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Message started by skelly15 on 12/12/12 at 06:47:37

Title: Battery Options
Post by skelly15 on 12/12/12 at 06:47:37

Looking for a smaller Lion battery to put in my bike, what do you guys recommend?

Title: Re: Battery Options
Post by Dave on 12/12/12 at 08:00:22

Plenty of discussion in previous posts.

Just scan down the Rubber Side Down Subject on the left side of the page and look for battery discussion.

This one was on the 4th page:
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1354066439

This one was a few pages farther back:
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1353928477/6#6

Or you can go to the Technical Seciton and look in the Index, and find stuff like this:
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1259644714

Title: Re: Battery Options
Post by braveteacher on 12/12/12 at 12:47:02

http://suzuki-s40-ratbrat.weebly.com/page-4.html

Page 4 , 7, 8 have pics of my ballistic battery and placement...works fine...have had no problems cranking...

Title: Re: Battery Options
Post by skelly15 on 12/12/12 at 17:35:47

Some of the Tech links say I do not have access do not know what is going on with that.

Title: Re: Battery Options
Post by verslagen1 on 12/12/12 at 17:53:34

637B757C7C692125100 wrote:

Some of the Tech links say I do not have access do not know what is going on with that.

There are no lockouts for regular/new members.

If you do not have access, most likely a security/virus setting on your computer... or a compatibility mode.

Title: Re: Battery Options
Post by HondaLavis on 12/12/12 at 18:06:37

I can't seem to view the mini-battery mod thread, either. I don't even see it listed in the Tech section. Weird. :-?

The last post in the 2nd link had some good info on the mini-bat install I did. I used the large bracket in front of the swing arm. The battery has been great, and I've had no issues. Always starts up, even when it's cold.

If you have any questions, you're welcome to PM me. I'd be glad to send any pics if necessary.

Title: Re: Battery Options
Post by verslagen1 on 12/12/12 at 18:20:58

Mini-battery install (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1259644714)

Title: Re: Battery Options
Post by oldNslow on 12/12/12 at 18:24:15

53405756494442404B14250 wrote:

Mini-battery install (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1259644714)

Just tried this link. I'm not allowed to go there either :-[ Must be some really secret stuff ;)

Title: Re: Battery Options
Post by verslagen1 on 12/12/12 at 18:29:33

There are some links to sellers sites, if you got anti spam it might not let you in... I'll have to try some things... let me know if this thread disappears.

7479637A7362776472160 wrote:

Ok guys, I finally got the Thanksgiving pies baked and that stupid dishwasher installed and most importantly, replaced the battery on my bike with a small one and mounted it on the "shelf" or emissions/muffler mount thingy below the swingarm.

On some other thread I mentioned that the largest battery that would fit there is a Yuasa YTZ7S. There are smaller batteries of different chemistry that are a little smaller and still provide enough starting amperage, but they cost a fortune. The Yuasa is also sold for a few bucks less as the Motocross YTZ7S. Still made in Japan by Yuasa.

http://i38.tinypic.com/zo6qur.jpg

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Some other things I gathered were the connectors and a boot for the + terminal. The connectors are for 6 gauge wire which is larger than necessary, but I had to cram a couple extra wires in there for the horn relay. There is also an extra wire that goes from the negative terminal to the brain box. I didn't know what kind of boot to get, so I just cut the stock one to match the connector and battery.

http://i46.tinypic.com/dwykw6.jpg

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A few other supplies are some 3/8" threaded rod, a couple of wingnuts to match, and some 1 3/8" wide, 1/16" thick metal stock with the 3/8" holes. I didn't get a picture of the 8 gauge wire or heat shrink insulation, but obviously you need some electical stuff not shown.

http://i45.tinypic.com/125jfh5.jpg

Title: Re: Battery Options
Post by verslagen1 on 12/12/12 at 18:37:21

252767647D60727D66712522140 wrote:

I like the idea. I've been trying to figure out something to do with the battery other than sticking it in a saddle bag (somehow that doesn't seem safe to me but to each their own).
Did some searching and found the same battery a few bucks cheaper here: www.tristatebattery.com/product_info.php?products_id=760
later

Title: Re: Battery Options
Post by Cavi Mike on 12/13/12 at 03:35:53

I get the same message as well when I click this link:
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1259644714

Title: Re: Battery Options
Post by 12Bravo on 12/13/12 at 05:38:11

So did I. Do believe it is a setting on the board not on people's computer.

Title: Re: Battery Options
Post by verslagen1 on 12/13/12 at 07:18:29

Sorry fixed.

Title: Re: Battery Options
Post by tomw on 12/19/12 at 13:16:01

I've had A shorai lithium iron going on three years now, no problem I live in Michigan never take the battery out ever, I do try to start the bike one a month. Its less then 2 lb. so small got it mounted to the exhausted bracket under swing arm and I,am sure it takes a lot of vibes down their bought it from battery stuff.com Was pricey at the time but couldn't find them any where else this battery has 210 cca ah rate of 14 model LFX14A2-BS12 oh the battery case is made out of military spec carbon fiber composite what ever that means. I don't run a lot of lights just headlight blinkers tail and brake has ben change over to led's if your going to run a lot of lighting on your bike do your homework some of these small battery's cant make enough juice or amps to run them and some of the super small battery's for road racers used for starting the bikes only.

