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Title: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 21st. Post by Oldfeller on 09/20/12 at 15:20:11 Quote:
Hey, we have apparently survived the end of the world !!!! What shall we do to celebrate this wonderful motorcycling accomplishment? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by serenity3743 on 09/26/12 at 07:41:34 Huh?? :-? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by clearush on 09/26/12 at 08:20:39 if I can convince my buddy ride from Houston with me for a 2013 road trip we'd be down for 3 nights in a room. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by Oldfeller on 09/26/12 at 15:09:00 It must be 2013, the new 2013 Suzuki S40 is out with fuel injection and we must have OBVIOUSLY survived all the 2012 Mayan calender issues, right? So now we get to go ahead and plan this year's mountain trip. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by verslagen1 on 09/26/12 at 15:55:25 That's not till 12/21/12 |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by Oldfeller on 09/26/12 at 18:28:32 Hey, why can't we declare it to be 2013 for planning purposes? Whattaya mean, the Mayans won't LET us ????? (I thought once their calender ran out they were powerless to stop us) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by clearush on 09/26/12 at 19:44:29 Nah they found calendars in Guatemala that destroy the Mayan 2012 notion awhile ago...no more end of the world hokey pokey. http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/mayan-prophecy-the-world-wont-end-as-a-newfound-calendar-goes-on-and-on-and-on/2012/05/10/gIQA03s3FU_story.html so we can still ride in 2013 :D |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by Dave on 09/27/12 at 03:33:48 What kind of pictures are on the Mayan 2013 calendar? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by Oldfeller on 09/27/12 at 18:33:40 Scantily clad young Mayan wimmen pounding corn in a mortar & pestle (the old Aztec bump & grind routine) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by Dave on 09/28/12 at 07:19:40 75565E5C5F56565F483A0 wrote:
OK....Count me in and place my order for one. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by Oldfeller on 09/28/12 at 17:27:13 OK, each calender is tastefully engraved in a textured finished plate, size 4' by 6' by 12", approx weight is 4 tons. Got a preference for your favorite flatbed shipping line? Got your own tow truck or do you want to rent a flatbed that has its own? Mayan works of art are "heavy duty antiquities" to be sure. ..... or do you just want to pick it up while you are up at the Dragon next year? ;) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by Dave on 09/29/12 at 04:30:28 5D7E7674777E7E7760120 wrote:
Definitely not a desktop or wall calender. Sounds like the Mayan pin ups must be "actual size". |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by Oldfeller on 09/29/12 at 15:09:16 Naw, to be authentic it has to be STONE. When are we going back to the mountains? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by Dave on 09/29/12 at 17:10:34 6C4F4745464F4F4651230 wrote:
I just went for a 106 mile ride today.....the first long ride for me since the 2012 Dragon trip. When I got back from the last one I tore my bike apart to fix the knock, then when I got it back together I rode it around a bit to break things in, and I worked a bit on the jetting Last week I installed an O2 sensor and this morning I believe I was able to get the jetting almost perfect. It runs really nice now, and a mountain trip would be great......as long as it wasn't cold! I was gone about 3 hours today and I got chilly. I had a long sleeve shirt and my jacket with the liner.....but I got chilly. Riding through Maysville, KY I saw lot of people riding in T-Shirts and no helmet.....and one lady on the back of a bike in shorts. I guess if you were just riding around town for a short distance it wasn't that bad.....but at 60 mph for an hour straight....I ended up a bit chilled. I mowed grass when I got home and warmed up quickly. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by Oldfeller on 09/30/12 at 16:02:02 Let's beat the heat and go earlier than last year. This year is too far gone into fall, October means too cool and lots of riding over loose leaves, hickory nuts and acorns and crazy acting little animals .... |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by serenity3743 on 10/03/12 at 08:36:43 Hey, fellow "Tailers," I may have an option for our gathering in 2013. I'm buying some land in the area of Black Mountain, NC, just east of Asheville. We could very likely do some semi-primitive camping there by next spring or summer. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by Oldfeller on 10/03/12 at 12:36:07 Enough room to mebbe shoot a pistol as well as camp? (now that would be fun, as most of us shoot too) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by serenity3743 on 10/03/12 at 13:32:53 I'd have to find out about firearms rules. It's in a sparsely populated "still-being-developed-ment." One attraction is that it is on Hwy 9 which is a twisty road from Black Mtn to Lake Lure. Lots of good riding in the Lake Lure area. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by Oldfeller on 10/04/12 at 15:54:51 Yup, I like that road too. Did you ever fix your output shaft? We had a couple of guys mention since then that they have welded their sprocket & nut to the shaft, mainly because the full real repair is uneconomically feasible and they had nothing to lose by doing the weld. Apparently it works until the weld joint or the shaft itself fails, then you are no worse off than before. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by verslagen1 on 10/10/12 at 22:13:14 [split] [splithere] (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1349450137)[splithere_end] |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by Oldfeller on 10/16/12 at 15:49:08 That's funny, gearing was an "off topic" in the Dragon thread got cleaned up by Verslaggy. <hee hee> off topic, he thinks. Little does he know -- Serenity could show up at the Dragon with his tool box planning to tear his gearcase down and put it back together one night over a pizza and a six pack of beer. And he'd do it, too. ;D |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by ALfromN.H. on 10/16/12 at 16:50:07 11323A383B32323B2C5E0 wrote:
Where you getting the pizza from |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by verslagen1 on 10/16/12 at 16:59:36 5D7E7674777E7E7760120 wrote:
even more funny, wasn't good enough for him, hauled off and started his own thread. :-? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by Dave on 10/16/12 at 17:06:23 3B3638386C5A0 wrote:
Where you getting the pizza from[/quote] Yep! Once the store and BBQ stand closed down for the night......no munchies to be had for miles. :o |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by Oldfeller on 10/16/12 at 21:05:19 DeJourneau's that he picked up at the same late night quick pick down the mountain where he goes to make all those late night beer runs (and he stops and calls his wife while leaning over the railing at the tippy top edge of the drop off .....) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by serenity3743 on 10/17/12 at 05:19:04 0E2D2527242D2D2433410 wrote:
darn right, I'd do it! What's the fun of having a motorcycle if you can't take it apart and put it back together! ;) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by Oldfeller on 12/13/12 at 19:22:44 Well, it is Christmas time again, my my the months just roll by when you aren't paying any attention. If we are gonna book somewhere we need to be about doing it, or it won't be there when we want it. Dave and I are still up for a trip, so we will have one this year. What when and where are still pretty much up in the air. If you've got ideas, toss them out on the table -- let's hear what ya got. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by LANCER on 12/13/12 at 19:34:58 I sure am going to hate missing the ride this year. :-[ |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by Oldfeller on 12/13/12 at 21:21:02 When are you leaving? We could do a spring fall scenario again, catch you in the spring, catch the leaf lovin' sissies in the fall. ;) hey, I like that -- go twice and avoid that nasty hot hot summer nonsense |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by LANCER on 12/14/12 at 08:06:08 Been going through stuff for a while now trying to thin it all out...too much stuff. We are throwing junk out, giving away good usable stuff to a thrift store and will be selling things with significant value at the big flea market down the road in Jan & Feb, with serious packing in Feb for a Mar move to OK. No time for anything but an occasional short ride around the lake here. I wish there was more time but tis not. :( Once in OK there will be a flurry of building activity to get set up with a living space/storage/shop building for us, our stuff, tools and building material before next winter sets in, and then to start building a proper cedar timber house. Not much of any play time for the next year. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by MMRanch on 12/14/12 at 09:17:12 Anybody else thought of having a meet somewhere in the middle of the country , ride for a day or two , then different way home ? :-? Like ... Pike's Peak one year .... GrandCanyon next year .... Rt. 66 next ... etc... ? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by Oldfeller on 12/14/12 at 10:00:00 MM, you are talking like a 3-4 day "short week" each way just to get to some of these places. Why don't you pick some place neat that is a lot closer to the East Coast? :) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by Oldfeller on 12/14/12 at 10:42:38 This is the tool to use to check the general weather patterns for an area code. To use it you change the area code in the search bar which changes the database it pulls from. http://www.usa.com/28716-nc-weather.htm May and September are the early and late months for the NC mountains that have "moderate temperatures" (low in 50's and highs near 80). This is the earliest/latest comfortable camping weather. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by LANCER on 12/16/12 at 05:26:10 0D1F0D1F12010E0308400 wrote:
Oklahoma is pretty much dead center of the country. :D |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by MMRanch on 12/19/12 at 11:11:18 I sure would miss OldFeller . Summer is long and there are lots of US. Mabe two rides this summer ???? No hurry so , befor we start a new topic I need to bounce it off the wife ( at just the right time ) ;) . But Lancer you got a big enough back yard and nice enough neighbors to put up with a camp-out . ?? :) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by verslagen1 on 12/19/12 at 11:44:02 38353A3731266663540 wrote:
Oklahoma is pretty much dead center of the country. :D [/quote] Man... that's not what I'm hopin' for :o He did say he's puttin' up a shop... hope there's room for cots between the bikes 8-) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see Lancer in Oklahoma Post by Oldfeller on 12/20/12 at 19:32:46 OK, you guys got your planning yet to do ..... Lancer has to tell you when to show up and all that. Needs to give you an address to set your Garmins for ..... 19 hours on the interstate (2 days of riding each way) you'll be beat to death by the time you arrive and by the time you get back home, way way way past dead, well decomposed actually .... Hey MM, this is the same crew that rebelled & wanted to go home and take a nap after only 4 hours of chasing after you. Think of it, four (4) solid days going lump .... lump .... lump.... lump .... lump.... lump .... lump.... lump .... lump.... lump .... lump.... lump .... lump.... lump .... lump.... lump .... lump.... lump .... lump.... lump .... lump.... lump .... lump.... lump .... lump.... lump .... lump.... lump .... lump down good ol' I-20. :-/ (my back hurts just thinking about it) Hey, don't forget to invite all the RYCA guys to ride along with you !!! :D |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see Lancer in Oklahoma Post by verslagen1 on 12/20/12 at 20:53:26 when are you guys thinking of taking your lumps? august or later is available to me. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see Lancer in Oklahoma Post by LANCER on 12/21/12 at 03:35:37 MM, I'm moving to 70 acres that backs up to the N Canadian river. Places to camp ??? I do believe you can find a dozen or so. Wanna fish ? Oh yea. Stick your head out the tent in the morning and watch the deer. There is a perfect spot just off the river to set up a "camp city" that's about 1-2 acres. When I get home I will post some pics from the MAC. * cell phone signal is ...well, it depends on where you are standing at any given hour ;D |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see Lancer in Oklahoma Post by Oldfeller on 12/21/12 at 07:55:11 If you insane people are going to do this, I bet there is going to be a lot of bike trucking going on. Dave is coming from Tennessee (if he is coming) so I bet I could get a truck ride with him if he decides to go. Main issue for me will be taking a whole long week + off as we are very very low manned (budget crunch) at my job right now and are not even letting folks off for Christmas Eve, Christmas Day and New Years Eve this year. Manditory, I have to work. But the rest of you guys have yourselves a blast trout fishing and camping and riding about -- take lots of pictures. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see Lancer in Oklahoma Post by LANCER on 12/21/12 at 12:37:33 There are LOTS of coyotes, some wildcats (no, not house cats on the run variety), raccoon , fox, skunk and other assorted critters that may mess with you in the night. It's pretty quiet though and at night no city lights to interfer with seeing billions of stars. One caution is to stay out of the quick sand. It's better for all concerned that way. :) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by LANCER on 12/21/12 at 12:45:37 544750514E4345474C13220 wrote:
Oklahoma is pretty much dead center of the country. :D [/quote] Man... that's not what I'm hopin' for :o He did say he's puttin' up a shop... hope there's room for cots between the bikes 8-)[/quote] Building the shop is the first order of business upon arrival. We are starting from scratch here so the timeline for getting stuff done is a bit fluid. A lot depends on what part of the property I end up building on. My idea of a shop building is a 30x50 minimum. It would prefer 40x60 And it will have a full function bathroom or 2. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Tail of the Dragon Trip Post by ZAR on 12/21/12 at 18:10:33 79747B7670672722150 wrote:
Oklahoma is pretty much dead center of the country. :D [/quote] Man... that's not what I'm hopin' for :o He did say he's puttin' up a shop... hope there's room for cots between the bikes 8-)[/quote] Building the shop is the first order of business upon arrival. We are starting from scratch here so the timeline for getting stuff done is a bit fluid. A lot depends on what part of the property I end up building on. My idea of a shop building is a 30x50 minimum. It would prefer 40x60 And it will have a full function bathroom or 2.[/quote] Lancer I bet if you play it right you could get a "barn raisin'" party with the crew here. But it sounds like you better keep a close eye on the "party" part ;) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see Lancer in Oklahoma Post by LANCER on 12/22/12 at 03:11:10 Yea, I don't know if much of any work would get done. Crazed Savage riders running into the woods and getting all tangled up in a briar patch, or sooting across the pasture and their front wheel disappearing in a gofer hole and then going AIRBORNE, or trying to cross a swollen creek and ending up in the river downstream...there's just no telling what might happen. Of course there are the ROCKS too. The wooded areas are mostly that way because of the rocks, some are car size while others are merely 5-10 ton paperweights. Lots of rocks. Thousands of tons worth. I could build everything out of rock if I wanted to deal with the heavy lifting. I will probably build the house foundation with them. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see Lancer in Oklahoma Post by WD on 12/24/12 at 01:54:52 So host this summer's (2013) at my place, although it's just a piddly 54 acres.... 2 of which is the stocked fishing/swimming/boating hole (yep, pond is 2 acres). Picnic area, grilles, horse shoe pit, camping spots... Wild hogs, deer, coyotes, otters, ospreys, owls... Word of warning, it IS a semi-legal naturist park... so there might be a few scantily (or less) clad young ladies floating around... ::) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see Lancer in Oklahoma Post by LANCER on 12/24/12 at 03:17:01 I vote for Tenn! ;) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see Lancer in Oklahoma Post by MMRanch on 12/24/12 at 11:12:34 OldFeller your right ... about not to be named folks wineeeing after half-a-days ride. Could be some seat and foot rest combows are better than others. OR Could be some folks need to get out more and ride.? I'm good with what ever the majority plans. Life is just too short ! Lancer a ride up your way in the middle of the summer would be great! WD we are allmost neighbors ... If we meet at your place I'm in for sure. The Wife and I have just short of 100 acres in Lynchburg TN. lots of places to ride, and lots of camping room . If everyone brought their own cot we could camp in the barn loft , play guitars and howell all night. Anybody checked on the Suzuki Owners club ride this spring ? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD or MM in Tennessee Post by Oldfeller on 12/25/12 at 06:32:36 MM, would we blow you cover staying at your place? Somehow I think our normal shenanigans wouldn't play too good in some of the theaters you live in and just think of what our tall tales would do, even the true ones .... WD has no history to be worried about, he's never ridden on the wild ride. Example: Speeding -- you never break the speed limit, right? [smiley=engel017.gif] |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD or MM in Tennessee Post by LANCER on 12/25/12 at 07:53:17 If we all took off at the same time would we affect the spin of the earth ? ::) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD or MM in Tennessee Post by Oldfeller on 12/25/12 at 09:42:37 And if we ever told what you really were doing when you shredded the primary crank splines on your sportster, would it jive with your home story very much at all? