welds on the bike so far its looking awesome, keep the updates coming brother. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 05/19/14 at 16:37:46 Getting close to being done here. Check out the pics so far. All mocked up. just need to finish the wiring and cables. http://i62.tinypic.com/6r0q2p.jpg http://i58.tinypic.com/2mgnrwo.jpg http://i61.tinypic.com/2iag2ok.jpg http://i57.tinypic.com/34haz4o.jpg |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by quentin99 on 05/19/14 at 17:30:19 That engine paint looks good. What paint did you use? |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 05/20/14 at 06:05:01 I used Harley Davidson high temp gloss black. And what HD calls "Silver Bead Blast" |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by quentin99 on 05/20/14 at 06:20:45 How many cans? Did you just pressure wash the engine and then spray it? |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 05/21/14 at 09:01:06 I used maybe 1/2 a can I black and less than 1/2 of the silver bead blast. I didn't pressure wash but instead used carb cleaner and sandpaper. Lastly, some elbow grease. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by quentin99 on 05/21/14 at 09:07:13 Oh sweet I'll have to pick some up soon. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by ChrisTech on 05/21/14 at 13:22:19 I ran my exhaust pipe almost the same as yours, mine came out on the opposite side but the same place. I have been cooking by butt every stoplight, and in traffic, will be re-routing soon. Just givin some tried and true advice |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 05/22/14 at 12:44:39 I am concerned about the exhaust doing just that... Cooking my tushy! Did u ever have gas evaporating from the float bowl. Issues? It looks so mean I hate to think about changing it... :( |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 05/28/14 at 10:09:00 I'm having the gas tank painted and it will look SICK!! Almost done...pics soon to follow. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 05/29/14 at 17:04:05 :-/ I can't post a pic of the painted tank from my iPhone... .. :'( |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 05/29/14 at 17:39:23 https://m.facebook.com/Clarkatbigmoose You can see the tank on my Facebook page |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 06/05/14 at 10:12:03 Wiring this beast starts today! Wish me luck |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by EJID on 06/05/14 at 12:29:09 Tried to link it from your post... not sure who all will be able to see it, but I think it looks good (Must have some sort of story to go with it) http://https://fbcdn-photos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-0/p320x320/10421133_310594789097242_1836669826034863593_n.jpg |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 06/05/14 at 15:49:26 Thanks for doing that!! So the story goes like this: A few years ago Roland Sans made a bike called "El Barracho" it means the drunkard. I thought, that's cool... Naming your bike something and doing it in Spanish. I'm an Irish dude from Northern New England... Go figure. So the original decal on th stock savage tank said "the Big Single". I looked up that literal translation and one of the choices was El Gordo. The english equivalent to "The Fat One". Seems appropriate.... Big fat single cylinder! The painter surprised me with the fat Mexican dude on there. I love it! He also did some 80's skateboard logos on the sides for me since I have a skate deck fender and wheel for a brake light housing. Thanks for asking! ;D |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by S-P on 06/05/14 at 16:40:14 Very cool tank! It's looking great!! |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 07/09/14 at 11:15:27 Its been like 3 weeks since I worked on this bad Larry.... Tomorrow is my day off and I am getting stuff done. More updates in 24 hours |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 07/10/14 at 18:30:19 Looking like something! |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 07/12/14 at 06:24:04 I need some fender ideas... I got this skate deck thing going but now.... I don't know. WhAt do u guys think? |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 07/17/14 at 16:38:35 Made some progress today. Nick at Forever Two Wheels made a decompression control on his new lathe. http://i62.tinypic.com/2f03vw5.jpg http://i57.tinypic.com/258s1ae.jpg And a new place to mount the coil. http://i59.tinypic.com/bevtip.jpg Some pics of the almost finished bike http://i62.tinypic.com/i4ljwz.jpg http://i61.tinypic.com/jjv15c.jpg http://i61.tinypic.com/2yww9wp.jpg Can't wait to ride ;D |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dave on 07/18/14 at 09:12:36 That knob for the decompression lever looks nice....now you need to make a longer lever to give you more leverage. I don't believe you are going to be strong enough to push the exhaust valves open with that tiny lever that the solenoid cable pulled on. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 07/18/14 at 19:49:09 Dave, how far should the lever open up? I mean how much does it really move? I can move it now up about 1/8 inch. Curious to know what I'll need to do.... |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dave on 07/19/14 at 05:02:35 The lever should move easily to the point that it contacts the rocker arm, and sometimes the valves are open and you can move it easily far enough to hold the valves open. When the engine is in this position the exhaust stroke was in process......and the starter will be able to turn the engine over easily and get it running - even if you didn't use the compression release. The big question is can you move the lever to lift the valves open if they are closed? The problem in starting the engine is when the engine has decided to stop on the compression stroke, and when you hit the starter button the engine is instantly making compression before the starter has been able to get some momentum going on the crank flywheel, etc. The starter may be able to turn a stock engine over on a warm day when the oil is thin - but the compression release is most likely required on very cold morning when the oil is thick and the battery is not as good as providing power.......we have to remember that Suzuki sells this bike to folks all over the world and the bike should start reliably when the temperature is way below freezing (not riding weather in my opinion). So....back to the topic.....when the exhaust valves are closed, you need to be able to rotate the compression release lever enough to lift the exhaust valves off the seats and let a bit of the compression leak past the exhaust valves and allow the piston to come over top dead center just once.....after that the engine has enough momentum that the starter can continue to turn the engine over on the compression stroke. If you ride in warm weather.....probably 99 out of 100 starts you can hit the starter button and the engine will turn over and start fine. Every now and then the piston will be on the compression stroke when you hit the starter button....and that is when you need the compression release. With the stock piston the starter may still be able to muscle the piston over - with the Wiseco and higher compression it can't, and on my bike when that happens the starter instantly stops turning the motor over. I have a handlebar mounted lever and I pull in the lever, hit the starter, and release the lever and the engine fires right up. I am not sure how easily you can reach down and manually use the lever mounted on the head...especially when you happen to stall the bike in traffic and need to hold the clutch lever in at the same time.....which most likely won't happen often. Dave |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 07/20/14 at 09:28:35 Thanks Dave, great advice! |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 09/04/14 at 19:25:37 Made some progress with wiring today. First day working on the ol girl in about 2 months. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dfinn on 09/04/14 at 19:26:50 Homemade wiring harness... Fingers crossed. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by strang on 09/06/14 at 10:32:02 frickin love that muffler. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Tony from tdot on 10/23/14 at 12:51:00 hey im starting my savage build, keep the updates coming!! |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by maxtowers on 01/24/15 at 15:05:04 We needs updates!!! And from my side, i'm particularly interested in the wiring, as i'm about to change my tank to an aftermarket sportster and i have little to no space to fit all those wires... ergo, i guess i have to re-wire at least the section that fits right under the tank... keep up the good work:) |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by dhsmithh on 04/02/15 at 15:04:49 this thing looks awesome can't wait to see it all ready! |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by 05ss45 on 07/31/15 at 18:05:10 Sweet work man! |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by squiggy on 07/31/15 at 18:20:51 No updates in almost a year. :( |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by strang on 08/01/15 at 03:28:03 615A5740515D46405B535E41320 wrote:
Is this the deal? So if you run manual decomp and just do summer riding you can: - 9 times out of ten, just hit start and go. - the 1 time out of 10 the engine is stuck on compression stroke and the starter/battery can't push it over -> you have to lean over and use the manual decomp. Weighing up decomp options and have been looking at relocating stock decomp module but if the above is true I might just keep it neanderthal and use a manual lever. Riding London traffic, a few stalls is inevitable however. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by 05ss45 on 08/06/15 at 07:32:46 I love the seat set up. What seat is that? Any links. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dave on 08/06/15 at 08:32:07 68444949404B1716250 wrote:
It has been 11 months since Dfinn last signed onto this forum - I hope is OK and just out riding way too much to post any updates. |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dave on 11/20/17 at 08:38:38 Is it possible that Dfinn is parting out his project? https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-2017-SAVAGE-LS650P-LS-650-Custom-HAND-BUILT-EXHAUST-PIPE-CHOPPER-BOBBER/192365563757?hash=item2cc9e18f6d:g:PwUAAOSwcB5ZLJMJ&vxp=mtr |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Christof13T on 11/20/17 at 21:30:03 1B202D3A2B273C3A2129243B480 wrote:
That is absolutely the bike from this thread... And look at the ebay user name! I see he has a few other random savage parts for sale but not like the whole bike in pieces... |
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Title: Re: 1986 Savage FTW bob chop build Post by Dave on 11/21/17 at 03:05:32 It could be that he just doesn't want that muffler.....I know I wouldn't want the exhaust coming out under my right butt cheek! I will send him a message through eBay.....and see if he responds. |
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