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Title: Is Obama in control?? Post by Starlifter on 06/12/13 at 18:27:32 Is Obama in control? Or is he being controlled? Is he simply a placeholder for the elites doing the best he can to be progressive yet hamstrung, or is he really just a tool of the secret society NWO corporofascists. OR is he simply a man who does what he is doing (especially the wars and the wall street protection) because he does not want to be JFK's or RFDK's or MLK'd or Malcolm X'd (and will not risk his family's safety even if he wanted to). Bush was a useful tool...too stupid to do anything but obey his masters behind the curtains as long as they kept him in booze and coke. I happen to be a person who BELIEVES in a global fascist (corporofascist) "conspiracy" - yet I have so much WANTED to believe in Obama. I wanted him to be TRULY different (a JFK or RFK or MLK or even a Malcolm or an amalgamation of them all). Obama doesn't really have the power to do a lot of the things we wish (and I'm sure he wishes) he could. He had to kiss a lot of rings (asses) to even get permission to run for President, let alone be ALLOWED to win…. The President doesn't run this country, international banks and a handful of super-rich families do…. We have to realize that our Democracy is screwed up to the point that the President really can't change the big injustices inherent in the system. The last president that tried, got his head blown off in front of his wife in Texas…. |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by oldNslow on 06/12/13 at 18:41:41 Quote:
I don't know. I've been scratchin' my head and trying to figure out where the hell he came from, and how he got to be the president, from the very first time I ever laid eyes on him. Absolutely nothing about the guy and what we know of his history makes any sense to me. |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/12/13 at 20:18:37 The answer is simple.. YES, he is controlled.Well,, NO,, He isnt.. If youre riding a horse back to the narn & he KNOWS its time to go eat & go to the barn, are YOU really controlling him? You agree on the desired destination.. NOW, IF he wasnt willing to go where "They" want him to go, Then he would be controlled. Look at who has been the "advisers" in DC since JFK was killed., Allways the same sources. Its TRilateral commission, BIS, B/berger members, etc,, ALL globalist think tanks,, Thats who runs America & has since JFK was killed.,The MIC, Globalists, dude, its so obvious,, BUT, Bammy is Happy to go the direction they want. REmember, Hillary Was lookin like the Dem candidate. Then, Bammy & she slipped away to the B/berger meeting. HE suddenly Flew to the top of the heap & she got her a Great Gig,, Its a Huge Game, people,, |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by Midnightrider on 06/12/13 at 20:38:52 I've always wondered after elected when you go into the Whitehouse some not a very nice person comes up and says you do what we say or your head gets blowed off or your kids dissapear. Anyone could figure out the Federal Reserve kidnapped Lindberg's child. He had balls enough to stand up against them and his child disappeared. There's definitely something going on in the background, Kennedy was going to expose it and his head got blown off. Bush went along with it above and beyond his duty. If this nation is going to survive there almost has to be another civil war, not the north against the south but the working man and poor against the 5% who have all the money and keep screwing us. Congress is doing absolutely nothing to help us. They run on promises they never keep. I think Romney was the best governor Mass. ever had but who or what made him do a 180 on healthcare that is working well in Mass. Romney worked well with the Dems and Pubs alike but when he decided to run for president all that changed and he did a 180 on everything he believed in in Mass.I voted for Obama the first time but something scared me into not voting for him the 2nd time. Now its just one scandal after another. He's wasted too much time trying to do away with the 2nd and 4th amendment when he should have been helping the middle class as he promised and the economy. Maybe he's been ordered to do away with the 2nd amendment but if there's anytime in your life you ever needed a gun its now. The powers that be know this, whoever they are. |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by oldNslow on 06/13/13 at 06:10:58 Midnightrider wrote: Quote:
I didn't vote for him either time, but I think I understand how you feel. Sort of like that little voice in the back of your head when you first meet someone that tells you: "I don't know exactly what it is, but this guy creeps me out. Watch out" I've always felt that way about Obama. I'm not the smartest guy around, but over the course of a fairly long life I've learned to trust my gut. |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by Paraquat on 06/13/13 at 06:14:18 77686E6974734272427A68642F1D0 wrote:
Interesting analogy. --Steve |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 06/13/13 at 08:14:14 Star - Are your joining the conspiracy guys too? Is every misfortune that strikes someone the result of some conspiracy against him? Frankly, all of this blaming an international conglomeration of evil doers reminds me a bit of who was being falsely blamed for Germany's economic and political troubles in the 1930s - the international Jewish conspiracy. Midnight - You're starting to frighten me a bit - The Fed kidnapped the Lindberg baby - that's a new one I haven't heard before. The day a Pres. gets elected, he gets a lecture on how to behave from some dark, unknown source? Gimme a break. Every time a person takes a position against something, he pays with the life of himself or his kid? Again, gimme a break. |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by Paraquat on 06/13/13 at 09:13:27 ...but why, Jerry, does such doubt exist? Is it really merely a string of unfortunate coincidences or is it demonstrating a history of intent? --Steve |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 06/13/13 at 09:27:39 Such doubt exists because there is never proof of any of the conspiracy theories - just people pre-supposing the obscure in an attempt to escape the obvious. Back to Star's question: Obama is not in control of much because he has no education or experience in controlling or running any sort of enterprise. 5 years now of simply having a title doesn't qualify. Being a law professor ( I suffered thru my share of them ), and a community organizer hardly qualifies him to be in control of anything. |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by srinath on 06/13/13 at 09:38:31 4A45494348454E424552474552200 wrote:
Oh ... oh ... oh ... but but but ... I thought the constitution says people from all walks of life should be politicians and then when done go back to their old life ... Or some crap like that ... that's what the system was designed for ... And when you show me qualifications of the very famous and well qualified Bush ... I'd say OK. The problem is career politicians ... Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by Midnightrider on 06/13/13 at 09:57:13 Jerry everyone that has ever went up against the Federal Reserve something bad has happened to them. Lindberg and Kennedy are just 2 examples. Kennedy with his silver certificate tried to do away with the Federal Reserve. The one with the most to lose, the Federal Reserve was in on Kennedy's killing, people we know. That's why the official report will never be released in our lifetime. Lindberg stood up against them in Congress and looked what happened. Lindbergs biggest enemy kidnapped his kid.There's many more examples.The Federal Reserve has all the money and all the power. They just give away 16 trillion behind our backs, some of it went to terrorist backed organizations. Some of it went to Wall St. They wanted us to think Wall St paid the money back. I'm sure you're a great lawyer but you would make a lousy cop. One of these days people are going to get tired of being kicked out of their homes and going hungry while everyone in Washington and Wall St is making billions. Whats the Dept of Homeland Security and 1.6 billion illegal bullets all about. How many lies have come out of Washington to make more money and start wars. Jerry I'm sure you hang out with a better class of people than I do but my crowd is getting sick and dam tired of it. |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by WebsterMark on 06/13/13 at 10:05:14 Oh ... oh ... oh ... but but but ... I thought the constitution says people from all walks of life should be politicians and then when done go back to their old life ... Or some crap like that ... that's what the system was designed for ... And when you show me qualifications of the very famous and well qualified Bush ... I'd say OK. The problem is career politicians ... Sure, people from all walks of life can be politicians, but their experience and backgrounds are still valid. Bush was a governor and ran a business. He was not born to a wealthy family per se; they made money later. One thing to consider about career politicians is they learn how to work within the system and you can pregnant dog all you want about the system, but all of us have a roof over our heads and food on the table. Can’t say that about a lot of the world. |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by WebsterMark on 06/13/13 at 10:10:49 Jerry; if you’ve been following my ongoing attempt to show Jog; Star; Midnight and Rat how 9/11 wasn’t a conspiracy (and I don’t blame you for not following it….) you see how difficult it can be to break someone’s mindset away from a tendency to tie random events to a single source. It is beyond me how this gets stuck in some people’s head, but it does. I’m determined to see this through and remove the idea that 9/11 was an inside job. Wish me luck…. |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by Midnightrider on 06/13/13 at 10:14:06 Web as far as I know you've never said who's responsible for 911. Go ahead and spit it out or are you afraid you'll be wrong. Still believe its Iraq like your hero lied to us about? |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by Paraquat on 06/13/13 at 11:11:33 48474B414A474C404750454750220 wrote:
You've admitted you're a lawyer. Do you always have proof or have you ever argued motive, opportunity, intent? What about when there are conflicting reports, or actual tangible evidence? http://www.tytruth.com/ Check out this guy. JOG turned me on to him. Quote:
Nothing weird there, right? Probably gang related violence because he was a police officer. I can't believe how you can possibly paint everything as black and white. --Steve |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by WebsterMark on 06/13/13 at 12:26:49 Web as far as I know you've never said who's responsible for 911. Go ahead and spit it out or are you afraid you'll be wrong. Still believe its Iraq like your hero lied to us about? Get this through your thick skull Midnight: I never said Bush was my hero and I never said "Iraq" did it. I think the evidence points to KSM as the primary planner. |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by Starlifter on 06/13/13 at 18:46:03 "Bush was a governor and ran a business. He was not born to a wealthy family". ...You must be joking. I have noticed from your recent posts that you are becoming even more unhinged... I wish you well. |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/13/13 at 21:06:32 1C3B2E3D2326293B2A3D4F0 wrote:
Bush ran several businesses,, every one of them straight into the ground. AS for not being born into a wealthy family, you couldnt be more wrong,,His G/pa was making a load trading with the Nazis, lost some of it to the law,, BUt, th Bush family is tremendously wealthy, & criminal,. |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 06/14/13 at 05:44:02 Kinda like old man Joe Kennedy who made his fortune running liquor during Prohibition. |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by Starlifter on 06/14/13 at 20:39:24 Yes Jerry, a crook is a crook. |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by Serowbot on 06/14/13 at 23:54:05 360403121504132C00130A610 wrote:
This is beyond all reckoning... Read something, Webster... |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by WebsterMark on 06/15/13 at 07:15:45 beyond all reckoning?... really ...I think perhaps the class envy disease is striking you guys again as my definition of rich and yours are two vastly different things.... Clearly you read enough, but not sure you get out enough.... |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by Midnightrider on 06/15/13 at 09:27:50 Web I don't claim to be smart, but I do have common sense and I try not to dislike anyone. Who is the KSM? First time I can remember hearing that term. |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by srinath on 06/17/13 at 11:45:19 01252822252B24383E2528293E4C0 wrote:
KSM is Khalid Sheikh Mehmood, the self professed and semi confessed planner and leader of the arm of Al Quaida that was responsible for carrying out the 9/11 attacks. Seriously, these guys have done that and several other attacks of varying success and are proud of it. They have carried out similar operations in and against India and are similarly proud of those ... Unless you conspiracy nuts can explain all of those including ones you have not even heard of - I can only watch this fight, you're fencing with wet noodles and that is both sides (not the both sides I refer to in the posts where Bush is implicated in something going wrong ... ) LOL. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Is Obama in control?? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/20/13 at 22:38:33 Waterboarding is a form of torture in which water is poured over cloth covering the face and breathing passages of an immobilized captive, causing the individual to experience the sensation of drowning. Waterboarding can cause extreme pain, dry drowning, damage to lungs, brain damage from oxygen deprivation, other physical injuries including broken bones due to struggling against restraints, lasting psychological damage, and death.[1] Adverse physical consequences can manifest themselves months after the event, while psychological effects can last for years.[2] The term water board torture appears in press reports as early as 1976.[3] The captive's face is usually covered with cloth or some other thin material, and the subject is immobilized on his/her back. Interrogators pour water onto the face over the breathing passages, causing an almost immediate gag reflex and creating the sensation for the captive that he is drowning.[4][5][6] In the fall of 2007, it was widely reported that the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) was using waterboarding on extrajudicial prisoners and that the Office of Legal Counsel, Department of Justice had authorized the procedure among enhanced interrogation techniques.[7][8] Senator John McCain noted that in World War II, the United States military hanged Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American prisoners of war.[9] The CIA confirmed having used waterboarding on three Al-Qaeda suspects: Abu Zubaydah, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, in 2002 and 2003.[10][11] Waterboarding - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding[ch8206] Jump to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed – Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times while being interrogated by the CIA. Pakistani intelligence ... Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times while being interrogated by the CIA. Pakistani intelligence ... Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times while being interrogated by the CIA. Pakistani intelligence ... ANY "admission" means nothing, |
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