Title: Re: Battery Options
Post by Polar_Pilot on 12/19/12 at 16:19:15

I purchasd a Shorai Lithium Iron battery last fall. It came with a stack of soft plastic parts to fill up the battery box.
I am puzzled why folks would put it in any other location

Title: Re: Battery Options
Post by Cavi Mike on 12/19/12 at 16:49:28

445F5D47300 wrote:

if your going to run a lot of lighting on your bike do your homework some of these small battery's cant make enough juice or amps to run them and some of the super small battery's for road racers used for starting the bikes only.

The battery doesn't power the lights, the alternator/stator/generator does that. The only thing the battery is for is starting the bike.

Title: Re: Battery Options
Post by perajani on 01/13/13 at 13:24:01

Got myself a LIFEPO4 battery. I will try to fit it and all other loose wires in the airbox + install K&N cone filter.

So got a spare box and cut it open.
http://s1185.beta.photobucket.com/user/perajani/media/Winter%202012-2013%20Part2/IMG_1488_zpseb9d3461.jpg.html

Then bended some leftover flat bars and painted them black.
http://s1185.beta.photobucket.com/user/perajani/media/Winter%202012-2013%20Part2/IMG_1489_zps778c1c05.jpg.html

So the battery fits the holder nicely...
http://s1185.beta.photobucket.com/user/perajani/media/Winter%202012-2013%20Part2/IMG_1490_zpse3cc07dc.jpg.html

And holder fits in the airbox..
http://s1185.beta.photobucket.com/user/perajani/media/Winter%202012-2013%20Part2/IMG_1490_zpse3cc07dc.jpg.html

Story continues soon.. ::)

Title: Re: Battery Options
Post by Dave on 01/13/13 at 14:07:00

754A4944577A754C494A51250 wrote:

I am puzzled why folks would put it in any other location

For me.....the movement of the battery is necessary for the Cafe' conversion. I am removing the stock air box and filter, and the battery will be moved farther back.

Title: Re: Battery Options
Post by perajani on 01/13/13 at 22:14:13

I wanted to make bike look lighter, and was lacking something to do.

No other reasons for the battery relocation.

Title: Re: Battery Options
Post by perajani on 01/24/13 at 11:40:13

Its now looking kinda this.

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z359/perajani/Winter%202012-2013%20Part2/IMG_1544_zps30d229fe.jpg

Just to connect battery and close the front.

Title: Re: Battery Options
Post by skelly15 on 01/24/13 at 13:56:16

I ended up just buying an interstate motorcycle battery, not really pleased with having all that weight. I want to get ride of the side panels from the ryca kit and have it look lighter, guess I have to wait till this battery dies.

Title: Re: Battery Options
Post by RazBarlow on 03/12/18 at 09:18:28

How are the little YTZ7S batteries holding up ?
Are they still cranking the bike ?
I know this is an older thread but was going to order one if they are working good and will mount in the stock muffler bracket/
Thanks ,
Raz

Title: Re: Battery Options
Post by RazBarlow on 03/13/18 at 08:48:12

Anyone still running one or did you all give up ?

Title: Re: Battery Options
Post by ohiomoto on 03/13/18 at 10:26:07

A little smaller, a lot lighter and a lot more power...

https://shop.antigravitybatteries.com/products/starter-batteries/small-case/ag-801/

Of course, it's a little more expensive than all but the most expensive YTZ7S batteries (some are really cheap), and can be more temperamental. I've had one in my bike for over a year now. It's been perfect so far. It starts the bike right up even after sitting for months over the winter. I left the lights on once and ran the battery dead once last year, but it didn't seem to hurt the battery. (Thank god!)

Title: Re: Battery Options - no no no no no earth-x
Post by Gyrobob on 03/14/18 at 08:41:54

Do not, repeat DO NOT get an Earth-x lithium battery. Very expensive and they come apart,... and then they leak blue stuff all over the bike and the floor.

I recently replaced that blown earth-x plastic box of excrement with a Firepower (previously "WPS") battery.
---- Admittedly, I only have a few hours on it, but it obviously has more cranking power.
---- I researched it on several forums and blogs. It is apparently the same product Honda and Ducati selected for their few bikes that have lithium batteries. They did NOT go with Shorai,.. Shorai needs a dedicated charger to make sure the cells are balanced.
---- This Firepower battery has on-board circuitry to keep the cells balanced.

---- Of course the battery, when installed in a Honda, has a Honda label and part number, but the specs and pics look exactly like this one.

Ask me a few years from now how this one turned out.

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh253/Gyrobob_theOriginal/Firepower%20battery%2001a_zps2p58ve2l.jpg (http://s258.photobucket.com/user/Gyrobob_theOriginal/media/Firepower%20battery%2001a_zps2p58ve2l.jpg.html)

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh253/Gyrobob_theOriginal/Firepower%20battery%2002a_zpsbyzgglns.jpg (http://s258.photobucket.com/user/Gyrobob_theOriginal/media/Firepower%20battery%2002a_zpsbyzgglns.jpg.html)