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD or MM in Tennessee Post by WD on 12/25/12 at 10:07:28 Looks like I'd best get my repaint/rewire done. And at least ome fishing dock replanked (no big deal, had a nice red oak fall over from the wind a couple months ago, rough cut will do fine). We'll get some kind of fire ring set up. Only have 10 or 15 cords worth of white oak down right now though... ::) How many tent pads do I need to get level? And when do you guys want to try and set this up for? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD or MM in Tennessee Post by Oldfeller on 12/25/12 at 11:33:33 Planning is easy, WD, here is your seasonal weather pattern tool all adjusted to your zip code. http://www.usa.com/38011-tn-weather.htm All you have to do is tell us when you want us there, then the boys can ring in on if they are gonna go or not. ;D Me, I need to hitch a truck ride with somebody headed from this way thereabouts so I will chime in when my ride shows up. ========================= Example: August has the least rain with average temps for the area code being a mathematical 80 with highest readings averaging 90o and a low of 70o -- however, the average humidity in this period is 85%. September is more moderate all the way around, take 10 away from all of the above numbers. Still plenty warm enough at night 60o for a light sleeping bag. Humidity is 10 points less as well. ========================= WD, you don't happen to have a little shooting range set up on your place, do you? I know Lancer likes to shoot, and that would be late enough in the year for him to mebbe be able to come. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in Tennessee Post by WD on 12/25/12 at 20:59:09 Backstop is 10' high, 40' wide, 100' deep. Those weather figures are way off, it was in the 80s in late February last year. By July the pond had dropped by 1/4 acre or more. Correct zip is 38011. I'll PM you my address so you can google map it. Time of year is irrelevant. I work from home. Summer should have close to 2 acres of garden in production. Note, we do have some "unfriendly" wildlife around here... skunks, coral snakes (haven't seen one), timber rattlers (never seen one though), copperheads, cotton mouths, wild honey bees, fire ants, carpenter bees... and feral hogs. None of which have ever bothered any of us. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in Tennessee Post by MMRanch on 12/25/12 at 21:32:59 I like those wings on the smilley face ! I'll say , I doin't lie near as much as my Speedometer does .... Being WD is in west TN mabe some of the folks from the middle states might make the ride. The sooner I can get a date on the planner the more permant it is . We get a couple of warm dry weeks about the last of March---first of April every year .... but I'm OK with later in the year too. The last of May I'm usually gettting Hay up and there are some HOT Dry weeks about then also. :) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in Tennessee Post by LANCER on 12/26/12 at 04:13:30 This next year is totally up in the air for me. I hope stuff is progressing at a good rate so I can get away at some point before the cold comes in. There are just too many variables and I likely won't know until summer if there is a chance to make it. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in Tennessee Post by WD on 12/26/12 at 06:38:18 The cold is here now... ice/sleet last night, woke up to snow this morning. Less than an inch but it will have the county shut down. The "bubba mobiles" (street spec monster trucks) are absolutely useless if the pavement isn't clean and dry, and they are very common around here. I have only rear wheel drive pickups, they handle it just fine. So do the bikes. Drifter Doug (coworker from out west, lives on our place now as gamekeeper/farmhand) and I are going to try and get the BIG trailer moved to the pond. But it has been parked since early 1942 (1930s single axle semi trailer), so no promises. Needs a couple floor boards replaced and some windows. Plan is to add a small woodstove, composting toilet, chest of drawers, table and some bunks. Also have a 1920s built outbuilding we'd like to move down there and add bunks to. More amenities will be going in as time/budget allow, Lisa wants a beach volleyball court put in. Pond banks are going to be squared off and reinforced, pond will be deepened, boat launch will be deepened and formalized... You guys set a date. Doesn't matter to me. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in Tennessee Post by Oldfeller on 12/26/12 at 10:16:00 Here is the fixed weather tool. http://www.usa.com/38011-tn-weather.htm As far as date planning, there are two temperature friendly zones, one is in late May to early June and the other is in September. The September band has less humidity and less rain than late May, early June band. If you shoot for summer summer, you get rain and humidity to go along with your heat. Somebody else who is planning on going tell us about your timing issues as most of us can go any time. I will truck up with somebody or else just drive me a car and carry me some guns (I'm easy as I ain't riding I-40 for 14 hours to jest show up all cripp'd up & grumpy). I googled the place, it's got some buck nekid people swimming in the pond jest a waving up at the satellite. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in Tennessee Post by verslagen1 on 12/26/12 at 10:34:59 September time frame has me hopeful. ironbutting it out there would leave my butt in a sling for the time I was there, so trailerin' it there would be a must. And if I could pick someone on the way would make it a hole lot easier. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in Tennessee Post by LANCER on 12/26/12 at 11:35:34 160512130C0107050E51600 wrote:
YEEEEEE HAAAAAA 8-) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in Tennessee Post by Oldfeller on 12/27/12 at 23:14:24 To celebrate our coming together on a site and getting a sorta date selected, I have begun to put me together some WD rounds -- yeah, I'm off for two whole days so I had to go find me something to do. My caliber of choice in my approaching old age is a light 7mm-08 rifle. Today I am putting up light 120 grain Sierra Pro-Hunters over IMR 4895 powder to give me about 3,000 fps out of my 22" tube. Odd bullet, the 120 grain Pro-Hunter. It has some history behind it. It was originally intended for the 7x57 Mauser as a light coyote type "varmint bullet" but in the '60s-'70s folks began to put them into the new 7mm Remington Magnums and at 3,300+ fps the cup and core construction began blowing up like a hand grenade on impact. Tore some yotes flat in two it did. Numerous complaints (actual letters back then no less) prompted Sierra to start using the cut down jackets from a heavier 7mm Rem Mag hunting bullet so the bullet would expand more normally at high speeds for the 7mm Rem Mag folks too (folks shot coyote for the hides back then, remember). But, by cutting the longer bullet's core jacket short to make the little bullet (it was thicker at the tip accordingly) they made a bullet that held together too well to be called "varmint bullet" any more, even at 3,300 fps it expanded and mushroomed in a controlled fashion. What they stumbled upon was the precursor to the bonded controlled expansion bullets of the 90's. Push it faster, the mushroom gets bigger. Expansion starts at 1,900 fps and total blow up fragmentation begins at 3,500 fps. And in a 7mm-08 it is a wimpy shouldered old man's dream bullet. It is light and fits the throat real good while sitting pretty on the powder charges with no compaction. I can load it to 2,600 fps and it is a lovely little plinker round that can kill a deer if one happens by. The expansion isn't extreme, but that means the little bullet still makes it all the way through the deer at the lower launch speed (can you say balanced expansion?) And at 3,000 fps MV it can fly 250 yards and be cooking at over 2,100 fps when it hits a deer. If one comes close in real close, I go for the behind the shoulder lung shot, at 100+ yard distances a shoulder breaking shot is good to keep them where you shot them. Being old school cup and core, the bullets are always reasonably priced. And, since it isn't modern or popular with the prairie dog varmint shooters (because it ISN'T a blow up bullet) it goes on blem sale about every other year when the stock on hand gets all ugly & tarnished. Last set of 3 boxes came from a store inventory liquidation, I paid like $8 for a box of 100. Tarnished shoots fine fer me ..... ;) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in Tennessee Post by LANCER on 12/28/12 at 02:23:42 If I am able to make it WD's this year I will be totin my 45-70 Lever. Sometimes I just like the heavier torque of a Big Block vs small block. ;D |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in Tennessee Post by Oldfeller on 12/28/12 at 08:14:33 Love is a slow recoiling 2,050 fps 350-400 grain hunk of burning love. If I were facing down a bear or bison, that would be the short stopping medicine. Then I would have to go see the shoulder doctor to get him to put it all back together again .... I'll stick with my little light 7mm-08 wimpy gun for any walking hunting. If it is blind or beanfield hunting, I have an accurate heavy barrel 30-06 that pushes a fast 165 grain bullet with a mil-dot 24x scope, so if distances are known and I can see it clearly I might be tempted to shoot it. Recoil on the heavy rifle is mild, but getting down on the ground for long periods is getting harder to do. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in Tennessee Post by WD on 12/28/12 at 23:06:39 If you are going to truck your bike over, no problem. If you prefer a real bed the closest motel is about 8 miles from the farm. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in Tennessee Post by Oldfeller on 12/29/12 at 07:49:19 WD, do you have a ramp or shall one of the boys bring one? Do you have a bench set up on your range already? Sandbags? What do we need to plan to bring, in other words. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in Tennessee Post by WD on 12/29/12 at 08:15:47 I've got folding ramps. Cattle loading dock is long gone, but I do have a backhoe/front end loader combo... Primitive shooting area, we just shoot off hand, sitting or prone. If something needs to be sighted in, bench rest vice is set on the hood of the truck. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by Oldfeller on 01/16/13 at 12:24:27 OK, I'll come -- have ordered trailer hitch and will buy a small trailer. What are Tennessee's rules for transporting fire arms in a car? Anybody got a clue? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by WD on 01/17/13 at 07:25:27 Unloaded unless you have a carry permit. Long arms have to be unloaded with or without carry permit, too many poachers in unit L counties... see below... http://www.eregulations.com/tennessee/hunting/deer-hunting/ I live in a Unit L county. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by ZAR on 01/17/13 at 07:31:06 0D1E5A0 wrote:
Gee WD...... I thought we had screwy deer hunting regs in Kentucky :-? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by WD on 01/17/13 at 07:47:07 Living in a 3 doe per day unit sucks hunting wise. They are tiny, spooky, and constantly changing when/where they are located. I got 2 this year with an old .44Spl revolver, knock downs some poacher had shot at and didn't bother to track. By the time I found and finished them, buzzard bait. >:( |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by ZAR on 01/17/13 at 08:00:04 687B3F0 wrote:
WD we are starting to see the same lack of quality around here. Overpopulation due to habitat loss from the building boom a few years back and the restrictions on hunting forced on us by the PETA types has hurt the wildlife in general. I still live out in the country but it's grown so much I can't go 1/4 mile without being in someones yard! |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by Oldfeller on 01/17/13 at 11:32:56 Checked the opinions of folks answering that question on line -- sounds like rifles had best be carried bolt out in the trunk, ammo in a locked suitcase in the back seat and bolts in another locked suitcase. Guns must be separated so you can't get to the various pieces easily, even then Tennessee cops will hassle you in a stop situation. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by verslagen1 on 01/17/13 at 12:11:04 fnbastards. lock the cases and mail the keys. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by Oldfeller on 01/21/13 at 06:55:30 http://www.shop.rmrbullets.com/images/130%20.277%20soft%20point.jpg I'm thinking and shopping now for the second trip. Got my trailer all sussed out and will have one trip under my belt already by September to prove out all the trailer tricks. The pic above is Federal pulled 150 grain 7mm bullets, $80 for 500 bullets. Likely the bullets will be mixed source over time, but some of the 500 will likely be Speer Mag Tips and some will be Trophy Bonded Bear Claws. I bet I can polish up the entire lot then weight then length sort them to get like with like. Both bullets are good for a 7mm rem mag (that's what they were taken off of) and both bullets were considered premium bullets in their era. Both have been replaced by fancier, newer candidates. I have a 7 rem mag with a long eye on it, but I prefer my much lighter handier short action 7mm-08 for carrying in the woods. http://www.biggameinfo.com/Images/BearClaw.gif Trophy Bonded Bear Claws will be for the 7mm Mag (the partition like construction holds together at 3,000+ fps hyperspeed impacts after the softpoint front part completely explodes in the lung cavity the remaining solid shank continues out the other side of the animal for a good blood trail). This bullet was originally called "Safari grade" and was used for dangerous game animals and really big stuff like elk and moose. It was developed to one-up the Nosler Partition bullet ..... and like the Partition was "good for any speed any distance". The Mag Tips and the other cup and core styles will go into the 7mm-08 as they will only be going 2,700 fps out of that rifle. With this gun, standard opening bullets is all you need as the speeds are just about always cup and core range. You simply can't get to the hyperspeed arenas with the 7mm-08 unless you use very very light bullets, so the Mag Tips will be fine for that gun. Notice I searched for and found the "same" 150 grain bullet weight that is "top end" for the 7mm-08 and "middle of the road" for the 7mm Rem Mag so I can use the same bullet in both quite happily. You can still buy blem plain jane cup and core bullets and such occasionally at this same $16 per hundred general price range, but the going prices of blem bullets have doubled and tripled in the last year alone (supply and demand has taken most good bullets "out of stock" as blems most all of the time now-a-days as they sell out well before they tarnish up good due to Obama). So the best deals generally are "obsolete" bullet styles like this one, not that they suddenly quit working or being world class and all -- they are just out of fad at the moment. Bullets are the man equivalent of women's stylish shoes, they all walk fine but the current style counts too. Girls .... did you know that right now multi-colored plastic tip toed shoes are in and last year's small square tip toes (the kind that don't batter up in the magazine) are definitely out? They are so 1970's tacky ugly, really now .... But, did you also know ..... that the plastic tip toe shoes everyone loves so much right now do batter up in the magazine, occasionally (rarely) break off completely and the loose tip jams up in the magazine and plastic tips are always over half evaporated by hyperspeed air friction before the long flying bullet ever reaches the 300 yard target? And that most deer are actually shot between 70 and 120 yards? Elk between 100 yards and 250 yards? That most hunt clubs would immediately end your membership if you took a shot at a game animal at over 350 yards (it's in their by-laws as unsportman-like conduct)? ;D |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by WD on 01/21/13 at 08:44:14 300 yard bans? Last range I belonged to we shot bowling pins at 1000 yards... of course, the range impact zone was 5 miles deep... military base. You guys picked a date for this shindig yet? Remember, I live here, so I'm always here... I'm trying to get some of the local pin up models on board for this, so I'm going to need a time frame. And what do you think of opening it up a bit, maybe bring in some of the kinda local Mopar and motorcycle folks from other forums I haunt? Trying to get both my bikes running for the get together. Pulled the CL engine yesterday, got a good scare, vin is CL72E-XXX0001... numbers matching engine and chassis... waiting for an answer from Honda on whether or not it is really a first one of its year. I'm going to try and fire up the 49 lowrider for it too. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by Oldfeller on 01/21/13 at 09:27:48 Nobody has stated any sort of preference for exactly when yet .... I suspect Verslagen has the longest trip so mebbe he picks the date for when he can show up, travel time and all. Since we don't have to make firm reservations with the Dragon "back pocket robber" hotel, we aren't having to plan a set of days way way out into the future. You are the host, invite who you want. Set whatever date suits whomever. All our Dragon runs have had other bikes in them (they just couldn't keep up in the curvies). Trophy Bonded Bear Claw construction http://www.biggameinfo.com/Images/BearClaw.gif |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by WD on 01/21/13 at 10:12:05 Know what you mean, none of my toys can get out of their own way. I've probably got THE slowest Savage these days, between the 15" comfort bars, full rear fender, pillow seat and tall rear shocks the center of gravity is as high as a ZRX, if not higher. The other groups would be the Dirty South section of Do The Ton, the Sweptline truck board and the flathead Mopar boards (cars and trucks). As far as the pin up gals, think straight out of the 40s and 50s, the retro scene is big here, not much in the way of the modern "Suicide Girls" type models here... thank god... never thought I'd say "too much ink" but... |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by verslagen1 on 01/21/13 at 11:36:03 I'm currently open and tentitive on schedule. Late Aug. to early Oct is fine, providing something at work don't come up. Need about 2 days travel time give or take a Zzzz... So a Monday arrival to a Friday depacture at a max. How long are we thinking? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by Oldfeller on 01/21/13 at 11:58:00 I can spend at least one day adding hazardous mass to WD's backstop, so I am good for at least a Weds arrive -Sunday leave, since I have a car and trailer now I can make it home in 10-12hrs no sweat. Beyond that, no need for more plans until things jell a bit more. Sounds like the "other folks" will add a layer of more interesting to the party, similar to campfire time at the Dragon used to do. I'm looking forward to this entire summer, as the first trip will be all Dragon-y and the second trip will have lots of shoot'n --- my two favorite sorts of playtimes. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by verslagen1 on 01/21/13 at 20:10:26 Anybody out west want to share a trailer ride contact me? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by oldsavage on 03/18/13 at 18:08:14 New guy here, and second post, i'm liking what you guys is throwin' down! :) And WD is hosting at home, now thats what a forum is all about, i'm hoping the missus' won't mind me stealing her ride to meet some of you all, I've been lurking for awhile and have read up a bit on the sight. I might even meet a few of ya's on the Dragon, i'm planning a trip up there on my new little toy, 2013 Kawi 300 ninja to see what it can do and just to get outta the house fer a bit. Hope you don't mind a new guy crashin' a meet and seeing what momma's ride can do before she takes it long distance. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by Oldfeller on 03/18/13 at 18:26:47 The first run this year will be the Dragon run (sign up a few threads below this one, still up in the stickies) The WD run will be in the Fall. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by oldsavage on 03/18/13 at 18:38:22 Going to run the Dragon with my little 300 about end of april or first week or two of may. Supposed to meet a couple of riders from that forum there, but i'm awaiting a pet scan to see if all is clear. I might go before the scan, because afterward depending on results I might have to go back on chemo. The last one was clear so i'm thinking the next will be too, week ago had a colonostopy (getting me from both ends LOL), two nodules one benign and the other pre-cancerous, but they got it out so no worries there. If the next scan is clean i'll be doing alot of traveling (as much as funds will allow) most might be camping, i'm headed to closest forrestry office and getting my veterans pass for the national campgrounds. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by WD on 03/19/13 at 06:54:25 We plan to start replanking the south fishing dock in a week or so... The otters have vacated the pond, the fish and turtles have stated to show again. Standing by the south dock, looking north to the dam and north dock...http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y490/mphsgal/LISA-HP/Photos/Hobby%20Farming%20_11/The%20Pond%20Before/DSCF0348_zps4b91a639.jpg South dock area before I cleared a bunch of scrub willow, sweet gum, etc...http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y490/mphsgal/LISA-HP/Photos/Hobby%20Farming%20_11/The%20Pond%20Before/DSCF0349_zpsa4ee02b5.jpg Don't have any showing the area since we did a bunch of work last season. This is where we added the picnic area, the grill pad is going, the fire pit is going... behind the pic taker is a horse shoe pit, off to the pic taker's right we want to add a beach type volleyball court...http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y490/mphsgal/LISA-HP/Photos/Hobby%20Farming%20_11/The%20Pond%20Before/DSCF0347_zpsa4bdf9e4.jpg Hosting at my place is a no brainer, we've got 54 acres to play with, only 2 of which are normally soggy (pond at full capacity). |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by Oldfeller on 04/07/13 at 19:16:37 Need to pick a date soon. Folks will have to speak for their planned vacation time soon. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by rfw2003 on 04/07/13 at 19:25:31 Man I wish I could make the ride for this one, but with the kids being in school at that time there is no way I'd be able to with me being a single father. :-/ I have no family in the area so I have no way to get anyone to babysit the kids for something like this. :-/ What I need is something during the summer where one of my family members takes my kids on a vacation with them so I have the free time to do stuff like this. R.F. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by verslagen1 on 04/07/13 at 19:53:26 I shouldn't have any problems with september as long any thing major doesn't come up. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by WD on 04/10/13 at 19:27:55 I said at the outset you guys choose a date, does not matter to me. I live here... Bow season opens in late August or early September. Black powder season opens the end of September, runs through the first weekend in January. Prefer before black powder season... Feral hog season is all year, classified as vermin by the game department... Squirrel season opens in August. Pond is open all year. The cotton mouths and copperheads are OFF LIMITS, so are the turtles. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by verslagen1 on 04/10/13 at 21:16:23 Brother, can you spare some FFFg? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by WD on 04/10/13 at 22:32:49 Maybe... but my Ruger takes 50-60 grains per chamber... |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by verslagen1 on 04/10/13 at 22:49:24 just worried about totin a can with me :-? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by WD on 04/10/13 at 23:18:00 It's $20/lb around here. I use 5-30 grains of loose 777 FFFg equivalent under a 30gr pyrodrek pellet. Can has lasted quite awhile... |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by verslagen1 on 04/10/13 at 23:48:53 mine has lasted a long time too, but I haven't shot in a few years. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by WD on 04/11/13 at 00:08:01 The .54 Lyman Great Plains cap lock takes FFg, we got a can last month and still haven't touched off a single round. I need to get rid of my "modern" guns and get a couple flint locks. The 1931 S&W factory nickel with carved pearl grips 3rd Model .44 Hand Ejector is nice, really nice, but I hate shooting it. Grip frame is too little. My 1935 CZ24 .380 jam-o-matic is ready to become a fishing weight, tiny and even with new springs and a proper lubing it jams. .38 Long Colt revolver hammer face broke. I despise my .30/30 Winchester carbine. .44wcf revolver frame split (from use). 20g Remington autoloader is getting ready to go on the anvil and get flattened, what a waste of steel and walnut, but Lisa would flatten me, it was her grandfather's gun... About $6K in family guns that I hate shooting or flat out hate and can't sell. Cartridges, like overhead valves, are just a passing fad... |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by Oldfeller on 04/23/13 at 09:52:44 I think WD is calling for a date http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1366734988/0#0 |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by Oldfeller on 04/24/13 at 02:26:50 Date proposed is September 16th through September 21st Going once, Going twice ...... (speak up you slow reading boys, iffen you want to have any input into the dates) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by LANCER on 04/24/13 at 12:02:55 5F7C7476757C7C7562100 wrote:
Works for me. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by WD on 04/24/13 at 12:13:58 So far so good... invite extended to The Pilot House and Sweptline truck boards, flathead 6 Mopar car board and the "Dirty South--- Whiskey Built and Hell Bound" section of Do the Ton. I expect a few will turn up from each board. Just to make it more interesting, especially if the Memphis Mummies "drinking club with a motorcycle habit" shows up... ::) And I did BAN dirt bikes and crotch rockets. Nowhere here to fully enjoy using them, the motor sports park is rather expensive to rent for a day... |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by Oldfeller on 04/25/13 at 03:27:38 Post us up a list of "those saying they are coming" from all your various clubs and let's start talking about tents and stuff. We are 4 months out from the first annual scoot & shoot so a wee little bit of planning is mebbe due. From our side we got these folks indicating interest so far .... Lancer Verslagen Oldfeller MMRanch Dave I'm tenting with MMRanch, so where are the rest of you guys sleeping? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by WD on 04/25/13 at 07:29:49 So far one from DTT, two maybes from the 33-60 flathead Mopar group. One 46 truck, one 48 or 49 car that is a sleeper (looks stock externally but has a hopped up 251 or 265 big block) A lot of the guys in the other groups won't know until the dates get closer. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by LANCER on 04/25/13 at 11:57:15 7251595B585151584F3D0 wrote:
Maybe I'll throw up a lean-to upon arrival http://practicalsurvivor.smugmug.com/photos/740710097_osVzq-S.jpg http://www.survival-homestead.com/images/shelter-leanto.jpg |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by WD on 04/25/13 at 17:11:28 By which hand pump well? 1920s or 1880s... |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by Oldfeller on 04/26/13 at 06:41:08 OK, if we are primitive camping, our planning will have to include a shitter of some sort. Boyscout Campmaster, how do you do it in the Scouts under haul it in primitive conditions ?? You wouldn't happen to have a portable shitter in your kit, would you? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by WD on 04/26/13 at 07:41:43 We'll have to get a portable brought in. I've got a base for a Scout Camp style outhouse, but, I'm not inclined to build one. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by Oldfeller on 04/26/13 at 09:01:13 MMRanch is Mr. Soutmaster, so let's wait until he gets back to us -- I pm'd him about it. :o No joke, at one point in time I had me an old cane bottom chair with the caning all gone out of it that I had screw mounted a modern toilet seat on to that was used when we went on primitive camping trips. We just dug a little hole under the seat with the dirt piled nearby, you shite, wiped, tossed and then shoved a little dirt over each layer of mess to keep the flies away. Then we put all the dirt back and put the sod plug back when we left the site. No muss, no fuss. Primitive camping at it's most basic. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by WD on 04/26/13 at 10:51:26 We've got an actual camping toilet that uses bags with odor buster and moisture absorption properties. Got it for a naturist party we hosted last summer. I'll try and find it. Should be in either the Nomad camper or the motor home. Both are junkers, I'm not dragging them down by the pond. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by MMRanch on 04/26/13 at 20:26:00 Well I've been catching up on my reading . a easy port-a-pottie of sorts ,,, is a 5 gal bucket with a tall kitchen bag liner ... New bag ever time .... and a lined large trash can to put the little bags in. Some of the Scout camps require everybody to carry out everything that wasn't there to begin with . So far I've managed to avoid all of them. Those port-a-potties things ... How about renting one of them for a week ? I've never checked on them anybody know the story on em.? :-? I saw a contraption in a magizine ... picture this .... a tolet seat that fastens to a 2" receiver hitch that has a trash bag hooket to it .. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by WD on 04/26/13 at 20:49:04 It's covered, the camping unit is where I thought we stashed it. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by LANCER on 04/27/13 at 09:31:01 756775676A79767B70380 wrote:
Dude, you crack me up !!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Who else would find such a thing ? ? ? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by verslagen1 on 04/27/13 at 09:55:41 bumperdumper says it all... http://www.bumperdumper.com/images/road8.jpg “Not for use when vehicle is in motion.” |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by LANCER on 04/27/13 at 16:41:27 “Not for use when vehicle is in motion.” Don't see why not; a pair of roller skates for your feet and a seat belt to hold you in place should do the trick, don't ya think ? ::) ;D |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September Post by WD on 04/27/13 at 17:25:03 Like old Amtrak bathrooms that have signs that say "Do not flush while train is in the station"... ;D Last time I was on the Southwest Chief in 1990, the train had one of those cars in service, the modern car broke and they pulled one of the antiques out of mothballs. We kept trying to flush a couple of Scouts we truly disliked in the middle of the Painted Desert... ::) We were enroute to the Philmont Scout Ranch, I've been 3 times, 2 on treks, once for National Junior Leader Training. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by MMRanch on 04/27/13 at 20:22:32 Hay WD !!! How far did ya get in the program ? :) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 04/27/13 at 23:35:19 Eagle at age 15. Brother and 2 cousins got theirs at 18. Brotherhood level OA, chapter chief. Was last active with a Venture Crew, stepson made Ranger. Also was an assistant Scoutmaster and merit badge counselor at the same time. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by LANCER on 04/28/13 at 11:10:26 0A195D0 wrote:
Very impressive dude ! ! ;) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 04/28/13 at 12:25:15 Finalized dates are September 14th arrive, Sept 21st leave -- that is a full calender week to shoot at. Start posting your arrival/leave times Lancer & Verslagen so the more local folks can plan to hit your days with their partial week of days. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 04/28/13 at 13:03:41 Arrival time: already on site... Departure time: haven't died yet, can't predict that... ;D Couldn't help it. Feeling a bit obnoxious today... |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by verslagen1 on 04/28/13 at 13:31:11 1800 miles, about 2 days driving there, stop over maybe amarillo. puts me no earlier than arriving sunday night, leaving friday morn. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by MMRanch on 04/28/13 at 14:08:29 Congraulations WD My son just finished his Eagle project (Very proud !!!) @ 16. I started out as "Tiger cub " den leader , then inhaired the pack 4 months later when the CubMaster quit. After my son finished the Cub program there wasn't a troop to go to ...... So .... I reserected the one from 15 years ago , and the party has been going on ever since ! ;D So ??? Is it true ? Is being an Eagle a leg up in life ? I do know some of the stuff these boys know I learned same time they did ! |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 04/28/13 at 16:53:21 If they enlist they automatically are bumped up one pay grade. If they join NESA (National Eagle Scout Association) it opens a lot of doors. Does show potential employers that they have an understanding of dedication and hard work. Other than that, it's a toss up. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by ToesNose on 04/29/13 at 04:14:03 5A490D0 wrote:
That's pretty cool :) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by LANCER on 04/29/13 at 17:51:49 14 to 21 |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 04/30/13 at 06:20:29 Lancer in 9/14 late Saturday, staying all week Verslagen in 9/15 late Sunday, staying until Friday AM Oldfeller in 9/14 late Saturday, staying through Weds AM |
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Title: If you plan to be shooting... Post by WD on 05/05/13 at 11:42:32 Bring a LOT of ammo, there is none available locally. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 05/11/13 at 12:59:29 Pond is at full capacity. Was out in the boat to check the spillway. Bass, catfish, crappie, bluegill, grass carp and crawfish everywhere. Harvestable snapping turtles. We've had a lot of rain bring on an early spawning of pretty much every pond dweller. I have plenty of cane poles and regular fishing gear on site. You want to show up moths ahead of time for a weekend, we're amenable... Resident deer herd is at 30, not counting fawns or bucks. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by MMRanch on 05/13/13 at 15:17:34 So WD Is "Catch-and-Release" going to be the order of the day ? :-? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by old_rider on 05/13/13 at 20:24:21 How bout, catch and fry? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 05/13/13 at 21:10:02 The only fish you CAN/MUST throw back are the carp. Everything else, regardless of size, is a keeper. Pond is badly/unhealthily overstocked. Bring dynamite, field phones, cast nets, seines, whatever. If you do a fish fry, no soy oil, I'm allergic. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 05/14/13 at 05:31:31 696A62746F626374060 wrote:
I can bring an ultra light rig and see about some catching some crappy and bream and small mouth to feed your pan if you can see them cooked. This brings up Tennessee fishing/hunting licensing and the requirements to have such. To shoot at your range should not require any license, but taking game and fish generally does ...... how much $$ to be legal in case a game warden drops by? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by old_rider on 05/14/13 at 06:35:40 I don't believe that applies if he has posted "private property" signs. Wouldn't that keep out gov/state officials unless they had warrents or such? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 05/14/13 at 12:09:29 Technically you need a non-resident license, BUT, the state has never stocked our pond. Game warden on our place? They know better... it's informally listed as a wildlife preserve. I called the game dept last year, told them I had a bead on a poacher and was getting ready to drop him... their response? "Have fun". Nobody ever showed up. >:( I called in each time I knocked down a septic doe that a road hunter had put a round in. The response? Okay, thanks for taking care of it. >:( Called in to have a rescue organization come get a fawn tangled up in an old fence line. The response? "You deal with it, deer are overpopulated and we'll just end up charging you money for us to come put it down". The fawn survived, she's named "Gimpy" and she's one of the lead watch does in our resident herd. Last year was the first time this place had been hunted since 1958. Deer are a plague in west TN, I tilled over several sets of tracks last night, in the main gardens. The pond area: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-e4JRCbw_S-0/UZDse0P8pyI/AAAAAAAAAcM/ZtSqBfSCyhc/s400/DSCF0415.JPG http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Zl5Vs4E6DV0/UZDsvou79OI/AAAAAAAAAck/Y43i8Ii61gg/s400/DSCF0414.JPG http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-bvhJhGv9AN4/UZDsjqtA0II/AAAAAAAAAcU/c0f9hd3Xs4E/s400/DSCF0416.JPG And we're still adding stuff and making other improvements. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by LANCER on 05/14/13 at 18:12:22 Very nice looking camping area there dude. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 05/14/13 at 20:42:29 Thanks. Wait until you see it in person, one outdoor fire place went in Sunday, and I have two more and a couple dryer drums... Lisa told me to lay in a cord or so of firewood for the gathering... probably not enough, but, there are dozens of standing dead hardwoods and/or blow downs we can cut up. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by verslagen1 on 05/14/13 at 21:02:59 3427630 wrote:
wow, parties must be legendary |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 06/17/13 at 13:52:40 So, how many are showing up on the 14th? I guess I need to reserve some vacation days at work and I am looking for the period when the greatest mass of people will be there. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 06/17/13 at 14:57:54 At least 6 if you count the resident scooter bums, ranging in age from 40-87. But since 4 of us live on site... 2 so far. What kind of things do you guys want to see/do in addition to fishing and shooting? Beale Street, Graceland, Fort Pillow Battlefield, Shiloh, Sun Studios? I'll try and get a couple deer before hand, no promises, have to make a new longbow. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by verslagen1 on 06/17/13 at 15:15:13 I'll have to ask who on the family tree was in the war and see if I can find where. Grandma was a Hamilton in Natchez, born on the Hawthrone plantation. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by LANCER on 06/17/13 at 17:25:03 7F6C7B7A65686E6C6738090 wrote:
The Hamilton's were prominent in "Gone with the Wind", are you related to any of them ? ;D |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 06/18/13 at 03:34:27 Trips that last a whole week ---- generally have staggered arrival dates for at least some of the people. It would be nice to know when folks intend to arrive. Lancer plans to be there on the 14th and stay the whole time. MM and Verslagen and Dave haven't said an arrival day yet and I am going to shoot for "center of people mass" as soon as it is known. We need to stage a full on drag race with Lancer on Rex and Dave on Slim Jim to see which one of the super Savages will rule for 2013. Both bikes are light enough to be competitive and I have seen both of them run away from me easily. (hard to judge a comparative speed between the two though) Both bikes should be out of their break in period by then ..... :D |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by LANCER on 06/18/13 at 03:46:21 1330383A393030392E5C0 wrote:
Oh, we do, do we ?? ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by verslagen1 on 06/18/13 at 07:24:14 05262E2C2F26262F384A0 wrote:
20 hours traveling time, leaving early ::) saturday. with a stop in the middle... god willin' and the crik don't rise. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 06/18/13 at 11:01:08 Drag race? Memphis Motorsports park is a 20-30 minute trip each way from the farm... Have no idea what night has "run what ya brung" time slots though. Found more feral hog sign in the back 20 acres... I'll go back there this evening and see if I can get a head count, they make a loop circuit through the area, they aren't always on site. Have a job interview this afternoon, will check when I get home from it and have a chance to load up the heavy duty hand cannon. The .44Spl is a touch light... and the 4" barrel is not as accurate as my 7.5" barrel .45 cap and ball with 50gr equivalent powder loads. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 06/19/13 at 05:41:24 Rex is the reigning "fast bike" but he doesn't actually run but every other trip or so (and he actually isn't really even the same bike when he does run as he is put together from various bits and pieces each time out). Dave's Slim Jim has some Rexy parts and he does run well, but he was in his break in period and his daddy didn't spank his throttle all the way more than a time or 3 during the last trip. I want to see them both in real running shape on the same trip ..... It doesn't have to be at the drag strip, just a piece of deserted road at least a mile or so long. We can put a person at each half mile to report who was in the lead at each point, that way one could lead early on and the other might beat it on the top end. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Dave on 06/19/13 at 05:54:53 I am not much of a drag racer! ;D I am trying really hard not to be a competitive biker......but to be one of the gang and just go with the flow. Rex has a bigger cam, bigger piston, and a very good mechanic as an owner........I am happy to accept that I will be a close 2nd to Lancer/Rex in a drag race, and that I will be in 3rd place behind OldFellow and MMRanch in the twisties (4th if BigZuk attends). My bike makes me happy.....and that is all I need to know. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by LANCER on 06/19/13 at 06:10:41 It would be nice to have everything working as it should for a change. I am hoping the complete change in wiring harness + black boxes will to the trick. It started and ran at the BRCG so now need to sort out the jetting for the new carb setup. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 06/19/13 at 07:04:35 Dave, we are guaranteeing that both you and Lancer show up with your happy face on and your bikes up and running. As to whether you could wup Lancer, that's not the point. I want to see two up and running Frankenbikes at the same time as THAT would be the real record setting event here. Besides, what do you think the Frog maybe/might be bringing to the party ????? The fat old green fool on Granny's silver sickle might sneak him in a bit of a spoiler, one can never know about him ..... he's known to do crazy silly things at times and he does keep a spare engine sitting around to do them with .... :) http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSCF000122.JPG ..... and now I've got to clean up my freshwater rods, too. The pond rods, anyway. That means at least 2-3 depending on what sort of stuff is in the pond in question. Ultralight, medium and hoggin' freshwater rods & reels ..... I used to take my young daughter fishing (it's been that long since I used the stuff). |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 06/19/13 at 12:43:03 Largemouth, channel cats, bluegill, white crappie, common snapping turtles, alligator snapping turtles, grass carp. And something that started out as bait shop minnows and looks kind of like a herring now. I just use 5-7 foot trout rods unless I'm flyfishing, then I may break out the 9.5' split bamboo or the 15' carbon/glass. Best bet is a couple training grenades... they don't bite on anything but worms, crickets, minnows, salmon eggs or cheese flavored glitter coated marshmallows (trout bait, left over from when I was in WA). |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by verslagen1 on 06/19/13 at 13:36:58 got any fishin' arrows? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 06/19/13 at 19:03:11 Frog gigs and spear gun darts. And a ginormous trawl net... And a couple hand crank telephones. Oh, and a couple associates who are big time into blowing stuff up. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 06/19/13 at 19:22:07 Sounds like we won't be needing the local fishing license, we will be needing a demolition license instead ..... ;D I bet I can get more & bigger dominant bull frogs to leap out to maul/attack my special double hooked gimpy frog bait than you can get using a frog gig ..... |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 06/20/13 at 02:28:38 Probably, seeing as I never go frog gigging. Easier to go to the Chinese buffets, they normally have them at supper time. ;D |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 06/22/13 at 06:55:41 http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSCF000321.JPG Ah, my caretaker, the Feng Shui dragon spirit that always rides on my pillion behind me, she is obviously contemplating an act of advanced reloading again. We always give the Feng Shui kitty lots of time to contemplate the various choices involved with bullets and powders, etc. and go with the ying/yang balance that gives the most expansion and penetration. In this case pure SPEED isn't the answer -- speed ends up with shallow penetration and a fragmented bullet. Why is this here on the WD thread? (hint: it is a shoot 'n scoot, right?) Well now, we have several miraculous coincidences that occur when you sort out people according to their passions and one of these coincidences is that all the "at speed" Dragon Riders this year, Dave MM and I, we all own the same little pistol, of which two of the three of us have played around with boring and stroking the little jewel a bit. So, it is a pistol of interest to the Dragon Riders as we all picked it out of the world of pocket pistols. So, why the cut down 30 carbine case? Pppppppressure, of course. The 32 acp harkens back to blackpowder days and has a SAMMI max of 18,000 cup which isn't beans compared to the lock up strength of the P-32 pistol. The 30 carbine had a stock pressure level of 38,000 cup which is more in the working range we are interested in. Now MM can tell you what happens if you put a lot of extra pressure inside a stock 32 acp case and you don't do anything to handle the resulting slide slamming action. My gun was put together at the same time MouseMag32 and GoldenLoki did the original MouseMag development (back when the guns first came out) and mine is identical to Mouse's gun in its construction. Extended recoil housing for longer recoil action and the nested triple recoil springs as per Mouse's recipe. My magazine follower is more like Golden's than Mouse's as Golden's worked more reliably and still allowed you a carry capacity of 4 in the mag with one up the tube. Since both Mouse and Golden have gone silent on us (RIP on Mouse, Golden has just gotten too old on us) I suspect mine is the last of the original 32 Mouse Magums that is still working. This is to be expected as Keltec sells a .380 little pistol and a 9mm little pistol now and there is no need for the 32 AutoMagnums any more. Golden's posted gel testing at the time showed 14" of penetration and .48" expanded petals using the Hornaday 90 grain bullet so I am looking to see what can be done using the new Hornaday 100 grain XTP and some of the newer slower powders to perhaps get some additional penetration depth at a somewhat slower launch speed, along the lines of the FBI's 147 grain 9mm load. The issue with the 32 acp is to get all the way through the vitals and penetrate into the spine, something that only 32 ball ammo can currently reliably do. Of course the wound cavity left with ball ammo that small isn't anything really incapacitating, so you can see why some additional Fung Shui kitty thought has been required on this complex and puzzling issue. It is a real balancing act between slower powders, case capacity and bullet seating depth. Plus the resulting recoil has to knock the slide all the way back, which is something that isn't always that easy to do on a triple springed MouseMag32 set up. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSCF000519.JPG I am also going to cook me something up with the Sierra 90 grain slug, as it has a shorter shoulder to meplat distance and it may allow more powder capacity than any of the original 90 grain bullets had to offer. Plus, Power Pistol powder didn't exist back then .... and it does well in small cases making big power in those smaller amounts. ;) time to play with some old toys again ..... |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 06/22/13 at 09:13:26 Definitely a scoot and shoot event. I found one place that can get me .38 Long Colt for one of the revolvers here. Although, it has been professionally reamed to handle .38 Specials... need to drill out the hammer nose retaining pin and fit a new piece, the original firing pin wore so thin it snapped off. That's a lot of rounds over a 90 year time span... Have to fix it soon, Lisa sold her "jam-o-matic" and wants to switch to her grandfather's old service revolver. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by MMRanch on 06/22/13 at 23:50:37 Well OldFeller at the loading bench ... I'll bring some of the loads that broke the barrel on my p32 and see if Mr. 3 springs will even cycle with them ??? I'm not sure what presure they run at but its the Lee 90 gr SWC mold cut down to make a 71 gr. SWC then loaded with HS-6 to make the little gun bounce about all I want in that small of a pistol. I have the amount of HS-6 noted somewhere but I'll have to "Hunt-it-up". I have a 32mag-4inch (S+W...? 63 ?) that I load the 77 gr ranchDog for , and have found that the AutoComp powder works great in .! Its a "J" frame and without going over presure its posible to load hot enough to couse wrist problems , makes me wonder "Why the 327 mag. was even needed ??? shorter barrels ???? I have a Davis 2 shot Deringer made for 32ACP but recut for 32 H+R Mag , it will jump out of your hand with the Mags in it , so it gets fed 32 S+W Longs just a little on the Hot side ... Anyway getting back to the AutoComp .. it will remind ya of H-110 or WW296 but a lot finer gr. burns nice and clean. I'm guessing your looking at the AutoComp too ? :-? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 06/23/13 at 04:44:33 No, I have plenty of WC 820 which is as close to AA#9 which is about as close to H110 as you ever need to get. Your stock brass won't fit the chamber of my pistol. 32 Automag brass is both longer and thicker than 32acp brass. A 2" barrel won't burn slow powders efficiently, so you have to balance the bullet mass and the burn speed and the length of the barrel so you get as much velocity out of the heavy slug as you can without busting the little pistol. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 06/23/13 at 10:30:57 My wife just notice the gummy worm change lump that I had put out for her to find. Gummy worm change lump? Whuzzat? Well now, let's go back in time a bit --- to 18 to 20 years ago to when I used to take trips down the Little River in an aluminum boat with some of my Pals (AWANA church group boys). On the last one of those trips we got a heavy thunderstorm which threw the little cricklike Little River into full flood, which made the aluminum boat uncontrollable (it was like riding a pinball machine, bouncing off of bushes and trees and all, sometimes in the channel but most times out of the banks. We aborted after playing pinball for a bit and pulled the boat out of the water, walked the 150 yards to the road that parallels the Little River and stuck our thumb out for a ride to the nearest country store. We got there all covered in slimey river gook and broken tree branch twigs and smelling like the bilgewater in the bottom of the boat. NO money, no wallet on me, no nothing on us for ID. 2 big bums and three little bums in desperate need of a shower. We were obviously "needy" so the folks in the store were generous and gave us some dollars and some change so we could all get a drink and the folks running the store let me call the wife to come get us. Then we went out on the grass median in front of the store and promptly took a nap until the wife got there. We wuz beat, for shure. The remainder of the loose change wound up in the tackle box, where it got slathered with melted plastic bass worms and some structural material from the box itself along with miscellaneous fish hooks and lead shot weights, etc. 20 years of getting tossed around and decomposing and recomposting made a wad out of it all. Sorta looks like a cat ate everything it found in the bottom of the tackle box and then horked it back up in a slimy kitty pile ..... Plan backfired a bit on me, now my wife wants to take one of the cats to the vet for X rays as the fish hooks have her all concerned for tearing up the cat's stomach as this one cat is stupid enough to have actually done it for real. .... and the residue streaks from the red plastic worms mixed with the green plastic worms sorta looks like bloody stool jest a little bit ..... |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by MMRanch on 06/23/13 at 11:35:21 Its only a cat ! Ya'll could problem have a really nice date for the price of a Vet bill ... ;D |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 06/24/13 at 05:41:23 What do you mean it's only a cat? Unbeliever !! Heretic !! Oh, mistress of the pillion seat, forgive MM for his disbelief, and please continue to protect me from the Dragon with your steely gaze and sharp claws ,,,, give me aid in my reloading efforts to achieve my goals and to still keep my pistol and my hand in one piece. The Dragon and the Feng Shui have a lot in common actually. Both are mystical beasts with magical fangs and big claws who show a lot of attitude at times. Feng Shui don't allow anybody to mess with their people though and although the Dragon is a lot bigger, he respects that. Even a full grown male Dragon has better sense than to piss off a female Feng Shui .... she'd turn his luck around on him in a heartbeat and beat him over the head with it for weeks & weeks & weeks. You might want to keep that in mind MM, before you go round start'n dissin' the kitty. =========== And now, for your viewing pleasure --- acts of reloading http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSCF000412.JPG Building the 32MouseMag (or 32 Automag as some like to call it since Mouse went and died on us) is a fairly long process of cutting off on a lathe, beveling and expanding the ID in two different steps. The result is a case that can take 38,000 cup in theory, in practice you don't want to guppy belly the brass over the unsupported ramp in the P32 all that much. Building 250 custom cases takes a good bit more time than you would think it would, actually. Makes the actual loading time seem "too quick". "Some" reloading info for the case and for the heavier bullets (90 grain and 100 grain) is available, just look under 32 H&R Magnum in your reloading books for powder selection rankings. Taking their help in sorting out the powders helps as you CAN put those loads into the larger diameter 30 carbine brass, then you can ladder your way up to a mixture of slide lock back and velocity that makes you happy. Just don't expect to get those big velocities out of a 2" barrel gun. You get more than you'd expect as you have no gap losses to contend with but you will be blowing a great deal of burning powder granules out of the 2" barrel when doing so. AA#7 is a flash suppressed powder, so the overblast will be a dull orange ball of fire and since you won't be looking down the barrel in most scenarios some overblast is OK -- it has some intimidation factor and on those close contact-type shots overblast can be devastating in its own right. A observer would not think you were popping with a 32 caliber mouse gun in any case -- the noise and blast would lead them to think you were really armed with something more significant. Pressure is safe though, as the AA#7 loads you see listed will boost the heavy 100 grain slug up to velocity at relatively low 22,000 cup pressures. (Got to love them Lee Sr. manuals as he lists the pressures for each load and nobody else does) You can't blow up the gun because you can't put enough AA#7 in there to do it. Power Pistol is a different story. It will mostly burn in a 2" barrel. YOU CAN do overcharges in this case with Power Pistol. Pressures run a lot higher for the velocity achieved, too. Not my first pick of the litter, so I will increment up with AA#7 first to see if I can get 1,000 plus fps out of it. :o |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 06/25/13 at 07:37:49 Aside: having a small lathe is really nice. You need you a custom bullet seater pusher because you are misusing a .32acp seating die to seat a case that won't even go up inside the die more than 1/3 of the way, why you just make one up in about 10 minutes time. Time to put powder in cases. Firing a 100 grain jacketed bullet out of a P32 is terra incognito as far as anything goes and I do not want to break the gun (got way too much time invested in it to break it right off the bat). you can call me chicken So, first run of 5 is a WAY WAY too slow powder, AA#9 (or in my case surplus WC820 which is between AA#9 and H110 depending on the actual application (according to them boys who use it a lot). AA#9 (WC820) may wind up being the one to use as the shot start pressure (brass grip on the bullet) is gonna be extreme and the weight of the bullet is relatively huge for the caliber. Shot start resistance is going to call the tune for the overall pressure curve, making even the very slowest powders act hotter than normal. Powder column contact starts at 4 grains so I will quit the progression at 4.5 grains. I will also need to get me a .30 carbine full length sizing die for post sizing the assembled rounds. There is a bulge at the bullet base that will not chamber easily -- need to iron that bulge back down some. Ramp and magazine may require tuning as well after I have some post sized rounds to try out. 100 grain bullets are pushing the whole envelope a bit in every aspect. =============== While I am here, I will do some 90 grain bullets with AA#9, just to see what new stuff I can learn about brass & bulges etc. =============== Time to go hit the net for a .30 carbine full length sizing die to battle them bulges with .... ;D but it is fun to do stuff like this, you know |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by MMRanch on 06/25/13 at 21:37:54 but it is fun to do stuff like this, you know I'm on the hunt for a majic load for my Contender 14" 222 Rem. now. Its got an extra 5" of flash suppressor welded to it so its sholder-stock legal. Should be a tack driver ... and it is with jacked bullets .... but .... I like to mold my own ! :D so far 10 gr of H-4227 and that Bator bullet is the best combo (3"/100yds) thats what the scope is set for now. The Bator looses speed quick so I got a RBCS 60gr. pointed bullet mold I'm expermenting with now. To much case capacity I think ... next experment is with bulkky powder . I've tried IMR-4198 from 14grs to 18grs. TrailBoss or Varget is next . I may or may not ever find the right combo to make the 60gr bullet work but I'm enjoying looking for it. :) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 06/25/13 at 21:41:15 Man, I shoot tighter groups than that with a Ruger Old Army cap and ball .45 and 35gr FFFg... ;D |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by MMRanch on 06/25/13 at 21:54:56 Hay WD I've got a Rem old army with 8" and target sights maby I should bring it in Sept. its a fun gun to shoot ! I'll bet that Ruger is too ! You burning "777" ? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 06/26/13 at 00:02:43 Anywhere from 5-25 gr Triple 7 FFFg equivalent AND a 30 grain equivalent Pyrodex pistol pellet. Wonder Wad and a Hornady .457 swaged round ball, all sealed up with Thompson Center T17 blue gunk. Touched off by a #10 or #11 cap. My cylinder was recut for the previous owner, it's a retired competition gun. And it is a first year, with the brass dragoon Super Blackhawk grip frame, trigger and hammer, front sight has an orange plastic insert for quicker realignment on target. Target rear sight, 7.5" barrel, custom grip panels (no Ruger inserts)... Puts my Wolf and Klar Smith and Wesson 3rd Model .44 Hand Ejector to shame, accuracy and knockdown power... 246 grain fmj flatnose .44 Special self defense loads seem wimpy next to full house hunting loads in the cap and ball. I've even retired my octagon barrel, crescent butt Winchester .30/30 saddle cabine, the Ruger revolver is a better gun. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by MMRanch on 06/27/13 at 10:40:15 Yep I was supprised at the power level these old type guns have. I'm shooting 30 Grs FFF of 777 behind a 200 cast projectile lubed with lee alox. Shoots just fine but its a bugger to get apart after a few shots. Its' the Stainless target modle from Dixie-Gun-Works up in Union City. I shot a deer with it once , seen the deer comming and ran ahead to set-up an ambush point. Sure enough 20 min. later here they came. They got to a point 72 paces from me when the lead doe smelled me , I know couse she piled up where she stood when that 200 grs. broke her neck. I did have good cover and a slight uphill shot from a prone pistion working in my favor. Well the bullet didn't exit but did allmost make it to the skin on the far side . I guess the neck bone slowed it down quite a bit. I have shot the .451 jacked bullets made for the acp but the pure lead is more accurate. The Remington cylinders are close enougth to 451 the jackets stay where they're put. If you have figured a way to keep fowlling from locking things up after 10 or 12 rounds I'd like to see how ya do it. :) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 06/27/13 at 11:45:58 MM, what day are you planning to show up? Still trying to get you and Dave to say the day that you were going to arrive on and the day you're planning to leave on so I can aim to hit "center of people" so to speak. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Dave on 06/27/13 at 12:20:14 47646C6E6D64646D7A080 wrote:
I am just watching the discussion......aint nobody mentioned a motorcycle in days. Am I the only one bring a bike? I hate to be the only moving target within range :o! |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 06/27/13 at 13:29:44 I think we're all bring a bike but some of us are bringing some few extra things too. Time for me to reserve vacation days and I kinda need to know when the rest you guys were showing up, and some hints as to when you planned on leaving. Monday is the first "the gang's all here" day. Lancer is staying all week. MM still hasn't said --- nor have you. MM is in for Monday 9/16, Dave is still silent on the subject Out of the group, you & I are the only ones scheduling vacation time for the trip. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by verslagen1 on 06/27/13 at 15:07:36 If I make it sunday, definitely won't be all there. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 06/27/13 at 21:17:09 MM, it's a substitute, and the Ruger seems to be cleaner than the traditional designs. And, it is all coil spring operated, less likely to jam up. Dave, I'll have on hand: 72 VW Super Beetle "Cal-look" lowrider, 1949 and 1969 Dodge 1/2 tons, my 98 high bar Savage, 1971 Honda CL100, 1963 Honda CL72, Lisa's 1996 Intruder 800, and a rather retro first year 1500 Drifter (our friend/farmhand's bike, should have around 100K miles on it by then, currently around 90K). You guys best start making a list of what you want to do besides fish, shoot/hunt, and get indigestion at the local eateries... Shiloh Battlefield? Fort Pillow Battlefield? Graceland and Sun Studios? Beale Street? General Nathan Bedford Forrest's gravesite? Steamboat tour? Oh, my cabin tent split... plan accordingly. And if y'all have forgotten, the camping on my place is beyond primitive... And mid-September is still HOT here, bring lightweight attire... Heat index today was 112*F at the farm, pond felt like a bath tub. Don't feel bad Verslagen, I live here and I'm never all here... ;D |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by MMRanch on 06/27/13 at 22:13:15 Well .... Sunday is Family day around here so I'll probelly leave out Monday moring soon as my bones-get-to-moving. So Me and the tent should be in West TN. by mid afternoon. WD did you say we'll have a out-house and a water hose for admiddites ? ;D which brings up another question ??? Will it hurt anything to get a little soap in the pond ? :-? Just kidding ... I was thinking of a fast driping waterhose over a tree limb.and a big rock or board to stand on. ::) Looking forward to it , and a walk around Beal ST. would be good ! :) :) I had a rack of the BEST ribs I ever ate there , Hay !!! :-? :o :o ;) a ride up to Union City to see Dixie Gun Works should work-out perty good with this bunch !!! For those who have never been there its kinda like a cross between the knife works (of Black Powder) and a history musumnm. :P |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 06/27/13 at 23:00:58 I'll double check the hours at DGW, and some of the best fried fish in the state isn't far from there at Reelfoot Lake (for those who've never seen it, a chunk of the MS River stranded by the 1811 New Madrid Fault Quake). Well, off to bed, have to either mow the orchards or get more tomato and pepper plants in the ground tomorrow. We'll have at least 100 tomato plants (10 varieties) and a couple hundred bell, poblano and jalapeno pepper plants. Oh, guess I'd best plan to drive the tool, parts, etc truck... and I'd best get one of the other projects running too in case we need 4 wheeled transport for some reason. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 06/28/13 at 07:28:03 OK, since I am supposed to be tenting with MM then I will plan to show by late afternoon time, Monday Sept 16th. This will give Verslagen a day to recuperate from his drive and to spend a little catch up time with Lancer. Both should be all rested up and at 90%+ by then. (us old folks need some recuperation time to get up over 80% you know) A week long trip, some riding, some fishing, some shooting. Beef ribs, yum. Dixie Gun works, fun. :D |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 06/28/13 at 07:58:50 http://www.usa.com/38011-tn-weather.htm The above is the "general trend" weather for the area. General trend says 60 to 80 (low to high historical temps) so add a few for WD's real world knowledge and we should be in 65 to 85 general range when we get there. Below is the link for the 30 day running forecast which as we know from the Blue Ridge trip is totally generalistic BS until you get inside the last 2 weeks, in which case it becomes a lot more meaningful. http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/brighton-tn/38011/july-weather/16512_pc?monyr=7/1/2013 We should be in the nice camping weather zone, don't you think? As far as the bi-daily camping bath goes, do we travel near a big truck stop on I-40 at any time in our loops? Go in, tank up your vehicle and take a free complementary shower, isn't that how it works? My motorcycle is a vehicle, ain't it? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 06/30/13 at 16:18:44 Minimum of 50 gallons for a comped shower. The YMCA in Millington only charges a buck or two for shower and steam room. Our "nice below average" temp of low 80s today was instead low 90s. Weathermen are about as useful as doctors and lawyers around here, not very. Beef ribs? Yuck, all bone and fat, only fit for the dog, the local butcher shops all specialize in pig parts. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Dave on 06/30/13 at 16:33:36 I don't know my schedule yet....need to check my work load and the schedule that my social director (wife) has previously arranged. I will be sleeping in my motorcycle trailer....small and cozy! Dave |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 06/30/13 at 17:21:33 Well, I am glad the gang is all here -- wouldn't be the same without all the Dragon boys in attendance. I mentioned I needed a 30 carbine case sizing die so I could post-size out some bumps in the seated bullet case (locally deform the cup & core lead core bullet a bit where needed) to make the cases slide into my chamber effortlessly and neatly. All factory ammo is post-sized for this very reason, every single piece of it. Lawsuits cost much more than an extra manufacturing step/station. What I really didn't count on was that Americans have taken up reloading in a really really really big way lately -- There ARE no dies available from Lee and I ain't paying 2x-3x the price for RCBS, Redding, Dillon, etc. even if they were available. I found a Lee die set sitting at Optics Planet, sent them the money and they missed their ship date and I had to contact them. They said it was a B/O item with no known delivery date and did I want to cancel? Heck yes, and thank you for wasting a week of my time while you KNEW you didn't have what I had ordered. Tried again on Ebone, so far the man has my Paypal money but still hasn't provided me ship information yet. I am smelling another no-show, I think I do. (smells like dried possum guts on the front of your frame & engine, it does) Boys, M1 Cabine, caliber 30 isn't a ball busting popular caliber, but it is 100% sold out on components and dies and everything else associated with it in any of the normal retail channels. Secondary channels look bare, too. If you want some real frustration, go try to buy something for 9mm or 40 short&weak -- yeah, you just thought you were gonna buy something. Check your ammo supply for what you were planning on bringing. Tula and Wolf and Fiocchi are the primers you can buy now-a-days (if & when you can find them). 9mm jacketed slugs do exist, but only as bulk style thin roller drum plated jobbies. Ditto for 40 caliber slugs. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 06/30/13 at 17:53:41 Like I keep telling folks on the S&W forum I belong to... buy a flintlock. Marbles are cheap, powder can be homemade if you are careful, and my driveway gravel is roughly 60-70% flint (pretty close to free per shot)... You want hard to find? Lisa got rid of her .380 Bersa jam-o-matic that couldn't hit the barn wall from inside the barn consistently, and wants me to fix her late grandfather's .38 Long Colt wheel gun for her. It is an S&W K-frame (also known as the military and police or the Model 1905 Hand Ejector) Basque built clone that takes a Colt Detective's Special hammer nose... can't find a hammer nose, let alone .38 Long Colt locally. It will however handle S&W .38 Special, but all I can find locally is Fiocchi... in 120 something grain fmj, gun needs 158gr lrn... :'( |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by verslagen1 on 07/01/13 at 13:08:38 caps... check lead... check powder... check pellets... check air... gonna have to get some while I'm there. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 07/01/13 at 21:13:29 Bring oil, the air here is kinda soupy... don't suppose you have any gaskets for the pump on a Franklin 312 .22 air rifle floating around... mine died. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 07/03/13 at 09:02:27 Verslagen is planning to pop him some squirrels out of your pecan trees with his $79.00 Crosman Titan .22 air rifle. Well, I'll bring mine and we can walk down the rows of pecan trees and you can see the ones that hide from me and vice versa, I'll see the ones that hide from you ..... |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 07/03/13 at 09:08:27 I just sit on the porch and knock them out of the poplar in the front yard. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 07/05/13 at 09:26:35 Went fishing at the pond yesterday... holy sh*t are there some big fish in there. There's a catfish I keep seeing that has to be 20+ pounds... Bring 40% DEET bug spray, anything weaker is just seasoning. I'll get the area Sevined or malathioned before you guys get here but... :o And you might want some ear plugs, very rude owls here. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 07/07/13 at 06:37:34 Well, I applied for vacation on the 1st of July and this comes rolling out of the front office on July the 5th. As I count them, I have 3 conflicts for these required "must show up" dates and our current planned trip days. I was showed my vacation request with dis-approved on it in red magic marker, and it was asked if the motorcycle trip could be shifted a week further out as we are running short manned and all security employees must be on deck for the two home games and the media politician's visit. Never mind, wife has reminded me we have plans to take off during Fall Break already. No WD trip for me this year I guess. All, In order to ensure sufficient staffing levels for athletic and other special events during the upcoming Fall Semester, I have advised our Lieutenants not to approve any discretionary leave requests for the following dates.... Thursday, August 15...................Prep for New Student Orientation Friday, August 16........................New Student Orientation Saturday, August 17....................New Student Orientation Sunday, August 18......................New Student Orientation Monday, August 19......................Day and Evening Classes Begin Saturday, September 14..............Football vs. Guilford College Wednesday, September 18..........Sanjay Gupta Visit (re-scheduled from last spring) Saturday, September 21..............Football vs. Emory and Henry Saturday, October 5....................Football vs. Christopher Newport Friday, October 25......................Homecoming / Family Weekend Saturday, October 26...................Football vs. Lagrange / Homecoming / Family Weekend Sunday, October 27.....................Concert featuring Matt Nathanson (open to university community and general public via advance ticket distribution; estimated attendance 1000+) Saturday, November 16................Football vs. NC Wesleyan Friday, December 13....................Commencement Dinner / Special Event Prep Saturday, December 14................Baccalaureate and Commencement Events Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Thank you. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 07/19/13 at 10:42:08 Well, that's no fun. We'll just have to carry on in your absence best we can. Putting new shoes on Pokey tomorrow. Still debugging the electrical, want to have it ready to slap in a tensioner and ride during the get together. There is always next year, either at my place or another central USA location. Heck, if you are really unlucky, I'll bring the heap on the Dragon Run one of these years... although I'd prefer a VN800A for a trip like that, the Savage, even with all its modifications, is still a 250 sized platform. But my 250 has a better suspension... ;) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 07/20/13 at 07:38:18 I think we will still do a early summer & early fall trip next year and I can only hope we are allowed to hire enough people at work to fill in the org chart next year rather than to go into the new school year under a hiring freeze with multiple multiple slots empty. That way I might be able to take a week off during the fall. But with the economy the way it is, I ain't a holding my breath for it. Early summer is a lot easier to get off since the summer manning die off hasn't happened yet. MM is making noise about going to see his place in the spring for a spring trip. We'll see if he can get it all organized and get some folks lined up to go. That's next year's fun anyway. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by MMRanch on 07/20/13 at 14:28:53 WoooWWooooo One Year at a Time ! ;D Coming to my neithborhood is easy to do. Local hotel for some Back-yard for campers Bike ralley weekend would be nice (fathers day weekend) Saturday would be "Do the Poker Run" The rest of the week about a 100-150 mile run every day. ............................................. Which reminds me WD how far is that RailRoad place from your place ,,, the one with the giant figure of Cassy Jones ? That might make a day trip ??? :) :) :) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 07/20/13 at 19:35:53 Casey Jones Village? Hour, hour and a half, some such. A LOT closer than Dixie Gun Works (which has really odd business hours)... |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by MMRanch on 07/20/13 at 20:40:47 One tank of gas makes a nice ride then another tank going home makes for a nice day ! ;) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/21/13 at 09:58:27 what kinda wrenchin you guys gonna do? gonna get wd's 40 runnin? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 07/21/13 at 12:00:58 Wrenching? Only if we do the Versy to it. I expect I'll have everything fixed by then, or will have declared it terminal and pushed it somewhere out of sight to rot. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 08/03/13 at 20:14:42 Take a 5 gallon pail, fill it 4/5 with sand. Get some dead carpet and roll it up until it will barely fit in the mouth of the 5 gallon pail, with the hole in the center big enough for the gun and your fist (allowing room for the slide to move freely of course). Put pail & carpet in innermost bathroom (maximum amount of house between you and noisy neighbors), shut all doors to all rooms and load the first of the powder series into the chamber. Insert gun, fist and part of a towel into the hole, aim straight down and fire away. <pop> I've had party poppers make more noise. Remove gun, nope, it didn't lock back. Yep, everything still in one piece .... hand included. Lift roll of carpet and low and behold, a CRATER in the sand, 8" deep down to the bullet. Pulled non-ejected casing, no flattening of primer, no guppy belly over the ramp. Looks weak .... Pound the sand flat with a piece of 2x4 and reinstall carpet roll. Load next in powder series and repeat. Keep going until you get lock back. Go 2 past lock back until first sign of primer flatten/extrusion effects occurs. Mild kick back effects felt even when using extended grip/magazine. Stop -- that's enough for one night. Time to think about it some. I was using AA#7 because I wanted a slow and predictable pressure build, and I think I got that. I was also running up into mildly compressed loadings, which isn't totally terrible and happens with small cases and slow powders. But I don't think I got very much extra anything out of that last half grain of powder, it was all blown out the pipe with the bullet I do believe. I also got zero expansion of a hollow point shooting into sand -- will repeat a test in some water jugs just to see if the jackets for the heavier slugs are simply too thick for the intended use. Could be. People aren't as tough as sand, so I certainly got the improved penetration that I was after anyway, using the 90 grain jacketed slug. No expansion is bad though, sorta defeats the purpose of the hollow point slug. ;) You go into unknown places, you got to deal with the unknown all the way. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 08/07/13 at 16:55:13 Old dock is cut down and cleared away, new one is going up this week. Persimmons should be ready when you guys get here, several native trees have set fruit this year. Will one 80' tall red oak be enough firewood? It has been down since late June or early July, will be ready to use by the gathering... |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by SuperSavage on 08/08/13 at 13:09:44 WD, I'm selling my 800A. Go check it out on craigslist, Long Island NY. 1996 Kawasaki Vulcan 800A. She's a runner... |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 08/09/13 at 15:06:30 Ship it down... still have a full fender for the rear and a spare 30s tail light, and the Chief style saddlebags... blew the bottom end out after previously twisting the speedometer cable apart once and the speedometer drive once... She was kinda warmed up, put out over 50 rear wheel horse power... 8-) http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y490/mphsgal/LISA-HP/Photos/Vulcan/currentchindii_zps994a7ec1.jpg Also had an 800B (Classic), which was one of the worst bikes I've ever had the misfortune of riding. No pics of it. Good riddance. Oh, new dock stringers and 20-25% of the new decking is installed. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 08/10/13 at 18:13:12 Although I can't get off work to go on the trip, I still have the P32 stuff out on my work bench and I take a poke at it every week or so -- the unknown keeps popping up out of left field and making me figure out ways to get around it. One of the things I deal with is NO GOOD BULLETS AVAILABLE, so I am working with slugs I would not normally buy. By default, I would go with a Gold Dot in any weight that I am trying out. Expansion with a Gold Dot is an already done thing -- they fully expand the plated pellet with the nose cutter then pack it back together to look like a bullet. When it hits something, even water, it unpacks to the fully expanded state again, very very reliably it unpacks. Cops prefer Gold Dot strongly as it holds together in wood and in car doors, yet it will always unpack to the original form (the pic below was shot into plywood for example). The Gold Dot has a very good rep with all military and police forces for holding together in car doors, walls, etc and yet always expanding fully when it hits meat. http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/primary/214/214074.jpg http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/alt2/233/SP_GD_53617_9mmLuger_Plywood_Upset.jpg Anyhooo ...... so I haven't been able to worki with my favorite bullets and I miss them a lot. For example, working with a soft nose 90 grain Sierra means having to make a custom seating punch to support the totally totally bubble gum dead soft lead nose metal that they use to get reliable low speed expansion. The noses are so butter soft that insertion forces just to put the bullet in the brass are more than the nose can take and it gets mashed totally flat if not internally supported. Sadly, there is no .312" diameter 90 grain Gold Dot bullet any more, they quit making them. Going up to 100 grains currently right now means a Hornady XTP bullet (which is all that was available when I started this iteration). These bullets are HARD, harder than is reasonable and to try to get them to expand at mousegun speeds is ludicrous -- but I had to try anyway as that was all I could get. The same internal support punch that is required to seat the dead soft Sierra 90 grain bullet (it deepens and expands the hollow point while getting enough push purchase to install the bullet) will also expand the rock hard Hornady 100 grain into a partially pre-expanded state. Question is, will the Hornady 100 grain finish expanding at mousegun speeds once it hits something (doubtful, but we will give it a try since we bought the stupid things). Here are the bullets, and here is a fired case so you can eyeball judge the pressure levels the 32 Automag is currently running at. Chrony work comes later I am afraid, I am still in exploration mode shooting a in bucket of sand with my rug rig by my desk as I do load development and work through all the issues that keep cropping up (constant issues, constant). Bucket is now 98% full and the dirt is very hard tamped as I found myself running out of dirt depth when I went to the 100 grain bullets -- more dirt, harder packed was needed to stop the heavier slugs. In this heavy recoil eating triple sprung 32 Automag the 60 grain Gold Dot bullets are a total joke, they blow up completely in 5 inches of dirt due to the high impact speeds and only lots & lots of the very fastest powders can get enough slide momentum to knock the slide back all the way to battery lock on the 3 spring modded 32 Automag pistol. The extremely loud very sharp CRACK noise is a bit much too, much more than I would want to ever subject my bare ears to. A 5-6 inch deep very wide surface wound with no penetration afterwards isn't my ideal bullet performance either. It would kill given time, but it would not stop an hopped up assailant instantly like a 14-16" penetration past the heart to the spine would do. Bullet weight, I think I have learned something about for this particular gun. 90 grains is about the right weight for short handled (pocket carry) use. The gun kicks back at 90 grains more than you would like, but at 100 grains you really have to use the extended magazine/grip assembly to control the gun at all. Recoil forces are simply overpowering using the short grip at 100 grains of bullet weight, you'd never get your second shot off without eating the back of your hand with the slide movement on ejection of that second shot. Here are some pics of the loads developed so far, and a piece of fired brass so you can partially judge the performance levels of the rounds as worked up so far. Here are the starting point bullets before manipulations began ..... http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSCF000519.JPG .... and this is what they look like at this point in time. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSCF00055.JPG http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSCF000219.JPG .... and this is the current max pressure loading, starting to show guppy belly, imprinting the tooling marks from the chamber walls and getting a fairly bulgy/wiped/flattened primer and a little bit of shine on the head stamp. Pressure on this one might be up in the lower 30ks pressure wise, looks pretty much similar to a lot of the 9mm and 40 S&W cases I just deprimed recently and those run 36k on psi pressure roughly. The 32 Automag certainly isn't a wimpy little cartridge -- it cooks. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 08/11/13 at 07:19:29 Tried to do a water test using a 30" piece of carpet roll to make the water column. The 100 grain Hornaday slug split the seams of the carpet roll all the way to the ground then dug itself more than 6" deep in the soft ground. Expansion was moderate, and no telling if it was dirt or water that did it. Need bigger longer carpet roll section ..... |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by MMRanch on 08/11/13 at 07:46:15 OldFeller How fast you recon your pushing those 100 gr. slugs ??? I' m wondering about putting them in a 32 H&R rilfle for bamby and such ! :) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 08/11/13 at 11:22:49 Too fat for your chamber, won't fit. You need a rim anyway, don't you? You can do better out of a long gun, using existing brass and slow powders. Issue with the water test was NO EXPANSION, for the Hornaday XTP to expand takes rifle velocity because (dummie that I am) I bought me 100 bullets that were intended for a 32-20 rifle. That's OK -- back in the days of old when cup and core was all there was and Dean Grinnel was the reigning dean of the gun nuts, back when Jeff Cooper was making Super Poopers and various people were doing 45 Supers and 40 Supers and Whispers and all sorts of strange whacky stuff, back before reloading manuals got neutered by lawyers and lawsuits and laws got all convoluted and you could actually talk about what you just did -- there was a thing called a "claw hammer". Like Black Talons and Teflon coated bullets and all them other politically incorrect things, it was banned by the gun rags and vilified by liberal politicians in every city in the world. Getting claw hammered meant getting shot with no chance of recovery -- like a Black Talon a claw hammer was a magically bad bad bad bullet and the making of such things has been a lost secret for nearly four decades now. So, forget what you just saw ..... you really didn't see it because it doesn't exist and never has and never will. Like Area 51 it was a weather balloon and them THREE World Trade Centers really did come straight down in 9-12 seconds (free fall velocity) after being struck by only TWO airplanes. ;) http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSCF000614.JPG http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSCF000220.JPG Yup, that other thing you didn't see was a 100 grain 32 caliber claw hammer bullet seated to fit the magazine of a tiny diminutive 32 Automag, another one of them silly mythical thingies that never was and will never exist. Ain't no super high pressure magnum autoloader that little itty bitty. Never was, never will be. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSCF000221.JPG http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSCF000413.JPG |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by MMRanch on 08/11/13 at 20:25:54 :-? O K lets try this another way .... How fast do you recon you are pushing those projectiles , to make them expand like that or does it just take a +- .200" drill bit put in the right place ? I've been loading for my 32Mag for 15+ years now , mostley with projectiles I mold , but that mushroom you posted looked impressive ! :o For the record : in a 32 mag you can shoot 32S&W , 32 auto , 32 Long, 32 colt , and 32 Mag. The Full power 32 Mag out of a "J" frame 4" gun bounces enough to sting my hand , so I doin't normally load them that HOT . And I've got one of those Kel-Tec pistol. They are kinda "Light" to be making a 100gr. bullet expand like that . :P ;)But they sure disappear in the pocket good ! I had toyed with the idea of getting a 32H&R barrel (24" or Long enough to burn all the powder and be Quiet as posible ) for my conterder carbine and putting a scope on it. I have down loaded my 30-30 to the same effect but ... the contender is light and handy. :) May do it yet ! |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 08/11/13 at 23:51:13 Rest easy in your mind, the expanded bullet shown was a factory stock Gold Dot bullet. You can just go buy those, normally. They are becoming available again, slowly -- Speer can't keep up with demand on the things by a long shot right now, so any popular caliber is always out of stock at all places. The claw hammer trick is just that, a old trick, a trick that is done in the seating die using an expanding punch that opens up the stock hollow point cavity and deepening it some. In essence you are pre-expanding the bullet mouth up to the degree your loading ramp in your pistol can tolerate and still feed reliably. When the already mostly expanded mouth hits meat it can finish the expansion quicker and to a greater degree than otherwise. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSCF000520.JPG This same trick can add a hollow point to a lead round nose bullet very easily. Ain't no drill bits involved, just pressure/swaging techniques. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by MMRanch on 08/12/13 at 20:50:46 :) So after crimping the case and bullet together ... you run the cartridge through a second time with the (modified) top punch tightened down an extra turn or two ? I've used a seating punch inside the bullet (hollow point) for years , but never ran-them-through the second time just to increase the hollow point. It all makes sense now that I think about it. Most of the time I use semi-wad cutter type and depend on the "cookie cutter" effect for a nice wound chanel , and it works just fine on TN. WhiteTail deer (110 - 175 #) with rib shots. The last bullet I recovered from a WhiteTail was a 200gr round-nosed .451 shot from a cap-and-ball pistol. 70 yards into the neck , skin on the far side cought it, deer droped where it was hit. The semi-wad cutters have been from a .357 rifle and they go right through , never found one yet . I'm gona have to expermint with HP now ! :P |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 08/13/13 at 09:02:19 Actually, since I have an extremely tight very thick walled case and a compressed powder load I can seat the bullet and expand the butter soft lead inside the cup and core hollow point HP all in one step. In this case the expansion is 100% completed before the bullet goes to the necessary depth in the case. Some info on those cast bullets that you did using wheel weight metal -- it is WAY too tough and hard for these tricks to work, especially if you water dropped it. I have put water dropped ww metal 44 magnum slugs through a tree and they didn't move any to speak of, so don't expect these piddly seating die tricks to do anything to them. ============== Still, claw hammers are a lot of extra work, because they DO get irregular in shape when first expanded and about half of them require pushing the expansion back into a circle form (using a 8mm rifle seating punch with the long taper to it) then re-opening the hollow point back up and then sometimes having to fix it again as it gets warped again on re-expansion. Eventually, it gets round enough for government work while still at full expansion. Fiddle work, lots of it. Labor intensive to say the least, too many steps, too much work. So if you can find a Gold Dot bullet just buy the silly thing. You can go with the standard Gold Dot shape and be assured it will work 100% at any lower velocity you might get out of a stock p32 using a heavy bullet. http://https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/product_images/021-3990/021-3990.jpg The Gold Dot is the bullet you want to buy if you want to play with some heavy bullet tricks. I just ordered a box myself as I KNOW these will unpack just as pretty as you please and I don't know really know exactly what the claw hammers will do in the real world. Plus a claw hammered bullet looks exactly like what it is (big questions and perhaps some legal trouble in a shooting situation) while a 100 grain Gold Dot might just cruise right on by a busy cop as it looks exactly like the rounds he crams into his own magazine every day. Heck, he expects a bullet to look exactly just like that ..... You can buy some here as they have them in stock this week -- so move quick if you want some before they are GONE again. Warning: The Gold Dots that I actually got shipped in to me look NOTHING like the picture they are being sold under. These 100 grain Gold Dots are completely spec'd to run in a 1,500 fps Federal 32 Magnum Revolver. They look like rifle bullets again. Stock, they DO NOT HAVE the deep Gold Dot cavity and the expansion undercuts are much shorter as well since the bullet was intended to hit at very high velocity. They are tougher than a standard Gold Dot accordingly. Still, not as tough to work with as the Hornady XTP by a long shot. http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=000213990 In a stock P32 you will run into guppy belly big time on those thin walled weak stock cases at some pretty slow velocities as the pressure in the case will be highest when first fired just to get the big slug moving at all. In a stock 32acp case in a stock gun, likely you will break something during ejection cycle as the slide velocity will be extreme and the case itself might just rupture at the unsupported section of the web over the ramp and tear your gun all up again. When I get my Gold Dots in and build me up 100 full bore rounds I will do the chrony testing and the water expansion tests using the standard 5 water filled milk jugs lined up in a row. You can reference a lot of .380 and 9mm information on Youtube using this exact same test media, and although it is crude as a test it requires no investment in gelatin casting & stuff to get you a rough benchmark. Chrony data and milk jugs and expanded diameter slug let you say "My Frankenstein creation performs about like a ....." with some fair amount of credibility. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 08/17/13 at 09:20:34 So, this is the last reloading post hijacking in on WD's motorcycle trip thread. If I had been able to go I would have been ready with copious amounts and varieties of milk jug popping fast expanding rounds to play with. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSCF000615.JPG As MM can tell you, casting and reloading are all part of the fun of shooting. Right now I think a whole LOT of people are going to learn to take up the reloading hobby as at $20 and up for a box of just 20 rounds you'd be insane to try to keep your core shooting skills up with factory built ammo. :D I sure had a blast playing with the old itty bitty toy again, and I think MM and Dave will enjoy playing with it too whenever the spring time trip comes round again. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Dave on 08/21/13 at 07:07:55 0B2820222128282136440 wrote:
Should I interpret this as a hint.....that OF has a winter engine project planned? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by LANCER on 08/21/13 at 07:16:51 417A7760717D66607B737E61120 wrote:
Should I interpret this as a hint.....that OF has a winter engine project planned?[/quote] Ah, the mad scientist has something in the works ? ? Any connection to the "Skunk Works" projects of years gone by ? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by verslagen1 on 08/21/13 at 08:11:17 515C535E584F0F0A3D0 wrote:
Whole different division... stunk works. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by LANCER on 08/21/13 at 09:30:47 716275746B6660626936070 wrote:
Whole different division... stunk works.[/quote] OH, you're so bad ! ;D |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by verslagen1 on 08/21/13 at 10:02:22 4548474A4C5B1B1E290 wrote:
Whole different division... stunk works.[/quote] OH, you're so bad ! ;D[/quote] IDK... I kinda like it... I think I'm gonna adopt it. I work just down the street from the original skunk works so it kinda fits. Hair of the dog that bit ya kinda thing. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 08/22/13 at 03:18:51 Now, jest what am I supposed to be doing to my bike again? I just changed the front brake pads, so it is going to be going "steady state" now for the next 5-10 years (or until something else breaks again, anyway). To beat Dave's Slim Jim in a flat straight road race would take a lot more engine than I currently have and you'd have to question the money invested to do that since I can generally outrun Dave now on what I have now. This has more to do with Dave's comfort levels more than his engine performance, or my current craziness level if you want to take it from that perspective. Or I can give it to you this way, BigZuk could spank the lot of us on a stock Suzuki Savage on any curvy road (he did it for years now, didn't he). How ??? Skill and Crazy -- he had both in large quantities. Same thing that took Zuk out will take me out soon enough, I am afraid. Age and discomfort levels are still going up year on year on year. So, unless Yoda wants to gift me with some more interesting performance parts that he is too lazy to put into his own bike, I am done. The old hand puppet was playing with an odd looking spark plug the other day, it had absolutely no central electrode and was all flat & squashed looking. I refused to take the bait though, I could tell he was up to something .... ::) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Dave on 08/22/13 at 06:09:05 556E6374656972746F676A75060 wrote:
Should I interpret this as a hint.....that OF has a winter engine project planned?[/quote] OF....Yep. It is fun riding around with the gang. I read more into your statment than was intended.....I though you were going to do an upgrade or two. My bike is pretty much as fast as it needs to be. I do ride just a tad below my perceived maximum......I need to be able to come home in one piece each year....my wife likes having me around. My friends and family expect that I have enough sense to ride safely.....and I try not to let them down. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 08/22/13 at 09:18:52 See, he's got the bike but his crazy quotient hasn't caught up with his mechanical quite yet. Unless it is raining hard, that is ..... ;) If it is a pounding rain, all bets are off. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by old_rider on 08/22/13 at 14:26:26 Oh, i'd say his crazy is just about caught up with his mechanical, I seem to remember a few crazy guys doing 70+ in the rain on mountain roads. Although you might not think that's crazy, but then again, your view might be a bit askew ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 08/22/13 at 15:53:00 Yup, a little afternoon of hard driving chilly rain seems to wash a whole lot of carefully cultivated reserve away, don't it? And what's underneath it, all naturally occurring? Green, pure warty green stuff .... ;D |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 08/25/13 at 18:02:24 Anybody who is coming have access to take off wide FL or beach bars? Want to swap for some 15" rise apes with clutch cable? My shoulder decided yesterday that it can't handle the 15s anymore, and I kind of miss 70+ mpg anyway... I'm even going to ramp back the jetting, 155/55 is excessive... I might have to set up my bender and make a proper set of bars... Wiring got hacked away this afternoon. So now I have no choice but to quit goofing around and rewire it the right way, no safeties, no kill switch, no switch boxes... 8-) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by LANCER on 08/25/13 at 18:49:35 Gonna get down right naked with it, eh ? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 08/25/13 at 21:28:57 Naked? Nah, just tired of it looking like it was built in 68, so going for 48 instead. Wide lower bars, small shield (maybe), driving lamps, more traditional tread front tire, front drum wheel, more period correct perches and levers. I even tore the speedometer apart, cleaned the glass, cable is soaking in a bucket of hydraulic fluid (great corrosion remover/inhibitor and lube), lubed the driven bits, primed the inner spacer ring, have a spot/dot equipped 2 up seat... I might even whitewall out the tires. I think I'm getting old... :-/ |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by LANCER on 08/26/13 at 03:48:19 3625610 wrote:
Old ? Nah. We are just aging well and getting better every year like a fine wine. ;) I'm moving toward a flat tracker style with my Savage. I've got an old fiberglass tank off a BSA flat track bike that I need to work on mounting to the frame this winter. Will need to coat the inside with the epoxy needed for the fuels now. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 08/26/13 at 06:08:36 I'd love to cut the frame on mine and stretch it enough to use my 4.75 gallon Paughco Mustang FXR tank. Instead of the current track type tank. So a 4-6 inch stretch of the backbone and bracer, then add a 4 inch rearward stretch weld on rigid conversion, with good solo seat conversion. My back screams to not to do it. My eyes say it is mandatory. Maybe the next time I have another large bike I'll go ahead and go truly wild making the Savage a proper late 30s to early 50s bike. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 09/05/13 at 13:00:10 10 |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 09/05/13 at 13:02:09 9 |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 09/06/13 at 06:08:32 8 |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 09/06/13 at 19:39:50 7 |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 09/08/13 at 15:14:49 6 |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 09/09/13 at 03:21:40 5 Record heat yesterday. Will be mid to upper 90s until at least Thursday with heat indexes over 100 each day. Supposed to cool down to the mid 80s this weekend. Have not heard the forecast beyond then. First full day at the new job is today. Won't be back online until this evening. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Dave on 09/09/13 at 10:41:31 OK....Time for me to weigh in and try to make a commitment. I have a meeting that I need to attend on Tuesday, and it is hard for me to get away early in the week....tentatively I would be leaving Wednesday and arrive later on Wednesday evening. I don't want to miss a reunion with MM and Lancer........and a chance to meet Versy and our host WD. Any definite plans on what is going to happen on any given day? WD.....How is that "work" thing going? Dave |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 09/10/13 at 04:32:57 4 |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 09/10/13 at 16:21:21 Feet and lower back are killing me. I'm trying it with dress boots tomorrow. Off Thursday, on Friday, off Saturday. Schedule? At my place? Surely you jest, I've got a truck in pieces that I haven't managed to fire up since 1994... And my Savage is scattered throughout the yard, house, forge, Lisa's car, and at least one old tag along camper turned storage unit. We don't believe in schedules around here. ;) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by old_rider on 09/11/13 at 00:01:16 2am here and still can't lay down... needless to say i'm having to bow out on this one and plan for a spring or summer meet when i'm healthy again. Really wanted to get aquainted with a few more of yu's guy's. Take some pics so I kin at least see a few of the shootin', bullin' sessions your participatin' in. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by LANCER on 09/11/13 at 05:11:45 3231392F3439382F5D0 wrote:
Dude, you need to get well. Praying for your back to be healed. It's just no fun at all to be in pain like that. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 09/11/13 at 11:06:45 3 |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 09/12/13 at 05:11:48 2 |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by MMRanch on 09/12/13 at 12:22:42 OK....Time for me to weigh in and try to make a commitment. I have a meeting that I need to attend on Tuesday, and it is hard for me to get away early in the week....tentatively I would be leaving Wednesday and arrive later on Wednesday evening. I don't want to miss a reunion with MM and Lancer........and a chance to meet Versy and our host WD. Any definite plans on what is going to happen on any given day? WD.....How is that "work" thing going? Dave I need to go to Dixie GunWorks if we do anything else or not. So ;) I'm thinking :-? If I leave out Wensday morning and take a leasurely ride west I'll still be there by mid afternoon with plent of time for meet and greet , pitch a tent , and dinner prep ! :) Thursday doin't have to get up early and still have time to do the GunWorks. Thursday night ? ? Cook-Out ? ? :-? Or What ever you fellers want to do ! ;) :) 1 question .... WD .... I know its not good to take off for personal reasons from a new job. So ... are Dave ,Versey, Lancer and me going riding while your at work ,... then keep you up hanging around the campfire all night so you'll be really good at work the next day ??? ;D Hosting this event and Keeping a new job balancing act. Just wondering ??? ::) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 09/12/13 at 16:10:28 My bike is junk, so my friend Doug will be leading the rides. My schedule for the week is: Sat OFF, Sun/Mon 1500-2200, Tues OFF, Wed 0600-1230, Thur OFF but that is cruise in night we will probably be attending and there are 3 killer Chinese buffets in a 3 block area, Fri 1500-2200, Sat 0700-1300. Where you guys go and when is between you guys and Doug. For those who haven't met him, Doug is a former co-worker from WA who moved down here a couple years ago. He lives on Lisa's late brother's place. He rides every day, with or without company. Knows the local riding better than I do right now, he is retired and has a lot more free time. Word of warning, he has ZERO use or tolerance for minorities or religion, bring up neither around him. When we set all this up, I honestly did not expect to have an off farm job. If anyone feels the need to bow out, no hard feelings. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by verslagen1 on 09/12/13 at 17:17:22 Fine, just as long as he don't talk about oil either. 8-) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Serowbot on 09/12/13 at 23:09:35 42514647585553515A05340 wrote:
OF's got oil covered... ...You guyz pow-wow on the subtleties of transmission fluid... :-?... |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Dave on 09/13/13 at 06:42:36 Well.....I will make a Wednesday evening arrival as best as I can tell at this point. If the weather forecast is for rain,rain, rain.....then I may have to adjust my schedule to reflect my fair weather riding preference. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 09/13/13 at 08:26:04 485E49544C59544F3B0 wrote:
OF's got oil covered... ...You guyz pow-wow on the subtleties of transmission fluid... :-?... [/quote] Yeah, but the other guy thinks a straight 50w Pennzoil is the right oil to use in a Savage ..... how could you not try to set that straight? Remember, Verslagen was the one who DID all that oil temperature testing a year or so ago .... :) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by MMRanch on 09/13/13 at 13:58:45 So .... If I mix transmission fluid with my gas will I get better MPG. ? Or just stick with Marvels Mistery Oil. ... ;) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by verslagen1 on 09/13/13 at 20:34:32 so what's the weather outlook? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by LANCER on 09/14/13 at 03:26:22 6D7E6968777A7C7E752A1B0 wrote:
For Memphis Sat ... sun & 78 Sun ... sun & 85 Mon ... sun & 89 Tue ... cloudy & 87 20% precip Wed ... cloudy & 90 30% precip Thur ... cloudy & 89 40% precip Fri ... cloudy & 86 40 % precip Sat ... sun 84 20% precip Morris Sun ... sun & 88 |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 09/14/13 at 17:56:47 1 |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 09/14/13 at 17:57:27 0 --- Launch !!! |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Serowbot on 09/14/13 at 18:00:46 Hey hey,... Versy just passed through Tucson... so we got to have a little meet up... He's on his way... You guyz have fun,... and ride safe... ;)... |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 09/14/13 at 18:55:33 Yah sure you betcha... ;) We'll try and keep the felonies to a bare minimum... and try very hard to NOT secede while at one of the battlefields. ;) If I'd been caught doing a fraction of what I've gotten away with, I'd be under the prison... in a padded cell. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 09/15/13 at 15:43:49 Well, at least two of them are there by now, but staying in a rough camp which means no electricity and no Wifi/ethernet either. So, I suspect we will get us a light posting from a cafe or such from Verslagen's cell phone sometimes or another. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 09/15/13 at 22:49:36 Haven't seen anybody show up yet, but, I was at work from 3 pm to 1045 pm or so. And then the power went out. My place is next to impossible to find in full daylight, at night with a partial moon and scattered clouds, forget it. I know where it is and still fly by the driveway regularly. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by verslagen1 on 09/16/13 at 04:07:04 Got to lancers late last night. We'll be there this afternoon. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 09/16/13 at 20:57:19 L and V got in while I was at work. I'll check in with them in the morning, I just staggered in from work. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by LANCER on 09/17/13 at 05:24:52 Got here at WDs yesterday afternoon, set up, slept, built fire this morning, coffee is on. :)) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 09/17/13 at 05:31:33 You didn't wait for the .45 black powder alarm clock? Be down in a while, trying to dynamite my eyes open. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by MMRanch on 09/17/13 at 15:19:43 :) Well If it ain't raining tomorrow , the bike is packed and ready to go. I'll be ready to go by 10:00 hrs. So if I get there and ya'll are gone ... I'll put up camp and explore . How will I know I'm at the right place ? (doin't want a tent in some strangers back yard !!! ;D ) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 09/17/13 at 18:31:37 House looks like this from the road... http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y490/mphsgal/LISA-HP/Photos/Tennessee/BIGSNOW1_zps1047bf6e.jpg My house is the little one... http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y490/mphsgal/LISA-HP/Photos/Tennessee/SmallHouseFront_zps538c4ca4.jpg Big magnolia and poplar in the front yard, oak tree down along the road. Lancer and Verslagen are set up down at Doug's, better access to power and water than out at the pond. I should be back home by 1400 hours or so. You have my cell number if there are issues, and scratch the directions I gave you, take the 385/Millington exit off I-40, take it to Brunswick Rd and turn right. Stay on Brunswick to McQuiston, Brunswick road ends there, turn right, left on Deadfall, 1st driveway on the left. Watch the hill where McQuiston meets Deadfall, 3 way stop, but it is harvest season, lots of tractors and big rigs. They often miss the sign (I'd guess intentionally). There are clouds over the MS River right now. Have not checked the forecast. Brunswick Road is freshly paved for a good stretch, beware the school zone in the whistle stop town of Bolton. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Dave on 09/18/13 at 10:39:15 As much as I had planned to show up tonight......I am not going to be able to make this trip. The power company is dropping trees on the power line easement on my property, a staff meeting has been scheduled at my office for Friday morning, and I ended up with just too much office work to get done this week. See you all at the 2014 Dragon run. Dave |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 09/19/13 at 07:21:44 MMRanch made it in safe and sound yesterday afternoon. The guys are off to breakfast, I'll head that way in a little while. Taking my truck, there have been a few ridability issues, humidity is way up, cold front never materialized. Lancer actually had to put a different carb on his bike yesterday, the humidity was wreaking havoc with his Edelbrock. Which is too bad, the Edlebrock looks good, flows better and is infinitely adjustable 98% of the time. I'd love to install one on Pokey. For those who haven't met them, Lancer Verslagen and MMRanch are a great bunch of people. The next time we have a south east get together that does not involve the Dragon, we'll do a much better job with it, timing AND activities. This year's event kind of fell apart, I did not expect to get a town job less than a month before it. My bike is still in pieces, the docks did not get finished, the shooting backstop is overgrown (so we moved where we wer shooting yesterday)... West TN is time of year is like the Amazon jungle... noisy, steamy, stinky, buggy... and there was a late pollen bloom. Makes for a rather dull get together, everyone is too miserable to do much. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 09/19/13 at 12:03:22 What season is good? Propose a time that is ideal weather, temp, humidity, etc. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 09/19/13 at 20:47:51 Hmm, we have hurricane season, tornado season, flea and tick season, and put on your helmet and your head explodes season... They're all about the same. Oh, the above is, in order, fall, fall/spring, year round, and summer... Too hot to ride air cooled here in the summer most years. Lancer's blue bike sounds like an old CR500 2 stroke right now between the humidity and the poor quality of local fuel. This is NOT an ethanol blend friendly part of the country, too damp. Really late fall tends to be best, but only on piddly harvest years. If we have a decent crop, like this year's is turning into, we're too busy to sleep, let alone have any fun. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by PerrydaSavage on 09/20/13 at 00:04:38 Pics folks! Please! wish I could join you all ... met WD (in a virtual sense) many years ago here at SuzukiSavage.com and is one of the Original Members (along with Sluggo, Reelthing and a couple others)whom I consider friend ... still wear the t-shirt ya sent me when you were living in WA WD! Have fun folks! 8-) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 09/20/13 at 05:51:14 Pics? Good grief why? A bunch of baby bikes in the jungle isn't photo worthy... ;) I know Lance took at least one yesterday, but he's not in it. Group photo at a rest area on the way back from Dixie Gun Works. I drove the chase truck up, and beat the bikes there... because "somebody" was using GPS and it sent the bikes the long way around. I called them while they were still on the old road to find out where they were, 12 miles out according to the GPS, but it took almost an hour for them to get to the shop/museum. I think everybody wanted more cash on hand, seeing as Dixie sells functional cannons along with muzzle loaders and antique cartridge guns... They had 2 Gatling guns in stock that would look great on the manor house front porch. :o |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 09/20/13 at 11:37:04 Started raining this morning, supposed to stop in 3 days or so. Pretty sure the guys headed home, the area they set up in is abandoned now. Next time WILL be better. Plan is to run power and potable water to permanent camping sites around the pond. Just need the income to support the upgrades. Safe trip, hope to see everybody on the 2014 Dragon run if I have vacation time banked up by then. If not we'll put together something for next year, IF the site is improved by then. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by verslagen1 on 09/20/13 at 12:08:29 It was a nice time. Thanks for the hospitality. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by MMRanch on 09/20/13 at 13:47:22 I got back about 14:30hrs. and had a rain free ride once I got 10 miles north/east. It was only beginning to rain when I left (just enough to make the road slippery). So I made my way to the interstate and turned the s-40 loose ! :) By time I got to Jackson the sun was shinning. 8-) . So I hopped on 412 and maked my way south-east and home. Hwy 412 was a nice supprise, most of its' 4 lane and some of it has a 65mph limit. I took a couple pictures but haven't downloaded them yet , might get to it tonight. :) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by verslagen1 on 09/20/13 at 16:35:45 Heck, it didn't stop raining till we were past little rock but was still drizzling to fort smith. Glad you made it dry. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by MMRanch on 09/20/13 at 17:41:41 We allways need more folks to show up ! :) I know its a little early for "Fall Festibles" and such but !!! :o We found a Corn Maise so big ... (How big was it ?) .... Well it was so big ... ;D "There was a road built through it !" "Black top even" ... "and two lanes" The speed limit was 45 and it was full of 90 degree turns , it went on for at least 30 minutes but it seemed like for-ever (of course runninng on the reserve fuel tank :-[ made it seem even longer). We were in it so long "De-Ja-Vo" set in on us ! ;D When we finally found a gas station Doug says "Hay-We've been here befor " :o I'm not sure it was eariler that day ??? Would'nt have missed it for nothing and wish more of ya'll could have been there. I had the GPS set to stay off the main roads and it worked perfect ! ;) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by LANCER on 09/22/13 at 05:24:45 Versy hard at work contemplating .... ahhhh, something. http://images1.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp%3B55%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E639%3E697%3EWSNRCG%3D3668575297339nu0mrj MMranch doing ... well, no idea what-so-ever [http://images1.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp%3B86%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E639%3E697%3EWSNRCG%3D3668584372339nu0mrj Operational Head-quaters, next 3 photos http://images1.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp%3B99%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E639%3E697%3EWSNRCG%3D366858%3B38%3B339nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp%3B94%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E639%3E697%3EWSNRCG%3D3668584597339nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp%3B99%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E639%3E697%3EWSNRCG%3D366858%3B38%3B339nu0mrj Return ride from our excurtion to the Dixie Gun Works toy store Brief pittstop on the return, bikes and the Gang: Versy, Donny, MMranch, WD and Doug. http://images1.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp%3B83%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E639%3E697%3EWSNRCG%3D366858%3B5%3A3339nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp%3B%3A8%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E639%3E697%3EWSNRCG%3D3668574%3B%3A8339nu0mrj Yours truly; Lancer; pausing & trying to remember what I was supposed to be doing; well, perhaps it will come back to me later. http://images1.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp%3B63%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E639%3E697%3EWSNRCG%3D366858%3A7%3A7339nu0mrj there are certain priorities ... coffee on the fire in the wee hours before dawn taking first watch in the early morning hours; building the fire and putting on the coffee http://images1.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp%3B%3B%3B%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E639%3E697%3EWSNRCG%3D366857%3C9%3A4339nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp%3B%3B5%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E639%3E697%3EWSNRCG%3D366857%3C9%3A3339nu0mrj http://images1.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp%3B89%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E639%3E697%3EWSNRCG%3D366858436%3B339nu0mrj |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 09/22/13 at 07:04:43 Pretty bikes all in a row .... right next to the fire pit, the tombstone and the shovel. http://images1.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp%3B99%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E639%3E697%3EWSNRCG%3D366858%3B38%3B339nu0mrj Who/what did you dig up/bury? Or did you jest eat him ??? :-? |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by old_rider on 09/22/13 at 08:31:40 76555D5F5C55555C4B390 wrote:
LOL, I was hoping it was just some old table they used for firewood....now i'm not so sure.... :-/ |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by WD on 09/22/13 at 08:35:13 Tombstone? Oh, the old coffee table in the firewood pile... ;D Nobody fell in any of the graves on that area of the farm. There are a bunch of small sinkholes that look just like collapsing grave sites. Very well could be, as they flank the original war era road... Lots of abandoned cemeteries in my area. Even formal ones in town that are so overgrown you can't see the markers anymore. Not to mention all of the odd little family and slave burial grounds you stumble into where the bigger plantations were... Kind of creepy, go off hunting and stumble over an old grave or 50. No rocks at the surface around here naturally, any you trip over tend to be grave markers. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by Oldfeller on 09/22/13 at 08:44:08 Open graves, ghouls and zombies .... a Halloween motif camping trip !!! ;D |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by verslagen1 on 09/22/13 at 15:19:53 I will say... Doug is the master BBQr [smiley=thumbsup.gif] and have Tennessee Mike there you know there would a purpose for the the day. But if versy and lancer are left to their vices, there will be tinkering and shooting. Riding is only required to forage for food. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by MMRanch on 09/22/13 at 21:34:32 Riding is only required to forage for food. Foragging is good. That place where we ate Thursday morning was a nice supprise. Fair price and my eggs were just as good as I'd cook them myself ! :) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by LANCER on 09/23/13 at 13:11:58 Ya'll missed a lot of fun shooting the black powder pistols and rifles. Gives you that Dan'l Boone feelin in yer bones. ;D WD & Doug greeting upon arrival Dougs BBQ chicken & pork (I'm thinkin he could open up Dougs BBQ Shak, make a Mil. and retire again ;) ) a beer or 2 or ... shootin guns ride here and there a bit yes, tinkering good weather cept for the day we left; got pretty darn wet packin stuff in a hurry good company driving back and forth from OK to TN good wife waiting with some GOOOOOD homemade beef stew yep, a pretty good time ;D |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by MMRanch on 09/23/13 at 15:16:42 Life can be Sooooo Goooood :) |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by PerrydaSavage on 09/24/13 at 08:38:59 Very Cool being able to see the shenanigans ... looks like fun was had by all! Envious! |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by kimchris1 on 09/24/13 at 20:25:37 Sounds like all you guys had a great time. Nice pics and enjoyed reading about your time together as well. Is always nice that friendships can be made and kept many miles away. :) kim |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by LANCER on 09/26/13 at 04:27:47 Thank you for your hospitality Jeff. I thoroughly enjoyed the week at your place. I just wish you had been able to play more, but work is work. Please pass along my greeting to Doug, and tell him I really appreciated his help and generosity during our stay. I especially enjoyed the ride/walk he and I took through the pecan orchard and around the pond. |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by MMRanch on 09/27/13 at 19:44:13 LikeWise WD I hope to return the hospitality to you and Doug ... and Danny too ! ............................ Lancer I was at Duhams today and saw the price of 45-70 shells :-X : but I will say "Sticker Shock"! :o But what a wallop when that thing goes off ! |
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Title: Re: 2013 Going to see WD in September... 14th to 2 Post by LANCER on 09/28/13 at 04:30:16 100210020F1C131E155D0 wrote:
It does make a bit of a bang when it goes off, and you better have a good hold on it. It does a good job as a perimeter defense/front door weapon. I wanted to be sure I could stop anything from getting inside that was intent on evil doing. Its small carbine size makes it easy to handle as well, even in woods and brush. "Sticker Shock" ... yep, they make you pay for the bang. I'm looking forward to being able to load my own. |
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